Thank you mods. According to JT now he no longer be contributing to this site due to your ****ty job. We lost one if the best developers.
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Where is he going
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Where did you hear that? If it's true, then that's pretty depressing. I hope he changes his mind eventually.
I don't blame him for leaving. But it does kinda suck.
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He'll continue to update @rootzwiki
I figured he would. That's gonna be the place to go if things don't change around here. He isn't the first to go and I say he won't be the last either.
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Yes, the mods should work to clean up some of the asinine and obnoxious posts on here, such as this thread's OP. Too bad adults have to be monitored like children
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Yes, the mods should work to clean up some of the asinine and obnoxious posts on here, such as this thread's OP. Too bad adults have to be monitored like children
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Zinger. Just reporting what I saw on twitter. Back to your moms basement
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I don't get what the whole drama is about. I saw adrynalyn's letter although it really didn't explain what exactly happened at xda and why he was banned and why other developers are leaving too. It seems like there is a massive exodus of developers but I really don't know why or what happened. There is drama here definitely but not much more than I've seen at other forums although xda has gotten huge. Oh, well... I really don't care what forum I go to. I don't get too involved.
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Damn. Didnt know Adrynalyn had got banned. That's pretty messed up. As for the exodus I have noticed it too. There almost no development going on in the Mesmerize development section. All of them have went to Rootzwiki. I haven't even seen them post in other threads or anything. So whatever has happened its enough to piss them all off. I wouldn't mind knowing what happened myself but oh well. Maybe I don't need too.
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What exactly are you talking about? What lack of moderation have you seen? Maybe instead of posting a complaint thread you could actually bring something to my attention and it can get dealt with. I moderate 3 forums here at XDA and don't see EVERYTHING. Seriously, we have a report post button for a reason...
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What exactly are you talking about? What lack of moderation have you seen? Maybe instead of posting a complaint thread you could actually bring something to my attention and it can get dealt with. I moderate 3 forums here at XDA and don't see EVERYTHING. Seriously, we have a report post button for a reason...
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first, I like how you cleaned this place up from what it was, and I have not seen anything singling you out. I follow a lot of devs on twitter.. And from what I gather, most of the frustration and animosity from the devs is toward the community itself. And what is toward the mods, it seems more the lack of numbers. another thing that I think bugs the devs is xda's add revenue not being put toward the community or t.the devs enough.. What it boils down to is
The feeling of appreciation, they all do this expecting nothing. So your gonna be on thin ice from the get go.. Devs don't need XDA at all, not 1 bit.. But you do need them. Xda needs to kiss the devs asses and make them feel like royalty, weather you like it or not, that's the only thing that will keep the devs here
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first, I like how you cleaned this place up from what it was, and I have not seen anything singling you out. I follow a lot of devs on twitter.. And from what I gather, most of the frustration and animosity from the devs is toward the community itself. And what is toward the mods, it seems more the lack of numbers. another thing that I think bugs the devs is xda's add revenue not being put toward the community or t.the devs enough.. What it boils down to is
The feeling of appreciation, they all do this expecting nothing. So your gonna be on thin ice from the get go.. Devs don't need XDA at all, not 1 bit.. But you do need them. Xda needs to kiss the devs asses and make them feel like royalty, weather you like it or not, that's the only thing that will keep the devs here
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No, it wont. These forums are very poorly moderated, I think the mods expect too much from people as far as reporting goes. Threads are made in the wrong section all of the time and dont get moved for days sometimes a week+ Some threads need to be cleaned of non contributing, repetitive crap. The list is longer than I care to sit here and type out. In the end, the lack of moderation and the bickering/immaturity that stems from every side of the table is going to do this forum in. It's not the first time and it wont be the last time. This site got too popular and too many people that have no desire to learn come here expecting to be spoon fed information. Anyways, it's sad to see that it had to come to this. Personally I think whatever action is taken might just be too late unless someone proactively tried to mend the situation from all angles.
I'd like to thanks the mods for their service to the community. You guys don't get paid to do this stuff, so we appreciate it. As for the developers, it's obvious that we all should have the utmost respect and thankfulness for all of them, as they contribute to the functionality and usability of our phones and expect nothing in return. The only thing that really, really hacks me is when people expect nice little packages to be delivered to their phone, (bug-free) and become downright donkey holes when they are asked to learn something themselves. XDA is a learning and collaboration portal, and those who demand something for nothing immediately give the lot of us a bad name. Keep up the good work mods and devs.
