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Droid Eris gets 2.6.29 kernel source

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674915
Have they even gotten there official 2.1 eclair ota???
c'mon HTC, show us some love plox

Can't we technically use that one for our development?
darchstar said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674915
Have they even gotten there official 2.1 eclair ota???
c'mon HTC, show us some love plox
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tkirton said:
Can't we technically use that one for our development?
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Thats exactly like using a gsm hero's source code for our development. I don't really think so. but i could check it out and port some heroc stuff to see if it'll work

We've ported Eris dumps and Legend dumps (their source is also out). I understand it won't go straight out of the box, but since the Eris is almost identical to the Hero we have, I would think modifying it for us wouldn't be an issue. Wasn't the only difference hardware-wise was the light sensor on the Hero versus the proximity sensor on the Eris?
My luck...it'll be that camera again.
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Thats exactly like using a gsm hero's source code for our development. I don't really think so. but i could check it out and port some heroc stuff to see if it'll work
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tkirton said:
We've ported Eris dumps and Legend dumps (their source is also out). I understand it won't go straight out of the box, but since the Eris is almost identical to the Hero we have, I would think modifying it for us wouldn't be an issue. Wasn't the only difference hardware-wise was the light sensor on the Hero versus the proximity sensor on the Eris?
My luck...it'll be that camera again.
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do a string search for heroC in make menuconfig for both droid eris source and hero cdma source and tell me if you see the board configs for our phone in both of them. Its not as easy as porting roms from the same architecture as ours. If you noticed, in all the ports we replaced the kernel in the boot.img with our own leaked .29 kernel

This can only mean one thing. The update is near.

That's cool. Just an idea since it could be a while until we see our source code release. Wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers here.
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do a string search for heroC in make menuconfig for both droid eris source and hero cdma source and tell me if you see the board configs for our phone in both of them. Its not as easy as porting roms from the same architecture as ours. If you noticed, in all the ports we replaced the kernel in the boot.img with our own leaked .29 kernel
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tkirton said:
That's cool. Just an idea since it could be a while until we see our source code release. Wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers here.
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Ya never know though. Look, the Incredible code was released quick.

I may be wrong and we get it within a week or two after release (hopefully, I am wrong). I'm going by the last time source code was release, which was four months later.
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Ya never know though. Look, the Incredible code was released quick.
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tkirton said:
I may be wrong and we get it within a week or two after release (hopefully, I am wrong). I'm going by the last time source code was release, which was four months later.
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This leads to the question of why it was released with the 2.1 update...is this a new HTC or does Verizon have a hand in this?
Either way, this is nothing but good news for us and future Android phones.

Hopefully, it's HTC learning from the delay lessons of 1.5. If not, I guarantee that Sprint won't go to bat for us getting the source code...that may eat into their potential revenue for the Evo.
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This leads to the question of why it was released with the 2.1 update...is this a new HTC or does Verizon have a hand in this?
Either way, this is nothing but good news for us and future Android phones.
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Hopefully, it's HTC learning from the delay lessons of 1.5. If not, I guarantee that Sprint won't go to bat for us getting the source code...that may eat into their potential revenue for the Evo.
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sprints never going to go to bat unless it affects their bottom line if it doesnt get relaesesd we will have to do the same thing we did when getting the source for 1.5 and start an email and call campaigne hopefully that wont come to that though as I think the 1.5 delay was becuase of the way that the kernel was hacked together to get CDMA support and with android now nativly supporting CDMA it hopefully wont be an issue.

Ahh really? Our soucre code for the. 29 kernel is the last thing we need. An overclocked kernel with working camera! oh well, I hope we can get it shortly after the 2.1 update goes live
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Google's new version of Froyo for the Nexus One

I am not sure if this is of value or if any of you are not already aware, but decided to post this in case it is of any worth to any of you who are working on developing Froyo Rom to work on a Sprint HTC Hero.
ZDnet story with included download link of Google's new version of Froyo for the Nexus One : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/google-releases-new-version-of-froyo/2213?tag=mantle_skin;content

distantneighbor said:
I am not sure if this is of value or if any of you are not already aware, but decided to post this in case it is of any worth to any of you who are working on developing Froyo Rom to work on a Sprint HTC Hero.
ZDnet story with included download link of Google's new version of Froyo for the Nexus One : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/google-releases-new-version-of-froyo/2213?tag=mantle_skin;content
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We still need source code to get Mic and other things working.

