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New video of the ARC, full 11min preview/review

Courtesy of HDBlog http://bitsnacker.com/index.php/201...oming-xperia-arc-gingerbread-handset#item_121
Must say i do like it, seems much faster but after being on my 2nd handset with the x10 and still trying to get it replaced sony's customer service has put me off buying another handset from them, its a shame it does look a nice phone. Not really bothered about the late update nonsense but i'm sure they will improve this after last year
just wondering how much of this new UI on SE apps we will get in the UXP update

go3asy said:
[...]just wondering how much of this new UI on SE apps we will get in the UXP update
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I doubt we will see anything from Arc's UXP on our X10. What's more, Arc may be a nice phone, however the support given by Sony for X10 is just pathetic, that's not how you treat your very first Android product. My next "Green Phone" won't be Sony, that's for sure.
Wish you good luck with Arc guys (for those who will decide to buy it)!

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I doubt we will see anything from Arc's UXP on our X10. What's more, Arc may be a nice phone, however the support given by Sony for X10 is just pathetic, that's not how you treat your very first Android product. My next "Green Phone" won't be Sony, that's for sure.
Wish you good luck with Arc guys (for those who will decide to buy it)!
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First thing i would need is to be able to switch the buttons on the arc. Why in the living H-bomb would they put the back button on the opposite side. OMFG why.
Good video anyways, got to see most of the features. if you can call them features

I would want one, but, no front-facing camera in this day and age makes me kinda sad.
Hmmm. I still have a year on contract with Docomo anyway, by then, the PlayStation phone will be out!

They are still a little behind in the hardware side aswell, its basically the same hardware as the x10, most handets this year will be dual core etc desire HD 700mb ram they have just added more to the x10 to bring it up to 512 which tbh should have been in the first place

There's an Arc forum already, so posting something related to that new phone in the proper forum would be better

may do was really about the possible upgrades for us

You can post this in the new Xperia Arc forum.

I think some of the devs will port the Arc rom to the X10, then we'll have the new things.
I just want the picture and music widgets...

Forget the arc's rom I want pure naked froyo. I don't see how anyone can say no to vanilla froyo.
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Im sure the drivers may be able to be used for vanilla 2.3 off the arc for us? maybe

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Im sure the drivers may be able to be used for vanilla 2.3 off the arc for us? maybe
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Unlikely. Don't think SE is just going to give it away. This is SE we're talking about... :s
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X10 getting 2.3, x8 and mini still stuck on 2.1 with no plans to update

Looks like all the QQ did some good. For x10 owners at least.
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/¸
P.S. Probably has something to do with the x10 bootloader being bypassed and the good progress devs are having with loading custom kernels.

yes i think also SE is scared about loosing conrtol about there own devices. So they want to bind us again to themselfe.

Yeah,we already know that

nope we already got 2.3..through xda dev

Meh! Again we are left high and dry.We didn't get dual touch update either and now this too.
Why can't we get both x10 and x8 ,2.3, because SE doesn't have resources. And here we have J providing gingerbread to entire xperia series with help of some devs!
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Will you upgrade the XperiaTM X10 mini, mini pro and XperiaTM X8 to 2.3?
No, we have no such plans. We have had to prioritize our resources and have therefore focused on delivering the upgrade to XperiaTM X10.
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They have to prioritize their team to provide 2.3 for only X10. While most work to bring CM7 to X10/X10mini/X8 has been done by only 2 devs: jerpelea and racht. Such a shame to SE.

What a ****ty news, I feel like smashing my phone in S.E. face... hope no S.E. worker gets in my sight cause I am mad as hell! I mean come on, I was ok with the 2.1 on all current xperia line but this ? WTF is with this discrimination, F*** THEM!

Wait,xperia line was always updated together and new cerficated update was relased on 23 of march for x8.
Please sony update x8 and x10 minis too.

if they won't update x8 to 2.3 or 2.2, i won't buy another SE phone !!! never !!! and i think that i'm not the only one

as-mario said:
Wait,xperia line was always updated together and new cerficated update was relased on 23 of march for x8.
Please sony update x8 and x10 minis too.
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i hope se have some time to read this thread

I will break forum rules now...
SSSSSSSHHHHHIIIIITTTT
SONY IS A SHHHHHIIIITTTTIIINNNNGGG ****!!!!
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I love my X8 but...
Don't get me wrong, I love my X8. However this is the first, and last, time I shall ever buy a Sony phone. I only bought mine last December, after a big Christmas marketing push by Vodafone here in Portugal. Imagine my dismay (and disgust!) to discover, after less than a month, that Sony already considered the phone obsolete before I'd even bought it :-(
Oh well. Live and learn I suppose (but it also makes me much less likely to buy anything Sony in the future...)

