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Ok so I have been searching the forums for a few days now and have yet to find the answer to my question. So please don't bash me for not using the search function cuz I did. There is a good chance that my question has already been answered and if it has please direct me to the proper thread. Otherwise my issue is that my epic is rooted as of a few days ago cuz I moved into an apartment and I don't have any Internet yet. Not for a few weeks, but I am using the android wifi tether app. That's working good for me except I am not getting any 4g speed through it. If I'm lucky i will get maybe 1 to 1.5 Mbps but most of the time less than 1 mbps. Does anyone know if the wifi App supports wimax speeds or not. Yes I have 4g coverage in my area. Where I am sitting right now on my phone speed test results are above 3.5 to 4 mbps. But while using my iPad (which I am using to write this) via wifi tether app speed tests are dreadfully low. Same with all other devices I have tried connecting like my xbox or laptop. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Is that the results withe 4g on? 3-4mbs? I get that with 3g untethered 4g untethered is around 8mbs. Have you tried testing it in another area? You might just be in a 4g deadspot. With wifi tether I get 3-4mbs on 4g. I can't really tell you where to go for info but those numbers sound more like 3g to me.
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Yes that is with 4g on. Where my phone is this very second. I have 2 bars of 4g signal. And it's working fine for me. Sitting side by side with 4g activated and wifi tethering on. My phone will get 4mbps and iPad will get 1.5mbps. From the same server on speediest.net. And I run the tests at separate times so they don't conflict for bandwidth.
Update: just ran test again.
iPad - 350ms ping 1.63mbps download .86mbps upload
Phone - 122ms ping 3.96mbps download 1.2mbps upload
This is a known issue..it happens in android-wifi-tether and mobile-ap as well..its definitely using the 4g connection and wifi should be capable of transmitting more..I mean even the lowest is capable of 11mbps..but N should be a lot higher.
As far as I know there is no solution yet...the EVO had the same issue at one point but it was fixed I hear..
Maybe it has something to do with the settings on your phone. I noticed with mine that my speed would just climb and climb then suddenly just drop at around 8. It wouldn't be a slow climb either it's like it's actually being throttled somehow. Try clearing the cache or something, but for some reason those number just don't sound right to me.
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Any idea how or what fixed it?
Just factory reset my phone last night.. And as for the numbers.. I know right.. Something isn't working here..
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In their case it had to do with a routing table..but that routing table was for HTC devices so its not related to ours...
Both Mobile-AP and Android-Wifi-Tether experience the same issue as well :/..I do not think its wifi related either..it must be something in between the software and the sending to wifi.
Reason I say this is if you try the device with 4g on 1 bar, then 4g on 2 bars, then 4g on 3 bars on both the device and on phone you will see the speeds vary..example:
1 bar
phone: 4mbps/1mbps
laptop: 0.5mbps/0.03mbs
2bars
phone: 7mpbs/1mbps
laptop: 2mbps/1mbps
If it was the wifi speed, then the speed would not have dropped so much.. something in between is effecting it
Oh.. That makes sense. It's just too bad though. Thanks for helping me understand.
Probably the way the wifi and 4g radios are set up and how they interact with each other, maybe 4g has more priority than wifi. I'm just guessing though. I don't know much
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Just FYI I too was getting slow speeds but with Sprints hotspot that I was paying $30 a month for. Needless to say I cancel the feature and will seek rooting my phone and add the free tethering, casue at those speeds it isnt worth it.
Sounds like the problem you are having might be caused by something that is the result of 4G and Wifi frequencies being the similar. If you are using both frequencies in a close proximity such as a room or house the frequencies have a high likeliness of causing interferences by reflecting off each other. A way to test this would be to compare wirless tethered speeds to wired ones on the same device.... Hope this helps.
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Sounds like the problem you are having might be caused by something that is the result of 4G and Wifi frequencies being the similar. If you are using both frequencies in a close proximity such as a room or house the frequencies have a high likeliness of causing interferences by reflecting off each other. A way to test this would be to compare wirless tethered speeds to wired ones on the same device.... Hope this helps.
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Thing is its getting full speed on the device...at the time its using wimax..so wimax is not having the issue..not to mention..there is a relation to the wimax bars and the wimax speed which is strange...
In the event that anyone else is in the same boat, I thought I'd share my experience with the Acer Iconia tablet in conjunction with my CM7 Evo. In a word: awesomefulness.
There's no wifi at work (don't judge), so I've pressed my Evo's wifi hotspot capability into action, and I really couldn't be happier. I'll probably die of some sort of radiation poisoning, but I'm good with that. Using Touchdown for Exchange and Docs to Go, I have an ideal manager's tool.
I took a road trip to Arkansas this weekend (from the DFW area), and used the same setup while in the car (I rode in the back seat). Couldn't have worked better or smoother, really.