Thanks bro. Much appreciated. We DON'T get paid to do this, we are all here on a volunteer basis.
People have forgotten what XDA is truly about...DEVELOPMENT and COLLABORATION between users who want to get the most out of their devices, not a place to come and make your phone 1337.
But alas, all this will turn into is a flame war, so hey, hers some moderation since I apparently don't do my job. /s
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Too much drama on XDA. Again. What in the world is going on? Is someone accusing Master of stealing or hijacking the Sense port? Was anyone else even working on it? I'm personally not a huge fan of Master, but does he really need to be attacked like this? Was he really doing anything unethical?
My impression is that the Sense port was dropped by the original team for reasons I don't yet know, and that Master recently picked it up to work on it. Is that wrong? Is the problem that he had a donation link for it?
I don't want any flame wars or put downs in this thread, but can we have an open discussion about what went wrong here? Can we at least get an understanding of the facts, preferably from people who have first-hand knowledge?
Trouble does seem to follow him, but did this deserve a thread? You know how it's going to turn out. Why contribute to the drama?
well i was just thinking if someone posted a rom in general, which is general discussion about our phone. It's amazing how sense was on it's way to being something good on the vibrant and now we have all the bickering... it's almost as if they don't know how to fix it so they started an argument which makes an excuse not to go through with making it a working rom. I hope they get through this and bring it to fully working.. i would love sense on my vibrant! pleeeease
I have always been troubled by how the word "dev" is thrown around here by fanboys. I remember (a long while back) thinking it odd how Master would release ROMs with Eugene's old kernels that fixed many issues, and how such threads would be flooded with praise for the Master "dev" but no mention of the actual "dev" who did more than just change images. I think there should be stricter guidelines tracking who does what and what constitutes a so-called dev. Between crap like this thread and the idiocy of the average poster, I am completely disillusioned with xda. Ban me. Peace.
Chalup thank you! I agree with you completly, axura in my eyes is all but a themed rom, tweaked by the devs. The new guys want a good looking rom obviously they'll go to it. Making it grow faster because of the new users.
I didn't follwed up on the sense port, didn't see much progress back then and not now. So I wouldnt know of the drama that accured. Nevertheless master.should get credit. He took an abandon project to try and built it. He may be progressing, he maynot. Either way the vibrant will be old news in next year. So leave/let him do his thing, "theming" that is.
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ok everyone STFU and QQ
You want sense?
here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827745
Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't master part of the Sense dev team to begin with?
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I have always been troubled by how the word "dev" is thrown around here by fanboys. I remember (a long while back) thinking it odd how Master would release ROMs with Eugene's old kernels that fixed many issues, and how such threads would be flooded with praise for the Master "dev" but no mention of the actual "dev" who did more than just change images. I think there should be stricter guidelines tracking who does what and what constitutes a so-called dev. Between crap like this thread and the idiocy of the average poster, I am completely disillusioned with xda. Ban me. Peace.
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Why is that any of our business? I've never seen Eugene complain, and I'm guessing that if Eugene was angry, he dealt with it his way. I'm just fascinated by the emergence of "factions" and "non-devs."
Do we really have to split off into teams and print up t-shirts to declare that we're "Team EB" or "Team Whiskey"? Or create "official" designations for "devs" and "non-devs"? What has Master ever done to you?
Listen, I've heard/read/seen the rumors/accusations against Master. And so what? In the end, he puts out software that many people really, really like. If I have a beef with him, I would think the most I should do is just not flash his ROMs or not interact with him on XDA.
But what's the point of calling him out? He's still contributing to the community. He's still "developing" or making stuff for people's phones, so who am I and who are you to raise a ruckus?
Ohh this is going to get good, who needs reality tv when you got this, let me go make some popcorn, brb!
Here's my two cents on the issue.
I'm not privvy to all the "behind-the-scenes" info, but I have seen some crap in my time here on XDA, which has solely been in the EPIC community.
Not relevant in all cases, but for instance when BThomas was still kickin' around with Viper, he almost threw in the towel on numerous occasions after anonymous dev\mods with influence or power got butt-hurt and tried to get his work banned. That kind of crap is no doubt one reason why some devs have disappeared, not to mention whatever happened with some of the ACS devs.
