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!!!!<<The Xda Search Culture>>!!!!

Hello fellows !!!!​
Here is + QUE PPC trying to give you some tools to enjoy this site even more!!!!​
Well… as you see, the forum XDA-Developers becomes even more and more bigger with every year that offers many many information! Making some posting on Off-Topic Forum I reed many people said_-_- “This is in CHAOS!!!!!” this web forum is a MAZE!!!!! And many other things that disappoint me!
But why? Because that kind of threads allows to be more chaotic the forum and so… is not in chaos just are many many… threads give and asking for info… everybody wants to be heard as usual and is natural! Obviously, and is the real truth! This becomes a little hard to find what we are looking for…
I am!!! Te ONE that begins the SIGN INFO THREAD! But nobody wants to follow the info there… (Well, many people already has his info wrote there and thanks for it…) many more people reeds my thread and thinks… OH ****!!!! Its truth…
We can get faster solutions if we all give the entire info of our devices on our signatures… but I can use that mini mini mini space to place my Thoughts! And what!!!!????? Is Fine!!! Many thoughts are good and full of knowledge phrases so… why I wouldn’t wrote my info and restore many time FIRST! Searching… then ASKING then… ANSWERING….
So the question is…. How many time can we spend on answer a question and give it on the right answer? Days???? Weeks?? For some people MINUTES OF REAL PAIN, can be released even more faster.
So we can do more to assist efficiently this kind of problems like a big City on construction becoming a Metropolis!
(I know I’m the one that blame, insult and speak too much, almost then obligates to search or READ… and I offer my apologize to everybody… Im sorry for that and for everything I said wrong… many senior ask me to help them with a guy that makes us mad! And I need sometimes Assist from others [Thanks Zabardast, Ather, Ashasaur and many many more]maybe im not the very right person to said this but I think we can reach a new SEARCH Culture before start a new thread).
So please this time use the search tab right at the upper level bar of this web site. (and so sorry my english is so bad!!! )
...To enable the advanced search tool for XDA developers...​
XDA-Developers advanced search plug-in for IE and Firefox
Thanks Noonski
Just click there and accept!!!! (see the picture)
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The tutorial!
THE FIRST SEARCH TUTORIAL TO USE THE SEARCH TAB GOOGLE ENHANCED TOOL​
(Thanks Admins this is a great IDEA)​
First of all… We can have many many doubts but some words can be used by tags… like Downgrade… QVGA… HardSPL… Wizard… “the name of the application”… “.cab” etcetera.
So lets start searching for an application maybe a skin for Audio Manager????
Lets go to the tab!
I type: Audio Manager Skins Diamond QVGA
click on the search button then it goes to GOOGLE and shows answers in XDA and in many other pages other answers.
Obviousli number 1 not wastin time...
number 2... mmm maybe
and the circule number 3 maybe...
Lets try the one that say Kidnamed ALBERT user ok? NUMBER #3 BIGGER(note that arrows points to all answers to XDA developers)
Nice work and he got a zip and a cab! good work but....
I heard (read) somebody's called Poorlyduck that creates really good work... so repeat the steps and perform the search....
I type "Poorlyduck diamond skins" and this is what i got now... I already read before on the hacking and development but never see his thread and now i have a beautyfull skins!!!!
CONTINUES...--->>>>>

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So this is what I have now...
We all thinks that simple explains are for idiots so dont feel like those idiots and please perform a search before starta a new thread maybe your question is already answered... and if you have a question ABOUT SEARCH!!!!! make it her we are all happy to help contributing even more.
Your friend + QUE PPC

Well,although,for some your attitude might be pinching,but I personally have always enjoyed your lightheaded humour and appreciated your way of helping the community.
YUP! no doubt,'SEARCH' is the best option,as the forum has grown enormous over the time and the 'SEARCH' option really sometimes works wonders,only if you enter or put the query correctly.It cud be very beneficial and helpful,I still,after so much extensive reading,utilize it fully,when I have to know something.
Its your Best friend,when you need one
Thats my vote for it,count it!
Read my sigy :-
"Anything you still can't cope with is,therefore,your own problem.

