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Am I the only one that likes the stock?

My last WinMo phone was the XPERIA X1. With the stock ROM, it was an absolute train wreck. I loved to browse XDA and flash custom ROMs for the interesting hybrid SE Panels / TouchFlo3D ROMs. They were so fast, too, compared to the original SE 6.1. The original was just slow and laggy and frequently buggy as hell.
That was just a year ago.
With the HD2 I find myself not nearly as compelled to flash the ROM. I purchased my HD2 T9193 used (got it in mint condition for a screaming good deal) and the past owner had a custom ROM on there. I actually flashed to an official ROM -- the 1.66 WWE. I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks. The device was snappy, fast, lag-free, and just plain ultra-responsive. I actually liked everything about it, from HTC Messaging and the HTC keyboard to the stock Opera browser to the stock task manager and whatnot. I just felt really at home, and I was really pleased with Sense both visually and in respect to its performance.
Then I see people deriding the stock ROMs thread after thread, blaming it for people's random problems with the HD2. They claim that custom ROMs can fix the problems, but I'm running a stock ROM pretty much trouble-free. The problems I read about that are frequently attributed to stock ROMs are problems I myself am far-removed from, including but not limited to crashing, lag, bugs, and general unsatisfactory performance.
So is it really the stock ROMs that cause so many problems? I'm fairly convinced they represent an excellent way to get a known experience that you can customize fairly easily to exactly the configuration that works for you. I'm very happy with my HD2 and once I get the bloody data connection issue fixed for good I can't imagine the stock ROM will ever give me a misstep. It's just stable and fast as hell for me.
Does the stock ROM just "work" for anyone else?
(I apologize if this is considered a ROM discussion thread [not my intention, but I understand if it is considered so or devolves into one])

I'd prefer a cooked stock-like ROM than any heavily-themed one...if that's what you mean.

I have a stock T-mo Rom, and it's work well for me...Coupla of reg tweaks, and apps. Still has some bugs though..

I too went from the X1 to the Leo (as I affectionally call it over the HD2). I am using the stock 1.72 WWE/HK ROM and am quite happy with it. The thing is there are several things about cooked ROMs that you simply cannot get from a stock ROM (not even by adding .cabs), but the cooked ROMs are always heavily themed.
If I remember correctly, there was only like a handful of X1-based cooked ROMs that matched the look of the stock but had the usability of a cooked ROM, that was my preferred choice.
As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
p.s. Anyone feel sometimes some cooks go insane (in a humorous way) with heavily skinning the interface? Just makes me go oh my god! (completely personal opinion with NO mentioning of names ).

btyeh said:
As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
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Isn't an option yet? Have you look at the ChuckyROM kitchen? Not all Cooked ROMs are skinned to death (though I agree, some people do have bad taste in themes ) and some are done exactly like stock. If that's not enough, you can always cook your own stock ROM with the added stability and performance tweaks.

I am actually quite happy with the stock T-Mo US ROM. I have not done much tweaking of any kind really. Someday I am sure I will but for now I am quite happy with the phone as it is.

I love stock as well. Tried a couple of coocked (artemis and another one I can't remember) but I am not happy with them at all.
Stock is good. 1.66WWE.

I understand the benefits of cooked ROMs with regard to features and incremental bug fixes, but I don't understand why these benefits come at the expense of the stock ROM's reputation -- that is what I am getting at. I find nothing egregiously wrong with the stock ROM for me now that I've tweaked it sufficiently.
The BEST part about the HD2 is that I always have the option. And the options are all attractive.. I guess there's just too many of them for me to pick just one.

i like my stock ROM don't see any point yet to go for a custom one.i updated to the official one from htc website and hot nolag or problems

There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.

I use stock 1.66 ... no problems for me! (well no major ones anyway... got a minor issue with text size when writing an sms but i think every rom has this)

I have the stock 1.72 and I have to say im very happy with it. I would consider a cooked Rom but it will be for curiosity not because of any probs with the stock one.
RReckless

It depends on people's taste
I love cook roms because I like 6.5.x finger-friendly style, and in cook rom I dont have to install some apps 1-by-1, and dont have to apply tweaks 1-by-1. Another good things is cook rom decorate the start menu quite well.

friend'scatdied said:
I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks.
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I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.

dipaolnv said:
I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.
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They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.

friend'scatdied said:
They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.
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I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)

skycamefalling said:
There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.
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I like this statement. Very true.
I use a custom ROM because the OS has a footprint of under 50Mb with a few tweaks, it's fast, and good looking. WM 6.5 stock ROMs are ugly, and I am spoilt with the finger friendliness of 6.5.x.

pongster said:
I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)
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Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.

friend'scatdied said:
Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.
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"an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there."
You just described g.lewarne's ROM Series mate

I've flased the O2 1.72 stock rom and I have no problems to report. It even solved the SMS lag. Along with Cookie, BSB, HD2 Tweak and all the fab clocks from everybody, the stock rom suits me fine.

