Hi,
I usually reinstall my HTC Hero with a different ROM every 2-3-4 weeks. Not because I enjoy it, but I experience that a newly installed ROM is quite fast, then over time, gets slower and slower and ends up being unbearably slow, kinda forcing me to reinstall.
My question is, how do I get around this? How do I prevent my Hero from being slower and slower so I can just install one ROM and stick with that?
I am quite sure that my flash has a swap (not 100% sure though, how do I check it?) and I am using a class 10 flash, so I guess it should be fast enough and not slow anyting down.
Also, I tend to think that it's a good idea to move all not so frequently used apps to SD, to free up main memory, but I am unsure if this in itself actually slows things down instead?
Any comments would be great.
/klaus
klausagnoletti said:
Hi,
I usually reinstall my HTC Hero with a different ROM every 2-3-4 weeks. Not because I enjoy it, but I experience that a newly installed ROM is quite fast, then over time, gets slower and slower and ends up being unbearably slow, kinda forcing me to reinstall.
My question is, how do I get around this? How do I prevent my Hero from being slower and slower so I can just install one ROM and stick with that?
I am quite sure that my flash has a swap (not 100% sure though, how do I check it?) and I am using a class 10 flash, so I guess it should be fast enough and not slow anyting down.
Also, I tend to think that it's a good idea to move all not so frequently used apps to SD, to free up main memory, but I am unsure if this in itself actually slows things down instead?
Any comments would be great.
/klaus
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When you run an app of SD you will be slower keep games on SD but things you need on phone
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Try rebooting your phone when it slows down
mar9118 said:
Try rebooting your phone when it slows down
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I tried that - only works very shortly, then gets back to normal.
/klaus
i installed froydvillain and this rom is so slow!, can you recommend some fast roms?
try this rom , it is so great , fast , stable , i had this proplem before i flashed this awesome rom , now my hero is faster than any time before , dont ask me how , but that is my experience
sorry for my bad english , just trying to help
try this rom < TESLARC601 > , it is so great , fast , stable , i had this proplem before i flashed this awesome rom , now my hero is faster than any time before , dont ask me how , but that is my experience
sorry for my bad english , just trying to help
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i installed froydvillain and this rom is so slow!, can you recommend some fast roms?
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The fastes ROM that i used on my hero was VillainROM 13...and damn is that fast or what...Now i use Salsa Sense 4.0 and the only problem is that it killes sometimes my SetCpu and it gets slow...
I'm now sure but i think that a 2.2 stock rocks on the hero...but elelinux has a GB rom that rocks (recommend if you like stock roms ).
PS: clock the phone @ 691 and you will get speed
klausagnoletti said:
Hi,
I usually reinstall my HTC Hero with a different ROM every 2-3-4 weeks. Not because I enjoy it, but I experience that a newly installed ROM is quite fast, then over time, gets slower and slower and ends up being unbearably slow, kinda forcing me to reinstall.
My question is, how do I get around this? How do I prevent my Hero from being slower and slower so I can just install one ROM and stick with that?
I am quite sure that my flash has a swap (not 100% sure though, how do I check it?) and I am using a class 10 flash, so I guess it should be fast enough and not slow anyting down.
Also, I tend to think that it's a good idea to move all not so frequently used apps to SD, to free up main memory, but I am unsure if this in itself actually slows things down instead?
Any comments would be great.
/klaus
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if you like games i recommend VillainROM 13...even if is a 2.1 android rom but it's fast... If you want a everyday use SalsaSense 4.0 is fun but has some bugs sometimes...
If you want stock android i recommend ele's GB ROM
I see this problem to sometimes but i noticed that the GB internal task manager killed setcpu
I have tried a few different ROM's and best one i have used is Elelinux Speedmachinev4, went to the market and downloaded Android Optimizer ToolBox, and got rid of all the apps i did not need or plan to use (you could also use Adb command line to achieve this aswell as a few other methods), and used the cyanogen setCPU to overclock my CPU to 710mhz. Also using Adavnced Task Killer set to auto kill apps every 3 hours.