Under their own laws (found in Settings>About Phone>Legal Information), when Google officially releases Froyo for ANY device (Nexus, Droid, G1) they must release the source code. So, once they release a device version of Froyo, they must release Froyo on source.android.com.

HeroMeng said:
Under their own laws (found in Settings>About Phone>Legal Information), when Google officially releases Froyo for ANY device (Nexus, Droid, G1) they must release the source code. So, once they release a device version of Froyo, they must release Froyo on source.android.com.
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Google is becoming very HTC-y about source. Give it a week or 2. FroYo has been out for N1 for a couple of weeks now. This is an updated FroYo.
Still waiting on the source tree to drop sadly.

Kcarpenter said:
Google is becoming very HTC-y about source. Give it a week or 2. FroYo has been out for N1 for a couple of weeks now. This is an updated FroYo.
Still waiting on the source tree to drop sadly.
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Froyo isn't out yet. Google has not released it yet. There were some review units that Google sent Froyo to for review purposes only, but it has not been released to the public. The only reason the public has it is because of these leaks.
I expect Google to have it up as soon as it publicly drops. Now HTC on the other hand...

HeroMeng said:
Under their own laws (found in Settings>About Phone>Legal Information), when Google officially releases Froyo for ANY device (Nexus, Droid, G1) they must release the source code. So, once they release a device version of Froyo, they must release Froyo on source.android.com.
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This is incorrect. The Linux Kernel source is licensed under the GPL which means when you release something that uses it you must release any modifications you made to it. Android however is not licensed under such a license. It is under the Apache license which means any changes that Google, HTC, Cyanogen or any other entity makes to it do not have to be released. Now, Google changing the kernel source, yes that does mean they need to release that. But just that. They will release it all in time though. Should be this week or next week I would assume.

Lol, um froyo was released already
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aarronbittick said:
Lol, um froyo was released already
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Uhh... Not the source code. If the source was released it would show up here.

aarronbittick said:
Lol, um froyo was released already
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No, it has NOT been released: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/google-on-android-2-2-feverishly-working-to-get-a-final-versio/

Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .

Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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Not all devs have left. Damage, fresh, and toast were not the only ones who can do dev work and if u believe they were then go get an evo and dump ur perfectly working hero on someone not as ignorant as u r

Powers16 said:
Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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I have no doubt the Evo will get it first. But we still have devs on the board.
Darch has already commited to building an AOSP FrpYp, and there is enough documentation laying around here for anyone with some Linux-Fu to be able to take out our Hero Kernel and drop it into any system dump or boot image and at least make it bootable. Not necessarily 100% functional, but bootable.
I have no doubt that within a few days of Google dropping FroYo source that we have a functional version.
Also, I at this point in time don't care about HTC Sense UI. AOSP is awesome with ADW lancuher. That thing only keeps getting better. He has a build with gesture controls built in coming soon.
The ONLY thing I don't like about AOSP is Exchange emails with more than 1 attachment won't show me the email text...but I think this is just a user error.
For now I have been forwarding the email to my Gmail address to read it.

Papa Smurf151 said:
Not all devs have left. Damage, fresh, and toast were not the only ones who can do dev work and if u believe they were then go get an evo and dump ur perfectly working hero on someone not as ignorant as u r
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There is nothing ignorant about my comment. It's the way I feel about the situation and not You or anyone else will change that... before you go throwing stones make sure you understand that people will have different views than you.
/ignorance

Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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Seriously, dude, when I read this all I heard was, "Jimmy got a cool new phone and I don't have a cool new phone, but Jimmy used to make my phone cool and now Jimmy won't make my phone cool for me anymore. Someone call the WHAMBULANCE!" I hate to single you out because these threads are rife with whining anymore, but this is a prime example.
There is nothing ignorant about my comment.
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Yes there is. Start developing. Don't whine that someone else isn't doing the work anymore. Step up to the plate and do the work. I'm sick of people whining about developers moving to different phones and leaving users behind. They're not "leaving users behind", they're moving forward and they owe you nothing. This isn't the Marines. This is technology and business.
Complaining about them upgrading and not working on the ROM for your phone is like complaining that they didn't write ROMs for the G1 or Nexus 1. Should they be forced to buy those phones to develop on? Absolutely not.
Besides those points, your post still contains some ignorance. Damage stated he's not giving up development for the Hero, he's busy getting married this week. TrevE said he's backing away from the Evo for a bit to focus on the Hero. Darch is definitely still around, despite people trying to get him to move to the Evo. Where's the problem?