BEST COMBINATION-Effective perfomance

Hi Guys
I would like to inform you guys I have found best perfomace build+kernal
I have tried various builds with various kernals for last couple of weeks.either I had battery drainage or stoppage or data corruption or laggy problems
Finally best one I tried is
MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.6_MDJ_S78.0 with update.kernel.hastarin.16.12.2010.Works perfect. battery usage is great to be honest with you better than window ROM and less laggy. no corrupted data or sudden stoppages.
Try guys.I bet this will be the best combination built I have ever tried.
Thanx Mdeejay and hasterin
what about RAM based built mdjay....?

And what's up with radio, sd-card, wm rom and such stuff?
Pretty subjective post and not really helpfull.

My radio 2.15
windows version 3.14
latest window version from HTC
first downloaded mdeejays and then extracted
then downloaded latest kernal from hasterin then copied into andriod .
thats it.best performance

imho its a useless post.
Best performance is very subjective
Besides , speaking of performance , ram version roms are on top , and thats not subjective

Spb TV does not work though. Have you tried it?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

what is the battery drain is standby with current widget? cheers

I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.

rasih5503 said:
I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.
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how long did you try the build until you reached your conclusion. 30min? 1hr? day? all builds work different for some people than others depending on winrom, radio, kernel, sdcard, apps installed, etc...

So what is it? whats the best build combo?Cause it seems to me that nothing is complete? Don't get me wrong their are some talented people here doing putting some incredible builds together and Ive tested a lot of them, but still cant seem to find that one build that could be used for long term daily use.Has any one else?
Ive searched a lot of threads and tried a lot of suggestion and not any real luck
what im using now seems to be pretty good but at times i have location and data drops and no mms.

I am using mccm 3.4 for weeks now without any problem. Other builds would crap out on me after few days of use. Just saying.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I have CR192 DESIRE HD as winmo rom, radio 2.15.50 and I'm running motoman evo carbon remix .06 and I have a great performing setup, I usually unplug my phone around 3am to go to work and by the time I go to bed around 8pm I usually still have around 15% on moderate use. I've been using this setup with a couple of different motoman builds as a daily driver for 5 weeks without using winmo at all. Honestly is all on phone to phone basis. No matter how much you try the same setup might not work the same for two different phones. The hardware is not 100% identical on every phone, that's why it never behaves the same, that's why there's always people saying they're having an issue while others aren't.
So pretty much I'm saying that while you think your setup is the best, others might not have the same result as you.

what a horrible thread, lol
anyways, i dont have the crazy amount of times to test multiple builds and you probably got your findings wrong
i am using MDJ 4.6 Desire HD and its good, but not great
it has its flaws and issues
today I just got a corrupted SD card with many files with weird names in them
i have tested the Darkstone RAM build, didnt like anything without Sense
i have tested MIUI , its blazing fast but the fact that it looks like iphone, bleh
your statements are subjective and totally unmeasurable

Why is this in the dev section?
Sent from my HTC bravo using XDA App

Well the intention behind the thread is alright..Anyways, I am testing Gingerbread RAM V1.0 by MDJ and am getting less than 1% battery drain/hour which is the best I have experienced in 3months of trying various builds and it's rooted so SetCPU works. However, lots of other apps including Facebook are not working..I guess in time MDJ will show the way..

And I have 2.15 Radio, HTC latest ROM and HSPL

Mccm3.4 and mdj4.6 with non-newest-hastarin kernels are two build I will vouch for as daily drivers.
But no build is as reliable as a build with a .zip backup of itself on internal memory for speedy unzipping to sdcard.
I am running darkstones superram 1.5 now and loving it, and am looking forward to mdj's ram gingerbread rc5 when it comes out tonight or tomorrow.
On all these builds I named I see '6-9ma' standby battery drain a lot, 19ma sometimes.

i am using Motoman234_Desire_PCB_Sense_V1.0 work perfect all software work and installed fast and stable good back up

Anougher opinionated thread,this might work for you but might not be so good for someone else,its mostly down to personal preffrence but if you want a good Desire HD build then yeah its a good combo

Fishing for the best build
to begin with i have used radio 2.15.50 with wwe 3.14 original rom htc update,battery drainage was too high on windows and also android build,80% was the ram usage.so i have downgraded to wwe 1.66 and only upgraded the radio 2.15.50.i have been using MDJ REVOLUTION HD WITH HASTARIN 8.5.3 and its brilliant for daily usage.with moderate use, battery life is excellent.to me this is the best combination.i have also tried all other builds but i remained with this one.because its brilliant with animations and the lot.
one of our member has started this thread just to find out what he can use for his phone without trying other builds,because its easier for him to find out this way rather than doing himself.its not that he managed to find the best combination,HIS FISHING FOR THE BEST COMBINATION FROM THE OTHER MEMBERS.he will probably say he has tried all the other builds)

Not too be pee'ing you guys against the leggs.. but i'm using the same config now. for about 5 days and omfg.. this one really works! battery stands for a whole day while data always on. ( with gps always on about 14 hours before its drained )
no dropouts, no bull**** with ppp. no legs en a pretty good bench points.

