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>>> Build Quality - The Good, Bad, Ugly <<<

Good : Well i love the new tablet and in hand its light and a pleasure to use, the Plastic back is nice in hand and not slippery and visually this tablet is great. But ...........
Bad and Ugly : Here's my issue with the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
What is happening and i can see this being a big problem down the road of use is that when i hold the Tab with my left hand in portrait with the dock connector on my palm of the left hand, the thin piece of the housing is getting bent and pulled away from the glass and over time i see this getting stretched out. i think Samsung should have built the aluminum edging more webbing in the glass to keep that delicate piece from being so flexible and flimsy.
Anyone else having/noticing this issue or any other flaws, defects ????
Here's a few pics of what i am mentioning :
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/img0528y.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/img0529ze.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/img0534n.jpg

Damn, and here I was pondering returning my Transformer for a better build quality Samsung. Shootz!
I still may do it though since I never use portrait mode and for the most part it will be on a stand, but still, it sucks to see that.

You must have a 10.1v
I have the Google i/o edition and the side looks different than your with regard to the placement of those round hole covers on either side in relation to the curve.
I think that on the i/o (hopefully it will be the same as the 10.1) it has resolved that issue. I am trying to hold it as you are mentioning and I see no movement whatsoever. even if i try to pry at it, it is super solid.
is your a 10.1v?
R

^^ No mines the 10.1

H0CKEY said:
^^ No mines the 10.1
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Same as the previous poster my LE from I/O does not look like that either. So what 10.1 do you have?

cosimoss said:
Same as the previous poster my LE from I/O does not look like that either. So what 10.1 do you have?
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mines from San Fran USA - Dev Conference , its the white back Limited Edition

Everyone needs to specify details regarding there unit if they have one. It is clear that the limited edition/early release galaxy tabs are not identically the same as the one yet to be released.

thats really strange, your tablet looks way different than mine which also came from the recent i/o event.
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it would seem there were multiple version of the same device if you have the limited edition white backed then...
anyone else? which do you have?
R

im trying to re-create your picture to make sure its not an optical illusion, but your bottom half of the silver bezel looks so angular/curved compared to mine which as you can see from the picture above is much less curved. Espeically noticeable with the small round hole covers on either end of the connector, mine are not very curves, yours seemvery curved and angular.
???
R

three weeks left and still so many questions and so little definitive answers! oh the humanity
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RTessi said:
thats really strange, your tablet looks way different than mine which also came from the recent i/o event.
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it would seem there were multiple version of the same device if you have the limited edition white backed then...
anyone else? which do you have?
R
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No mine looks the same from that angle , here's a pic
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/img0535cj.jpg/

I don't understand - are you using it while something is plugged into the dock connector, or is just from normal use? Maybe you are just holding it wrong?

normal use , i take very good care of my toys hahaha
And no i don't have it plugged in when using it
if you hold it left handed its normal i find that the palm and strong of the thumb seem to put stress on the thin strip of aluminum and slightly pulls it away from the glass since on mine the thin strip is not any thicker under the glass as what i can see visually. so its seems to be a weak point of the aluminum bezel

Bummer i wonder if a port plug would help.
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I am not experiencing that same problem, but the glass in one of the corners does appear to be pealing up. Link below. Hoping that this is as far as it raises, but who knows... I talked to the Samsung guy at Google I/O and had my first device replaced for a similar issue I noticed there, and he said this first batch was made by hand in a bit of a rush so that they would be available for us googlers. I expect that the automated and machine driven build process for the production units will have more consistent quality.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/imag0206a.jpg/

brianwilcox said:
I am not experiencing that same problem, but the glass in one of the corners does appear to be pealing up. Link below. Hoping that this is as far as it raises, but who knows... I talked to the Samsung guy at Google I/O and had my first device replaced for a similar issue I noticed there, and he said this first batch was made by hand in a bit of a rush so that they would be available for us googlers. I expect that the automated and machine driven build process for the production units will have more consistent quality.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/imag0206a.jpg/
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Harsh that looks bad. I think the quality of the aluminum bezel is to thin and over time with alot of use our holding styles will cause these kind of issues.

