Database Users

My Experience Thus Far

Just got my shift today, and so far I'm head over heels with it I know I can't give a legitimate review until I've had it for at least a few weeks, so I'll make sure to pop back in after I've had it for a bit. The only complain I have at this point is the volume button placement; I've been accidentally tapping it as I close the slider. I have found a solution though! Get in the habit of placing your thumb a bit more to the right while using the keybboard, OR moving one or both of your thumbs to the top and bottom of your phone before closing the slider.
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Glad to hear you're liking it so far! I've had mine for two days now and I'm proud to say I'm also head over heels.
I didn't think I'd be able to stand running Sense again, but it really flies on this phone. Volume placement doesn't bother me. Only thing that does is bloatware (man HTC really put a lot on this one!) Most of that is already gone, however.

I was looking around and it seems like there is no permanent root yet. Did you temp root and remove the bloatware? What are the downside to temp rooting over per rooting?
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Nmott93 said:
I was looking around and it seems like there is no permanent root yet. Did you temp root and remove the bloatware? What are the downside to temp rooting over per rooting?
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Yes I did.
The only downside I see is use of what root users deem necessary apps doesn't stick on reboot. Well, that and the obvious lack of rom selection.
S-Off is just a whole different game. I'm used to using fastboot commands, etc.
We'll see permaroot before too long and I'm sure we'll have great rom and theme selection after that.

Sorry for the stupid questions, but what exactly is a ROM? I'm still pretty new to the whole Android scene ;( S-off and Fastboot Commands as well
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Nmott93 said:
Sorry for the stupid questions, but what exactly is a ROM? I'm still pretty new to the whole Android scene ;( S-off and Fastboot Commands as well
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Think of a rom as a modified, sometimes heavily, version of the phone's operating system.
You'll see AOSP roms, that's Android the way Google meant it to be.
Sense roms, modified versions of HTC's releases.
I would give you a few great links but I'm on phone at the moment. I'll get them to ya a little later.

Haven't temp-rooted my shift because I thought I read that any bloatware you remove will come-back after re-boot. Can you comment?
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Yes I did.
The only downside I see is use of what root users deem necessary apps doesn't stick on reboot. Well, that and the obvious lack of rom selection.
S-Off is just a whole different game. I'm used to using fastboot commands, etc.
We'll see permaroot before too long and I'm sure we'll have great rom and theme selection after that.
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geekdaddy said:
Haven't temp-rooted my shift because I thought I read that any bloatware you remove will come-back after re-boot. Can you comment?
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I've seen reports of both.
Everything that I have removed has stayed gone. I haven't rebooted, but my phone has dies, so that's essentially the same thing.

I'm waiting for perm root and some healthy ROM development before I go back to the Shift. I thought thse things were like roted within 2 weeks of thier release though?

@Nmott93 - I've gathered a small collection of links to better guide you through your questions than I myself can in words.
You'll notice most users in these forums are extremely helpful. I think the biggest pet peeve is when people ask questions that are all ready answered in the op. Don't worry about them though!
Permanent Root or Temporary. Which is for you?
Custom ROMs for Android Explained: Why you want them.
What S-Off Is and How To Gain It - Doesn't apply to our phones, yet, but great read.
AOSP: Android Open Source Project - Home Site, lots of information.
Cyanogen(mod) - The most popular non-stock rom on any phone that I've had, still, not for everyone.
I hope that these links are informational for you, and I've got plenty more saved away if you want anything else!

