Related
So talking to my buddy about all the "junk" loaded on the Samsung, he kept raving about how his old Nexus One was just the way I would like it. I would like to have a "plain" version of Android 2.1 on my phone. I have a coworker friend that's a Linux guru that's willing to help. Here's my questions.
Can I take take the Samsung released source for the hardware drivers and compile it with a stock Android 2.1 platform? I'm not asking for step by step. More of a 10,000 foot how to. Is that possible?
Can you leave the CSC and Modem info the same and just install a PDA ROM with Odin? Or would you be overwriting all of that info on the phone?
Thanks and if this has been answered before, please fill free to say "search is your friend" and give me the links...
hallfleming said:
So talking to my buddy about all the "junk" loaded on the Samsung, he kept raving about how his old Nexus One was just the way I would like it. I would like to have a "plain" version of Android 2.1 on my phone. I have a coworker friend that's a Linux guru that's willing to help. Here's my questions.
Can I take take the Samsung released source for the hardware drivers and compile it with a stock Android 2.1 platform? I'm not asking for step by step. More of a 10,000 foot how to. Is that possible?
Can you leave the CSC and Modem info the same and just install a PDA ROM with Odin? Or would you be overwriting all of that info on the phone?
Thanks and if this has been answered before, please fill free to say "search is your friend" and give me the links...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I unfortunately haven't the answer but I'd like to add that I am curious about this too.
dalingrin said:
I unfortunately haven't the answer but I'd like to add that I am curious about this too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll second this and ask that if you do figure it out, please share with the community.
I think that vanilla Roms are a little further away in the future. First step in the process right now would be for someone to be able to compile a kernel from the Samsung released source code that works. Unfortunately the current Captivate kernel source code, when compiled, causes issues (voices garbled, lag when waking up the phone) that are not present in the stock precompiled kernel. These bugs are apparently not present in the other versions of the source code. Once these initial bugs are ironed out, we can truly start down the path of having custom fixes, and the devs can start to focus on bigger challenges, like making the vanilla Eclair or Froyo Roms to start working with our kernel. Good thing about this phone is that there are going to be so many versions of it, that parallel development is happening on multiple platforms. This will likely produce independent breakthroughs that could be theoretically ported between the platforms, but unfortunately it also slows down the development of each platform due to the quirks that have to be overcome. I hope that, in the future, we get to a place where all the source codes are merged into master repository that has all the necessary improvements and the ability to overcome individual platform quirks, so that the development can proceed more rapidly.
hallfleming said:
So talking to my buddy about all the "junk" loaded on the Samsung, he kept raving about how his old Nexus One was just the way I would like it. I would like to have a "plain" version of Android 2.1 on my phone. I have a coworker friend that's a Linux guru that's willing to help. Here's my questions.
Can I take take the Samsung released source for the hardware drivers and compile it with a stock Android 2.1 platform? I'm not asking for step by step. More of a 10,000 foot how to. Is that possible?
Can you leave the CSC and Modem info the same and just install a PDA ROM with Odin? Or would you be overwriting all of that info on the phone?
Thanks and if this has been answered before, please fill free to say "search is your friend" and give me the links...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check out this wiki from cyanogen:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
On the bottom right you will see an advanced section that explains how to build from source code. (aosp)
Good luck!!! It's definitely not for me, not with kids and a full time job!
Good info. I haven't seen a post on people testing out the source code testing and their experience. Can you IM or point me to that?
Thanks!
rajendra82 said:
I think that vanilla Roms are a little further away in the future. First step in the process right now would be for someone to be able to compile a kernel from the Samsung released source code that works. Unfortunately the current Captivate kernel source code, when compiled, causes issues (voices garbled, lag when waking up the phone) that are not present in the stock precompiled kernel. These bugs are apparently not present in the other versions of the source code. Once these initial bugs are ironed out, we can truly start down the path of having custom fixes, and the devs can start to focus on bigger challenges, like making the vanilla Eclair or Froyo Roms to start working with our kernel. Good thing about this phone is that there are going to be so many versions of it, that parallel development is happening on multiple platforms. This will likely produce independent breakthroughs that could be theoretically ported between the platforms, but unfortunately it also slows down the development of each platform due to the quirks that have to be overcome. I hope that, in the future, we get to a place where all the source codes are merged into master repository that has all the necessary improvements and the ability to overcome individual platform quirks, so that the development can proceed more rapidly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also for clarification, when you bought a Nexus One straight from Google for AT&T, was it considered "Vanilla"? Is the build on that phone just like someone downloaded the source for 2.1 and compiled it with the hardware drivers and that's it? I'm wondering what all comes on a "basic" Andriod ROM straight from the source.
hallfleming said:
Also for clarification, when you bought a Nexus One straight from Google for AT&T, was it considered "Vanilla"? Is the build on that phone just like someone downloaded the source for 2.1 and compiled it with the hardware drivers and that's it? I'm wondering what all comes on a "basic" Andriod ROM straight from the source.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nexus One is as Vanilla as it comes. Just straight up Android! I don't think there is anything added to stock 2.1 or 2.2 on the Nexus.
hallfleming said:
Good info. I haven't seen a post on people testing out the source code testing and their experience. Can you IM or point me to that?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most of the kernel compiling struggles are documented here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740747
Mimocan himself has started some work on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747040
There are also people having success mixing Vibrant ROM on the Captivate with some GPS crash issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746466
I am trying to follow those threads, and since I am not a developer, I can't personally contribute to the process. But it is interesting to me anyway.