H0CKEY said:
Harsh that looks bad. I think the quality of the aluminum bezel is to thin and over time with alot of use our holding styles will cause these kind of issues.
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Just got off the phone with Samsung about this issue. They will allow me to send the unit to them for repair/replacement. Im just a little worried about going through the whole process only to find that they will send me back a unit with similar or worse build quality issues... Anyone else noticing problems with the screen raising up? Might just stick with what I have for fear of winding up with an even worse unit. Really was starting to fall in love with this thing.

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Just got off the phone with Samsung about this issue. They will allow me to send the unit to them for repair/replacement. Im just a little worried about going through the whole process only to find that they will send me back a unit with similar or worse build quality issues... Anyone else noticing problems with the screen raising up? Might just stick with what I have for fear of winding up with an even worse unit. Really was starting to fall in love with this thing.
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I'm getting the same thing. Mine was this way out of the box at the conference, and with the plastic back pulling back, it looked like the tablet was warped. I popped it back into place and it looked good so I didn't say anything to anyone at the conference about it. I probably should have though, because now the screen is separating from the housing again in those two corners.
I stupidly threw away the blue card they gave at I/O that had the contact info for Samsung, who did you talk to about getting it repaired?

Not exactly getting a warm fuzzy feeling from this thread. I pre-ordered online. Starting to think I might want to cancel that and just wait for it at Best Buy, if even the Samsung tablets are having build quality issues.

Oh no. I was afraid these reports would begin to surface on the 10.1. Some of these issues described Ive seen in the 10.1v as well, although my biggest gripe with these is the severe backlight bleeding. I have now exchanged this device with Vodafone AU twice and seen a total of 6 units and all have had backlight bleeding and inconsistent build quality.
With the first unit I received both right corners of the screen were popping out over the bezel a little. I believed it to be a problem with the adhesive used, because if you were to put pressure on the corner it would hold for a second then release, and you could hear the "sticky" sound as the adhesive separated.
All the units I've sampled though have had really shocking problems with backlight bleeding/leakage. If you're someone who planned to watch movies on this tablet in dimly lit rooms, you could find this distracting. I do. Its a shame really because I otherwise like the quality of the display, and both 10.1 models are nicely designed and nice to hold. In a lot of ways I prefer the feel of the 10.1v over the iPad 2. Too bad though that the build quality is questionable across the range of what is now 3 different variants of the 10.1 that Samsung has produced. What's the deal Samy?!
I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet but most likely I'll return this 10.1v to Vodafail for a refund and wait it out for the 8.9. Perhaps I'll have better luck then?
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Targus TRUSS Leather case for ICONIA A500

Hey everyone I just picked this new leather case at my local Best Buy. I saw it online and it was already on back order but checked the local store and they had them. It fits really well and I have been waiting for a good leather case with multiple viewing angles. Just thought I would share.

Any Pictures?

love it
Picked up one myself and love it. Well worth 40 bucks

Here are some pictures.

orion30 said:
Picked up one myself and love it. Well worth 40 bucks
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I have to agree with you 100% it's well worth it!

what is that weather widget i see on your home screen looks cool

plemme61 said:
what is that weather widget i see on your home screen looks cool
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It's Beautiful Widgets app with honeyclock clock skin and Oxygen HD weather skin. It works very well on my A500!
Thanks

I picked up one myself. I love it, its exactly what I wanted. My only complaint is its a little heavier then I had hoped for.

I just bought the case at my local Best Buy. So far I like it but it's kinda thick though.

I got the last one at my Best Buy. I like, the only thing that bothers me is that the front facing camera gets covered sometimes, but I just insert my stylus on that flap on the top right corner so its right under the power button and it keeps the camera in the clear.