Jeez, thanks! I'll start reading through these when I get to work
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Rooting DHD

I am a new to android. Was a long time Iphone user and I wanted to know how to root DHD and what are the major benefits of rooting the DHD
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I want now to.
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rooting is very easy, i rooted mine a couple of days ago and flashed a custom ROM today
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/15/universal-android-rooting-method-visionary-method/

There are plenty of guides in the development section. I only rooted mine last week, after having been completely new to the android system.
To give you any advice, it would be to read around what you have to do before you actually do it. For a first time user, it could sound complicated, but it really isnt.
Also, I would go for LeeDroids custom Rom and kernel, they run immaculately.
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The benefits of rooting your phone is a much faster phone and improved battery life, and much more other stuffs

the main benefit is the possibility to run apps that need special privileges... you should do when you want to run those apps. rooting by rooting is pointless...
I rooted my phone a month ago cause i wanted to change the pixel density and now i flash a new rom every day... it's a addiction.. =o)

Can you pls explain what you mean by changing pixel density
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Teach the boy to crawl first

Rather than start a new thread I hope you don't mind me asking in here!
I want to root my DHD, however I need to downgrade my phone to 2.2 from 2.2.1. Is it possible to do it on a Mac?
Any help would be great!

@eiKr, there is a whole thread about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
i really don't know, since i don't use a mac...
@niks_5in, type "LCD density" on the market and you will know what i meant! =oP need to say, i don't see any bad side effect in rooting, but since you came from iphone, you should read a lot on dev section before make any kind of change in your device...

I was on the same boat as you...
Today I decided to root it and what a difference!

Should be possible on a mac since there are osx versions of adb and fastboot available. Think there is already a pre extracted pd98img.zip available for download from the downgrade guide thread.
You don't need to run any windows exe for the downgrade.
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Someone Swyped my idea.

Most benefits has already been brought up, but one big benefit is to have full control over your device.
And I will soon flash the phone for the first time, just waiting for wid0w to set up a rom flashing tutorial (hopefully today).

thiagodark said:
I rooted my phone a month ago cause i wanted to change the pixel density
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Is that like using a higher resolution display on the phone? Can you show us a comparison?

+1 to LeeDroid 2.0.0 although you're best to look through the many available to see which one might suit you best. They're all pretty stable.
PLEASE remember that this is your choice though, nothing to do with the developer of the ROM if it goes wrong. There's plenty of information about how to do it so you should be fine! I successfully got root, s-off, recovery, and have flashed loads of different ROM's with no problems.
Be warned though that as someone else above said, it gets ridiculously addictive, you'll be checking for updates all the time!
Benefits of it for me is that I have control over my device. I got mine in the UK through Orange and there was a load of "bloatware" on there which I would never use but couldn't uninstall. Rooting and a new ROM solved this plus when a stable gingerbread ROM comes out, I'll be at the front of the line for it rather than wait for my service carrier to provide the update!

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Is that like using a higher resolution display on the phone? Can you show us a comparison?
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Yeah you can change the DPI in the boot.prop. Ill get some screenshots of my Streak up when I get home.

Yeah, I rooted mine because of those preinstaled applications such as stocks, filckr or news which i never used and they still kept running in the background. You can also make your DHD even faster by OC (+30% of CPU performance - safely), make the speaker louder so you can finaly hear it. Most (if not all) of the ROMs available are also faster and smoother than the stock and they should improve your battery life. However it is not my case, cause since i flashed the new ROM (Core Droid - nice eyecandy and super smooth) i'm still playing with the phone and sometimes i have to recharge twice a day
Its thruth that you can brick your phone for good, but if you carefuly follow instructions on this forum and think twice, its 100% safe (or 99.9999% at least).
Just one advice that might prove useful and i haven't seen it here on the forum. After flashing a new ROM, do not erase the instalation .zip filefrom the SD. Can be useful if something goes wrong, especialy if you dont have a card reader

just search for "visionary"
its a one click root tool

Yea I used Visionary and it's was very easy

Munching popcorn from the Froyo seats

I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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Technically with the locked bootloader everybody is running a Motorola released version. This new version of gb that was released was by an ota to a few phones. While not a full fledged update to gb it is very stable and reliable. I have been on it and have zero problems. All of my apps appeared. And no bootloops. The directions for everything that needs to be done are very well done and there is almost a zero percent chance of truly bricking your phone. And with sbf'ing and everything I had to do to get to gb it only took me about fifteen total minutes to get there. Enjoy your stable Froyo and popcorn and I will enjoy my stable Gingerbread.
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jazaddict said:
I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.

razorloves said:
wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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lol that's funny.