The Usual Question - what ROM for me?

Hiya - I thought I was sooooo cool when I got my Hero - at last I had a fancy phone and I loved it - of course it turned out i was one of the last people to ever actually be sent a Hero and this is why I got a great deal, absolutely nothing to do with being a good customer
So I have my Hero until Jan/feb 2012 - I still love it and it does pretty much everything I want - play music, listen to audiobooks, watch the occasional movie etc however I think I need to liven it up a little by trying out a new Rom.
The phone is rooted and I am currently using Villain12 which has been great - I would not have changed if I had not been playing around with Launchers and no longer use Sense - much prefer ADW Launcher.
Anyway - what is the best Rom for me? - speed and battery life is important and also space for new apps (it must have Aps2SD built in) what puts me off Villain13 is that from what I read a lot of app space is eaten up for some reason. I would also like an Rom with lots of Skins or at least a few I can change it with.
Thanks for answering

CM 7.0.0 maybe?
i guess you should go and download the roms you can find and try them all for a few days?
but beware flashing is adictive x3

CM7 or something based on it e.g. Cronos or Elelinux.

Got some suggestions
I think Elelinux ROM would be great for you, really stable and fast with amazing battery life, Theme chooser and many other options .. really experienced developer as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932377
but as a matter of fact after using this ROM for a long while i missed Sense but the Gingerbread really makes it up until this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090186
Or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076772
is stable for daily use

[Q] Where is Pongster?

Haven't seen anything new since Hyperdroid CM7 2.1.0, which was released going on 2 months ago now, and GBX V12 before that. Just wondering if he's moved on to something else, and if we should be expecting anything new anytime soon. I don't want to give up on Hyperdroid, but if Pongster's gone, I guess it will be time to move on to something new

I guess you didn't realize he has a new baby either on the way or already here and a regular job to contend with. Pongster's build is pretty stable if you ask me. Just uses more battery than other ROMs that I have used on my phone.

slbenz said:
I guess you didn't realize he has a new baby either on the way or already here and a regular job to contend with. Pongster's build is pretty stable if you ask me. Just uses more battery than other ROMs that I have used on my phone.
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Mine just work fine. Medium-heavy use gives me max of 15hrs.
Sent from my Calculator with Android.

low and heavy usage are different for every person. mAh are more informative and on this side the battery was worse for me than on other builds.

Hyperdroid cm7 works no problems for me. 15 - 18hrs is OK for me
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slbenz said:
I guess you didn't realize he has a new baby either on the way or already here and a regular job to contend with. Pongster's build is pretty stable if you ask me. Just uses more battery than other ROMs that I have used on my phone.
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No, I didnt realize that, and after searching through his ROM forums, didnt see anything about it and gave up searching. His ROM is more than stable though and I love it. I get up to 18 hr's a day of battery on normal usage, with a couple tweaks too though. Its the only ROM I've been using since I first tried his GBX V2.0, but if he's taking time off to handle personal stuff then I'm gonna go flash crazy trying other ROM's now. Just wondering if we could expect anything new from him is all. Thanks for the info though.

Dorimanx High End
Switch to Dorimanx High End Rom, best Rom imo, has best support by far, smooth, fast, and updated constantly.

Sully6789 said:
No, I didnt realize that, and after searching through his ROM forums, didnt see anything about it and gave up searching. His ROM is more than stable though and I love it. I get up to 18 hr's a day of battery on normal usage, with a couple tweaks too though. Its the only ROM I've been using since I first tried his GBX V2.0, but if he's taking time off to handle personal stuff then I'm gonna go flash crazy trying other ROM's now. Just wondering if we could expect anything new from him is all. Thanks for the info though.
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No problem. Like you because there hasn't been a recent update, I have been trying other ROMs. So far, Tytung's Nexus HD2 v2.8 build the last couple of weeks has been very stable for me, similar to Pongsters but with even less battery drain. 3% battery loss vs. 5% battery loss on overnight standby. Also, actual app use, Tytung's build on my phone is about on average 50mA less than Pongsters. Though I do somewhat miss the CM configurations possible on Pongster's build. Both are great builds, but it again boils down to what you want on your phone. For me, solid GPS and Bluetooth are what I need and that is what Tytung brings to me. But Pongster's build is slightly more responsive and more configurable. Good luck flashing other ROMs. Let us know what you find out.