No doubt people get all crazed with their interwebz power, get jealous, and try to throw some weight around. Maybe that works in the workforce when people get a paycheck, but the last thing someone wants is for morons to start complaining about how your volunteered time is hurting their ego.
...maybe we need to front the $$$ for a whaaambulance, might clean few things up around here.
I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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Its not for a thanks, its for credit.
And a "thanks" is the least you can do to give back.
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I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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To be sure, for every one of us that supports by money or time, there are those that choose to piss and moan.
But as was said above, being butt-hurt has little to do with receiving a thanks but the opposite when a thanks is deserved...and also going to silly measures to satisfy your jealousy/ego.
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thanks to the name of the phone all news regarding it is instantly over-sensationalized..
EPIC dev fallout sounds pretty.. uh.. epic
Yeah, it is rather punny =D
Nothing against you MeetFace.. But don't you think we have enough threads about devs. It seems like every week after one falls off the frontpage a new one is started. Adding another one in the General section isn't going to do anything but make more people coming to this forum just move else where. If the Devs get into it with each other we should let them sort it out and not get involved. Besides the Evo section has always been worse than ours..
If had noticed/felt that I was being redundant or "preaching to the choir", I would withheld my remarks.
I don't check the forums as often as I used to, and I check the general section even less, so forgive my lack of noticing what apparently may be a problem. I was merely responding to an issue that was raised in a closed thread, felt like there were some words that needed to be said.
If you think my comments are wrong or misplaced...then you are naive, because I speak of real situations. I won't go into any more detail, but I will say this:
If you can't man up an be civilized, then you should keep your mouth shut, and regardless of your contributions, whether they be developing or support, you are doing a major disservice to a "community" when you try to tear people down in public, instead of trying to build them up.
It's really simple. Adhere to the GPL and the XDA rules against advertising other sites that require registration to download custom ROMS.
A "donation" to obtain access to GPL or similarly licensed code violates the GPL (or the respective license) and will get your ass sued by the FSF. Thusly, linking to a site that violates the law will land XDA in trouble.
RMS would **** bricks over what some of the devs here have done.
I get that, and for those situations, it overrides anything I said here in this thread.
But that's not the whole story in all situations...thus the thread I created.
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I get that, and for those situations, it overrides anything I said here in this thread.
But that's not the whole story in all situations...thus the thread I created.
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Sorry, I wasn't replying to you. I just want to make it clear the reason why the mods/XDA has reacted to some devs the way they have. It's to cover their own asses from legal repercussions.
No hard feelings, just wanted to clarify that I wasn't implying the above was the case with those types of issues. Didn't mean to sound abrasive, gotta love voice-less text =]
But again, I do agree with, people should follow the rules, people should not take things so personally, and in and open source environment, people should get so selfish.
I fully agree with you. And the loss of emotion and everything else by using text-only is something that completely enrages me when I want to actually talk to my friends who live half-way around the world but they refuse to use webcams or even voice. I've just resorted to telling them to screw off unless they call or video-call me. Far too much meaning is lost otherwise and only causes trouble.
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You're right. It is some of the members too. The members that bash people because they ask a noob question and feel that they are so far above the person that they have to put them down. There's bullying in this forum and to the point where I've almost stepped in and said something in defense of the person. That kind of **** has no place here, just like the other crap doesnt either.
You'll like this:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/02/70179
I've read the actual study years back in one of my business classes back at the old University.
This is why you can't take things personally all the time...will save you some butt-hurt =D
I don't really have anything to add to this conversation, but I just wanted to say that "butt-hurt" is my new favorite internet phrase. That is all.
MeetFace said:
You'll like this:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/02/70179
I've read the actual study years back in one of my business classes back at the old University.
This is why you can't take things personally all the time...will save you some butt-hurt =D
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Or add in a " " and make someones day! Lol
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I don't really have anything to add to this conversation, but I just wanted to say that "butt-hurt" is my new favorite internet phrase. That is all.
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I'll have to admit, your appreciation of my usage of the phrase afforded me not a few audibly deep belly chuckles.