He must have got this site confused with facebook.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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jazaddict said:
Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes

Jmoney47 said:
What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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+1. With the locked bootloader and no way for people to try to flash the radio or kernel. It has made this phone nearly impossible to hard brick. I only know of one. Every other person has worked through there problems by the helpful people and guides on this and other forums. You stick around here long enough and you will be eating gingerbread instead of popcorn.
Edit: I should say no way to flash a custom kernel or custom radio.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.

I'm not trying to go against the tone of the thread here by saying this, but I have Gingerbread and am really not looking back. Stock Froyo was boring, everyone will agree with that. From there you had either ApeX or rubiX (or later Liberty). I ran all three actually and settled between Apex and rubiX Focused. Apex is/was good for battery life and overall stability. rubiX Focused is/was good for speed and stability, battery life was a bit less than Apex. But to me Gingerbread is the best of both worlds. 30-40 hour battery life PLUS the much improved (for most) Quadrant scores and overall speed and snappiness is like rubiX + ApeX. (video here)
I guess all I'm trying to say is that *when done properly*, if you flash from your favorite ROM to Gingerbread it's completely doable without any hitches or hangups. The thing to remember here is this: you're going from your favorite build/ROM/setup to something completely foreign. When I first flashed 2.3 (the most recent OTA, deodexed & rooted) there were some things I complained about. Then, with time and just playing around with it, I figured them out. I think most people are "having issues" with it because it's really that much of a change. It's not the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1. It's a whole new setup, interface and all. I think it's the process that scares people, and that's understandable, but just remember.. it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to brick your phone. With SBF, you'd almost have to be trying to mess things ups. Find a decent guide and give it a shot. You can always flash back to your current setup.

portnoyd said:
While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
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Just a heads up, be careful with Wireless Tether on 2.3.. or even 2.2 if you're going over 5GB. People are saying that's being watched now.

I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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jazaddict said:
I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I am definitely getting better battery life. The other day I calibrated my battery and had to wait for 1 day 13 hours and change before the thing finally died. Also if the drivers aren't working for you try this. http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...-solution-your-windows-rsd-lite-problems.html
just put it on a cd and go. It is linux. I haven't used it since my windows 7 64 bit system did the job for me just fine, but I have heard a really good response with this. Also, if you have any questions about it the guy is really good at answering them.
Since you are on stock....you are really in the perfect position to upgrade to gb the easiest. Root, Droid 2 Bootstrap, wipe, run the 3 files from tbh, wipe, and reboot. Off you go.

Just to note TBH has put out a rooted version of the GB leak....

I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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jazaddict said:
I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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1. No it will redownload after you flash
2. Yes. No idea why or how to fix
3. Over-the-air. It is an update sent directly to your phone from Verizon.
4. No. But SBF'ing is not difficult at all, it's just the idea that scares people and that people make stupid mistakes
5. I think two, or four maybe. But that is completely unrelated. Look it up

Thx....damn quick response.
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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jazaddict said:
Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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all links work here
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...3-3-4-5-588-install-patch-root.html#post68035

No joy.
Got an abort on the first file. (Good place to get one I guess). These files were downloaded to the wifey's laptop and copied over.
One distinction ...instructions here included "wipe", but the instructions from the modderX site did not mention wipe.
Furthermore there are 2 wipes .... I tried wiping the cache...no joy. The other wipe looked too scary..sumpin about reset factory blah blah blah.....
Its good to be on vacation.
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Root

Has it been made possible to root 2.3.4 as of late?
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No. Only downgrading will work. IMO, gingerbread for our phone will never achieve full root and S-off... But I had to downgrade and its not that hard! Go here to downgrade. good luck.
Thanks if I helped

Lol u like your thanks dont you
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Yup.
10 char

Im thinking by the time I get all this downgrading, rooting,and flashing.....ill be due for my upgrade and rockin my sgs2
I originally had the vibrant but broke it aonth ago and am now using a friends backup phone....I learned to temp root this thing then had tmobile update it now im back to this? Lol.....cant wait for april
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All of that should take 30minutes to an hour lol. Not days or weeks