Hey you didn't mention the True Hardcore XDA method!
Install the Plugin in my Signature

You are RIGHT!!!!
Im so sorry Noonski I will update the first post... thanks can I use your sigy????? I remember that the first time you come here I saw your sigy and install that and men I dont kew how to use it remember? hahahaha what a n000000000000b!!!!!
How can I forgot the most important?????
Ciao and Thanks!
Edit......
Updated the first post.

Gratia ROM + Aria + HTC Sync 3.0

Can we use HTC Sync with this new rom safely?

Which ROM
kaschenberg said:
Can we use HTC Sync with this new rom safely?
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You really should be putting questions like this in the appropriate Thread, not create a new Thread. If you're talking about Liberated with Froyo ROM, put the question there. Same goes for the next question you asked.

cease said:
You really should be putting questions like this in the appropriate Thread, not create a new Thread. If you're talking about Liberated with Froyo ROM, put the question there. Same goes for the next question you asked.
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It technically doesn't matter. If someone were to search the forum the result would be the same, they'd get the answer they were looking for. Ultimately, that is what a forum is for: exchange of information. As long as we can search it successfully, that is the end goal.
You're just being too damn nit picky and I don't have the patience for it!

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kaschenberg said:
It technically doesn't matter. If someone were to search the forum the result would be the same, they'd get the answer they were looking for. Ultimately, that is what a forum is for: exchange of information. As long as we can search it successfully, that is the end goal.
You're just being too damn nit picky and I don't have the patience for it!
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Nit picky, patience????? I guess that means you have the patience to wait for someone to finally read your Thread (which is totally misplaced) and answer your question. Wait all you want. As of this hour, I'm the only one that has replied. And all I was trying to do is help your feeble mind get an answer to your stupid question. EXCUSE ME for trying to help. Oh by the way, people usually search THREADs, not the whole damn site, DUDE! Oh BTW, you never mentioned which ROM you were asking about since you didn't add the question in any particula thread. Did you expect people to answer your question for all ROMS in the ARIA secdtion? DUH!

kaschenberg said:
It technically doesn't matter. If someone were to search the forum the result would be the same, they'd get the answer they were looking for. Ultimately, that is what a forum is for: exchange of information. As long as we can search it successfully, that is the end goal.
You're just being too damn nit picky and I don't have the patience for it!
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Post in the proper thread. It's that friggin simple.

cease said:
Nit picky, patience????? I guess that means you have the patience to wait for someone to finally read your Thread (which is totally misplaced) and answer your question. Wait all you want. As of this hour, I'm the only one that has replied. And all I was trying to do is help your feeble mind get an answer to your stupid question. EXCUSE ME for trying to help. Oh by the way, people usually search THREADs, not the whole damn site, DUDE! Oh BTW, you never mentioned which ROM you were asking about since you didn't add the question in any particula thread. Did you expect people to answer your question for all ROMS in the ARIA secdtion? DUH!
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Oh by the way, people usually search THREADs,
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Well, I guess I'm indifferent that I usually search phone device sections, or a sub-section of the device (development, general, etc). In this case, my question fits perfectly where I'd be able to find it!
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Oh BTW, you never mentioned which ROM you were asking about since you didn't add the question in any particula thread.
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I did ask which ROM, the subject clearly states the Gratia ROM - there's only one in existence!
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Did you expect people to answer your question for all ROMS in the ARIA secdtion?
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Why not? I actually already found my answer though! Thanks for the help DUDE!
And, I don't post in the General section because most of the dimwits in the GENERAL section have not a friggen clue what they're talking about. 95% of them probably don't even know about the Gratia ROM being ported to our device.

I stand corrected on the ROM question; you did state it, my mistake.
Still not sure why you didn't post your question in the Gratia Thread that was already started; namely: "HTC Sense UI Froyo ROM for HTC Aria aka Liberty aka Gratia"; fits beautifully there. And, I was really only trying to help you get an answer quicker; no nit picky'ing intended.

The neverending story....