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I started a thread about this a while ago. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002595
I have a slightly different take on all of this. While I'm glad that most of today's issues are resolved these problems will arise again. This whole thing went down today because someone complained about pieces and parts of a developers ROM. Then I got dragged into this because I use the Bonsai kernel that I made NO changes to. Apparently all I had to do was post a link to the Bonsai source code and the problem went away. There are not a lot of us left here in the Epic forums for various and often times preventable reasons.
There is to much inconsistency with how these forums are moderated. Is impaler gone now? I mean it's like one day everything is ok and then the next day it's a problem. In all fairness to the mods they are over worked and simply not paid. Perhaps, xda should think about paying these guys a little something for their efforts. Perhaps XDA is growing to fast for it's own good. I mean in my opinion is quality over quantity.
My other issue is the in-fighting. We have people here that live to make drama and start flame wars. I'm not singling anyone out on this but it happens and a lot more often in the past few weeks. I don't know why we don't focus more on purging the forums of problem people rather then productive developers that choose to venture away from xda. We also need to be very careful about publicly accusing people of being in violation of a GPL. Falsely accusing someone of something should not be taken lightly. All it serves to do is misinform the community and cause confusion for the users as to what really happened. Not to mention the damage done to someones reputation.
XDA would be nothing without the developers and users that make it up. I realize that XDA makes the rules and are well within their rights to do so. But sometimes some of these rules need to be revisited from time to time to make sure they are applicable especially when a site is growing as rapidly as XDA is.
This place used to be an escape for me. Something I enjoyed participating in but anymore it serves to cause more stress then it helps to manage. If we want this community to survive we ALL need to think about how we carry ourselves here and what kind of behavior and attitude we deem acceptable. I'm very frustrated with the direction this is all going in and I have really tried to keep us going in the right direction. We all play a part in the negativity and we ALL NEED to play a part in making things better.
For the record, I thought today was handled pretty well as far as transparency goes. So Thank You.
Threads like this need to go away. Drama explaining the drama. Wish the mods would just delete any drama threads here.
I check all over this forum for all known kinds of phones and used to be very active over in the captivate forums. And theres one difference here a lot of you guys are just rude. Its kind of making me not even want to be a part of xda anymore. Its like most of you are just here to be douchebags.
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I have to agree with you...it does appear that some people here a lot less cordial than over at the Captivate forum...if it wasn't for my 1006 with the terrible GPS I probably would have kept it and waited for the Attain.
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We are so roods! Let's come to a forum and troll a bunch of people trying to recover from bricks
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I check all over this forum for all known kinds of phones and used to be very active over in the captivate forums. And theres one difference here a lot of you guys are just rude. Its kind of making me not even want to be a part of xda anymore. Its like most of you are just here to be douchebags.
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I agree... people are attacking devs and making false accusations saying that they are full of **** just because they haven't released anything yet or that it dosent work right out of the gate. Maybe once everyone calms down and decides to be a bit patient then maybe people will be able to get some work done instead if dealing with all the whiners. I feel bad for all the devs for having to put up with it all.
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i agree, the atrix forum is filled with a bunch of kids. the captivate forum was way better =/
coming from a background of development and being involved with computers from young age and doing actual work I can easily assume that most people that have atrix are people that have decided to pay $$ for a good phone. Most of these people do not have background of normal programmers so it is understandable that they cannot comprehend how much effort goes into writing each line of code and making sure each line of code works flawlessly with the rest of the code.
I would simply suggest that if people were more patient and let people with more experience to TEST all new releases for bugs before doing it themselves we would have a much better atrix forum
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i agree, the atrix forum is filled with a bunch of kids. the captivate forum was way better =/
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I'd say most came from that area. Unfortunately, it spoiled some people due to the success devs had with that phone. Now that we're unlocked, hopefully we can get away from those dark days
Nothing of this happen if devs say something "i will release xxx on next xxx weeks", even if its a lie, or maybe "i'll not release this, period". Simple.
Forum is a community like a city, do you imagine live on a city where the govern doesn't say nothing and make what they want? Revolution like is happening on some afrika countries.
Bad compare, but true. No one is obliged to do something, but when you say in public that you are developing, you have commited to do, so people wait some ETA, status of developing etc...
I was developing some app for students around the world, but when my atrix got bricked i loose the will to do, but i had not promised to anyone or advertise to anyone.
LMAO
This forum really did turn into a flamefest in the last month or two. I've never seen a sub forum full of so much hate!!