Rendering my x8 obsolete after only 4 months after seeing 1 proper update (1.6 --> 2.1)... not good.
Was planning to upgrade to Xperia Play, but I no longer trust SonyEricsson and have given up all plans of buying any of their products again.
That being said, XDA makes the x8 a very decent little phone. But still the XDA devs are fighting an up-hill struggle against the lockdowns imposed by SE. Thank you XDA, screw you SonyEricsson

droidjens said:
Rendering my x8 obsolete after only 4 months after seeing 1 proper update (1.6 --> 2.1)... not good.
Was planning to upgrade to Xperia Play, but I no longer trust SonyEricsson and have given up all plans of buying any of their products again.
That being said, XDA makes the x8 a very decent little phone. But still the XDA devs are fighting an up-hill struggle against the lockdowns imposed by SE. Thank you XDA, screw you SonyEricsson
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on sonyericsson lauch blog writes no plain,not we will not upgrade x8 and minis just no plain
the real idea is to bypass bootloader so sony ericsson will update x8

Well mates, I think it's time to make some noise in SE blogs, this is not only a discrimination, this feels like your older brother was given by it's mother a bigger and better toy to play with, and we, the younger sons, can play with lego for eternity. Ah... This is a lack of respect, lack of sense, we do not only need that upgrade, we need recon. We are costumers, we spent our money buying the phones, we are SE future, our opinions and thoughts will count in next sales. We can't just be left behind, I know SE certified some firmwares recently, but, if they were thinking to upgrade us, they would have done it now at same time as X10.
Well it seems this is a way too give further security to bootloader, and remove kexec exploit. There's no downgrading after this. It's a terrible choice (my thought). So, we (x8,x10mini/pro owners) don't really need this upgrade since we have J & racht & so many great developers contributing, and I have so much to thank them for the hard work, precious time they take to do it, and for sharing it with XDA community, well I can say, with all users around the world. We are very near to reach total freedom.
Regards

That are not full working roms
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I hate SE businnes strategy...

Doomguy said:
I hate SE businnes strategy...
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Me too but worst is that their profit fall 20% from 2010 and they are so bad to custumers,realy and one more thing why they put so expensive phones in sale,x8 and minis will sell better with better support because they cheap but for 100 $ more i will buy htc wildfire.
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thedailycommute said:
Don't get me wrong, I love my X8. However this is the first, and last, time I shall ever buy a Sony phone. I only bought mine last December, after a big Christmas marketing push by Vodafone here in Portugal. Imagine my dismay (and disgust!) to discover, after less than a month, that Sony already considered the phone obsolete before I'd even bought it :-(
Oh well. Live and learn I suppose (but it also makes me much less likely to buy anything Sony in the future...)
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Cmo eu te compreendo, a mim foi exactamente igual.. xD
I made exactly the same mistake.. :/
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Asdoos said:
yes i think also SE is scared about loosing conrtol about there own devices. So they want to bind us again to themselfe.
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Sony want this upgrade, and maybe this software update will also bring an bootloader upgrade, which will give us no chance of Xrecovery or Root, So, i stay with XDA

Sad news..,gingerbread for samsung galaxi family..

This news with hurt who buy xperia android phone.., very disappointed..., even galaxi mini with more cheaper than x8 will have gigngerbread from the official samsung.,what the hell with sony.., we only just eclair., never buy sony agains
androidos.in/2011/05/samsung-gingerbread-update-galaxy-s-ace-fit-gio-mini-tab/
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Maybe now SE will launch Ginger on X8.

Drakenfall said:
Maybe now SE will launch Ginger on X8.
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i don't think so. why should they do it ??? they don't care about they customers, they care only about money ...

fifo171 said:
i don't think so. why should they do it ??? they don't care about they customers, they care only about money ...
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Why? well, if their competititors are launching the Ginger even in the low end phones, SE will be left behind in the competition, to keep up they should update theyre low end also.
Well, at least it´s a hope...not that they will.

these noob's from SE....
from today ONLY HTC, great smartphone's with great funcionality, for the same money...

Drakenfall said:
Maybe now SE will launch Ginger on X8.
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No, they can't. They said once that X8's hardware is not capable of a smooth 2.3 Android... So now if they change their opinion, then everybody will laugh at them. Sad story, but com'on SE, just dig your own grave!