And all above combined i have never had lag or slowdown or any problems what so ever.
What utility do you use to flash?
I mean, I had this problem ages ago, I was using AmonRa Recovery..the gradual slowness was becoming a problem for me as well, so I did 2 things:
1. Got myself the latest AmonRa version.
2. Got the latest Radios and Kernels.
Haven't had a problem yet..
yes,same with you,I ususall re-falsh rom again,it is best solve for the issue.
You just need a faster/better rom on your Hero. If your still having trouble I recommend Kimera Rom its stable and very fast.
I've found that certain rom's slow down faster than others, for instance I've been running OMGB for two months now with no problems. Other roms take less than a week to slow down, and lose their 'smoothness'
klausagnoletti said:
Hi,
I usually reinstall my HTC Hero with a different ROM every 2-3-4 weeks. Not because I enjoy it, but I experience that a newly installed ROM is quite fast, then over time, gets slower and slower and ends up being unbearably slow, kinda forcing me to reinstall.
My question is, how do I get around this? How do I prevent my Hero from being slower and slower so I can just install one ROM and stick with that?
I am quite sure that my flash has a swap (not 100% sure though, how do I check it?) and I am using a class 10 flash, so I guess it should be fast enough and not slow anyting down.
Also, I tend to think that it's a good idea to move all not so frequently used apps to SD, to free up main memory, but I am unsure if this in itself actually slows things down instead?
Any comments would be great.
/klaus
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When you are trying to run an app from your SD card, it takes longer time to receive data to your phone, so you are supposed to separate usual apps and games on different districts. And, installing too many unnecessary things on your phone will make your speed slower, so clean up your apps every months or even weeks is a good habit.
i never had this kind of problem,couse i change my roms almost every day
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Well i decided to make this thread has there seems to be numerous ROMs out there and they're suitable for different needs. I just wanted to know what you guys like about certain ROMs and what you think makes them the way you like it.
First ROM i used was ENERGY Mar 18th I think 23XXX for my Xperia X1
I found it to be a great Rom as my first. Except that it was too packed. Full of useless stuff that I didn't need. The ROM was fast but wasn't the most stable. Soft reseted probably once a day. Touch Flo wasn't really my favorite thing, it wasn't smooth and waste a fair amount of battery. Everything else seems to be alright.
Tried a few ROMs: x826, unOFF and Valkyrie
I didn't use this ROMs much, they seemed a bit choppy and wasn't really my taste. Valkyrie I used for a bit, no standby of death or anything and i thought it was better then ENERGY ROM.
Currently using Jack's Rom 5.4
This ROM would be my favourite overall by far. Its stable 21XXX and using Titaniums. It came with everything i needed especially the nice mapping of the XPANEL button to the menu (Of course you can do this to any ROM), but it was the first time i saw it so it was pretty cool haha. The ROM is stable as and i probably just soft reset the phone once a week just for a little new feel but its not really necessary. The phone battery can last me 3 days of usage using an hour a day for music, some web browsing and a lot messaging and a decent number of phone calls a day. The ROM is also very smooth.
Great post xxvelocityxx, but i have to say that 826X w/o sense is my personal fave. I get 2-4 days with constant texting. Also hero.
Im procastinating. Please leave me alone.
I also love
Conjy said:
826X w/o sense
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ALL of you are WRONG!
jus kiddin!
i use V-LITE Cobalt Hardcore.
I did some reading and figured it best suited my needs.
However, i'm a newbie and just got my xperia x1 a couple weeks ago.
I would like to know the pro's n cons of my rom.
Also, if there's anything else i should know, please do say.
Thankz!
I use the ROM in my sig (click it to visit the thread), and I've found it to be more stable than the stock ROM Battery lasts 2, maybe 3 days of constant SMS usage, but then again it's also a year and a half old. The only problem I have with it is the increase of storage memory and decrease of program memory. Though I'm sure Adv Config could edit those to desired values I'm just lazy
Thumb's Up for Wildchild's untamed 1.3 ROM,it proven itself to be absolute rock solid for me!