There's no point in arguing with both of you.for some reason when someone says the word dev you guys start creaming your pants and when the least bit of negative is said you guys go to McDonald's and order a whamburger and French cries. This is the internet morons and both of you need to get off the dev's nut sack and understand that I have an opinion and I'm gonna use it. Now both of you can go hold each other now.
/troll

There's no point in arguing with both of you.for some reason when someone says the word dev you guys start creaming your pants and when the least bit of negative is said you guys go to McDonald's and order a whamburger and French cries. This is the internet morons and both of you need to get off the dev's nut sack and understand that I have an opinion and I'm gonna use it. Now both of you can go hold each other now.
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This Guy equals moron and leecher. Will never dev anything on his own and will just cry cause a few devs left the hero site. Boo hoo cry me a river. U r welcome to ur opinion and can voice it all u like. I'm just informing u that ur opinion is wrong and ignorant.
That's is all and u may go now

Powers16 said:
Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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Fresh and Darch are still dev'ing for the Hero as far as I know (I'm running Fresh Hero 2.3 beta which is only a couple of days old). I'm not sure about the rest but as long as those two are going strong there are good things to come.

FroYo just dropped into AOSP!

Kcarpenter said:
FroYo just dropped into AOSP!
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Really??? LINK!!! We need to get this to Darch ASAP!!!

mrinehart93 said:
Really??? LINK!!! We need to get this to Darch ASAP!!!
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Already tweeted at him.
http://android.git.kernel.org/?o=age

Info Only, new 2.2 to officially release 2/22 for VZW Fascinate

http://www.slashphone.com/epic-4g-w...ed&utm_campaign=Feed:+slashphone+(SlashPhone)
Wonder if we'll see this from our dev's (again) before the official release?

Here's another site I noticed: http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-san-francisco/samsung-fascinate-froyo-update-arriving-february-22nd

I'll believe it when I see it on the phones.

Doubt it. I'll believe it when I see it happening or when it's confirmed.

I'll believe it when a reliable source posts the info. Until then, I'll keep rocking the leaked ROMs waiting for Samsung to drop the source for us.

XDA will have a leak before any ROM goes live.
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The dev may hole back on releasing to pretect the source.

onemotodroid said:
XDA will have a leak before any ROM goes live.
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At this point, I'm more anxious for Samsung to release the source code than the actual OTA update. DL30 is running well enough.

imnuts said:
I'll believe it when a reliable source posts the info. Until then, I'll keep rocking the leaked ROMs waiting for Samsung to drop the source for us.
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I'll believe it when I'm downloading it from their servers.

J Shed said:
I'll believe it when I'm downloading it from their servers.
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I BELIEVE!!!

Har har, get it... 2.2.2? LAWL SAMSUNG
This is the same company that said we'd get Froyo on the 21st of Jan. I'll believe this when I see the pop-up in my account that an update is available.

Hahahaha muaw hahaha.
From my super clean dl30 fascinate

That special magical day is just around the corner! That source was right about the Epic 4G so buckle up! I'll try to grab that update.zip for the devs if it differs from the EB01. tits.

I wouldn't get too excited just yet...There's been no solid or reliable word on the Fascinate update yet. Based on past experience, news of the OTA update will probably "leak" at least a few days ahead if not a week or two. I'm not saying it won't happen tomorrow, but if it doesn't happen tomorrow, you might want to try rooting your phone and installing the EB01 Froyo Rom. It's actually pretty stable and brings a lot of new features. It might possibly be the build that actually gets officially released.

Skrazz said:
tits.
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I love you my friend.

Either way, the update for the Epic was offered in Sammy's downloads section as well as ota so I shall be F5ing like a boss tomorrow
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Verizon usually posts an announcement on their web site prior to the OTA, listing changes and instructions on how to update.
So far, there are no new updates on their site...
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I'm going to plead ignorant on this one and ask why everyone is so desperate for the official 2.2 OTA release if most people here seem to be rooted to 2.2 already? What's going to be the difference and/or the big deal? (I'm unrooted myself so am very much looking forward to the OTA update).

One word. Source.
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Skrazz said:
One word. Source.
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This...... ..

Skrazz said:
One word. Source.
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Word. This will allow us to get a fully functional Froyo AOSP ROM going... Or, MIUI, or, etc...

Official Source Released

It's up:
http://opensource.samsung.com/
Thanks to Crankycoder from this thread for pointing it out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957422

Direct link to the download: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?method=downLoad&attach_id=1014

About damn time. Devs can have hun with this over the weekend. We should see another step in advancement of these roms

remember the devs are only human well most of them so don't expect too much this weekend give them some days.