I've also rooted the Acer, which makes life all that much better. Looking forward to new goodies from this community. I'm available for testing pretty much anything.
Using the USB port to keep the EVO charged adds bonus points
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Using the USB port to keep the EVO charged adds bonus points
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I love that feature too..
I'm tethering my Streak to my A500 as i type this at work!! lol
Tethering it to any 4G device makes it so much better. I love being able to listen to Pandora on the fly. I also like being able to get emails, look up stuff and facebooking on the go. Oh and I was pleasantly surprised at Tmo's 4G speeds in San Antonio, My personal Cell is the MyTouch and my work is the EVO 4G... Everywhere I go its 4G this and that but I want to see verizons in San Antonio. Some people say it is getting 14mbps, WTF... Highest I have gotten on TMo is 8mbps. Highest on the EVO is 5.1mbps. Still better then some peoples DSL... YAY
Agreed on all counts. Works amazingly. The piped in 8mb connection from AT&T is working great off my Inspire.
(I'm attaching a screenshot off my Inspire because people tend to doubt AT&T is capable of this)
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(I'm attaching a screenshot off my Inspire because people tend to doubt AT&T is capable of this)
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shopped!
haha thats actually pretty decent speeds, i was getting between 5 and 8 mb/s on sprints 4G in boston with my Evo Shfit tethered to my Iconia.
using 3G on the ride to boston i was getting between <1 and 2 mb/s
as happy as i am with sprint, their data speeds aren't the best in town.
as for tethering to the Iconia, works perfectly with my Evo Shift running MikShift 1.01. my poor phone was hitting close to 120F while tethering and running GPS, a few times the charger shut down due to heat issues. (my friend was driving, used my phone as GPS)
I didn't even think about charging my G2 while using it as a hotspot...great idea and thanks!
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Was sprint version of 4g some sick joke that no one seem to get?
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blackdragon79 said:
Was sprint version of 4g some sick joke that no one seem to get?
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Huh? Do you mean the Wimax they puchased from Clearwire? It works well in my area when it's not down. About 5X faster than 3G.
I get good 4G in my area
EDIT - but don't really have a need for it
I have to agree with OP ... even when i can get 4g i don't use it b/c it's never been alot faster than 3g for me ...
I feel that when you make purchase like a cellphone you should do some research first. Especially about signal quality. Im not upset about the 2 mile radius of 4g I get in davenport, iowa. I knew it was weak. And I know that signal quality can drop alot by going inside a building or even in a car. I know from my experience that 4g in chicago and orlando has far exceeded my expectations. Either deal with it or go away. Complaints here wont make your 4g better.
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My honest opinion:
It was a bold and possibly masterful move which serves to fulfill both a short and long-term goal.
In the short-term, it allowed them to lay claim to being the first US carrier to feature "4g". In hindsight this may seem trivial, but it had the immediate impact of gaining a lot of new and upgrading subscribers locked into 2 year contracts due only to the fact that they were the only ones around with 4g, and the idea sounded intriguing to many users. They of course had to have known of wimax's poor performance compared to LTE, but a company (clearwire) had already laid some groundwork so it would allow them a window to be the only one with 4g. That, combined with my next reason, is why I think they went with wimax. A pretty bold move by only the 3rd largest wireless carrier.
The long-term goal and the possibly masterful explantion deals with, of course as we've all heard before, the possibility that Sprint may convert their iden network (which is huge) to LTE. If/when Sprint officially confirms this, it should solidify my thoery. What I have learned here is that wimax and LTE can operate simultaneously on a device. This would be an ideal setup as a user can have the best of both worlds: wimax with it's higher operating frequency has the potential to have a higher data density, where as LTE provides much better building and terrain penetration with it's lower frequency. Should Sprint in fact decide to do this, they would near instantly have the largest and possibly most reliable 4g network.
This could also possibly explain Sprint's previously sudden decision to go with wimax when it had appeared they were dead set on LTE. It seems very possible that the idea might have popped in to their head back when all this debate was happening, and after crunching the numbers decided they could afford such a longterm plan. The fruition of this down-the-road decision combined with the boost they got in the short-run from being the first 4g carrier would decisively increase both their stature an their revenue.
This is, of course, entirely speculation and conjecture. But remember that Dan Hesse is no idiot.
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Stupid double post
My 4g kills 3g. Two days ago I was downloading at just under 10000 Kbps, and I routinely get 6500-7000 outside and 2500-4500 inside buildings. This is easily 4-15x faster than the 600-800 I get on 3g. I can tether to my laptop at my house and stream Netflix without constant interruptions and buffering.
I cannot and will not complain about data speeds over 4g.