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This forum really did turn into a flamefest in the last month or two. I've never seen a sub forum full of so much hate!!
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And everyone will loose, community will enter in a war, and motorola and others manufactures will win the right of control our lifes.
Long time lurker
As a long time lurker i have to agree, people seem to forget that people here are donating their time and skill free of charge. Some times things don't go to plan other times real life gets in the way.
The devs here deserve our support and respect. I joined just after I got my HD2 and the number of times i have been rescued from bricking my phone is beyond count. I love this forum, at the moment the atrix forum does remind me of chat avenue, any one remember that site?
i think its much nicer coming from the x10 forum o.o
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I check all over this forum for all known kinds of phones and used to be very active over in the captivate forums. And theres one difference here a lot of you guys are just rude. Its kind of making me not even want to be a part of xda anymore. Its like most of you are just here to be douchebags.
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OP I couldn't agree with you more.
We have a couple of known users here that think they are above the "XDA Community". This doesn't help when new users sign onto XDA, and think this type of behavior is the norm.
I understand that rookie mistakes can be frustrating, but were supposed to help and not put down others around here.
For anybody that started XDA before the Atrix, it's easy to tell how sour this place can get at times.
Hopefully more people stand up, and help clean up some of that "stuff" around here...
I need to agree =/.....
but I think with unlock bootloader more serious people come where to play with atrix, I will not leave xda, I'm here since 2007 soo xD
I've been pass good moments here .....found good and exelente solutions, have a few problemes with some crazy users.....eheh
Hi,
I see the odd snarky remark from the un-socialized, but what is dragging the forums down these days is short attention span and laziness. Resurrected threads, multiple topics on the same thing. It's endless.
Cheers!
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coming from a background of development and being involved with computers from young age and doing actual work I can easily assume that most people that have atrix are people that have decided to pay $$ for a good phone. Most of these people do not have background of normal programmers so it is understandable that they cannot comprehend how much effort goes into writing each line of code and making sure each line of code works flawlessly with the rest of the code.
I would simply suggest that if people were more patient and let people with more experience to TEST all new releases for bugs before doing it themselves we would have a much better atrix forum
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lol this is exactly why I didn't hop on the latest roms and mods yet (except for Pudding, which I "ate" right away!)
As a rule of thumb, I am never an early adopter.
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i think its much nicer coming from the x10 forum o.o
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This is my first android phone, and first reason to come to xda. This does seem related to restlessness of not being able to mod the phone the way other phones can be. Now that the bootloader unlock is out of the bag, I was figuring I would see less hostile members, and perhaps this will be the case when there isn't an inferiority complex about being behind other phones in development ability, i.e. CM7 with overclocked kernel combination is available and stable.
Everyone could use a j and some Bob Marley.
devbro said:
coming from a background of development and being involved with computers from young age and doing actual work I can easily assume that most people that have atrix are people that have decided to pay $$ for a good phone. Most of these people do not have background of normal programmers so it is understandable that they cannot comprehend how much effort goes into writing each line of code and making sure each line of code works flawlessly with the rest of the code.
I would simply suggest that if people were more patient and let people with more experience to TEST all new releases for bugs before doing it themselves we would have a much better atrix forum
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If "anyone" doesn't have the funds for a replacement, IMHO it's best not to test the "deep end" of the swimming pool.
Let "multiple people" confirm things first, or play it safe with "Official OTAs"...
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The Atrix forums are the worse out of the ones i've spent time in (captivate, focus, inspire and Atrix). Never have I seen so much *****ing, fighting and crying over every little thing. But im here to stay either way
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The Atrix forums was the first one I've seen on XDA, the Atrix being my first device. I didnt really think much of it, since I've seen worse forums before. But once I got a nook color and saw how peaceful that section was in comparison, I've been kinda thinking the same thing.
Many people here need to realize the value of patience, the meaning of donations, the effort of actual developers and the responsibility involved in flashing untested code. And the search button.
I've noticed in times of late, one particular user has not only spammed the forum with virtually every post they make, but they have resorted to creating spamming threads entirely. I honestly don't care what the issue is; it could be anything from gay marriage, breast cancer, diabetes, Alzheimers, etc.... I do not come to the forum to hear about anything other than Android development, particularly for the Samsung Epic. I don't care to have anything else injected in to the discussion, regardless of how passionate a contributor is about an issue, it DOES NOT BELONG ON HERE.