The galaxy s series is so easy to root and flash ....all done without the need for a computer
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Yeah but the mytouch 4g root with a computer is so much more worth it

Shortbus-Driver said:
The galaxy s series is so easy to root and flash ....all done without the need for a computer
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No, after Gingerbread update you have to use a computer with ODIN to root, and once rooted, it's much more painful to flash the idiotic partition system of Galaxy S, requiring you to reflash bootloaders and kernels from PC before flashing the actual ROMs or even for backup restorations, being unable to flash kernel from recovery - because kernel contains the recovery. Actually, if there is a phone that requires PC almost for any type of flashing - that would be Galaxy S.
IMHO, as stated many times - if you can't follow a simple guide to downgrade and root your MT4G, you shouldn't be rooting anyway.

Lmao what a tard
That reply isnt even worthy of a responce....buckle up

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Lmao what a tard
That reply isnt even worthy of a responce....buckle up
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@jack_r1 makes a very valid point. rooting this phone when it had 2.2.x was STUPID easy. Easy and quick enough that i had it rooted before i left the T-Mobile Store, when i bought the phone.
The new method is simple. you downgrade then you use one of two VERY simple methods to root your phone.
If you cannot follow directions and need to rely on a one click root. Either based from the phone or on the PC then you shouldn't be messing with SU access.

Shortbus-Driver said:
Lmao what a tard
That reply isnt even worthy of a responce....buckle up
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That's what a clueless person would say, I guess. If you had ever tried to flash anything on Galaxy S type phone, you'd know. Pretty much all the ROM flashing instructions contain ODIN versions and instructions that require flashing at least bootloaders and mostly kernels too (see "Flash a stock Gingerbread ROM" step as an example), for a reason. Moreover, you can try flashing Gingerbread MIUI and then reverting back without ODIN. Good luck.
And whoever messed with rooting and flashing one phone, if he didn't just have to click "root" button on 1-click-rooter of some kind, but at least to work out ADB, wouldn't be afraid of rooting MT4G. I guess your mouth is going far ahead of your knowledge. It's good that rooting became complicated on all phones, because it keeps dummies from messing with things they don't understand.

This is what happens when one is having a friendly conversation with another and a third party joins in with a ” im better than you complex” and runs his/her trap and makes insults for no apperent reason all in his/her very first post .....if you cant be nice and put in helpful info without insult stay out kiddo......or buckle up and enjoy the ride....I dont care either way I deal with dumbasses on a daily basis and your not gonna find my nerve
lol
I dont let children and childish adults get to me lit-alone on a keyboard
Yes you can root and flash a galaxy s without ever touching a comp.
Yes in some cases odin is required,inwhich involves using a comp.....omg Im so sorry ..... Although that was further along than the conversation I was having with invasion....lol you just wanted to come here and play the ”all knowing” part and the ”im also a cyber tough guy” part wich are both laughable and pathetic at the same time.
Now you can stop your childish anticks and allow hair to grow on your balls or continue crying like a little girl.....either way im done with you youve already waisted enough of my time inwhich im certain you were not worth! :-D
Go ahead, feel free to make another attempt to make yourself feel big and bad.....after all thats what you came here to do in the first place.....and seeins as im giving you the oppertunity to have the last word.......nows your chance to turn it around or fail as you so boldly have.
Have a nice day kiddo

Or should I rephrase:
You posted without searching, one of, if not the most posted question on the forum. Then, when you got the response that indicated you as a not-so-brave person, you tried to start bragging to lift your self-esteem, taking this thread off track. Then, when you understood you've got caught bragging, you've read the regular line that shows on these forums 3 times a week - "if you can't follow the guide, you shouldn't be rooting anyway" as a personal insult - and got all cocky and started name calling. When you got paid with the same money, you still keep being cocky.
The funny thing is that I didn't write to catch you on your bragging, I couldn't care less. I just can't stand wrong info, which you happened to be spilling, so I corrected. This is not a private chatroom, there are no "friendly conversations" here. This is XDA-Developers, not XDA-group-hugging-team.
Waste of time, indeed.
Grow up.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = Burn. I think we should stop arguing.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = Burn. I think we should stop arguing.
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+100
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Thank god this is just a loaner phone.
I guess its true.....that with cheap low quality phones comes cheap low quality followers.....have a nice life lol