Some of you know me, some don't. I'm more active trough PM then trough posting. But this is something that is bother me for a while and I think a lot of us.
And it can't be done trough PM, believe me, i have tried....
We all (if we are fair) know that the x10 is old mobile. And the most of us don't use a mobile longer than 2 years. So why o why read I so many post of people that are complaining about a update from a dev. Let them move on and give new dev's a chance
My personal top 3 irritations!!!!!
1) if you can't do it yourself, be grateful for everything they do for us and don't complain!!!
2) if we (the users) get a new mobile, how many people still stick to the x10 treads? So why expect a lot of people that the dev's must stick to the X10 forum and development further!!!
3) if a dev don't post for a while, don't post non related post in a DEVELOPMENT TREAD and complain about a update!!!
I have talk with a lot of members trough a personal message and told them about the post they have placed. But I think its a neverending story.
I think when the Mods are more harsher and give quicker a warning and ban people, then maybe people think twice what they post. I know that the mods help xda in their spare time and do all they can. But when you make a couple statements, the word get spread and maybe maybe this will work!
thanks for listening to my complaint

Even though i bought a Galaxy Note, i still read the first page of the General/Dev/Q&A section of the X10 forum daily.
You are right about people complaining to developers for updates, but that's just the way it is. It doesn't have to disturb you, or anyone. Most people ignore these types of begging posts anyway.
My experience in forums showed that having strict moderation won't do a thing. It will only lead to more drama. I know you feel you have to do something about this, but believe me its better if you relax and don't do anything at all. The mods know their job and doing the best they can. Talking to individuals via PM's and trying to explain why they shouldn't do this and that is not only time consuming, but as you can see, it lead you being frustrated enough to start this thread.
This thread will be read by (lets say) 1000, will be replied by 10-20, some may agree, some may not. It then will crawl it's way on the bottom of the page until a similar thread pops up. (There, just saved you some time )
Bottom line is, it's the interwebz. Don't get too attached.

But he is right though
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RANT AHEAD!
Unfortunately, you are right. People feel its a right they possess to get the developer to work non stop for them. Things in the x10 forums are still relatively mild though... In the atrix forum, the CM7 thread had to be closed for a period of time due to people complaining and demanding for fixes. And the "thx" posts. Here's a classic example
sx4 said:
all i want to know when moto atrix is getting ics.i also have sgs captivate and it is running on ics port and woking very well.so i also want to have ics on this phone also.pls do it quickly
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I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.

matthew5025 said:
RANT AHEAD!
I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.
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lol, before this thread gets closed i would love to point out that we have had our moments here, we can mix it with the big boys
I have given up with my classic posts of
1. use search next time
2. rule number 1 is not to ask for an eta
3. read the OP
4. why dont you make a backup and try it yourself
its just not worth the ware and tear of my keyboard to make them anymore....
but, we were all noobs once, a bit of tolerance is should be given

im totally agree with you,but hey,you cant fight fire with fire,that just leads to your "never ending story"

Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.

colossus said:
Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.
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Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to

Cool story bro

-PiLoT- said:
Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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You harsh, Nah. (I do however get the feeling it was you that closed my first thread posted here.) But having an Avatar that is a Happy Face , with a "Heidelberg Scar" doesn't really convoy a feeling of warm, fuzzy comfort to people. More like good mod / bad mod and Colossus= good mod; he even warns people in a very nice polite way. But temporarily freezing threads seems to be doing a great job of allowing the tensions to diffuse. Kudos for that.
tal333

-PiLoT- said:
Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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I actually don't think you're a harsh mod at all...
just blunt and to the point.
Also hilarious, even when it is aimed at me lol

pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!

gregbradley said:
pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!
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he is going to pop your infraction cherry

scoobysnacks said:
he is going to pop your infraction cherry
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bet he doesnt
edit
no balls

hopefully he'll be gentle

scoobysnacks said:
hopefully he'll be gentle
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not like last time....

I didn't walk right for a week

scoobysnacks said:
I didn't walk right for a week
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When i said give it to me i didnt mean that!!!!

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Frosty666 said:
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when I got my first infraction, I couldn't walk right because.... I was so upset so I wasn't paying attention to where I was going?
What did you guys think I meant? geez

This forum

i have noticed that when people ask a question you get complete morons answering like B3311,all people want is an answer to a question as we(they)are not quite clued up on the subject,so for people like the above mentioned you where once new to this too give it a rest and grow up we are not highly ntelligent as yourself,thankfully

Someone who can't read the rules (such as rule #1) is just digging themselves deeper into a hole...