There are thousands, if not millions of valid causes that could be discussed by any one of us, but thankfully every other person that posts on the forum respects the fact that just because it's a good cause, one that hits particularly close to home, STILL DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY TO SPAM EVERYONE ELSE ABOUT IT.
If you want to put a line in your sig about curing your down syndrome, that's fine by me. Sigs can be disabled. However, injecting spam into your post, or making an entire thread about your spam is clearly crossing the line. Now, if your Epic contracts an STD, or cancer, or in some way causes it, that's a different story. Otherwise, go join a forum that is purpose built for such topics, or keep it to facebook, where your actual friends reside. Contributing to the Epic community, or actively using information found here, doesn't make us all friends. You're not able to come to my house and sleep on the couch, you cannot borrow my car, no I will not loan you money, and no, I honestly don't want to hear about your personal issues, or discuss them with you.
So thank you moderators out there who already understand all of this. I, and just about every other member out there thanks you for keeping the forum about the Android devices, even if at times it's about dueling cores.
And to the members who report the spam posts, thank you.
Truth, bro. I had almost lost faith in the mods here. Thanks guys
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What does this post have to do with the epic? Sounds like you are supporting a cause. You should keep that to a line in your sig, since those can be turned off.
I would rather read a million extra lines having to do with autism or supporting a family down on their luck than worthless flame bait crap like this. Grow up. There are maybe five threads a day posted here, it takes you five seconds to open one and close it. Get over yourself before all the people actually adding something to the community leave.
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What does this post have to do with the epic? Sounds like you are supporting a cause. You should keep that to a line in your sig, since those can be turned off.
I would rather read a million extra lines having to do with autism or supporting a family down on their luck than worthless flame bait crap like this. Grow up. There are maybe five threads a day posted here, it takes you five seconds to open one and close it. Get over yourself before all the people actually adding something to the community leave.
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I should google plus 1 this. I think he has something against rob who does midnight rom. I know he has a thread about autism and how we can donate phones to a project to help kids were android helpa them communicate.
Also if you don't like a thread topic then don't read it unless u are like a deer looking into headlights.
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How can you talk about contributing to the Epic community when mods are banning the actually contributors for your/others opinion.
And the so-called spammer you're talking of actually contributes to the Epic community, since he's helped us, why can't we help him with a positive cause? However if you think the spam isn't epic related, you don't know what Android Autism Awareness has done. Many who follows Randy's blog know where it has AAA started, right here in the Epic forums. Bringing followers over from the blog gaining XDA traffic which they need to make money. If it wasn't for Randy support not only making Roms, but keeping these forums as a community while dealing with his own issues this forum would be worst than it is now.
Now we lost Ecooce because a mistake a mod made which was
outright ridiculous claim she made if only she would have read and comprehended what was being said none of this would not have happened.
*shrugs*but I guess what I believe in or any other positive Epic user believes in doesn't matters because it doesn't comply with XDA rules.
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It doesn't matter who agrees with the SPAM, and I don't know who Rob is. What I do know, as do others, that the SPAM has gone overboard, and just recently it's begun to be cleaned up. And I thank the mod team for doing such. The issue was left unchecked previously, and it began to grow. The board isn't tit-for-tat, and just because you contribute, you're not entitled to use any spot you want to post that crap.
Nothing is preventing you from sending PMs, or Emails, or joining a chat server. Openly posting as the violator/s have done is against the rules, and it doesn't belong here. Not sure how many different ways someone needs to hear that it doesn't belong here before their hamster wakes up and starts spinning the little wheel upstairs and it dawns on them....."Perhaps THE Android development forum isn't the place to post my personal business after all".
I for one find it more helpful to support our troops over seas with phone donations and such. It's real, tangible support that has clear results. It's also what allows us the freedoms to sit here and disagree. I don't have to continually throw stuff like that in people's faces all the time though. There are million plus worthy causes out there to support, probably none of which aren't readily known, but it's each of our own decisions to support them, and NONE of us have the right over any other to continually push and annoy members of the forums with the one issue we find closest to our hearts. You do not further a cause by disrespecting anyone in its name. Grow up violators......you know who you are.