...why are you not banned yet?
everything Jack_R1 said is absolutely true.
he is a very great helper, and many people respect him. if you don't have the quality of respect, then i'm sorry, but you must not have been taught any morals.
i COMPLETELY disagree with anything you said. Samsung makes the worst products out there. i mean seriously? WHY DO I NEED TO FLASH MY GALAXY S VIA ODIN OR WHATEVER GARBAGE TO GET A NEW ROM??? that's plain crap! pointless. you must not have very good experience with HTC devices.
let me show you how HTC does it:
Rooting
very easy and simple on most devices, main thing is to obtain S-off.
Flashing
even easier.
this procedure goes for every HTC device out there:
reboot to recovery
make a nandroid backup
wipe
flash
DONE.
what about Samsung?
oooh first you gotta flash the "bootloader" or whatever crap, then the "modem", then this, then that via ODIN, and then you gotta do this this and this, THEN you finally reboot into recovery and flash.
i will let you decide which you think is easier, but don't go about saying that i have "no idea what i'm talking about" because i do. my dad has a Galaxy S, and flashing to that device is complete crap. i don't know WHERE you got that info that "flashing to a Galaxy doesn't require a computer". BECAUSE IT DOES.
stupid ODIN...
anyway, back on point. if you think you're so great and pro, maybe YOU can make an easier way to root 2.3.4 Stock MYTOUCH. cause i think a lot of us would appreciate it. maybe then, you'll be worthy enough to be here. because all you've done so far, is fill up xda with your retarded garbage.
have a nice day.

Shortbus-Driver said:
Thank god this is just a loaner phone.
I guess its true.....that with cheap low quality phones comes cheap low quality followers.....have a nice life lol
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That's cool too. You're welcome for the help. -_____-
saranhai said:
...why are you not banned yet?
everything Jack_R1 said is absolutely true.
he is a very great helper, and many people respect him. if you don't have the quality of respect, then i'm sorry, but you must not have been taught any morals.
i COMPLETELY disagree with anything you said. Samsung makes the worst products out there. i mean seriously? WHY DO I NEED TO FLASH MY GALAXY S VIA ODIN OR WHATEVER GARBAGE TO GET A NEW ROM??? that's plain crap! pointless. you must not have very good experience with HTC devices.
let me show you how HTC does it:
Rooting
very easy and simple on most devices, main thing is to obtain S-off.
Flashing
even easier.
this procedure goes for every HTC device out there:
reboot to recovery
make a nandroid backup
wipe
flash
DONE.
what about Samsung?
oooh first you gotta flash the "bootloader" or whatever crap, then the "modem", then this, then that via ODIN, and then you gotta do this this and this, THEN you finally reboot into recovery and flash.
i will let you decide which you think is easier, but don't go about saying that i have "no idea what i'm talking about" because i do. my dad has a Galaxy S, and flashing to that device is complete crap. i don't know WHERE you got that info that "flashing to a Galaxy doesn't require a computer". BECAUSE IT DOES.
stupid ODIN...
anyway, back on point. if you think you're so great and pro, maybe YOU can make an easier way to root 2.3.4 Stock MYTOUCH. cause i think a lot of us would appreciate it. maybe then, you'll be worthy enough to be here. because all you've done so far, is fill up xda with your retarded garbage.
have a nice day.
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LMAO. ^^^^^^^^^^ = 2ND STRAIGHT BURN!!!
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Lol this is funny ****

hello all!