It looks a lot better than the one that Acer made. I wish I could return the one I bought at Staples and get that one.

Isn't it covering up part of the volume down button? From the pics it looks like it is.. Can someone confirm?

Euclid's Brother said:
Isn't it covering up part of the volume down button? From the pics it looks like it is.. Can someone confirm?
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Yes sir covering up the most importnant one. Volume - for recovery. But if you push on it still works. Just covers a portion of it. Still accessible love this case so far just bought it last night.

Gonna go look at it today. Looks awfully thick compared to the acer one... other than that, it looks really nice.
Are there cut-outs for the speakers?
Edit: Got it. Love it. I found that I can just press the leather strap at the top for volume down. it does slightly obscure the front camera, but it's not like I ever USE it. No one want's to see me anyway. And if I did use it.. I can just pull that strap behind the tab temporarily.

Case looks good but i am having a feeling it will add alot of bulk to the tablet

I bought one and love it. It does add bulk, but it adds protection. The case could probably protect the tablet from pretty decent drop.
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Euclid's Brother said:
it does slightly obscure the front camera, but it's not like I ever USE it.
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I have some real nice photo's of the strap hangs behind when the case is open. (a little sarcasm there).
When the case is open, and the strap is dangling behind the tablet, it hangs EXACTLY in front of the rear facing camera. Makes it kind of odd to take picures.. have to pull the strap up and hook it over the top corner to keep it out of the way.
meh.. i guess that's not too difficult. The stand function is much more stable than the acer oem case was. I still love this.

daswahnsinn said:
It looks a lot better than the one that Acer made. I wish I could return the one I bought at Staples and get that one.
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Yeah, I returned the Acer one back to Staples a couple days after I bought it. Not only was it cheap feeling and poorly fitting, but it either shed or attracted an insane amount of dust/lint. Every time I opened it my screen was practically frosted.
So now I have this Targus case the OP bought. It's definitely protective and high quality and the built in stand is great, but it's huge. I know it is supposed to resemble a portfolio so I'm not surprised at the size. At the moment, there really isn't anything better from a reliable manufacturer, so I'll probably switch to this from my usual In-Case neoprene slipper case. I'd love a rigid, snap on style case with screen cover like their Magazine case for the iPad. Keeping my fingers crossed

based on all the positive feedback I purchase the truss case today. It is a bit bulky, but I do not mind the heft, because it gives me a good piece of mind knowing the a500 is protected. I wonder how long the elastic on the closing strap will last with it being pulled and turned around all the time. Overall, it seems to be a great case.

When open place the strap over the top. It's out of the way and keeps the tab in his case

[Q] Glue on the frame?

I've just received my transformers, but I have some problems/questions.
Is it normal, that there is some kind of white things around the screens frame? maybe some glue or something like that. and it seems like the plastic frame is not really nice/smooth.
I made a photo of this, I have attached it.
is it normal, or should I bring it back for exchange?

Mine does not have this but I am really beginning to think the QC coming out of ASUS really sucks.
My advice....return it and get the Samsung. My buddy just got one and it is flawless except for the limitations, i.e. no sd card, etc.
I would return mine but I bought it from Office Depot and they won't give me a refund and they don't sell the Samsung.

Lulz ya I actually had a little spot of something near the top of my screen but it wasn't really white but it did feel like maybe some sort of adhesive, but it was only in one tiny spot and it rubbed off. Yours just looks bad, that's really not right I wouldn't think I'd send it back. And ya I'm hearing good things about the Samsung build quality but I couldn't live without this dock now and the slots otherwise I'd be selling mine and getting a Samsung. Hoping the Transformer 2 is much better overall.

darkonex said:
Lulz ya I actually had a little spot of something near the top of my screen but it wasn't really white but it did feel like maybe some sort of adhesive, but it was only in one tiny spot and it rubbed off. Yours just looks bad, that's really not right I wouldn't think I'd send it back. And ya I'm hearing good things about the Samsung build quality but I couldn't live without this dock now and the slots otherwise I'd be selling mine and getting a Samsung. Hoping the Transformer 2 is much better overall.
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Doesn't the Samsung have a dock? I am like you, I wanted the sd expandability but now dealing with this poor build quality I wonder which would have been more difficult to live with.