Asycid said:
No, they can't. They said once that X8's hardware is not capable of a smooth 2.3 Android... So now if they change their opinion, then everybody will laugh at them. Sad story, but com'on SE, just dig your own grave!
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No, People already laugh at them cuz we use Custom GingerBread and is Pretty smooth...Stock ginger from SE should be even smoother, but they just won't release it

Asycid said:
No, they can't. They said once that X8's hardware is not capable of a smooth 2.3 Android... So now if they change their opinion, then everybody will laugh at them. Sad story, but com'on SE, just dig your own grave!
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Soooo not true!!! Look at the members here at XDA. Most of us are running 2.2 or 2.3 ROMs smoothly. SE should think more before announcing these stuff.

Maybe I'm not wrote it understandable. I mean under my writing that SE can't change their mind because they stated a thing. I know we've got nice ROMs, but SE stated that it isn't possible... now if they make a 2.3 software, they'll just make ass from their mouth and this will not be good for their prestige.
I hope it is clear now what I'm thinking about, sorry for the inconveniences.
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That reminds me a situation that was something about 50 years ago. An guy from poland told that he can build computer that is smiliar size to case. Noone belived him and he made first small computer - K202. How much of them were produced? Only one. Comunist governement in poland send police to stop production and arest him.
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I change my mind.., this is a good news.., why dont we use this news to attack sony., if they have market strategi ,then we have customer strategi too., attack them with this news link in they forums.., and they other customer with see and with complain too.
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I hope that someone can port this (Clicky) to the X8
That new phone of SE is 2.3.

i really think that SE will change her minds again...at least here in my country we see loads of X8 for sale, or with discount to buy. It's good for them if the population buy their phones but they know already that noone will buy it at the moment if no upgrade for 2.3 is available.

i think that people who really want to wait for a official 2.3 rom from SE just need to wait till that marketing campaign of new xperia line ends. After that they will update all the other phones too. But till then they know that some people will get upset and buy one of the new xperias cause it has 2.3, hd, etc.

I hope that SE bring us some updates as far as the hardwares supports, by the way, I really appreciate the custom roms from devs, and shouldn´t change to stock ones

will sony support froyobread officialy ???

sony stop support for x8 forever or what?

Officially yes, sadly or not

Who cares about sony anyway. Their support would be good, but our great devs are proving every day, that we don't need sony

Mr. Hat said:
Who cares about sony anyway. Their support would be good, but our great devs are proving every day, that we don't need sony
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don't say such things, without sony we are nothing... remember that.. dont compare sony to M$

Pff i dont need the official froyo. The froyos from our devs are a lot better even if SE will give us froyo i will stay with custom roms
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orangzeb said:
don't say such things, without sony we are nothing... remember that.. dont compare sony to M$
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why? Do you work at Sony?
Are you a Spy sent by them?

jkrauser2 said:
why? Do you work at Sony?
Are you a Spy sent by them?
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i believe that sony developers have see this forum and said "ow great, i will stop developing software for x8" or said "ow great, i will fix the cm7's problem for x8, and release for official gingerbread x8"

It is a fact, that the custom ROMs made by the devs here are a lot better in any aspect, than that of sony... I just need to look at my battery gauge... with stock 1 day (if lucky) froyobread lasted for 3 days (and was still ar 25%) So I won't return to stock even if launched .
A more up to date kernel would be appreciated though

jkrauser2 said:
why? Do you work at Sony?
Are you a Spy sent by them?
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I wish that was true...
I'm the biggest fan of Sony... on the other hand think about their products , how many good things they've given us

orangzeb said:
I wish that was true...
I'm the biggest fan of Sony... on the other hand think about their products , how many good things they've given us
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Me too, a fan of SE. I owned only SE phones my entire life..
But see they still don't want to give us the word "open source" because they keep the bootloader locked. They left X8 in the air.

custom roms are lighted versions or originals.. useless stuff is deleted.. so that's good if talking about 2.2.. but about 2.3 dev's need to deal with camera and radio problems....(about radio,never mind )

orangzeb said:
I wish that was true...
I'm the biggest fan of Sony... on the other hand think about their products , how many good things they've given us
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Personally I wonder what they've done for us that would actually persuade me to go over to their side. Almost every single one of their products have disappointed me in one way or another . And that's why I'm convinced that I'll never buy their products again. This X8 is the last product I'll ever buy from them. At least I've still got XDA .

spyder12345 said:
Personally I wonder what they've done for us that would actually persuade me to go over to their side. Almost every single one of their products have disappointed me in one way or another . And that's why I'm convinced that I'll never buy their products again. This X8 is the last product I'll ever buy from them. At least I've still got XDA .
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+1 mate, look at my signature.
but I am planning to buy Xperia ARC as my last SE phone.