I've seen these before. I thought they were just edited versions of ROM's sucked off a existing phone. Are these compiled from scratch?
rajendra82 said:
Most of the kernel compiling struggles are documented here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740747
Mimocan himself has started some work on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747040
There are also people having success mixing Vibrant ROM on the Captivate with some GPS crash issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746466
I am trying to follow those threads, and since I am not a deveoper, I can't personally contribute to the process. But it is interesting to me anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hallfleming said:
I've seen these before. I thought they were just edited versions of ROM's sucked off a existing phone. Are these compiled from scratch?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The first two are attempts to recompile the kernel to put in the ext3/ext4 mimocan fix. The third one I believe is a script for boot logo animation hack to achieve the same thing.
I forgot to mention one more thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739823
So we've got the source code with drivers and know which ones to use from the T959 for fixing the voice issue. We've got the stock kernel. What's left to creat a plain jane captivate?
hallfleming said:
So we've got the source code with drivers and know which ones to use from the T959 for fixing the voice issue. We've got the stock kernel. What's left to creat a plain jane captivate?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm guessing not too much. There are somethings that would need to be edited such as handling the capacitive buttons. The i9000 roms handle buttons differently regardless of the kernel so, its apparently an OS level config.
I've been wanting to work on this but I've been neck deep in source code from work.
Here is a good how to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704561
Thanks for the link. The US codes out there so we don't need i9000 port
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
hallfleming said:
Thanks for the link. The US codes out there so we don't need i9000 port
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My point was that given the I9000 rom needs source level changes in order to work as expected(haptic feedback on certain buttons, etc) then running an AOSP build may require some source level changes as well. It may not be as simple as building and flashing.
I am extremely appreciative of all the great strides you Chefs are making in updating builds, however, there is often no option to download a non-themed version of the aforementioned builds. If it isn't too much to ask, is there any way you could include instructions on how to return the build to a stock look or an alternate download for a stock version of the build? I hope I don't get flamed and apologize if I am asking too much. Otherwise, keep up the good work in keeping our HD2s as a large presence in the smartphone world!
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
hefelfury said:
I am extremely appreciative of all the great strides you Chefs are making in updating builds, however, there is often no option to download a non-themed version of the aforementioned builds. If it isn't too much to ask, is there any way you could include instructions on how to return the build to a stock look or an alternate download for a stock version of the build? I hope I don't get flamed and apologize if I am asking too much. Otherwise, keep up the good work in keeping our HD2s as a large presence in the smartphone world!
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are plenty of *stock* builds in the android development section, you just have to search through the forum...
Here is a link to one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924, I literally just opend up the forum and looked at the first build and there you go... A stock build.
I am very aware of this, I am referring more to the chefs that theme a previously stock in appearance build, but don't leave the option of downloading the stock version of the build after they update it .
I should have been more specific, I suppose, however, seeing as this was a humble request for developers, the question doesn't pertain to you anyways.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
hefelfury said:
I am very aware of this, I am referring more to the chefs that theme a previously stock in appearance build, but don't leave the option of downloading the stock version of the build after they update it .
I should have been more specific, I suppose, however, seeing as this was a humble request for developers, the question doesn't pertain to you anyways.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And like I said there are plenty of stock builds out there. A stock build is a stock build regardless of who it comes from. The Devs do enough already.
So everybody knows, I have taken over as one of the Moderators for this forum.
Feel free to PM for questions,
Hit the report button if it's something you think I should take a look at.
Pax
EDIT FROM Moscow Desire,
Pax is now retired from FSM Duties. :crying:
MD
paxChristos said:
So everybody knows, I have taken over as one of the Moderators for this forum.
Feel free to PM for questions,
Hit the report button if it's something you think I should take a look at.
Pax
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome great job thanks for being a mod;-)
Welcome~!
welcome
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711137
can u look at this thread and see if the thors kernel was ever present if it was fine if not can we get the thread reopened AOKP would be another good option for roms for the tablet.
Timelord83 said:
welcome
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711137
can u look at this thread and see if the thors kernel was ever present if it was fine if not can we get the thread reopened AOKP would be another good option for roms for the tablet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why not just go get it from rootzwiki if you want it so bad?
bfranklin1986 said:
Why not just go get it from rootzwiki if you want it so bad?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll stick to XDA. Not everyone on here has social skills to participate in forum discussions but i find that this site has much more information and the groups of people are more eager to help troubleshoot. by unlocking the thread if its not thors kernel it opens it up to ALL of xda to help.
Timelord83 said:
I'll stick to XDA. Not everyone on here has social skills to participate in forum discussions but i find that this site has much more information and the groups of people are more eager to help troubleshoot. by unlocking the thread if its not thors kernel it opens it up to ALL of xda to help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure how many actually remember the events relating to this earlier this year... But it was a mess.
Thor decided to start developing a ICS rom providing (presumably under apache2) the device/vender tree to the build. Just two little tidbits were, how to say, off with his approach.
a) The device tree included his kernel still without the source code (so now we have some apache2 code.. nice but not required, and its poisoned with a closed source kernel)
b) he provided links to the github repo (now deleted and/or hidden) on XDA via adfly.
After this was reported, XDA closed the thread, Thor took down the git repo and tried to pan this off to his greater followers (probably successfully) as XDA not even allowing him in when him to work here even when his code is "open".
--
While the source was open blazingwolf, ProTekk, randomblame (and some others?) managed to get the repo and clone it (or parts of it) into their own projects.. Mostly with little or no credit, and not always properly removing all traces of Thors kernel (either the main kernel was replaced with blazingwolfs open kernel, but a second copy of Thors kernel in the repo was left, or they just used thors kernel as it existed in the device tree).