Yes I believe it does have a dock of sorts, but not like the Transformer one where it clicks in and turns it into a tablet, and don't believe it has 2 USB ports and SD card slot or trackpad, so sounds as worthless as the ones for iPad.

I have the same kind of "glue" on the top side. Its however not over the entire length, just on 2 places. It bothered me a bit but now i have it in a case its covered and doesnt bother me.. It seems asus has a lot of production inperfection with the transformer.
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WiZARD7 said:
I've just received my transformers, but I have some problems/questions.
Is it normal, that there is some kind of white things around the screens frame? maybe some glue or something like that. and it seems like the plastic frame is not really nice/smooth.
I made a photo of this, I have attached it.
is it normal, or should I bring it back for exchange?
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It looks like you're missing the raised black "spacer" that sits between the glass and the bezel ... 100% manufacturing defect.
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WiZARD7 said:
I've just received my transformers, but I have some problems/questions.
Is it normal, that there is some kind of white things around the screens frame? maybe some glue or something like that. and it seems like the plastic frame is not really nice/smooth.
I made a photo of this, I have attached it.
is it normal, or should I bring it back for exchange?
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mine does not have too .... but right speaker is already dead. as someone else said QA sucks big time at Asus (at least for this product). get Samsung if u don't care about micro SD etc + $100 more. and return it while u can... cost many places 15 day return policy. good luck.

EP2008 said:
It looks like you're missing the raised black "spacer" that sits between the glass and the bezel ... 100% manufacturing defect.
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I have the spacer, the glue is on the spacer...

Exchange it, someone elsewhere on this forum did a strip down of a TF and there was no glue mentioned, looks like it has been botched up after production, I would be appalled if it was at assembly level, as this unit should have not past QC and should have been binned.
It is sad to read the comments on this forum as my unit is nearly perfect, slight light bleed but no worse than my I pad one, both pad and dock are of the build standard of a quality notebook, I have had both for 5 weeks and they are getting better by the day. I believe that the TF and future ASUS tablets will outsell Samsung due to their versitility.
Hope you get it sorted, and enjoy using your TF as much as the majority of us do.

WiZARD7 said:
I have the spacer, the glue is on the spacer...
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LOL... there should be a neat black plastic instead of glue there - I'm assume the glue holds this neat band of black plastic in place. Exchange it now!
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I had the same problem and i returned it.
Posted from my rooted transformer.

This isn't new. I've read about this happening to one guy in the UK and he said he went and tried to exchange but the other units had glue as well and other customers had brought them in for exchange.
Last I remember they gave him some sort of discount.
If you want to get an RMA with the retailer you brought it from, do it. Don't however, do an RMA with Asus over this. It's not worth the problems.

they have replaced it

Return it for a new one. Mine doesn't have that either and I would be upset if I received it brand new with glue along the edges.
Glad to see they have replaced it for you.

Looking for a couple things...

Looking for two things...
1. I want to use my tablet as an alarm clock. Can somebody suggest me a dock or a stand that I can get off of Amazon that will charge the tablet as well as keep it standing up (landscape)?
2. I need a portfolio case, not expensive off of Amazon as well. Suggestions?

I purchased a cheap portfolio case of amazon, it's much better then the riot brand one I already had, and at 1/4 the price, it also came with a screen protector (which I haven't installed yet) and an hdmi cable. all for $15. It has the cutout for the dock.

Also Acer does sell a dock but it does not charge from the dock. Your search might just be the case I have acres portfolio case and it pretty good.
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Yeah, thanks for the info but links would be really helpful.