Right now I'm using D4RK MIUI V 4.0.1 by Zx The Ripper xZ. I hadn't tried a MIUI ROM before but I gotta say, I'm very impressed. I love the customization it offers, along the with overall look and feel. I had to go with ADW Launcher though, just because that's what I'm used to with HyperDroid. I get a full days worth of battery after calibration, and the integrated AGPS libs is a plus too. Tytung really knocked it outta the park with that one, and put our HD2's one step closer to becoming an almost full fledged native device. I'm gonna use it for a few days, and then I think I'll try Dorimanx High End Rom, and probably Tytung's Nexus HD2 after that, just because I know Tytung's stuff is always top notch. Theres so many choices, I'm just gonna have fun with it, and maybe try em all Thanks guys.

i read on a rom thread that the high battery drain for cm7 roms is related to the lockscreen and email.apk. if you delete email.apk and chose another lockscreen than default the battery drain should be gone. but i didn't try cause i'm on miui.
think this was written in the dorimax rom thread.

Daily use NAND Android

Hello.
As the title says, I want a android rom that is stable, fast and holds the battery pretty good =) I work 8 hours every day, and most of them is filled with spotify, so battery is needed. Tested different roms for a while now, but non have been what i wanted
Anyone who knows any good roms i can test? =)
Thanks
HabueN

HabueN said:
Hello.
As the title says, I want a android rom that is stable, fast and holds the battery pretty good =) I work 8 hours every day, and most of them is filled with spotify, so battery is needed. Tested different roms for a while now, but non have been what i wanted
Anyone who knows any good roms i can test? =)
Thanks
HabueN
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I would recommend hyperdroid cm7 5.3.0 and nexushd2

HabueN said:
Hello.
As the title says, I want a android rom that is stable, fast and holds the battery pretty good =) I work 8 hours every day, and most of them is filled with spotify, so battery is needed. Tested different roms for a while now, but non have been what i wanted
Anyone who knows any good roms i can test? =)
Thanks
HabueN
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Almost all non GB-Sense ROMs are 100% functional and good for daily use. GB Sense ROMs are also supposedly good for daily use but I personally find them quite glitchy and slow (try them anyway, you may be able to tolerate this). I use Typhoon CM7 as it's fast, efficient, and regularly updated with the latest features.

TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.7.3[2.3.7][A2SD][tytung r12.4v3]
I have been using these for my daily since around 2.4.something and love it, quick updates, fast as anything performance with pretty decent battery. I have everything turned on and am on one WiFi connection or another pretty much all day. Use it moderately for browsing, texting, phone, and gps and it lasts pretty much all day for me. Give it a shot, I bet you will be happy.
Oh yeah, I am sure you would be able to tell from the thread but there is no Sense or anything, pretty standard CM7 interface with ADWLauncher

I've tried many different ROMs over the last few weeks and finally arrived with TyphooN as well.
What I found more important is that from my experience, tytung's 12.3 (and newer) kernels are the only ones that have no or close to no audio quality issues, so I'd definitely opt for a ROM with tytung's kernel.

Check my signature. Has everything you asked for on this thread

I´m also on TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 for a long time now.
Very stable and fast, good battery live time

I am using Hd2 Ndt ginger ginger rom , its very fast and stable with go launcher
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013852
After first boot
All task killed free ram 240 - 260 mb
And quadrant benchmark score 1265
Antutu benchmark score 2561
And very good battery life
I can play 3d games .
I like it may you try

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Check my signature. Has everything you asked for on this thread
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Hard not to see your signature. It's a full-screen advertisement.

Hyperdroid is tha bomb.

Thanks for answers
Will see what i land on finally.. I can see i have a few more to test =))

I have used TyphooN_CM7 and Desire HD Ace, these two roms on my hd2.
one is original android and one is with sense...
I think you can try these two roms,

Any flavor of Hyperdroid is tight. My best recommendation is try a few different roms out and seeing if you like one. If using it intensively is a big issue for you I would suggest that you don't install system heavy apps, i.e. Live wallpapers, crazy widgets that use system resources like weather or GPS. Keeping GPS and WIFI off until you need to access those services and changing the display brightness down a tad. There are plenty of threads on these issues and keep in mind that Android itself is a huge battery abuser, but it's so worth it. I use the above mentioned apps and still get a full day out of my phone as long as I don't spend hours at a time accessing them. Keeping a charger on hand at work also helps as well.

I´m using AmericanAndroid nand since first release and it´s very fast, good battery life 2mA in standby.