In addition to this there was a recovery that used blazingwolf's kernel but otherwise was a nearly unmodified thor recovery binary (simply a hex edit to change the title, and thus hide the upstream source)
--
AOKP is now using the CM9 base for the device and vender trees, so everything including the CM9 T20 kernel is open source. However I its up to the AOKP team to re-post here at this point and not someone just wanting a mirror with their own unrelated donate link.
Some locked threads to remember in relationship to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353252 - ProTekk bit of ICS locked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426617 - randomblame recovery - locked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524919 - original A500 AOPK thread - locked
Just to clear this up, roms are under Apache v2 license (which doesn't require source release) kernels are under GPL which does require source release.
Sent from my R800x using Tapatalk 2
ezterry said:
I'm not sure how many actually remember the events relating to this earlier this year... But it was a mess.
Thor decided to start developing a ICS rom providing (presumably under apache2) the device/vender tree to the build. Just two little tidbits were, how to say, off with his approach.
a) The device tree included his kernel still without the source code (so now we have some apache2 code.. nice but not required, and its poisoned with a closed source kernel)
b) he provided links to the github repo (now deleted and/or hidden) on XDA via adfly.
After this was reported, XDA closed the thread, Thor took down the git repo and tried to pan this off to his greater followers (probably successfully) as XDA not even allowing him in when him to work here even when his code is "open".
--
While the source was open blazingwolf, ProTekk, randomblame (and some others?) managed to get the repo and clone it (or parts of it) into their own projects.. Mostly with little or no credit, and not always properly removing all traces of Thors kernel (either the main kernel was replaced with blazingwolfs open kernel, but a second copy of Thors kernel in the repo was left, or they just used thors kernel as it existed in the device tree).
In addition to this there was a recovery that used blazingwolf's kernel but otherwise was a nearly unmodified thor recovery binary (simply a hex edit to change the title, and thus hide the upstream source)
--
AOKP is now using the CM9 base for the device and vender trees, so everything including the CM9 T20 kernel is open source. However I its up to the AOKP team to re-post here at this point and not someone just wanting a mirror with their own unrelated donate link.
Some locked threads to remember in relationship to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353252 - ProTekk bit of ICS locked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426617 - randomblame recovery - locked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524919 - original A500 AOPK thread - locked
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sadly i do but the thread i linked is albeit messy with side stuff i made the assumption it was mod locked. after talking with the other people i have foudn out that the OP requested it be locked. i went and got the rom from AOKP website and as far as i can tell is Thor free and i run clockwork recovery and V8 ICS bootloader.
As for the motives for my request is i'd like to see more roms succeed for this tablet as it is "old" tech people are moving to the tegra 3 Tabs i am not ready to give up on my $567.87 less than year old purchase. I own the A501 ATT 4G LTE Variant i bought it from ATT without contract hence the price
Uhm... Hi paxChristos! Welcome to our slightly disfunctional family! I hope that you have a great time.:silly:
Timelord83 said:
As for the motives for my request is i'd like to see more roms succeed for this tablet as it is "old" tech people are moving to the tegra 3 Tabs i am not ready to give up on my $567.87 less than year old purchase. I own the A501 ATT 4G LTE Variant i bought it from ATT without contract hence the price
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As do we all (want larger choices in roms).
But there-in lies the issue. We have an AOKP rom that has been through many hands, and at times, had some suspicious coding involved. Including getting closed on more than 1 occassion due to shady practices and non-GPL kernels. Might have been 3 seperate roms for all we know.
To post the rom now, would probably piss off quite a few people if enough credits were not given, even if the kernel proved to be legit. And even then, you would have several people claiming the rom was theirs and they were the original authors. That's the nature of these "KANG" roms and "MIUI" roms.
Well, we have polluted PaxChristo's welcome thread enough for now. I suggest we give it a rest, and probably open a new thread in the General Forum. I'll DL and install it, and see what's up with it. Post some results later.
MD
good job
paxChristos said:
So everybody knows, I have taken over as one of the Moderators for this forum.
Feel free to PM for questions,
Hit the report button if it's something you think I should take a look at.
Pax
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
t my a500wondering where to post question about how to root my tab. Sadly it is running 3.2 honey and I am very confused as what to do to get it rooted. I am in southern Louisiana, maybe there are folks close to me that could help.
Thanks everyone don
Hey thanks for being a mod' it is a lot of work I know. Listen I am knew as I just go
Why is there TWO developemnt threads. Which is the one to use. Very confusing.
because this makes it easier to find which kind of development your searching for as original mean AOSP,GM9 , KERNELS, miui and other original stuffs and not only zipedited roms like touchwiz roms where the rom maker just added stuff they liked without buildning from scratch
It was done to separate real development threads from photoshop and winzip roms.
Read this: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
And deal with it.
I don't like it, in my opinion. Real dev threads were naturally on the top of the development forums, its not like you had to go digging. Now its just multiple clicks to check on what ROMs are available and adds more forums to the 120341230123 amount of forums on XDA.
wanna know the difference with some funny screenshots? here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
better stick with original. here is trueeeeeee developer.
ascariz said:
better stick with original. here is trueeeeeee developer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wrong logic mate!! both developers/cookers contribute to the community just in a different way...
Why checkrom evohd v3 is in original android dev section? It's samsung based rom!