Google them that's how I find
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BrianDigital said:
Google them that's how I find
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Kind of a big variable. I am looking for specifics that people have had luck with.

Bump...

Have you looked through Amazon and read the review of products?
Have you gone through this forum and looked at the reviews people have posted?
You could just get a case that stands well in landscape and plug your tablet in... you would kill two birds with one stone.
It seems like you are expecting people to come here and tell you what to buy, and I just don't think that will happen. If you have gone through all the review threads here, you should have a good idea of what cases people like and if you can narrow it down to a few I am sure people would be able to give you their opinion of one over the other.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_n...=acer+a500&ie=UTF8&qid=1330355343&rnid=541966 - There are all the accessories Amazon has for the A500.

Anybody have luck with this at all?
http://www.amazon.com/rooCASE-Multi...ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1330453459&sr=1-1

rooCase FTW!
The rooCase is a badass case, I have it, it has velcro on the bottom so you can adjust the angle to your needs, and it even has magnets on the top of the lid, it´s pretty awesome for $15, seriously. Tablet won´t slip and you get access to both sides without trouble. The only but is that you have to take it out of the casse to get to the microsd slot (which for me is not a big deal, seriously).
Plus it´s leather!

http://www.amazon.com/BLUREX-Leathe...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337535049&sr=1-1
The BEST case for the A500.
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I bought a Acer brand folio case and its pretty nice but if you use zagg screen protector It doesn't work that well since its kinda sticky film but.. The folio case is perfect for any one that wants a dock feel plus cheep!
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Cracked Screen

Ugh, opened my car door earlier and both of my phones slid out and dropped. Of course, the one with the case is fine (x522). My x720 alas, cracked. It works still, obviosuly, but could worsen, especially the impact spot. Anyone know how much it is to fix the screen, or if its even worth it. Hate to have to look for a new phone...

Sorry to hear that. I have seen screens for as low as $13.00. But I would spend a little more for better quality. Supposedly the all black s1 screen works well and it looks good because its all black and it will modernize the look of the phone.
Use a heat gun to remove the screen you can videos on Youtube.
https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Display-Screen-digitizer-Assembly/dp/B07318CRM5
If you want to sell it @Distributor might be interested in it.

tsongming said:
Sorry to hear that. I have seen screens for as low as $13.00. But I would spend a little more for better quality. Supposedly the all black s1 screen works well and it looks good because its all black and it will modernize the look of the phone.
Use a heat gun to remove the screen you can videos on Youtube.
https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Display-Screen-digitizer-Assembly/dp/B07318CRM5
If you want to sell it @Distributor might be interested in it.
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Are those 13$ screen as good as the original?

Coconut tree said:
Are those 13$ screen as good as the original?
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I have no idea.
Personally, I would spend a little more and buy from Amazon. With Amazon you not only have the Manufacturer's warranty. You also have a money back guarantee by Amazon themselves. For this reason, I buy most of my online purchases through Amazon.
However, I just found this https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...-X725-X727-LCD-Display-Touch/32819262724.html and according to the description its OEM ( Original Equipment Manufacturer)
So Go for the less expensive one.
Make sure that you order some 3m or professional Smart phone repair tape.
FYI, when you put the screen back on it fits tightly and will stay even without Glue and tape. But you absolutely want tape of even better water resealable glue
Adhesive Sticker Tape
MMOBIEL B-7000 50ML Multipurpose High Performance Industrial Super Glue

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/cgXokqbm
I got this one (the black one), and couldnt be happier. Dont see any difference vs stock.

trizex said:
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/cgXokqbm
I got this one (the black one), and couldnt be happier. Dont see any difference vs stock.
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Nice, once you have it installed post some pictures.

tsongming said:
Nice, once you have it installed post some pictures.
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Its been on for a few months now, I'll post a few later

trizex said:
Its been on for a few months now, I'll post a few later
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Please do. Thanks.
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i think i might 'upgrade' to the x850 or x950 instead, and get a case this time heh