Entropy512 said:
Someone who can't read the rules (such as rule #1) is just digging themselves deeper into a hole...
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at this moment in time i really dont care,if i ask a question and it maybe in the wrong place then all i ask is someone points me in the right place,is it really so hard

tonybhoy said:
at this moment in time i really dont care,if i ask a question and it maybe in the wrong place then all i ask is someone points me in the right place,is it really so hard
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Keep in mind that if every time someone pointed a newbie in the right direction, we'd do this as a full time job. Searching *IS* easy and alot of things are already documented on the forums. If you're frustrated at not being taken by the hand to find information you require, well we're frustrated at having to repeat the same thing 60 times per day to people who do not bother searching a bit for themselves.

karendar said:
Keep in mind that if every time someone pointed a newbie in the right direction, we'd do this as a full time job. Searching *IS* easy and alot of things are already documented on the forums. If you're frustrated at not being taken by the hand to find information you require, well we're frustrated at having to repeat the same thing 60 times per day to people who do not bother searching a bit for themselves.
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i just read today that ICS was coming to my s2 so was was just wondering when and if i could get it,there was no need for anyone to be a pain in the arse,SO FROM NOW ON I'LL JUST BE AN OBEDIENT WEE PUPPY

tonybhoy said:
i just read today that ICS was coming to my s2 so was was just wondering when and if i could get it,there was no need for anyone to be a pain in the arse,SO FROM NOW ON I'LL JUST BE AN OBEDIENT WEE PUPPY
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Good boy, does doggy want a bone?
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tonybhoy said:
i just read today that ICS was coming to my s2 so was was just wondering when and if i could get it,there was no need for anyone to be a pain in the arse,SO FROM NOW ON I'LL JUST BE AN OBEDIENT WEE PUPPY
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Understandable, but keep in mind you're probably the 10 billionth person to ask this in the forum either by starting a thread, hijacking another thread or by spamming it in different threads/across forums. People are getting irritable at reading these questions as noone knows when. You can just take a look at Sammobile's twitter to see if they release the ROM... There are also threads already discussing this and all signs point towards this month, no clue when.

tonybhoy said:
i just read today that ICS was coming to my s2 so was was just wondering when and if i could get it,there was no need for anyone to be a pain in the arse,SO FROM NOW ON I'LL JUST BE AN OBEDIENT WEE PUPPY
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tonybhoy said:
i just read today that ICS was coming to my s2 so was was just wondering when and if i could get it,there was no need for anyone to be a pain in the arse,SO FROM NOW ON I'LL JUST BE AN OBEDIENT WEE PUPPY
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There is never an excuse for creating a new thread when one on the same topic exists on the first page of a forum - in this case there are almost always 2-3 ICS threads on the first page of General.

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That refers to this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527394
Well. Another useless thread.:thumbup:
Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9100 avec Tapatalk

Come on guys. Singling out a member and belittling them is not good. How about everyone just leaves this thread alone until it gets closed.
If anyone has a real issue with another member they should either report the posts in question or take it private.
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Archer said:
Come on guys. Singling out a member and belittling them is not good. How about everyone just leaves this thread alone until it gets closed.
If anyone has a real issue with another member they should either report the posts in question or take it private.
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This,
Thread closed.

Some of the instructions

On here are about as clear as mud.
I can say thanks for the hard work you guys put in but you really need to stop assuming that everyone is programing at degree level.
After 4 broken mouse a broken cup and 4 sleepless nights I'm giving up trying to root the wildfire..
I don't even want the thing in this house anymore!

That's funny I followed them twice with no complications at all and I knew nothing about Android and have basic computer skills, don't blame the guides here for your own incompetence. Those guides have helped hundreds/thousands of people to gain root, if you're having problems why not ask like everyone else does, though I doubt you'll get much help now.
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Maybe you just don't have enough patience and willingness to put time and effort into your phone. I rooted my wildfire the second day I got it, no problems at all.
PS: epic ragequit bro. A broken mouse and a mug. Over an android phone.
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When I rooted mine I had zero knowlege of Android past "this app looks neat" and I did it in an hour or two (didn't get much sleep that night. too much new stuff to install)
But seriously, if you just use a third party tool like Revolutonary, it's as easy as pie.
Download tool->plugin phone->install drivers (if necesary)->run tool->follow simple onscreen instructions
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I just think folk could be a bit clearer at times and then when your not having success further in the post someone chimes in with another 'even easier' solution lol, well so they say so your away again and suprise it doesn't work or something isn't clear so you go back and aw well the loop continues until you litteraly break!
I give up the phones old hat now anyway!

