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hey guys im thinking of getting the play from a place called rogers its a Canadian company they suck and overcharge so im gonna get it off contract anyway i hear they keep the phone locked to the rogers network by unlocking the bootloader and getting it rooted will that allow any sim to work on it?
thanks in advice
In short no.
But I have better new for you.
You can get any sim to work on the phone and keep your warranty.
You have to buy a code there are many places you can get them from here is an example.
The plus for this is that the phone is unlocked no matter what you do to it and you keep your warranty.
Also the Rogers xperia play does not have the ability to unlock the bootloader yet. Even with an unlocked bootloader you probably wouldn't be able to sim unlock it.
hey thanks for the quick reply i just have one question for ya do u know about this site w*ww.cellunlocker.ne*t they do it cheaper but they look somewhat fake and for the play they make you download an app to unlock it that sound fake to you? sorry im new with the android / sim unlocking world old phone was cdma
Well, I went to check out the T-Mobile branded Xperia Z C6606 at the Sony Style store and was disappointed to see that the bootloader is locked.
I was trying to get information online if it was locked or not but couldn'tget any confirmation. I know that it'sprobably locked by T-mobile, but I was hoping.
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All branded/carrier phones are. Tell us something new...
LenAsh said:
All branded/carrier phones are. Tell us something new...
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I've seen some phones in the past that were sold by T-Mobile or other carriers but were not bootloader locked. With T-Mobile's new business model and the fact that Sony was selling it outright at their stores, you would think that it should be unlocked.
All phones have locked bootloaders when they come from the store. 'Bootloader unlock allowed' means if it is allowed to unlock it yourself or not, but doing so will void your warranty and wipe your DRM keys (which are needed for Mobile BRAVIA Engine 2, MusicID/Gracenote, etc.).
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There is a carrier here in Spain that sells unlockable Xperias. It's the fourth mayor carrier so is not a shady one.
DrKrFfXx said:
There is a carrier here in Spain that sells unlockable Xperias. It's the fourth mayor carrier so is not a shady one.
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sim locked and locked bootloader are two separate things. >.>
usually when some stores states "selling unlocked xperia/galaxy/iphone/ etc.." it means the phone is unlocked and it can be used anywhere else. When you purchase a phone from a store (Sony store) or carrier (At&T) it is locked to them. In other words, the phone cannot be used with another sim card like T-Mobile, since the phone is locked to At&t.
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sim locked and locked bootloader are two separate things. >.>
usually when some stores states "selling unlocked xperia/galaxy/iphone/ etc.." it means the phone is unlocked and it can be used anywhere else. When you purchase a phone from a store (Sony store) or carrier (At&T) it is locked to them. In other words, the phone cannot be used with another sim card like T-Mobile, since the phone is locked to At&t.
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I totally understand what is sim and boot lock.
I've had in my hands a couple of Xperia devices from that company (Yoigo), one Xperia Mini Pro I think, and the other one a Xperia Z, and both had "Bootloader Unlockable: Yes" on the service menu.
I've read that some custom ROMs can still be flashed on this phone without unlocking the bootloader. Is this true?
skynet11 said:
I've read that some custom ROMs can still be flashed on this phone without unlocking the bootloader. Is this true?
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Yes, if they are based on the stock kernel.
Apollo89 said:
Yes, if they are based on the stock kernel.
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anyone have the basebands ftf for this model yet?
HoOnZ said:
I've seen some phones in the past that were sold by T-Mobile or other carriers but were not bootloader locked. With T-Mobile's new business model and the fact that Sony was selling it outright at their stores, you would think that it should be unlocked.
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T-Mobile isn't really known for locking bootloaders. Verizon on the other hand... When it comes to locked boot loaders it seems to be like this.
Locked carriers:
Verizon
at&t
Mostly unlocked carriers:
Sprint
T-Mobile
Phone brands locked:
HTC
Sony Xperia
sometimes LG
Phone brands not locked
Huawei
Samsung
This has just been my experience.
Will the roms in the development thread work on the TMO version? Might go pick this up in a week or two.
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Will the roms in the development thread work on the TMO version? Might go pick this up in a week or two.
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Only if they're based on the stock kernel. Something like 'for locked bootloader' has to be mentioned. They often have 'LB' in their titles.
Apollo89 said:
Only if they're based on the stock kernel. Something like 'for locked bootloader' has to be mentioned. They often have 'LB' in their titles.
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This maybe a stupid question, but I've never flashed a ROM on a locked bootloader. Will the roms still be able to be bloat and CIQ free?
i understand that the bootloader is locked for the t-mo version (c6606), but what about root?
i want to be able to run ti backup and get rid of all these ads...
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i understand that the bootloader is locked for the t-mo version (c6606), but what about root?
i want to be able to run ti backup and get rid of all these ads...