Well last night I cracked the screen on my Droid X, So this morning I woke up and realized that I had to buy a new phone.
I went searching the xda Forums for a phone that still had active Development going for it, but a phone that wasn't too expensive. SOOOOOOOOo I decided on the Droid Incredible! (found one in new condition for $95) I'm very impressed with the STILL active development on the DInc, Considering the Droid X is Newer, and development tapered off well before last Christmas... There hasn't been a good rom released for the X in MONTHS!
I'm not new by any means to the rooted/Rom'd community, and I'm more than Positive that I can share a lot of good input.
So if any dev's need help/testers, etc, LET ME KNOW!
So tell me guys - What rom/kernal tweaks/themes/radio mods should I start with?
Theres TOO many for me to decide on my own!
Thanks!

CM7 with incredikernel.
Or if you want it to be a little fancy with less tweaking and work involved, go MIUI and incrediknerel.
ICS is available, but doesn't run as well as the GB ROM's do.

Yeah I'm not too crazy about ICS myself, Is everything working on CM7 for the DInc?
How about performance? FC's or laggy scrolling?
Because on the X we never had Camera, Gps, Etc., and The only way to get past laggy scrolling was to OC/OV, which still Killed your battery in half a day lol
and then on CM9 We had some crazy bugs like being stuck in landscape mode which I CANNOT STAND
Thanks for the Starting point though!

internecinehigh said:
Yeah I'm not too crazy about ICS myself, Is everything working on CM7 for the DInc?
How about performance? FC's or laggy scrolling?
Because on the X we never had Camera, Gps, Etc., and The only way to get past laggy scrolling was to OC/OV, which still Killed your battery in half a day lol
and then on CM9 We had some crazy bugs like being stuck in landscape mode which I CANNOT STAND
Thanks for the Starting point though!
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everything will work. you can even undervolt, i usually make it ~16 hours on the stock battery

Welcome! I think you'll find that the X and Dinc are two entirely different experiences haha many of those issues you mentioned on the X are non-existent for most roms here.

SlimSnoopOS said:
Welcome! I think you'll find that the X and Dinc are two entirely different experiences haha many of those issues you mentioned on the X are non-existent for most roms here.
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Yeah, as I'm reading thru the forum posts, I'm starting to realize this lol.
To start with, the X had a Locked Kernal, which is probably the reason why the development tapered off so fast

watt9493 said:
everything will work. you can even undervolt, i usually make it ~16 hours on the stock battery
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With little/moderate/heavy use?
For my X to last that long, I would literally have to turn off GPS, Wifi, Data, Background data, Auto sync, etc lol
Basically what I'm saying is that I'm very impressed with everything I'm reading about the Incredible

If you are thinking about CM7 and want a more stable, smoother, more optimized ROM for Dinc, and also don't want the hassles of chasing nightlies, try "inc-deck-gingerbread."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119857
It's a CM7 clone... that is better than the official one from CM. The only real difference, as far as features, is that inc-deck comes with a vanilla launcher, instead of ADW launcher like CM has. Just install the launcher of your choice, if you don't want vanilla. I like Go launcher EX.
Incredikernel is what I use also.
mods (ones that I remember at least)
ext4 for all... normal data version
v6 supercharger... balanced

internecinehigh said:
With little/moderate/heavy use?
For my X to last that long, I would literally have to turn off GPS, Wifi, Data, Background data, Auto sync, etc lol
Basically what I'm saying is that I'm very impressed with everything I'm reading about the Incredible
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the inc is about a 1000x's better for hacking then all verizon motorola phones combined. lol. and give the latest cm7 nightly a try with the newest incredikernel. i can link you to ext4 mods, v6 supercharger and adrenalyne shot too.

Thanks for all the input guys, I've been learning a lot from these posts!
I used v6 Supercharger for a while with my X, but stopped using it because I never stayed on 1 rom for more than a couple days at a time and got so sick of setting it up every day lol.
I could just never find a rom that I could settle with because they all had their problems...
So other than OC/UV, what else are the benefits from IncrediKernal?
Also, My phone hasn't arrived yet, So I don't know which version of android or HBoot is on it yet, But is there anything In specific that I need to look for or that I need to know before I start to root?
And, with the X, We had what we called an "SBF", which basically was an un-brick for our phones. If our phones ever bricked or bootlooped after flashing anything, we just plugged our phones into the computer, booted into recovery mode, and "SBF'ed" back to stock. And basically, our phones went right back to stock, unrooted, bloated Froyo or Gingerbread, and we had a 2.3.340 file for Froyo that we could flash, and a 2.3.602 Gingerbread File.
So is there anything like that the Dinc?
Thanks again guys!
This is the kind of community that I was wishing the DX community was, and now I'm glad I'm gonna be apart of the Dinc Forums!