WARNING!!! THAT FILE HAS A VIRUS! SAMSUNG IS OUT TO GET YOU!!
(being sarcastic)
Where are the people who where saying that samsung would not release the source code?

emonero said:
WARNING!!! THAT FILE HAS A VIRUS! SAMSUNG IS OUT TO GET YOU!!
(being sarcastic)
Where are the people who where saying that samsung would not release the source code?
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It took them long enough though huh....

sweet!!!! now we finally can have awesome overclock/undervolt kernels made from our source, the really sppedy roms can come out, and TeamWhiskey can finally make a full AOSP build. I can't wait to see what these chefs cook up

Samsung logged on
and uploaded source
then i jizzed in my pants

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Samsung logged on
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Why now? Why before they have to? I wonder if this was the big news samsungJohn was talking about?

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Why now? Why before they have to? I wonder if this was the big news samsungJohn was talking about?
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they always release the source after 30 days or less....

I'm excited to see what our wonderful devs will cook up for us here in the coming weeks/months. Voodoo sound kernel with voodoo color and ext4 partition conversion would be nice.

emonero said:
they always release the source after 30 days or less....
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They have 60 days, and people were assuming that sammy would wait the entire time allowed under the Android license.
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reuthermonkey said:
They have 60 days, and people were assuming that sammy would wait the entire time allowed under the Android license.
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But if you look at their tack record, they don't do that, they don't wait 60 days as other companies do.

Gingerbread kernel source on opensource.samsung.com

Gingerbread sources out
http://opensource.samsung.com/

Yes, yes, YES!!!
**Simply Honey 3.0, Voodoo GB hack, JVE modem**

Is it really out? Is this one it GT-I9000_OpenSource_GB.zip ??

Don't mind me saying, but that's fast! Very good news indeed.
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So early... wow samsung
Samsung galaxy s

And now comes supercurio and hardcore ;D awesome news!
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Awesome!
I'm actually curious, what other manufacturers release source code and how promptly do they do it?

It comes really fast, I'm impressed and big thanks to Samsung, custom kernels in the way !

Nice, cant wait to see the kernels start rolling in

Dear Samsung, Thanks.

haloimplant said:
Awesome!
I'm actually curious, what other manufacturers release source code and how promptly do they do it?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all manufacturers are bound by the GPL license of the Linux-derived kernel to publish the source code every time they release a new kernel to the public (i.e., their users). In practice, this means they will publish a new kernel source code with each new phone and each new version of Android (2.1, 2.2, 2.3, etc.). Also, if there are any critical updates that they have to apply to the kernel, they will publish that too, but such situations aren't that common. Most of the big manufacturers will publish their source code within a week of releasing their latest Android upgrade or phone.
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Wow, Go Samsung, freaking awesome, can't wait, this is going to be an amazing week!

err am i blind? i cant see anything there. ???
edit: oops, forgot to log in. my bad sorry..

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err am i blind? i cant see anything there. ???
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Yeah, you are blind. Like in that song: "stop and stare".

Chedburn said:
Yeah, you are blind. Like in that song: "stop and stare".
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"I think I'm moving but I go no whereee"

cashyftw said:
"I think I'm moving but I go no whereee"
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yeah,i know that everyone gets scared

Samsung know the problems will be fixed quickly once sources released....
Galaxy s has an awesome dev team.
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thanks samsung...
come on XDA kernel developers..

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Samsung know the problems will be fixed quickly once sources released....
Galaxy s has an awesome dev team.
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and we are indebted to you -thank you Tricky. Cant what to see what you can make of SGS GB, if its anything like what Froyo has evolved to, then good things will come

Madrenergic said:
In practice, this means they will publish a new kernel source code with each new phone and each new version of Android (2.1, 2.2, 2.3, etc.).
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Correct me if I'm wrong as well, but, at 125MB, this seems like more than kernel source code. The kernel patches are GPL'd, but the rest of Android is released by Google under the Apache License, meaning (as we've seen) manufacturers don't have to release any source code of customizations like blur, or sense. (see wikipedia for android, under licensing -- I had a link here, but I'm not allowed to post it until I reach 8 posts)
And if this is a 125mb kernel source download, just ignore this post...
Edit: After taking a look inside, there's both kernel source and some platform source code (I'm seeing things like webkit, bluetooth, email...), so at least some of this looks to be optionally-released stuff.