There is only one original and that is Cyanogenmod (they build from scratch). The rest are samsung or CM9 derivates. Correct me if i am wrong
gee2012 said:
There is only one original and that is Cyanogenmod (they build from scratch). The rest are samsung or CM9 derivates. Correct me if i am wrong
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope AOKP is also built from source like Cyanogenmod..
Wait... AOKP should be in the original section..I think
gee2012 said:
There is only one original and that is Cyanogenmod (they build from scratch). The rest are samsung or CM9 derivates. Correct me if i am wrong
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're mostly right, but it's difficult where to draw the line. AFAIK AOKP for instance, also uses the AOSP source code, but incorporates many (if not all) CM9 features. So, is it based on CM9 or AOSP? You see what I mean?
I think it's safe to say that the original developers build their stuff from source (either pure AOSP or CM9 as a base), whereas most other developers use winzip (or extract APK's, but not using the source code). That's why I can understand why Checkrom is in the original section (using a self-made OTA tool). But it's mostly subjective and difficult to judge what goes where...
It is only confusing when it seems that certain roms should be in the opposite section and vice versa.
Nabobalis said:
It is only confusing when it seems that certain roms should be in the opposite section and vice versa.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
most of the kitchen roms will end up in original section as it has something unique apart from the samsung rom stuffs
123shree said:
Nope AOKP is also built from source like Cyanogenmod..
Wait... AOKP should be in the original section..I think
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AOKp on our sgs3 is dead
It would be nice if they were named . AOSP based Development, Samsung based development. The mix is all wrong at the moment.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Why is this thread in a development section?
Should be in general
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Moved to General, there is a portal post here about the issue.
Keep the discussion on topic and civilized and this thread will stay open.
Running make doesn't make (heh) your work original.
So if I went and grabbed the CM9 repo and built it my subsequent ROM wouldn't be original. If I'd made lots of changes to the source code then built it, it would be original.
How is it you lot struggle with what the word "original" means, I don't get it.
As for whichever idiot said "IT'S TOO MUNNY CLICKZ", what? It's one extra click you numpty.
CheckROM should be in Original. Why? Apart from being the first to materialize Kitchen on ROMS (Kudos to Leomar), the team do also have its own Kernel which is the DarkKnight.
HTC Desire Z & T-Mobile G2 Help Thread
Welcome to the HTC Vision help thread! You can ask all questions here without the need of background knowledge. This thread is dedicated to solve users problems, so if you don't want to start a new thread for your question, ask it here! Members ready to help will be monitoring this thread and provide answers as soon as possible. To see a list of supporters, see here
List of Supporters@_MarcoMarinho_ How A ROM Works - Inside and Out!
@BIade - Modder and Manipulator!
@demkantor - All Things Vision! ADB and Fastboot Expert!
@fireball0093 - ROM Flashing Extraordinaire!
@guhl99 - Android savant - the more obscure the question the more likely knows the answer!
@HTCDreamOn - Kernels and Themeing and more!
@NeverGone\RU - Source Building Genius!
@Nipqer - Knows the HTC Vision Inside and Out!
@rirozizo - Battery Guru & all-around-android-guy!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Supporters: If you want to be put on or off the list, just send me a PM!
To those seeking help: Please don't bombard the supporters with PMs asking for help. Instead, ask your question here in the thread so others can benefit from the solution to your problem as well. If you want to be sure someone particular gets notified of your question, put his / her username directly after an @ like above. Also, if you have ROM related questions, post in the relevant ROM Q&A thread (if there is one) or directly in the ROM development thread. If you are not eligible of posting there, you may post here. And Please Read Post #5 Before Anything Else! Thank you!
ROM developers: Please read this. Consider if you want to have a ROM specific help thread or not, if not, most likely questions about your ROM will be asked here if the users aren't eligible for posting in development section.
To all of you: Remember the Rules and the Forum Etiquette
[FAQs][Guide To The HTC Vision] Root, Modify and More!!!--{January 2014}--
BIG Thanks to the entire XDA community for keeping so many phones alive and active!
This guide will be an attempt to help both new and seasoned users to navigate this forum.
*please use this thread to search for your answers, post questions and comments here. DO NOT create a new thread before searching out an answer!
In The Beginning There Was Root
There are many ways to root your G2/DZ but only one method you should use, if your phone has never been rooted use the method shown here.
If you already rooted your phone with a different method I highly suggest reversing it and following the proper steps.
THE XDA WIKI Will answer questions about your phone plus give you an easy to follow rooting guide
But before you can root chances are you need to downgrade first THIS GUIDE will help you do just that
If you are having issues then consider one of these two other guides, both use gfree to exploit and essentially are the same guide, but written differently, use what works for you.
STRAWMETAL'S ALL IN ONE PDF GUIDE
or
CYANOGEN GUIDE TO DOWNGRADE then CYANOGEN GUIDE TO ROOT
Mirror If You Can't Find Needed Files
For T-Mobile G2 Variant
*If requested I will add a link for Desire Z variant as well
And of course before you root your phone be sure to understand how to reverse this procedure and return to stock, thanks to nipqer for this
GUIDE ON HOW TO RETURN TO STOCK
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now You Are Rooted... What Is Next?
For some the rooting process was a breeze, others learned new curse words to use toward their computer. Either way many find what to do next just as difficult as it were for them to root.
Riro Zizo MADE THIS GUIDE to help anyone confused after they gained root access. There are more than just ROM flashing tips so please read on...