well I i can see the grudge but this is policy mate, we are users, we can expect more and more from their side but see it from their perspective... They have hell of competition..
and talking about products PS3 just ****ed xbox360 in A55....
I also own a x8 and it's a bit old so i don't complaint much , p.s nice ppl like you and devs here on XDA made my days...
Maybe you didn't use Nokia / Samsung / LG Phones to test how bad they suck ! why not buy xperia RAY ? if you want everything..
Sorry I meant no offense just stating my thoughts...

orangzeb said:
well I i can see the grudge but this is policy mate, we are users, we can expect more and more from their side but see it from their perspective... They have hell of competition..
and talking about products PS3 just ****ed xbox360 in A55....
I also own a x8 and it's a bit old so i don't complaint much , p.s nice ppl like you and devs here on XDA made my days...
Maybe you didn't use Nokia / Samsung / LG Phones to test how bad they suck ! why not buy xperia RAY ? if you want everything..
Sorry I meant no offense just stating my thoughts...
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Don't even mention Samsungs android phones... I've changed to X8 after Galaxy Spica... It really is horrible as stock, but far better with custom roms, but even because of the sh*tty drivers, kernels and everything, it is bad... But id had many buttons
I'm not disappointed in X8 (with custom rom of course, the stock s*cks like hell), with froyobread it is a very nice phone

i'm using froyobread and eclair 2.1 update 1 both ,

Exactly, with custom roms, who needs sony?, theyll probably forgot about the X8 and are working on the X16, I mean I just got the phone, SE lemme use it for a whole year, support it, update it, and then Ill think about changing it, but no, everyday new sh!t comes out!!!!

I'm wondering about Adobe's declaration about full flash to AMR6 CPU's. Maybe when they'll finally release Flash to such devices as X8 or Swift, Sony may change a bit their politics. I hope so. I'm not a big fan of GB, but fully functional camera, radio and BT could give a huge boost to our Devs

jkrauser2 said:
Me too, a fan of SE. I owned only SE phones my entire life..
But see they still don't want to give us the word "open source" because they keep the bootloader locked. They left X8 in the air.
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Iam a die hard SE fan and i know they made some mistakes but new line up aint bad.i love Xperia ray

eagleeyetom said:
I'm wondering about Adobe's declaration about full flash to AMR6 CPU's. Maybe when they'll finally release Flash to such devices as X8 or Swift, Sony may change a bit their politics. I hope so. I'm not a big fan of GB, but fully functional camera, radio and BT could give a huge boost to our Devs
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I don't think it is because of that. Phone developers want to sell, that's why they release 1 update per phone, so that people keep buying the new ones

Farewell Xperia X8`

Hey guys! Merry Christmas!
Its been a full year since me and my partner here met you guys! Xperia X8 is my first android phone, At first i was contented with everything, then i wanted more. I became greedy, I sought knowledge that was never meant to be. I was defying the will of Sony Ericsson. I rooted my X8, installed my first recovery then flashed a new rom. It felt like heaven, having a better android version and theming it all i want. But not all stories go on great. I experienced bricking my phone, i panicked. I didnt know what to do, my warranty was void, then i thought "Maybe XDA Devs can help me". And it was true, i posted in the forums and got a fast reply. I was astonished by how the members here are helping each other. I got my phone working again. I am at loss for the things happening in this forum. Almost every week there come a new rom or update. I was happy, for every addition to the X8 roms here. But lately i dont feel like its the same anymore. I feel like that X8 has reached its peak, maybe its time for me to move on.
So i was thinking which phone would you prefer buying after you Xperienced android with Xperia X8.
Ive got to options. Xperia Neo V or Xperia Mini Pro
which would you prefer.
Please feel free to give your opinion.
I am very thankful for the people here, devs or not. Thank you all farewell. I will never forget this lively forum!
More power to the devs here! Specially Doxianh, Master Shpit, Froggy Furnetal and more. Rock on \m/