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My 4g kills 3g. Two days ago I was downloading at just under 10000 Kbps, and I routinely get 6500-7000 outside and 2500-4500 inside buildings. This is easily 4-15x faster than the 600-800 I get on 3g. I can tether to my laptop at my house and stream Netflix without constant interruptions and buffering.
I cannot and will not complain about data speeds over 4g.
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Same here. I find 3G almost unusuable since they basically launched 4G in my area the week Epic came out. 5000-8000 kbps download and a steady 1400 kbps upload speed. If you haven't had it yet then that's probably better because its worse to have it for a brief time then have to give it up
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The only thing Wimax is faster than is ATT "4G" joke but ATT is still better because it's actually 3G that you can use all the time. Tmo "4G" is faster than than wimax and Verizon is faster than any other carrier. So other than wasting a lot of money that they don't have, I don't see why Sprint kept building wimax towers after they saw how poor the frequency was. And before everyone goes bananas with "sprint has truly unlimited" blah blah blah, that's not going to work forever. Their 3G network is so far behind all the other carriers and it's not getting any better.
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Was sprint version of 4g some sick joke that no one seem to get?
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Please formulate thoughts and ideas prior to posting. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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Please formulate thoughts and ideas prior to posting. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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Let's see if Verizon and T-Mobile's speeds stay that high as more people get 4G. Sprint sold a ton of Epics and Evos...maybe I am just making excuses
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I'm wondering when does sprint 3g gets better? Someone said something will happen on October.
the service is so intermittent that when on 3g, I have to give up any kind of streaming.
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My 3G where I live has been great since I joined Sprint August of last year. I get close to 2 mbps on 3G. However in other areas, it can be a paltry 300 kbps.
I'm getting spotty service. Whenever I use the speedtest app, I get all spiky data pull.
I just want consistent download speed...
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The best answer any of us can give you is, "When you wake up one day and the service if better, mark that date - that's when it will get better."
Also, when will Sprint customers and XDA members become clairvoyant?
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October 7 is when they are announcing their plans for the network. After that, we'll have a much better idea of what will be happening with network improvements, the LightSquared LTE build-out, and hopefully WiMax.
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I'm wondering when does sprint 3g gets better? Someone said something will happen on October.
the service is so intermittent that when on 3g, I have to give up any kind of streaming.
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I'm an IT guy and any streaming of any kind is not deployed wirelessly so my advice to you as the same to my clients is do your streaming with wired internet and stop relying on a phone to complete your life
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I'm wondering when does sprint 3g gets better? Someone said something will happen on October.
the service is so intermittent that when on 3g, I have to give up any kind of streaming.
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How about first half of 2012?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/sprints-lte-build-out-already-underway-new-4g-network-to-launc/
Very excited that they may re-purpose the Nextel spectrum for LTE, since it will have much better building penetration.
I just did speed test when I am on downtown Greenville.
I cant do anything on 3g right now
the network vision will take a while to complete nationwide, however as they update the towers, 800 frequency will help with calls in your home, possibly evdo rev b could be announced in addition to lte (l-band) from lightsquared. It will not be pretty over the next year or so, hopefully with all the cuts they have made and service costs they've increased the money and deals that have been made will make for a truly different cellphone company.
Today's result... I going to try verizon PRL tomorrow
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My 3G where I live has been great since I joined Sprint August of last year. I get close to 2 mbps on 3G. However in other areas, it can be a paltry 300 kbps.
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I'd love to get 300kbps.
They will probably make it better when enough people buy that stupid ass iPhone they are going to start selling cause God forbid someone with an iPhone have ****ty service. LOL
I get better service than that in the middle of no where.
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I'm an IT guy and any streaming of any kind is not deployed wirelessly so my advice to you as the same to my clients is do your streaming with wired internet and stop relying on a phone to complete your life
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I disagree and I will tell you why that is. If I am at home and using my phone to download from the market, I am lucky if I can download a 1MB app within a 3 to 4 MINUTE time frame. Completely unacceptable when I pay $140 a month for service.
**EDIT** Here is the difference between 3g where I live in Phoenix, and the 1 tiny square block of 4g that's several miles from me. Keep in mind that according to Sprint I "live in an excellent coverage area"
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I disagree and I will tell you why that is. If I am at home and using my phone to download from the market, I am lucky if I can download a 1MB app within a 3 to 4 MINUTE time frame. Completely unacceptable when I pay $140 a month for service.
**EDIT** Here is the difference between 3g where I live in Phoenix, and the 1 tiny square block of 4g that's several miles from me. Keep in mind that according to Sprint I "live in an excellent coverage area"
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What's your point to that I'm referring to land based internet dsl,cable, fiber optic. I listen to pandora everywhere I go with no issues. my wireless in my house is only for phone and laptop. I have 3 pc's and a ps3 all wired. When I stream blu ray movies I don't let my $800 cisco wifi access point do it. I get one gigabit of bandwidth wired so that's why I do it wired.