Between ROM Flashes be sure to create a nandroid backup then wipe cleanly.
fastboot erase system -w is my preferred method, but I'm a bit OCD about wiping so also consider these tools (and wipe in recovery)
ALL IN ONE Wipe Tool
Supe Handy SuperWipe Tool
Now there are many modifications you can do to your phone, and we are lucky to have one with so many options! Here are some options that for the most part are not ROM dependent.
Adding Linux Swap (understand this isnt always the best thing for your phone)
Easy AROMA Installer for SD or Data Swap and SD EXT
Manually Setting Up Swap
Super Charging same caveat as swap...
Original Supercharger Thread
A Little More Help on Supercharging
Some Misc Scripts
PIMP MY ROM
CrossBreeder
Direct Injection Turbo
Project Xtreame
UNI-init.d
Ad-Blocking
ROM Cleaner
Changing Splash Screen and Bootanimations
Simple Aroma Installer Simply flash in recovery and choose what you like!
Or Make Your Own Splash Screen - ANOTHER HERE
Learn to create Bootanimations Yourself!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ADB & FASTBOOT a MUST for Android Users!
There is much to learn about both tools, so if you are unfamiliar at least skim through these.
If you are an Android Ninja it may still be worth your while...
Setup and Usage
How To + Why To fastboot setup and the reasons you need it!
A little more info on Fastboot
Portable Guide
Another Helpful ADB Guide
There is Lots to Learn about ADB
Very Handy Simple Windows Installer
There is much to learn but so long as you have an understanding you can survive the cruelties of Android. Feel free to ask any ADB or Fastboot related questions here as well!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Radios, GPS, and More!
Changing Radios can be a huge performance boost to both cellular reception and battery life. Consider reading these few threads.
Suggest Links To Read Through
Lists of almost all Radios for the Vision
Info on lib-rils (Android Version Dependent)
A bit more info
WIFI Calling Info (still no WiFi calling in Jelly Bean!)
Very Helpful GPS Patch
More GPS Info
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bootloader, Hboot, SPL
The terms are interchangeable and all are to be thought of as BIOS for windows. Okay, not the same but an easy analogy :silly:
*There are many to choose from but you should only have one of two
The Desire Z Engineering Hboot or the G2 Engineering Hboot
There are a few ways to change bootloaders, recovery, fastboot or with a PC10IMG.zip
**Whenever you flash firmware fastboot is the SAFEST method
If you haven't read up on Fastboot yet PLEASE DO
Here is a (possibly incomplete) list of all bootladers for the Vision
-0.85.0005 (published together with the ROM 1.34.405.5)
-0.85.0008 (published together with the ROM 1.72.405.2)
-0.85.0009 (published together with the ROM 1.82.161.1)
-0.85.0013 (published together with the ROM 2.42.405.2)
-0.82.0000 - stock/ship
-0.82.0008 - stock/ship
-0.76.2000 - T-Mobile G2 Engineering Bootloader
-0.84.2000 - HTC Desire Z Engineering Bootloader
Sense ROMs need the Desire Z Hboot again see HERE On How To
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Recoveries... Which is best for you?
I hate answering "which is best" questions so I wont :cyclops: But I will say 4ext recovery has the most options
4ext Touch Recovery
4ext Classic Recovery
4ext Info page for all Android Devices
ClockworkMod Touch Recovery
Original ClockworkMod Recovery
More Info on ClockworkMod Recovery
Latest CWM Recovery
TWRP
More Info On TWRP
Stock Recovery For The Vision
There are also others for different Android devices, such as Amon_Ra, Cyanogen, JesusFreak, Cannibal, to name a few.
If you want to see any more to pick from talk to the developer or create your own! Lots of info on how to
Having issues flashing newer ROMs? SEE HERE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kernels for the Vision
Jelly Bean and ICS
AlterNdromadus
EliteKernel - ICS
Exclusive PachaKernel
AndromadusMod
Gingerbread
Tiamat kernel 1.1.4
ILWT v1.8.1
EliteKernel - GB
TurboCharged
EternityPRJ Kernel
coolbho3000 Kernel
Exclusive PachaKernel
pershoot Kernel
Dekar kernel
UmaroKernel
Sense
Hushi Kernel
Virtuous Kernel
Advanced Sense Kernel
UNITY V9
Exclusive PachaKernel
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Reading For Your Pleasure!
One of the most important things you should do to become a true XDA member is search and read. Neither I will teach you to do... but start here!
Important Brick Info!
Main thread for all brick related Questions And Answers
Poll on emmc serial #'s
E:Cant mount /cache/recovery
When all Else Fails Boot From SD
Another Boot From SD Option
Some Did You Knows...
Did you know you can run pure Linux on an Android? Debian on your Vision! - How about Ubuntu!
Did You know you can fix that weak hinge? Read Here - And Another
Did you know you can remap your keys? One of Many Keyboard Remaps - How about for your Headset?
Did you know you can change your Screen Density? Manual Method (there are many apps too!)
Did you know you can increase your headset volume? Try not to damage your ears! - This is nice too
Did you know you can increase SD card Read/Write Speed Indeed this works!
Did you know you can add trackpad wake? For ROMs Without tpwake included
Did you know there is an entire section devoted to accessories? In other words please go hear for Q&A on SD cards, Cases, Screen Protectors, etc.
Did you know you don't need to download apps from the market? Of course you did, but how nice is this!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ROMs, ROMs, and More ROMs!
Just About Every ROM Ever Made...