Let's put it this way, I need a phone that is reliable to me, it should wake me up in the morning!So i really can't use those overnight freezes.
I need to be able to charge the phone whenever its needed without risking any unexpected SOD's.
I need it to have a fingerfriendly OS, so i really needed a WM6.5 rom.
with Htc SenseUI! All Sense2.5 Roms and most sense2.1 Rom's caused my phone to freeze while charging overnight, or leaving WIFI connected.
Flashing Wildchilds rom whas such a relieve(Winmo6.5+Sense2.1+SE Panels+plenty of storage to add whatever you like!)
Hi there,
Currently i'm using a SD-Android of MDJ.
Because of laggy animations i would like to update my current Build.
I've read through several NAND-Threads and nearly everyone says "fast fast fast".
This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777 NAND looks very interesting, but after looking the Youtube-Video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ab0ztDxibo ) there i'm a little bit confused... The UI looks nice, but it's lagging as hell there! - OK, it's not like "Ok, i started the app, now i can make a coffee", but the animations arent smooth... There are SD-ROMS availible which are smoother!
Is this behavior normal?
Is there any fast Android ROM, SD, NAND, RAM, etc?!
The only thing i want is a Build, which is:
- nearly stable
- fast
- small (to maximise user storage, but i dont need that much, just a few apps and Mails!)
- without "Not working in this build"-Parts
Greetz and thx for helping!
Try Darkstone's SD-RAM build, it's really fast ...
I do know 2-3 SD-Roms which are very fast, but i want to get rid of WinMo, so i need another solution
SD-Roms are still "Workarounds till NAND"
Please post in the right section.
Darkstone's build seems to be the fastest at the moment, closely followed by Markinux's builds. MDJ's gingerbread builds are getting there. I find if I set the governor to OnDemand and OC to 1300MHZ, most NAND builds become as fast, if not faster than my benchmark Desire HD.
I was skeptical about NAND at first, I thought "what's the point"
BUT, all I can now is WOW! WOW!
NAND is 4 million times faster, smoother a a lot more than SD builds
matt
infernalshade said:
Hi there,
Currently i'm using a SD-Android of MDJ.
Because of laggy animations i would like to update my current Build.
I've read through several NAND-Threads and nearly everyone says "fast fast fast".
This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777 NAND looks very interesting, but after looking the Youtube-Video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ab0ztDxibo ) there i'm a little bit confused... The UI looks nice, but it's lagging as hell there! - OK, it's not like "Ok, i started the app, now i can make a coffee", but the animations arent smooth... There are SD-ROMS availible which are smoother!
Is this behavior normal?
Is there any fast Android ROM, SD, NAND, RAM, etc?!
The only thing i want is a Build, which is:
- nearly stable
- fast
- small (to maximise user storage, but i dont need that much, just a few apps and Mails!)
- without "Not working in this build"-Parts
Greetz and thx for helping!
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Joined in 2008, 269 posts, yet you clearly post a question in the developers section, ignoring the Android question section
BTW, it depends if you want a sense build, non-sense, gingerbread, desire, desireHD etc etc. Each has it's positives and negatives. The slowest of the lot are the DesireHD builds.
Thx for your answers!
Sry for wrong-Posting the Thread, well i'm a little bit tired
Well... I do not need Sense, and i do not need Gingerbread, all i want is a fast Android build
infernalshade said:
Hi there,
Currently i'm using a SD-Android of MDJ.
Because of laggy animations i would like to update my current Build.
I've read through several NAND-Threads and nearly everyone says "fast fast fast".
This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777 NAND looks very interesting, but after looking the Youtube-Video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ab0ztDxibo ) there i'm a little bit confused... The UI looks nice, but it's lagging as hell there! - OK, it's not like "Ok, i started the app, now i can make a coffee", but the animations arent smooth... There are SD-ROMS availible which are smoother!