Its gonna be a time when you don't need wires. phones are getting faster and faster
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Faster Sprint speeds may be coming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282562
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Faster Sprint speeds may be coming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282562
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I don't think the current problem with Sprint is their backbone, I think they lost tower sharing in many places due to an expired agreement with someone around March. I've had Sprint for nearly 10 years, my phones just don't have signal in many places that it used to and it hasn't gotten better 7 months later. If you have full bars, then the backbone upgrade will likely make things fly, if you have 1 bar or none, it isn't going to help you very much. I would love to know the percentage of complaints that are lack of signal based vs full bars and still slow throughput.
I'd also like to know when the new frequencies that Lightsquared has will begin to be added to the chipsets and implemented into the next gen phones 2012, 2013? Finally is anyone else curious to see what happens when I get a call and my Garmin GPS is on?
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What's your point to that I'm referring to land based internet dsl,cable, fiber optic. I listen to pandora everywhere I go with no issues. my wireless in my house is only for phone and laptop. I have 3 pc's and a ps3 all wired. When I stream blu ray movies I don't let my $800 cisco wifi access point do it. I get one gigabit of bandwidth wired so that's why I do it wired.
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I'm not an IT guy and I can tell you my $50 linksys router can stream simultaneously to a ps3 wii and 360 on seperate floors wirelessly so idk it seems like I'm definitely getting my moneys worth if you can't stream from a $800 cisco one
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I disagree and I will tell you why that is. If I am at home and using my phone to download from the market, I am lucky if I can download a 1MB app within a 3 to 4 MINUTE time frame. Completely unacceptable when I pay $140 a month for service.
**EDIT** Here is the difference between 3g where I live in Phoenix, and the 1 tiny square block of 4g that's several miles from me. Keep in mind that according to Sprint I "live in an excellent coverage area"
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Where's this block of 4g at?
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After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I've been less than a mile from a tower and have my connection suck. In a open air environment to.
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I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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"Sprint - to run at full speed"
How ironic lol
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If verizon wasn't so damn expensive I would go there. I think sprint good prices and plan is the reason they won't up the speed of there network. Its not like sprint don't have the technology to do so.
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My speeds depend on which tower I'm connected to. The one on the main road has good signal but crappy speeds, and the tower at work is 1-2 bars but steady 2 mbps. I also work in the boonies and there are probably only 5 people connected to it.
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After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Sprint claims they don't cap under any circumstances. I think the problem is that Sprint simply doesn't know how to maintain their network well enough to keep up with the demand.
I've whined about this endlessly but I'll give a little example of what I'm talking about. My wife and I drove back to our apartment in the city from upstate NY this morning. We had Spotify going the entire time and at no point did we have any skips or gaps in songs during playback. As soon as we got in our neighborhood, however, the song we were listening to cut began getting choppy before eventually cutting out completely. In the time it took us to find a parking spot - about 5 or so minutes - the song cut out for about 4:50 before coming back with a choppy signal. Sprint has told me a few dozen times that there's a problem with a tower in this neighborhood that somehow never gets fixed. Let's face it, if Sprint can't get their network working reliably in NYC, what does that say about their competence?
The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
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The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
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This exactly.
Now they are, unfortunately for us it's going to take a little to see the results.
The mere insinuation that Sprint would be slow [in some areas as slow at 50k] on purpose is...well... I'll be nice and say it isn't smart.
I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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not sure if this is there intention per se but there's certainly some truth to it. I've got friends who have AT&T iPhones and they routinely go over 5 gigs of data in a month with streaming and whatnot. I've never cracked 600 megs with my Epic because the data speeds are too slow - why would I try to download several gigabytes of data when my downstream tops out a .30 Mbps? when I can get on 4G it's great but it usually knocks me off intermittently until I just give up and switch back to 3G.
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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I saw ~20 people in the Sprint store this weekend just for the Iphone.
So i guess it not just my crapy little town
If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
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I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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Good idea - sue them for all they're worth. Then they go bankrupt, and we're all left with Verizon, AT&T or T mobile (or crappy prepaid, which typically piggy backs on the major carrier's networks...)
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sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
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sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
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Get a T-Mobile vibrant then unlock it and put in an att sim card. Tell att you want the $15 unlimited data plan for quick messaging phones and give them your imei. If they ask what your phone is tell them it's just an old samsung tmobile phone and mention nothing about android or the real name of the phone, Enjoy.
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If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
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I'm sure everything you are saying is true. The problem is that Sprint claims they don't limit bandwidth or throttle at all. And it's the line of bulls--t from Sprint that angers me more than their pathetically slow service. That they can't just come forward and speak the truth rather than trying to lure customers in with false promises is a deceptive business practice.
It should be class action for all not just iPhone ppl on sprint.
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