I'm glad you feel you contributed. Unfortunately, you're a failure. ecooce actually contributed roms, tech support, and leaked info to this community. You've done nothing but add flamebait. Congratulations.
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If you think SPAM is bad. Imagine reading about how others don't like SPAM. That's even listen less on topic dude.
Nigel Powers comes to mind "There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch".
abhaxus said:
I'm glad you feel you contributed. Unfortunately, you're a failure. ecooce actually contributed roms, tech support, and leaked info to this community. You've done nothing but add flamebait. Congratulations.
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Again there is nothing in the rules that state violations are okay as long as you contribute X or Y or Z. Contributing doesn't make you an owner, and it certainly doesn't make spam any more credible or worthwhile. This board isn't a free for all. People need to respect the other members of the forum and stop injecting the spam around every corner.
@NoSoMo
Do you have personal agenda that need to be accomplished or just generally have something against those you speak of.
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I'm going to start a thread about how I don't come here to listen to people complain about how people spam. Then someone else can start a thread about how they are sick of threads of people complaining, then we can fully complete the chicken and egg scenario.
Thank you!! Having all the garbage across the board is one of the big reasons why some of the devs left. Its the Epic forums....to talk about the Epic!!! Go to the chit chat boards to talk about other stuff.
I don't come here to listen to people complain about spam.
Just saying.
- Ron
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How can you talk about contributing to the Epic community when mods are banning the actually contributors for your/others opinion.
And the so-called spammer you're talking of actually contributes to the Epic community, since he's helped us, why can't we help him with a positive cause? However if you think the spam isn't epic related, you don't know what Android Autism Awareness has done. Many who follows Randy's blog know where it has AAA started, right here in the Epic forums. Bringing followers over from the blog gaining XDA traffic which they need to make money. If it wasn't for Randy support not only making Roms, but keeping these forums as a community while dealing with his own issues this forum would be worst than it is now.
Now we lost Ecooce because a mistake a mod made which was
outright ridiculous claim she made if only she would have read and comprehended what was being said none of this would not have happened.
*shrugs*but I guess what I believe in or any other positive Epic user believes in doesn't matters because it doesn't comply with XDA rules.
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I don't think the op understands
community, its just a "forum" to him. Maybe he's a robot?? I feel sad for him.
WHO? WHO DOESNT WANT TO WEAR THE RIBBON?
btw, im with the op.
I'd rather contribute to a good cause than just take up space.
Just saying.
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I'd rather contribute to a good cause than just take up space.
Just saying.
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hahahahahaha
Now we lost Ecooce because a mistake a mod made which was
outright ridiculous claim she made if only she would have read and comprehended what was being said none of this would not have happened.
Wait wtf did i miss ecooce is gone ...............somebody tell me or pm this some bull****
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Yes this thread is a complete contradiction to itself.
I have agreed with this op for a very long time. I just kept my mouth shut. I don't come to this forum for anything other than regarding my epic. It is bs that people are trying to bring awareness upon their own personal agendas what ever that might be that's what facebook is for. So stop exploiting this phone forum with whatever disease or self pity stories or your other sites. Truth be told this is why I HAVE NEVER FLASHED A MIDNIGHT ROM AND NEVER WILL.
Moving on to greener pastures
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See ya' on the flip side ...
Yeah, I think I may move as well but I'll keep in touch with xda. seriously, mods. This forum is for Developers, not for you to be a little ***** and think you're the king of everything.
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The f*k happened anyway?!?? I heard rumors and I'm not stateside so I don't log in as much so I really don't know what happened
Oo oo I know
This happens in every phone forum on this site. I have been on xda (as a user only) since the g1. I think it is good that the devs leave this site. Xda is only the first step for a new dev. Since the mods do not understand the term "development". Your everyday user should not be able to post in a dev thread. That is why we have a general forum. The Dev thread is for developers to talk to other developers to make a better product. It is not a place for users to complain and bad mouth developers, all that does out make them leave. Maybe one day xda will realize that.....cyanogen started on xda....he had his own site now....I wonder why.....lol
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And without developers say goodbye to your advertising sponsorship. Slippery slope guys.
Remember, this is just a Web forum, nothing more and nothing less.
Maybe a revaluation of your perceived value of importance is known order.
It's just a real shame that the best devs keep leaving, and always for similar reasons. Biting the hand that feeds is never smart.