Is this behavior normal?
Is there any fast Android ROM, SD, NAND, RAM, etc?!
The only thing i want is a Build, which is:
- nearly stable
- fast
- small (to maximise user storage, but i dont need that much, just a few apps and Mails!)
- without "Not working in this build"-Parts
Greetz and thx for helping!
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Your given example NAND is experiment, testing NAND, Can't compare to the rest.
So is there no NAND availible for daily use?
cheezusweezel said:
Try Darkstone's SD-RAM build, it's really fast ...
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I think you mean, stupid fast, I was using this before I went NAND, this was definitely faster than NAND builds.
This ROM is also stable enough for everyday use. If you are using Sd though, just install-backup-change-restore, is easy with titanium backup, just try a few ROMS until you find the one you like.
But i think NAND Roms do have a better battery life, right?
I've been using my NAND build on a regular basis since it came out. Haven't been back to WinMo since NAND was first offered. For me the fastest NAND ROMs are TyTung which I would rank as best as far as speed but its completely Stock. I've also tried cmylxgo and his is pretty speedy as time goes by...I'm actually using that one right now and its been running for 4 days with no issues. Got like 60+ apps installed and using ADW Launcher with a theme and loving this build. Might go back to Gingerbread tho after another week cause I have a problem staying on one ROM too long lol...
Haven't tried MDJ ROM but Im using his kernel and no data issues and market downloads are insane...may try his GB build out...
Also heard DarkStone build is crazy fast which is a plus too...
Have been using my HD2 1024 for past 3 days and love it. ATM have miui but its okay, dont like interface much. Tho I must say, every nand rom was laggy for me for first 5 minutes for sure. Then once you set it up, fix things up, do few restarts, the phone gets super fast. Like really fast. Unless you have ****ty laggy hd rom.
atm trying darkside rom
i am using mdj revolution hd sd version for over a month now.daily usage that is.i have a great battery life and its fast.i think its one of the best sd version.like the animations,recommend it.
Just installed darkside 5 mins ago. No lag at all so far.
:O Got rating of 4000 WTF :O
Thats on darkside nand rom
Hm...It seems everyone prefers another Build (and technique)
I've tried to setup setCPU on my current build... looks smoother till now, maybe i dont need to update that fast... maybe i'll wait for "the ultimate super fast and stable NAND ROM"
jM2.me said:
:O Got rating of 4000 WTF :O
Thats on darkside nand rom
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#1
Thats not darkside, it's Darkstone1337.
#2
The build is called SuperNAND.
#3
It's an amazing testiment to the advancement of NAND/RAM developments by Darkstone1337, but not stable enough (yet) for daily use.
#4
To the original poster [infernalshade], I would recomend reading some posts 1st
That's where you're going to find the most indepth information on what's working & what's not in a certain build. Before you post, search search seach & search again. Most times it just takes some quick skimming thru all the pages to get the jist of things.
#5
Try it out. Sometimes stuff just works better on different phones, call it 'The Ghost In The Machine" or whatever. Besides that, who cares what anyone says if it doesn't suit you and your end needs
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Happy Flashing !
infernalshade said:
Hi there,
Currently i'm using a SD-Android of MDJ.
Because of laggy animations i would like to update my current Build.
I've read through several NAND-Threads and nearly everyone says "fast fast fast".
This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777 NAND looks very interesting, but after looking the Youtube-Video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ab0ztDxibo ) there i'm a little bit confused... The UI looks nice, but it's lagging as hell there! - OK, it's not like "Ok, i started the app, now i can make a coffee", but the animations arent smooth... There are SD-ROMS availible which are smoother!
Is this behavior normal?
Is there any fast Android ROM, SD, NAND, RAM, etc?!
The only thing i want is a Build, which is:
- nearly stable
- fast
- small (to maximise user storage, but i dont need that much, just a few apps and Mails!)
- without "Not working in this build"-Parts
Greetz and thx for helping!