feb289 said:
Hey guys! Merry Christmas!
Its been a full year since me and my partner here met you guys! Xperia X8 is my first android phone, At first i was contented with everything, then i wanted more. I became greedy, I sought knowledge that was never meant to be. I was defying the will of Sony Ericsson. I rooted my X8, installed my first recovery then flashed a new rom. It felt like heaven, having a better android version and theming it all i want. But not all stories go on great. I experienced bricking my phone, i panicked. I didnt know what to do, my warranty was void, then i thought "Maybe XDA Devs can help me". And it was true, i posted in the forums and got a fast reply. I was astonished by how the members here are helping each other. I got my phone working again. I am at loss for the things happening in this forum. Almost every week there come a new rom or update. I was happy, for every addition to the X8 roms here. But lately i dont feel like its the same anymore. I feel like that X8 has reached its peak, maybe its time for me to move on.
So i was thinking which phone would you prefer buying after you Xperienced android with Xperia X8.
Ive got to options. Xperia Neo V or Xperia Mini Pro
which would you prefer.
Please feel free to give your opinion.
I am very thankful for the people here, devs or not. Thank you all farewell. I will never forget this lively forum!
More power to the devs here! Specially Doxianh, Master Shpit, Froggy Furnetal and more. Rock on \m/
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yes its been an amazing journey,
i got myself neo v already,but still my x8 takes all my attention errrrtime hehe...;D

I bought mine just ~6months ago. got damn I made a bad decition but I keep reminding myself its my first android ever. Since my contract is made for 2years I'm stuck on this phone. I was thinking of getting a transformer rather than a new phone

Well,i have the same choices in mind,Neo V or Mini Pro???Neo V has a bigger screen and front camera,and Mini pro the keyboard,its the only difference???

I will go for Neo V, much better than xperia mini pro in my opinion

Go for a Samsung guys! Why stick with Sony Ericsson?

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Go for a Samsung guys! Why stick with Sony Ericsson?
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yeah thats true, i would go for Samsung Galaxy Nexus or Samsung Galaxy SII.
But the review indicate that SII is better, however I will go for Galaxy Nexus as it is far more likely to get more android updates when compared to Galaxy SII. Google is good in giving updates for nexus phones while you can see that Samsung don't even give much updates, even for some of the good phones.

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yeah thats true, i would go for Samsung Galaxy Nexus or Samsung Galaxy SII.
But the review indicate that SII is better, however I will go for Galaxy Nexus as it is far more likely to get more android updates when compared to Galaxy SII. Google is good in giving updates for nexus phones while you can see that Samsung don't even give much updates, even for some of the good phones.
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I'm waiting for my GN too but here's what I've read as I've been following the GN forums for some time now. There are two GN builds, the yakju, which is the Google build and it is an original Nexus, and the yakjuwv build, which is Samsung's build and still hasn't got the 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 update!
HOW DARE THEY BREAK THE NEXUS LEGACY???!!!

I want a Galaxy Nexus!

im waiting for my contract to finish then i will see what phone my carrier will offer me, i hope it is a htc or some good phone

My contract ends next summer.
Then, I´ll look for a better provider (my current one still offers the X8 and doesn´t even offer the S2/Galaxy Nexus/HTC Sensation and all the other high-end devices.
I also think that my next phone will probably be a quad-core phone, I´ve read somewhere that HTC will maybe make one next year.

Chris95X8 said:
I'm waiting for my GN too but here's what I've read as I've been following the GN forums for some time now. There are two GN builds, the yakju, which is the Google build and it is an original Nexus, and the yakjuwv build, which is Samsung's build and still hasn't got the 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 update!
HOW DARE THEY BREAK THE NEXUS LEGACY???!!!
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ya i read that too. I dont know why they did that. Thats a big shame man

I hate the font on Samsung phones.
The one that's kindof italic
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Guys, if you are on a contract you can still change your phone.. You just have to use the same sim card. Most people don't change their number/operator for years so it's no big deal.. If you buy a new phone again from your operator you won't have 2 contracts, they will update your current one. It works like this in my country at least..
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I will vote for NEO V, its better than Mini Pro.
If you think that a cell phone is only a machine for you which must perform good then can go for Samsung/ Moto/LG any thing with better specs. For me a cell is much more than a machine. So I will stick to SE in-spite of their disadvantages.
Look and style also matters.

I ptefer arc S LOL...
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I would recommend you samsung galaxy Y
Believe me it is cheap and awsome
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harshitgroup said:
I would recommend you samsung galaxy Y
Believe me it is cheap and awsome
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Its good for normal everyday use....but for modifying or hardcore gamer,its bad...
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Me to wanna says good bye to my X8... Serving me for 9 months... Sold it yesterday and buying myself Nexus S

dipusen said:
I will vote for NEO V, its better than Mini Pro.
If you think that a cell phone is only a machine for you which must perform good then can go for Samsung/ Moto/LG any thing with better specs. For me a cell is much more than a machine. So I will stick to SE in-spite of their disadvantages.
Look and style also matters.
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+1 True, but i bought Xperia Mini Pro, There was a border in neo v which ruined its design, but it has the same processor of 1ghz right? But im loving my XMP Its awesome in spite of its small screen.
Cheers Everyone