*Key
AOSP
CYANOGEN
SENSE
AOKP
SLIM
PARANOID
Miscellaneous
MIUI
PAC Man
Gingerbread ROMs
[01/21/2014]coolOS GB 1.7.0 (MIUIv3) @coolos
[08/22/2013]CyanMobile X @demkantor
[07/26/2013]ILWT CM7 @tsubus
[04/03/2013]Sense-Ionic @ajhavery
[02/03/2013]Backdroid CM7.2 @Riro Zizo
[12/30/2012]The Family Absolution @Riro Zizo
[11/23/2012]Sense Minima @strawmetal
[08/06/2012]EliteMod CM7 @nik3r
[07/26/2012]Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ Sense 3.5 @NRGZ28
[07/03/2012]Gen.Y Vision @yozgatg
[06/17/2012]Strawmetal.CM7.2 @strawmetal
[06/17/2012]InsertCoin_Vision @siulmagic
[06/03/2012]Strawmetal.Mi @strawmetal
[05/22/2012]Android Revolution HD™ @napior
[05/11/2012]Android Revolution HD™ @qriozum
[05/11/2012]Runny Xtreme Surprise @..Cory..
[05/05/2012]LightSense 1.2 @nagash91
[04/13/2012]RunnyMede Xtreme v2 @XxXPachaXxX
[03/31/2012]miXdroidMod Miui @noob15
[02/13/2012]MIUI - PyroMod @blahbl4hblah
[01/21/2012]Desire_Gingerbread_Sense @siulmagic
[12/21/2011]WP7.0.2 Vision Edition @mmmcfc
[12/12/2011]Virtuous G-Lite @tun4f1sh
[09/26/2011]Virtuous Unity @cjward23
[09/24/2011]NIGHTLY CyanogenMod 7 for Vision @Mikey
[08/22/2011]myVision - 2.3.4 myTouch port @bsbokc
[07/18/2011]Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 @rmk40
[06/04/2011]Senseless Romeo @siulmagic
[01/31/2011]CM7 - PyroMod @blahbl4hblah
WWE_2.42.405.4 Rooted StockROM @Runner85sx
BBQ CyanogenMod-7 @cyanogen
Pure English AOSP MIUI @miui-us
MildWild CM @Riro Zizo
COREDROID DESIRE Z @Sergio76
Sense Revolution Incredible @The Android Manual
Android SpeedDaemon Fantasia @AndreS93
-=BlackICEv1.60=- @Riro Zizo
CoreDroid Vision GB @siulmagic
Desire HD Sense @adakaya1994
LeeDrOiD_HD @xT4Z1N4TRx
Synergy @siulmagic
Vision Gingerbread Sense 2.42.405.2-WWE @hawst
XperiaSense 1.2 @xT4Z1N4TRx
RunnyDrOiD @alirez_sos
Desire_S_G2_Port_Sense2.1 @siulmagic
G2 Slim v1.6 -- OTA 2.16.531.5 @s14mc
SmartDroid @desidunda
BeatMod BlissSense Hybrid @zFr3eak
JoyOS PORT IphoneUI @johrie
Official DZ shipped ROM - Arabic
Colorized CM 7 for G2/DZ @mbush78
BinDroid RUNMED2.5 V1.6 @DutchDanny
LewaOS 1.0 @g1doobie
Virtuous Doubleshot @eViL D:
DualSense @VaderSKN
CyanogenMod-7.1 for G2/DZ @cyanogen
InfernoSense v5 @saranhai
k2c_GingerBread @shadyx513
CyanogenMod 7 for the HTC Vision @CyanogenMod
Pyramid3D @samuel2706
T-Mobile G2 Stock Rooted @rr5678
MIUI_OsiMood @CarpeNoctem
Vision-Desire-HD-Sense 3.0 @siulmagic
XboarderMOD @xboarder56
BeatMod FlyDom @zFr3eak
UNOFFICIAL CyanogenMod 7.2 @g4rb4g3
LIGUX v3.2Beta2 @ablivian
DianXin OS PORT @xT4Z1N4TRx
Xperia_Vision @siulmagic
MikRunny v1.01 @aamikam
Stock w/root, odex and deodex post-OTA @fastludeh22
BlissDrOiD By PVTEAM @alirez_sos
Mini Mi @Bigt2003
SenseMOD Lite V2.1 @djpbx
Sensored Blizzard : HD Ice Vanilla @82_Z28
UNOFFICIAL CM7 G2/Vision Kang's @rhcp0112345
Virtuous G-Lite v1.0.3 @rmk40
IceandFire 2.1 @iceandfire
Vision Gingerbread 2.15.231.3 Rooted @spookievision
SuperCM7 G2 @htcclay
Virtuous Codename: Trentacinque @cjward23
Pure/Stock Gingerbread 2.3.3 @xboarder56
G2 Bliss v1.0.1 - Stock 2.3.4 OTA Update @skmpowdjy
ModwithouttheCyan @tlytkine
Vision-RunnyMede-Sense 3.5 @siulmagic
Mod without the Cyan @tlytkine
MIUI for Vision, formerly known as Q'n'D-MIUI @g4rb4g3
T-Mobile G2 Stock Rooted @rr5678
TeamVillain presents...GingerVillain @nprussell
NO SENSE HTC Vision Stock ROM @paulobrien
Vision-Bliss-Sense 3.5 @siulmagic
Sense Paradox @siulmagic
Droid_X_Vision_Gingerbread @siulmagic
BeatMod FlyerSense @zFr3eak
HoneySenseHD @xT4Z1N4TRx
MIUI Portugal @IoDa00
MIUI-darkspadez @darkspadez
MIUI (v1.4.29) @tun4f1sh
Vision Aosp Stock Based @siulmagic
Vision_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.13.531.8 @siulmagic
TeamVillain presents...SenseGinger @HomerSp
MIUI-Bread 1.5.13 : Ganii-Mod-DE/EN @Ganii
(unofficial) CM#7.1.6.1 CUSTOMIXED CM MOD @B6gSix
Senseless_Desire (sense gone) @siulmagic
Virtuous Fusion @rmk40
Shokouhi_Saga_G2_Gingerbread_Sense_2.0 @shokouhi
Unofficial CM7 Nightlies @G1ForFun
TMOUS G2 Gingerbread 2.13.531.5 @rmk40
RMK's DZ/G2 Doubleshot (Sense 3 + Espresso) @rmk40
DZ/G2 Sensation Sense @rmk40
iSensationHD SENSE HD @Moody
Desire_HD_Gingerbread_Sense @siulmagic
iNxS CM7-RC2 @Moody
Vision Sense 1.85.73.2 Untouched @rmk40
GingerMod Sleek Edition @troby1986
Frozen Yogurt ROMs yes there are some...