Relax A Minute!
@Tevion74
I can understand where you are coming from, before I bought my Wildfire I had never even used any PC Linux Distros (distributions) and had a lot of reading up to do, but the main thing I had to remember is this:
KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON LEARNING
whenever I had a problem rooting or now when I am trying to do something with my wildfire - I will not just dive straight in, research what you want to know IN DETAIL
and then if I am still in doubt, I will ask one of the great devs on here, such as Scratch0805, Heavy_Metal_Man, Sympnotic and Arco68 and Hacktrix2006 - but there as so many that I can not name all the people that have helped our friend Willy Wildfire progress to where its at!
My point is, dont just try and do it if you can't, RESEARCH, and if need be - ask for help.
There is always people on XDA willing to give help to those that ask and don't tant.

Dev? Me? Far from it mate, I have no knowledge of Linux based systems at all, well except what I've learnt here, it has all come from reading guides on xda.
I struggle to understand when erwinp,sympnotic start talking in the cm9 thread.
I think of myself more an advanced user who's not afraid to have a go.
To the op if you post your problem in the thread of the guide your trying to follow we'll try to help you and figure out where your going wrong.
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who me??
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and then if I am still in doubt, I will ask one of the great devs on here, such as Scratch0805, Heavy_Metal_Man, Sympnotic and Arco68 and Hacktrix2006 - but there as so many that I can not name all the people that have helped our friend Willy Wildfire progress to where its at!
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who me not quite, but
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lol thanks for the kind words

You just need to understand that this is a forum. If a member of a forum has a problem, he can post about it and other members can help him solve it. That's how forums work
I'm 100% sure if you posted about your issue in the relevant thread, you would've gotten a solution in 2 hours, if not less.

nejc121 said:
You just need to understand that this is a forum. If a member of a forum has a problem, he can post about it and other members can help him solve it. That's how forums work
I'm 100% sure if you posted about your issue in the relevant thread, you would've gotten a solution in 2 hours, if not less.
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agreed. im sorry if my reply seems harsh (my hasty responses can be) it just frustrates me when people come with grievances and seem to have not asked for help on the matter. if you had asked for help, read the threads and still couldnt get the help you wanted then i would understand. (we have all been there before). our members try there best when righting guides to make them as user friendly as possible. we all need to start somewhere and alot of us come here with little or no knowledge of linux or android. if we can do it you can do it. these things just take time and paitence.

Tevion74 said:
I came on here thanking you guys for your efforts in my first post but making a valid point I feel, then I get some numpty calling me childish and now I have someone saying I started calling others childish...
Pmpl away n boil yer heid!
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Look ya muppet, if you read the guides as carefully as you read my posts I'm not surprised you can't get root. Me and you both seem to have a bit of an attitude so let's just leave it.
Yes we kind of clashed the first couple of posts I get that and offer my apologies, it just p's me off when people throw a fit and blame others because its themselves that can't follow a simple step by step guide correctly. This forum is what it is because of people asking questions and others answering them. I'm offering to help you as that's why we're here and I know other people will too so just chill out, Buy yourself a new mug then have a cuppa tea n we'll try to start again and get you up n running!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

I purchased my wildfire in South Africa and to gain root i couldnt use the regular way, i researched day and night, by the way this is my first android phone, i knew nothing what so ever about what i was doing but because i just applied myself into the task, the day i decided to finally root, it took me less than an hour. but now im fairly competent in fixing this and that on a rom, so shoot your questions, we will answer..........this is XDA, we can do anything.

Ok thread cleaned and closed.
To make things clear here.
XDA is a developer forum and not everyone's personal tech support.
Mostly everyone in here tries and reads the guides and the wealth of information included for their own benefit.
If you dont like the current guides then by all means make your own and offer something back to the community.