internecinehigh said:
Thanks for all the input guys, I've been learning a lot from these posts!
I used v6 Supercharger for a while with my X, but stopped using it because I never stayed on 1 rom for more than a couple days at a time and got so sick of setting it up every day lol.
I could just never find a rom that I could settle with because they all had their problems...
So other than OC/UV, what else are the benefits from IncrediKernal?
Also, My phone hasn't arrived yet, So I don't know which version of android or HBoot is on it yet, But is there anything In specific that I need to look for or that I need to know before I start to root?
And, with the X, We had what we called an "SBF", which basically was an un-brick for our phones. If our phones ever bricked or bootlooped after flashing anything, we just plugged our phones into the computer, booted into recovery mode, and "SBF'ed" back to stock. And basically, our phones went right back to stock, unrooted, bloated Froyo or Gingerbread, and we had a 2.3.340 file for Froyo that we could flash, and a 2.3.602 Gingerbread File.
So is there anything like that the Dinc?
Thanks again guys!
This is the kind of community that I was wishing the DX community was, and now I'm glad I'm gonna be apart of the Dinc Forums!
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well, its REALLY REALLY and i stress REALLLLLLLY hard to brick an incredible. the only way i know of is pulling battery while flashing radios or double flashing them. most stuff is recoverable via a RUU. ive never had to use one personally, because i dont ever mess with radios. but here is the website where all the hboots, sbf's and stuff are found.
http://pvillecomp.com/

I must say we have been a tight knit community since release date. Also:
Droid X: SBF = Droid Incredible: RUU

SlimSnoopOS said:
I must say we have been a tight knit community since release date. Also:
Droid X: SBF = Droid Incredible: RUU
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I love this phone and this (ever shrinking) incredible community. I will not upgrade for anything and will shed a tear the day my incredible dies.

cmlusco said:
I love this phone and this (ever shrinking) incredible community. I will not upgrade for anything and will shed a tear the day my incredible dies.
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lmao I can already tell you guys are gonna be a great group to work with, expect to hear A LOT from me
Thanks for the insight on the whole SBF/RUU deal
I'm familiar with ADB from my first two android phones, but NEVER used ADB once with my DX, so I'm a little rusty. Should I be worried about setting up my SDK and what not before I get my phone just to get it out of the way? or no?
Also, I was reading about Downgrading to S-off, and obviously I don't know what version of Android is on my Incredible until I get it, but is downgrading completely necessary for Root/Rom?
I'm guessing you guys also flash .zip's thru clockwork or rom manager?
I briefly had a samsung Fascinate that used Voodoo recovery instead of clockwork, Is why I ask.

POQbum said:
CM7 with incredikernel.
Or if you want it to be a little fancy with less tweaking and work involved, go MIUI and incrediknerel.
ICS is available, but doesn't run as well as the GB ROM's do.
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Agreed, CM7 with incredikernel. Stable & rock solid, so many customizations available. Tried out just about every ROM after getting bored of CM7, and always end up coming back before days end. Nothing better for this phone in my opinion.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk.