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locked bootloader has nothing to do with its ability of being rootable or not.
Root should run fine on tmo version.
LitoNi said:
locked bootloader has nothing to do with its ability of being rootable or not.
Root should run fine on tmo version.
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gotcha... just found out that the DooMLoRD Easy Rooting Toolkit was just updated to v17 to support my device...
all good now :good:
now i just need to upgrade to 4.2.2
I played with the TMO version today and find it inferior compared to my own C6602. The first problem is the branding and bloatware - yes it is bloated carrier style and a lot of TMO notifications where shown on the demo unit. One of the demo units had noticeable lag, much worse than my C6602 back in March on .350. The other one were smoother.
I managed to put System Tuner on one of them - it runs the standard Interactive governor and 384-1551 is the used frequencies.
The price tag was very high - $610, $579 with "appropriate plan". More expensive than in the Sony Store for an unbranded, unlocked and superior C6602.
I just don't see any reason to buy the TMO version when there is the C6602 available for less money (albeit at a small difference) that can be bootloader unlocked and optimized. Paying MORE for a carrier branded device? No way.
To those that feel that they need to talk LTE with me as a reason to buy the branded edition: wait for the Honami instead - it will offer a superior LTE radio, which means that it can be used on many carriers. I base this assumption on the nice multiband LTE radio that the Z Ultra offers.
After playing with the T-Mobile version, my recommendation of the C6602 instead is stronger than before.
To those that want to argue about prices: use a credit card instead if $539 is "too much".
t-mobile's wifi calling feature is the ONLY reason why i went with the C6606... having lte is nice too, i guess
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t-mobile's wifi calling feature is the ONLY reason why i went with the C6606... having lte is nice too, i guess
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I don't get the reason the have WiFi Calling when there is a little thing called Google Voice. I can make free calls to the whole US that way and even configure it as a 100% IP phone with GrooveIP. For international calls, I am using Viber or Voice (my relatives in Sweden use Viber so we have free calls).
To me, carrier bloat and locked bootloaders are total dealbreakers and I can't really see how WiFi Calling can compensate.
LTE? I will get it when I can buy a standard, unlocked device and use it. As long as I need carrier branding in order to use it - I say pass.
Hey whats up guys,
Im looking at getting a z1 and found a good deal on a Z1s. However, being exclusive to T-mobile, it won't be as common as the Z1. So I'm afraid that ROM variety won't be as great as the normal Z1 or anyone knows if the Z1 ROMs are compatible with the Z1s?
What do you guys think?
Nope, they're not, simply, different models.
Try to get the z1 and not the z1s,the updates on the z1 are more faster than the z1s,that phone have some disvantage.
Good luck.
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sounds like the smart thing to do. Thank you!
No problem, I'm here to help, any question you can ask me via email or private message.
Have a good night, sir.
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Z1s has a locked BL too so I don't think it even has root at this point.
If I remember correctly you would not get LTE service on Tmobile with the Z1.
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If I remember correctly you would not get LTE service on Tmobile with the Z1.
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There are several variants, and there is an international Z1 variant that was LTE that works with T-Mobile, I think it's the C6903.
The main issue with buying an international version I think is the lack of warranty in the U.S. since it's not sold directly by Sony in the states. The only way to get a warranty on the "Z1" is to buy the Z1S from T-Mobile The regular unlocked Xperia Z is sold in the U.S. by Sony however and has a warranty if you want to go that route... but you'd get the Qualcomm S4 instead of the 800.
EDIT - Here is the international version that works with T-Mo in the U.S., but as I said, no warranty.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Factory-Unlocked-International-Warranty/dp/B00ET7MWWO
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There are several variants, and there is an international Z1 variant that was LTE that works with T-Mobile, I think it's the C6903.
The main issue with buying an international version I think is the lack of warranty in the U.S. since it's not sold directly by Sony in the states. The only way to get a warranty on the "Z1" is to buy the Z1S from T-Mobile The regular unlocked Xperia Z is sold in the U.S. by Sony however and has a warranty if you want to go that route... but you'd get the Qualcomm S4 instead of the 800.
EDIT - Here is the international version that works with T-Mo in the U.S., but as I said, no warranty.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Factory-Unlocked-International-Warranty/dp/B00ET7MWWO
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I don't think so. The Z1 is sold on sony's online store. I think you can get the 6902 and 6906 from Sony.com. The 6903/6906 will get LTE on tmo
Locked or not it's still a damn good phone.
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If you bought the Sony Z1s on T-Mobile you were probably disappointed to learn that it has a locked bootloader and is therefore currently unrootable. Unfortunately, T-Mobile requested Sony to lock the bootloader. The non T-Mobile exclusive version, the Sony Z1, has an official method of unlocking the bootloader courtesy of Sony.