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Most of the ROMs I've used are faster than SD builds. The Gingerbread ROMs are fast. The Gauner DesireHD is as fast as the SD builds of the same version of Android. But it does require getting through setup and a few reboots thereafter to smooth out to WP7 smoothness. However, every DesireHD ROM I've tried boots up super slow. That is where the SD builds excel above the ROMs.
its cm7.theres no stable build for cm7. its still laggy and buggy. cm6 will be less laggy and glitchy
I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.
My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1
Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.
^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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smtom said:
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.
loonatik78 said:
Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
wildstang83 said:
Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
loonatik78 said:
I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Tzatlacael said:
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
wildstang83 said:
Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Tzatlacael said:
I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?
I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.
I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!
wildstang83 said:
[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->
I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
Sent from my Droid Inc - GingerSense style!
I haven't seen one sense rom thread that doesn't use words like fast, optimized and smooth.
However I've tried randomly some. RCmix, URDroid, mwakiousRUNNINGrom 3.0 and even the latest 6.5.x. Result?
None of them is even remotely as fast as described. Especially if I dare to install more apps than they are already installed. Ram gets eaten up. HTC widgets do their thing and eat most of it.
My only thought is that maybe the devs that state their rom is fast, stable, smooth, flying, vigorous, etc etc just installed the rom, let it settle and that's it.
They didn't try to:
- import 600 contacts
- sync with Facebook
- install facebook
- install yahoo messenger
- sync gmail and one or two more yahoo accounts
- install a few apps (color note, barcode scanner, adobe flash, maps and other utilities as such)
Doing this is a killer combo for all of the mentioned roms.
Some even don't bear with me through the whole proccess and I end up nervously installing a light cyanogen mod rom. They started freezing while receiving a call, the lockscreen sometimes took so much time to load that it passed those 30 seconds until it goes off again, an so on.
So where to now?
Without trying to do another "best rom thread" what is the fastest gingerbread sense rom for you? Please reply only if you have actually used the rom for more than 4 days and synced with facebook, 2-3 email accounts, installed some apps, etc. Bonus points for battery lasting more than one day.
I have seen exactly this problem.. It is mainly sense related.. it's not just on the HD2 either, also on phones that come with android & sense out of the box. Sense just eats a lot of memory.
I used to be a big fan of sense and tried to find a fast stable rom, used to use one made by Mdeejay but he stopped developing it.
After I switched to a CM7 rom and saw the speed of that I never looked back, so for me that is the way to go ^^
Its called ad-ver-ti-sing, where you say good things about your own product regardless of the facts.
samsamuel said:
Its called ad-ver-ti-sing, where you say good things about your own product regardless of the facts.
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Hahaha !!
I second that !!
All sense roms, use all the ram but leave you with about 60 MB (which is not enough for regular usage)
If you go to a monitoring app you'll see that the desktop (Sense Launcher) is already eating 86+ MB of your ram, despite the fact that there are other resources running in the background bracing the launcher AND taking memory .
MIUI and CM7 if you want your device to be fast.
I use Dorimanx' rom, it's the fastest thing alive.
Seriously, of all roms for the HD2 this is the fastest and most advanced one.
As for your other questions.
I use it to sync 3 gmail and 1 exchange account, i have around 100+ apps installed.
I don't have anything to do with facebook or yahoo, but do use ebuddy to chat with people on MSN.
Although i wouldn't know of any way how an app for IM'ing could possibly affect your phone's performance.
It's also a real battery saver, i guess it could run for 2 days on a single charge.
But i'm not really sure about that, usually i charge it when i go to sleep and at that point i have around 60% left.
If you want some tips about the ROM or want some troubleshooting, just contact me.
I'm always willing to bring the delight of Dorimanx to people.
I gave up on Sense too. I have been using Hyperdroid for a few months and haven't found a reason to switch to anything else for daily use.
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I used infected rom eternity for the evo 3d for almost a month, had 7 emails (2 Gmail, 2 yahoo and 3 live), facebook sync, around 45 apps and at least 2 Widgets on all screens and mine was so smoothe it made butter look like rocks lol.!