[05/03/2011]Warm-Z-TwoPointTwo-Vision @siulmagic
[04/05/2011]Incredible_S_G2 @siulmagic
[03/17/2011]Droid_Incredible_2_G2 @siulmagic
[03/04/2011]MEMRoid Z ROM @mamat847
[03/01/2011]LiquidM_Villain @siulmagic
[02/10/2011]WITH SENSE: HTC Vision G2/Z MoDaCo Custom ROM @paulobrien
[12/24/2010]Enomther's TheOfficial G2/DZ @enomther
[12/21/2010]eViL's One Stop ROM Shop @eViL D:
[12/15/2010]CyanogenMod-6.1 for Vision @cyanogen
[11/29/2010]VillainROMZ & SuperVillainZ @nprussell
[11/29/2010]VillainROMZ & SuperVillainZ for the G2/DZ @nprussell
[11/20/2010]VillainROM Presents...Villision NO SENSE @nprussell
Miscellaneous ROMs As in a separate category...
[07/26/2013]Ubuntu Touch @utopykzebulon
[10/11/2012]SliMusic @Riro Zizo
[03/06/2011]Honeycomb_sdk_G2_port @siulmagic
Official G2/DZ shipped ROMs More Here
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ROMs, ROMs, and More ROMs!
ROMs for the Vision
*NEVER ask which ROM is best - This is a purely subjunctive question and will get a purely subjunctive answer (not too mention start flame wars)
Having said that there are lots to choose from, pick one, do a nandroid, wipe fully, flash ROM and anything else required (gapps, mods, kernel, etc)
CLICK HERE to see ROMs in action! be sure to thank fireball0093 for this!
*Key
AOSP
CYANOGEN
SENSE
AOKP
SLIM
PARANOID
Miscellaneous
MIUI
PAC Man
KitKat ROMs
[06/25/2014]PureKat @_MarcoMarinho_
[03/23/2014]Andomadus - CM11 - Flinny's Build @Flinny
[02/23/2014]AOSB Project @_MarcoMarinho_
[02/15/2014]Permission Spoofing CM11 @guhl99
[12/03/2013]Andromadus CM11 - NeverGone's Build @NeverGone\RU
Jelly Bean ROMs
[03/09/2014]AlterNdromadus @HTCDreamOn
[12/21/2013]4.3.1 - Jelly Mod @masterleron
[12/03/2013]Andromadus - CM10.2 @NeverGone\RU
[11/18/2013]UNOFFICIAL MIUI V5 @santajin
[10/28/2013]Andromadus Permission Spoofing CM10.1 @guhl99
[09/21/2013]Jelly Baby @masterleron
[08/23/2013]Andromadus - CM10.1 @Flinny
[07/08/2013]Andromadus Slim Bean @blk_jack
[06/27/2013]Andromadus - AOSP Jelly Bean @cn.fyodor
[06/16/2013]Andromadus Permission Spoofing 4.2.2 @guhl99
[02/21/2013]PAC Man @xT4Z1N4TRx
[02/14/2013]Andromadus - AOSP4.2.2 @Flinny
[02/13/2013]Paranoid Android 2.51 @HTCDreamOn
[02/06/2013]Andromadus - CM10 @Flinny
[01/29/2013]LIGUX 4.1 @ajhavery
[01/09/2013]MIUI Light v4.1 @v1r0x
[12/05/2012]Ligux V4.1 @ablivian
[11/20/2012]Andromadus Jelly Belly @darkspadez
[06/30/2012]Jelly Bean Gnex Port @siulmagic
Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs
[01/21/2012]coolOS ICS 1.4.0 - (MIUIv4) @coolos
[01/21/2013]SENSEI @coolos
[11/03/2013]RandomROM @Dr. Globbyglob
[08/18/2013]Sense Revolution @The Android Manual
[05/22/2013]ViperZ @nitsuj17
[03/07/2013]Sabsa Prime @ajhavery
[02/27/2013]mySENSE-z @ajhavery
[12/26/2012]Sabsa Bliss 3.1 @lms24
[11/24/2012]MIUIANDROID's port for VISION @strawmetal
[11/09/2012]TrickDroid @ajhavery
[10/21/2012]Ice Cream SENSEwich @xT4Z1N4TRx
[09/04/2012]Andromadus Mimicry @blk_jack
[08/28/2012]Virtuous Infinity @evilcuber
[08/17/2012]Blackout ICS INCREDIBLE @xT4Z1N4TRx
[08/15/2012]EliteMod ICS @nik3r
[08/14/2012]DayDream SagaOfSense @napior
[08/09/2012]ParanoidAndroid 1.5a @NeverGone\RU
[07/23/2012]AOKP builds for Vision @adamz667
[07/22/2012]MIUI 4.0.3 @cjward23
[06/30/2012]Andromadus Audacity @darkspadez
[06/20/2012]QuadraSense @evilcuber
[06/17/2012]Full Sense 4 for Vision @lms24
[06/01/2012]MIUIv4 brushed @Cid-Vox
[05/29/2012]DayDream DesireOneZ @napior
[05/27/2012]AOKP brushed @Cid-Vox
[05/21/2012]SenseMOD FlashONE @djpbx
[05/21/2012]Virtuous Primadonna @masterismos
[05/10/2012]meXdroidMod Fried IceCream @mjybarr
[04/24/2012]Ice Cold Sandwich @jspina
[04/17/2012]MIUI_Au 4.0.3 @ajhavery
[04/14/2012]IceZSense @ajhavery
[04/11/2012]Gen.Y VisionX @yozgatg
[04/10/2012]Unofficial CyanogenMod 9.1 @jerl92
[04/08/2012]Ice Cream JIBwich @xT4Z1N4TRx
[04/08/2012]Ice Cold Sandwich for Vision @SnowOokami
[04/02/2012]LiGux-v4.0 @PJ.C
[04/01/2012]AOSP MIUI V4 @jspina
[03/26/2012]SmartBeat Venomous @zFr3eak
[03/26/2012]MIUI 4.0.3 @wez89
[03/21/2012]SmartBeat Supremacy XL @zFr3eak
[01/30/2012]Virtuous Affinity @cjward23
[01/25/2012]Virtuous Quattro RC3 @Flemmard
[01/25/2012]ICS Slim @s14mc
[01/01/2012]Ice Cream Sandwich for Desire Z @Flemmard