T-Mobile has stated that locked bootloader is necessary because rooting the phone voids the warranty and users may install software that can harm the device.
Every user that roots accepts the their warranty may be voided and that the device may be harmed.
The vast majority of T-Mobile devices do not have a locked bootloader and can be rooted.
This is a surprising and very disappointing move by the so called "uncarrier".
Please sign this petition which will be sent to the Executive Response team at T-Mobile.
http://chn.ge/1k6HIYx
Root achieved!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2644946
96 people have now signed! Keep spreading the word! So close
I knew it this day will come, I just hope this petition will work, because most of them are useless sadly
I'll support petition, don't have Z1s but Z1.... but who cares...
It's a longshot but there's not much to lose...
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Signed
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Signed it. Also had my family sign it. There's 3 signatures.
Signed even though I don't have the T-Mobile version. Hope this works.
My understanding is that It's not just T-Mo, or the Z1/Z1s. Every carrier locked version of any Xperia device is the same, "bootloader unlock allowed" is always No.
I'm locked to EE in the UK and my bootloader can't be unlocked (generally EE don't care about that sort of thing), my mum who as an O2 branded version is the same.
El Presidente81 said:
My understanding is that It's not just T-Mo, or the Z1/Z1s. Every carrier locked version of any Xperia device is the same, "bootloader unlock allowed" is always No.
I'm locked to EE in the UK and my bootloader can't be unlocked (generally EE don't care about that sort of thing), my mum who as an O2 branded version is the same.
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WRONG
I am on Vodafone (UK) contract and every single phone I have had from them comes with the ability to unlock the bootloader
3x Xperia T and 1x Xperia Z1
Plus X10 and neo and arc... but that was before the days of official support for unlocking
gregbradley said:
WRONG
I am on Vodafone (UK) contract and every single phone I have had from them comes with the ability to unlock the bootloader
3x Xperia T and 1x Xperia Z1
Plus X10 and neo and arc... but that was before the days of official support for unlocking
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Are you SIM free or carrier locked?
It doesn't matter
It has been mentioned (Incorrectly) many times about the link between sim free / contract phones
The correct version is this
In general SIM free non contract phones come with an unlockable bootloadler, but not all of them. Some have bootlaoders which cannot be unlocked.
In general carrier SIM locked phones have bootloaders which cannot be unlocked, but some do not. (Mine as an example)
Support.
Kushal19.
Anyone figure out if there's a way to unlock the bootloader after all?
I'll sign the petition. I wouldn't have bought the phone had I known the bootloader was locked. I bought it the day it was released in the U.S. It looks like the Z1s isn't getting 5.1.1, so I'd love to be able to manually install it.
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I read the post where someone asked about an unlocked Moto Z Force, and I met with the Moto rep at Verizon today who again said that it would be a Verizon exclusive, but I think we might have something with the thought that eventually, there will be a "Force Pure" (for lack of a real term of what it would be called) being sold directly through Moto, like the 2015 Pure was. I have AT&T and want to stay with them AND get a "Force Pure" model that will allow me to easily unlock the bootloader and use one of the many root options already available. I know the regular Z model will get an unlocked version for GSM carriers in September, but Verizon can't truly hold the Force model all to themselves forever..... right?
We also have people like this claiming to sell "unlocked GSM Moto Z Force" phones on eBay, when they probably just mean carrier unlocked, which isn't nearly as hard as bootloader unlocked.
And speaking of not knowing what we're talking about when we mean "unlocked," can we all learn the difference between the developer option to allow the bootloader to be unlocked and the NEXT step required to actually unlock it? With the Moto X Pure, you must start by selecting that option, go on Moto's website, give them your phone's info, and THEN the phone can be bootloader unlocked - the Verizon locked phones will never get that unless devs find the hack around it. If you are confused on any of what I said, then learn how it's done on the Moto X Pure here, which is a whole lot longer than just flipping the switch on the developer option.... Lots of people here seem to think that's how it works, so I'm addressing it here before someone incorrectly says that it is already available - which it isn't and won't be on Verizon....
Unlocked bootloader .....never gonna happen but sim unlocked for GSM? It already has
thyrellik said:
Unlocked bootloader .....never gonna happen but sim unlocked for GSM? It already has
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Please read my actual question again before even bringing up SIM unlocking.... what makes you so sure that the upcoming GSM-only model sold directly by Moto won't ever be able to be bootloader unlocked? Or are you just speculating based on the current Verizon offerings?
The Verizon moto z and z force is carrier unlock, free to use on any gsm. I'm using a z force on cricket. And there is no way to unlock bootloader for these phone.
Only the moto z gsm version coming in September can have bootloader unlock.