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NRG has put out a LITE version that I'm enjoying.
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I used infected rom eternity for the evo 3d for almost a month, had 7 emails (2 Gmail, 2 yahoo and 3 live), facebook sync, around 45 apps and at least 2 Widgets on all screens and mine was so smoothe it made butter look like rocks lol.!
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Evo 3D has 1GB of RAM, this is HD2.
Sir, what are you doing here?
Ok guys, let's update this thread. Yesterday after failing with most 3.5 sense roms, I started crawling the threads and searching for all of the sense gb 2.3 roms.
I left out all 3.5 roms, all of the sensation xl ones and mostly roms based of newer beasts.
I looked for as stock as possible and also narrowed it down. Then, I found out of a rom that I've never tested before. Haldric's Desire HD Rom:
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1333106
It's a 3.0 Sense Rom that has the 2.0 Unlocker (thus getting rid of that awful ring)
I tweaked it like this:
- removed about 40 mb of useless apps (laputa, widgets I never use, htc loggers and crash report senders, and so on)
- installed latest 0.1.5 kernel for marc (fantastic kernel for sense)
- installed europe gps libs from tytung
- imported my hundreds of contacts, synced with facebook, and my other two yahoo email accounts.
- installed facebook and yahoo messenger apps and configurated them accordingly
- installed apps like maps, barcode scanner, hdr camera, and more than 15 apps
- free memory after running all of these, 97 mb
And so far, it runs like it ran the first time it booted. Fast!
yeah I'm done with Sense ROMs. I was just testing them anyways.
I use the MIUI rom which is fast and better design compare to Cyanogen ROMs. Obviously Cyanogen ROMs are bit faster than MIUI but I love MIUI's UI.
I don't think I'm switching to any other ROM as of right now
hehehehe, best (most honest) thread title i have seen in the last couple of months right in you face baby
well, i am away from sense roms, but everytime i see a sense rom titled "fast, smooth,...." exactly the same thoughts as your thread title are going through my head
greg17477 said:
hehehehe, best (most honest) thread title i have seen in the last couple of months right in you face baby
well, i am away from sense roms, but everytime i see a sense rom titled "fast, smooth,...." exactly the same thoughts as your thread title are going through my head
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lol,
I fell for it and tried the Sensation roms, which were claimed to be Fast & Smooth ...
nowhere near as fast and smooth as a CM7 rom, or a lite AOSP rom such as the one done by Xylograph ...
In my opinion the less EXT/Data2Sd etc partition on a SD card a rom uses the Faster it is.
Access and Read times are both Faster on NAND than any SD Card,
regards
I use a Sense NAND rom on one of my HD2, so far I haven't noticed many lag problems. Of course, it will never be faster than cyanogenmod, but it's fairly close, even when using it to play games.
The SD build on the other hand... I overclocked to 1.2 ghz for best results.
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I use a Sense NAND rom on one of my HD2, so far I haven't noticed many lag problems. Of course, it will never be faster than cyanogenmod, but it's fairly close, even when using it to play games.
The SD build on the other hand... I overclocked to 1.2 ghz for best results.
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oh please.....
btw. we do not mean the lags, but its usability on daily basis.. for example checking mails, checkin facebook, checkin weather etc. simultaneously... while doing this, you can even open your camera quickly (if something is happeing around suddenly) and you can do this in a fiew seconds and your phone won't freeze. And i am not talking about freshly flashed rom doing this on Sense, you need to be a very patient person and have a lot of time
what is also funny, when people say "this sense rom is very stable, i run it for almost 2 days without reboot".. sense is just outdated these days..
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oh please.....
btw. we do not mean the lags, but its usability on daily basis.. for example checking mails, checkin facebook, checkin weather etc. simultaneously... while doing this, you can even open your camera quickly (if something is happeing around suddenly) and you can do this in a fiew seconds and your phone won't freeze. And i am not talking about freshly flashed rom doing this on Sense, you need to be a very patient person and have a lot of time
what is also funny, when people say "this sense rom is very stable, i run it for almost 2 days without reboot".. sense is just outdated these days..