internecinehigh said:
lmao I can already tell you guys are gonna be a great group to work with, expect to hear A LOT from me
Thanks for the insight on the whole SBF/RUU deal
I'm familiar with ADB from my first two android phones, but NEVER used ADB once with my DX, so I'm a little rusty. Should I be worried about setting up my SDK and what not before I get my phone just to get it out of the way? or no?
Also, I was reading about Downgrading to S-off, and obviously I don't know what version of Android is on my Incredible until I get it, but is downgrading completely necessary for Root/Rom?
I'm guessing you guys also flash .zip's thru clockwork or rom manager?
I briefly had a samsung Fascinate that used Voodoo recovery instead of clockwork, Is why I ask.
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You dont really need the whole sdk, just adb, fastboot, and their drivers. You can pick that up here http://dinc.does-it.net/ADB/ADB-Fastboot-USB-Drivers_v4_(x86)(x64).zip. And here http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install is how to install the drivers if you dony already know.
You can get root and flash roms without being s-off, however you cant flash radios, hboots, or splash screens. I would highly recomend to do it anyways, as it makes your phone much easier to troubleshoot and fix if it were to break somehow in the future. It also makes it much easier to reroot should you need to do an ruu or somehow loose root.
Yes roms and mods are flashed thru cwm (prefered) or amon ra recovery, and ruus, hboots, radios, splash screens, and recoveries thru hboot.

cmlusco said:
I love this phone and this (ever shrinking) incredible community. I will not upgrade for anything and will shed a tear the day my incredible dies.
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I hear ya! I'm contemplating delaying my upgrade until late summer to see how things develop. All these upcoming phones have excellent specs minus battery capacity so I need to see what changes my mind. Not to mention, I've been checking out various other forums (GNex and Rezound) and many users just seem more argumentative and blatantly rude. I guess that comes with the increased user base.

SlimSnoopOS said:
I hear ya! I'm contemplating delaying my upgrade until late summer to see how things develop. All these upcoming phones have excellent specs minus battery capacity so I need to see what changes my mind. Not to mention, I've been checking out various other forums (GNex and Rezound) and many users just seem more argumentative and blatantly rude. I guess that comes with the increased user base.
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not a fan of the gnex community myself. The dinc people I know there rarely post.
Anyway. Love cm7 and I flashed cm 6.1 on my Inc using boot manager just for nostalgia tonight. Cm6.1 was my first custom ROM ever.
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cmlusco said:
You dont really need the whole sdk, just adb, fastboot, and their drivers. You can pick that up here http://dinc.does-it.net/ADB/ADB-Fastboot-USB-Drivers_v4_(x86)(x64).zip. And here http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install is how to install the drivers if you dony already know.
You can get root and flash roms without being s-off, however you cant flash radios, hboots, or splash screens. I would highly recomend to do it anyways, as it makes your phone much easier to troubleshoot and fix if it were to break somehow in the future. It also makes it much easier to reroot should you need to do an ruu or somehow loose root.
Yes roms and mods are flashed thru cwm (prefered) or amon ra recovery, and ruus, hboots, radios, splash screens, and recoveries thru hboot.
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Sweet thanks for all the input guys! All these links and info definitely help and are making my life a whole lot easier lol
The only reason I didnt buy a newer phone is because I'm so sick of the big ass screens and what not on them, that was one of the main things I hated about my DX. But, I'm enjoying the community here and I don't even have the phone yet lol, it should be here tomorrow I can't wait!
So tell me, is there any bugs on CM7 that you've found? Or is it perfect? What's your favorite tweaks? Do you guys have unthrottle mods? And Voltages/ frequencys are your over clocks at? Do you prefer setcpu/quick clock/rom toolbox, etc?
Thanks again guys

internecinehigh said:
Sweet thanks for all the input guys! All these links and info definitely help and are making my life a whole lot easier lol
The only reason I didnt buy a newer phone is because I'm so sick of the big ass screens and what not on them, that was one of the main things I hated about my DX. But, I'm enjoying the community here and I don't even have the phone yet lol, it should be here tomorrow I can't wait!
So tell me, is there any bugs on CM7 that you've found? Or is it perfect? What's your favorite tweaks? Do you guys have unthrottle mods? And Voltages/ frequencys are your over clocks at? Do you prefer setcpu/quick clock/rom toolbox, etc?
Thanks again guys
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The only thing that doesn't work in cm7 that I'd wish worked is 720p video. I can live without. To set voltage, most use an app called incredicontrol. Overclocking is built into cm7. Iamtheonetheycallneo has a flashable voltage script, that lowers the voltages for the high and low voltage part of the frequency.
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