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This happens in every phone forum on this site. I have been on xda (as a user only) since the g1. I think it is good that the devs leave this site. Xda is only the first step for a new dev. Since the mods do not understand the term "development". Your everyday user should not be able to post in a dev thread. That is why we have a general forum. The Dev thread is for developers to talk to other developers to make a better product. It is not a place for users to complain and bad mouth developers, all that does out make them leave. Maybe one day xda will realize that.....cyanogen started on xda....he had his own site now....I wonder why.....lol
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No its good for everyday people to post what they get when they flash new roms. Now bad mouthing that's a different story..
Hmmm that's ridiculous..
But i like this site..
Did people get butthurt over some ROMs not working or something? I'm confused, I would expect the devs to encourage bug testing and criticism...
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Did people get butthurt over some ROMs not working or something? I'm confused, I would expect the devs to encourage bug testing and criticism...
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I don't know exactly what happened, but it wasn't something that an average user did. Brick'd was a fun guy. One of the mods decided to close the thread for a reason that I do not know, and brick'd wanted to say goodbye.
oka1 should be the only mod for our forum, he actually gets us + hes pretty damn cool. even though i have like 70 infractions from him from a year ago haha
Judging from Br1ckd's post in Zen I think something happened to another on the DD team. My guess is it was Dan but not sure. The mod in our tablet forum can go on power trips. Because Br1ckd is a Recognized Developer he has the power to lock/unlock his own thread.
Pretty sure it was an all for 1, 1 for all type thing. He's in a better place now. So lets not mourn his loss but rejoice in his new beginning. Hey, it's almost Easter and Padre Wood is done with his sermon.
Woodrube is on point. I pulled my stuff, closed my threads, and stopped hosting on xda due to something that happened in the sgs2 forums between a trusted friend and DD member, and an overzealous, aggro moderator. As well, the same DD member has also been receiving harassing pm's that the mods didn't seem to want to help with.
I've spoken with Oka1 about my decision and the facts surrounding it, and thanked him heavily for his part in cleaning up the Vibrant forum in recent months. He really has had a big hand in bringing this particular subforum to where it is now.
I harbor no ill will towards anyone over here and I still check in from time to time. However, I also stand by those who stand by me. When my boy had enough of the BS, it was obviously time for a change, and as a new team, we showed great unity in unanimously voting to move.
Hope this sets the record a bit more straight. Feel free y'all, to pop by and say hi sometime, sit a spell, and visit some old friends, and some new ones.
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From this Moderator of the Vibrant
I Like all the guys in this forum, and this forum's Devs have been Stellar and worked together to keep things even and fair, properly giving credit to those who deserve. AS to the other forums I really do not know what happened, but I do know the SGS2 forums is a pretty tough bunch. So, it is understandable that some devs would get tired of the rowdiness..... That's unfortunate. I will strive to talk to the superiors about this incident so XDA can learn from it and make this forum a more conducive environment for all......
Thanks to all in this forum for being the good participants you are ........ ~~~ oka1
lostwhat83 said:
This happens in every phone forum on this site. I have been on xda (as a user only) since the g1. I think it is good that the devs leave this site. Xda is only the first step for a new dev. Since the mods do not understand the term "development". Your everyday user should not be able to post in a dev thread. That is why we have a general forum. The Dev thread is for developers to talk to other developers to make a better product. It is not a place for users to complain and bad mouth developers, all that does out make them leave. Maybe one day xda will realize that.....cyanogen started on xda....he had his own site now....I wonder why.....lol
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They just need to have a better "recognized developer" system. that way ONLY developers can post in dev section, and they have an available option to enable/disable posting in their thread - leave discussion threads for the general section. as long as the moderators cleaned up the general section once a day, making sure there is only one discussion thread per rom - it would be a flawless system
I think the more annoying thing is how people can theme a ROM, add a couple apks, along with some build.prop/ram tweaks, and then post it in the dev section as a new ROM. that drives me mad, and then the noobs encourage this behavior (because they dont know any better) by saying "why complain about having more options??", and by calling these members "developers" - release it under themes/apps, not development
^^the end result of this is a cluttered development section with multiple versions of the same ROM - all of them having poor explanations - so you dont know which ROMS are legit enough to monitor because they all have the same damn features listed