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I personally like the Sense UI, and I do not find the lags and delays that bothersome.
To say it's outdated... well, to each his own.
It depends on your style of using your phone
For me sense ROMs are fine. They aren't the fastest but they sure are pretty
and i think a class 6 SD card should help with speed
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I personally like the Sense UI, and I do not find the lags and delays that bothersome.
To say it's outdated... well, to each his own.
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It depends on your style of using your phone
For me sense ROMs are fine. They aren't the fastest but they sure are pretty
and i think a class 6 SD card should help with speed
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guys seriously, it not a matter of taste, its a matter of FACT.
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guys seriously, it not a matter of taste, its a matter of FACT.
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Yes, it is a FACT that some people prefer the features of Sense over raw speed for the HD2 Android.
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greg17477 said:
guys seriously, it not a matter of taste, its a matter of FACT.
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Speed is a matter of fact. Tolerance levels are a matter of opinion.
Hello, I am a desperate GT540 user, a real desperate user.
My problem with my phone as is now (official 2.1) is that it is so laggy at times. The response is so awful from time to time that I really want to crash the phone at the wall (and damn I just painted the wall).
Sometimes when I got a call it shows instantly who is calling, some other times it start ringing, it slowly light the buttons, then the screen, then it show some graphics and finally it identify who is calling me (and the whole coffee shop at the moment is looking disturbed at me like "what take so long to pick up?").
This lag can happen in other places too, like for example when opening my SMSs.
My last hope now is a custom ROM.
What I want?
Well I don't want to play games or have some mind blow performance in benchmarks etc, I just want to use my phone as a phone, I want it to be quick and responsive.
I do care about the apps to work ofc (GPS and Gmaps can come in hand all the time) but I don't care if those apps are slow or the games are losing frames etc.
Also I want to have some android version that allow me to install apps in the SD card, if possible. Otherwise a workaround is something than nothing I guess.
So which rom to get? A link on how to install it as well will be very very welcome.
Thanks in advance!
CM7 Pcfighter is very fast ROM but have bug with wifi, its working but to turn on you need few times click, other working great on this ROM.
Other good ROM is OXYGEN 2.3.7 this one have .29 kernel but it very fast and all working when i testing.
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CM7 Pcfighter is very fast ROM but have bug with wifi, its working but to turn on you need few times click, other working great on this ROM.
Other good ROM is OXYGEN 2.3.7 this one have .29 kernel but it very fast and all working when i testing.
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The bug doesn't sound like a problem, especially if I am aware of it I will not have a problem at all.
Is there any step by step guide to install this?
Thanks!
sure here is guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224747
and ROM's:
2.3.7 Oxygen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335317
PCF's CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294516
Thank you very much, I hope this can give some life to that phone because I really hate to realize that I wasted 200 euros on that phone.
(I mean wasted because first LG abandoned the support while the phone was still on the market, and never got a newer android version and because I want my phones to be with me for at least 4-5 years, before I get a new one).
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CM7 Pcfighter is very fast ROM but have bug with wifi, its working but to turn on you need few times click, other working great on this ROM.
Other good ROM is OXYGEN 2.3.7 this one have .29 kernel but it very fast and all working when i testing.
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Wifi bug is now fixed.
Sent from my LG GT540 Swift
I use mur4ik's CM7 ASIS rom and I purchased and set up Autostarts from Market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
With the combination of these I am satisfied.
Many apps are started by different activites, like "phone unplugged" or "recieve sms" and I disabled the unnecessary app starts with Autostarts.
I mean my alarm clock does not start automatically anymore if I plug the phone in for example and many many more like this.
With this method my phone runs smoothly.
yes asis is good if you want to flash a fastboot version use the mirror in my sig its compressed so it download faster
Mikes Beta 4
ok... so I set things up to install the CM7.
I follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224747
but it is missing the fastboot.exe, the link is invalid. Any other link to get it safely?
Also it is noticing the situation of no LG logo and animations at startup, a situation that applies to me as well and it recommend this solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10238074&postcount=41
The problem is that with the solution is another missing file "out.kdz", the link get's me in some Czech site, which requires to install some toolbar before it let me download.
So any other link for that file as well?
Also anyone knows if it is required to fix the Boot logo problem before I go on with the recovery?
Download Android SDK tools you will find fastboot.exe there
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Download Android SDK tools you will find fastboot.exe there
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I am completely noob on this thing, where can I find those tools?
http://developer.android.com/sdk/tools-notes.html
EDIT:
I got it working!
I found the files here and there and I followed the guide posted above.
Now I have Cyanogen Mod 7 on and everything seems great so far
Thank you everybody for the help, you just made me happy
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Thanks.
Any idea about the other file? Or any idea if it is not necessary to fix the no LG logo problem, to add a custom rom?
edit: I got the SDK zip but there is no fastboot.exe in there :|
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CM7 is good, whichever u use! Guess the best cm7 is pcf but i've not tried all of the roms released!
I recomend u to use froyo (2.2) cause has the best performance, REALLY smoth, fast, everything... And our phone gets it best than GB, cause i've tested that when I get a text or Whatsapp msg, the keyboard shows faster in Froyo than GB (FOR EXAMPLE) which mean that has better response.
I recomend u Froyo cause i'm like you and I get what u say xD, I hate when someone calls and I can see who's, or the lack of speed on daily things or common things as showing an img or smth similar!
Best froyos are PCF 2.2 v2.3 AOSP, Superfast Froyo (airbus360) and MikeG's CM6 Froyo... Give then a test or test all roms you want so u can choose on your own!
But be REALLY carefuly about the process cause some bugs are shown when flashing roms!
Remember to clear cache and load battery xD
Thanks, but so far the CM7 with 2.3 is OK.
I have no lag at all and even the battery life improved.
Of course it is a bit early to be sure that this is my mod, but so far everything is fine (the wifi bug appears from time to time but not always, but it work after a few attempts).
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CM7 is good, whichever u use! Guess the best cm7 is pcf but i've not tried all of the roms released!
I recomend u to use froyo (2.2) cause has the best performance, REALLY smoth, fast, everything... And our phone gets it best than GB, cause i've tested that when I get a text or Whatsapp msg, the keyboard shows faster in Froyo than GB (FOR EXAMPLE) which mean that has better response.
I recomend u Froyo cause i'm like you and I get what u say xD, I hate when someone calls and I can see who's, or the lack of speed on daily things or common things as showing an img or smth similar!
Best froyos are PCF 2.2 v2.3 AOSP, Superfast Froyo (airbus360) and MikeG's CM6 Froyo... Give then a test or test all roms you want so u can choose on your own!
But be REALLY carefuly about the process cause some bugs are shown when flashing roms!
Remember to clear cache and load battery xD
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Ok i understand thats your opinion, And ofc i have no problem with that
Whats with everybody saying froyo is better for our phone!
I can honestly say the best rom for our phone at the minute is Mikes ICS (if your willing to cope with out Deep Sleep. YES i know its a big ask )
I cant understand why even mike appears to say on his twitter ICS dosent make sense on our phones.
Ive been hovering around these forums for the past 12 months + and i have try'd all roms that have been posted. Im Picky
But Mikes ICS is out right the best for looks, speed, smoothness, performance and multitasking
I have had absolutly no problems using ICS (deep sleep not included )
Its a shame there seems to be more support for Froyo than ginger and ICS
like for example if i had to move from ICS i would go back to GB because for me it preforms better than froyo.
Is there Something ive missed with froyo or can a hardware issue cause a rom to preform differantly on 2 different devices.
(guess i had the one good processor of the line )
because im baffled why people choose froyo
@up i like froyo better then gb
i dont really think for me that is that cm9 is ready for daily use yet some bugs not squashed