[12/22/2011]ICS AOSP Build @crowstar
[12/28/2011]Desire S ICS AOSP PORT @ xT4Z1N4TRx
[11/28/2011]:: Galnet MiUi :: @erichung_13
[11/24/2011]Ice Cream SandWich Aosp port @siulmagic
Ionic-OneV MIX @vistaman123
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How To Behave on XDA Forums
This section is not meant to offend but rather inform XDA members, please read, understand and abide by what is said in this post... you will never be called a n00b if you do!
First Read This
This alone will save you - thanks Tony Stark
How to post your problem or question
This isn't really complicated but for whatever reason many don't follow the basic outline for posting. So let's see if I can help
Step One
*Have you searched for the answer to your problem/question?
If not do this first, both the search button in the XDA forums and Google work wonders.
At least attempt to show you did a little research before you scream help or this ROM is garbage, Not searching or just simply complaining will get you ignored EVEN IF YOU WRITE IN ALL CAPS
All questions belong in Q&A Forum All General Phone discussion in General NEVER post random problems in Developers section
Step Two
So you have searched for your answer and can't find it, that's okay, it happens to all of us. But before you create a new thread seek out a similar one (in the proper forum for you phone) and ask there.
You may think a new thread is better but in truth people look at the old ones just as much, and keeping all similar questions in one thread helps to elevate congestion and makes the next guys search a ton easier.
Step Three
Know what to post. This means explain your problem as best you can (don't write a book, just not "help my phone is possessed by demons" as this is not helpful)
So this means explain all about your phone, boot into your bootloader and write down all from that screen within your post. Explain how you rooted your phone. Explain where your troubles began and what you have tried to do to fix it.
Give details as much as possible, this usually will include a logcat. Which there are many ways to get, learn how to before you have a problem.
Code:
adb logcat > logcat.txt
Code:
adb shell dmesg ; adb logcat -b system -b radio -b events -b main
Code:
cat /proc/last_kmsg
Also read THIS or maybe try THIS
Use pastebin or codewraps around your logcat ( # sign from above)
Obviously every problem and question will require different information, but the more you give the better chance someone can help you.
Step Four
Wait for your answer, do not post the same question in ten threads, one will do. While you are waiting keep searching for your own answer.
When someone gives you help say thank you (with the thanks button preferably - don't make a post that just says thanks... not ever)
Even if you don't like the answer be grateful someone took time from their day to try and help if you think it's bad advice, maybe reiterate your question and politely ask for a clearer or better explanation to the solution.
Once you have an answer
Edit first post to add the fix. If there was no fix maybe explain why there is no fix in first post.
This will help others searching for a similar problem later. Make sure your helper was thanked as well.
*Remember ROMs, Kernels, etc, may be posted in the developer section, basic questions shouldn't be in those threads.
If you must add something, like a bug report, be sure to add a logcat or you likely wont be helped.
Happy Flashing!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tech Specs and More!
Want To Know More About Your Phone?
Both Phones Are The Same But Different [HTC VISION]
Full Specs For The HTC Desire Z provided by GSMARENA
XDA QUICK SPECS (DZ)
Full Specs For The T-Mobile G2 provided by GSMARENA
A Summary Of The Differences Read THIS
But Before the Vision Arrived....There Was The Prototype - More On the Blaze
Reviews
XDA Official Review Thread For The HTC Vision This Is What Users Think
For Those Who Like Graphs and Numbers
Dont always agree with CNET but I always read their reviews
Some Very Informative Reading
Probably been here to root your phone, but read through - lots of info!THE XDA WIKI
Go Through All The Links Here, You'll Be Amazed
Physical Repair And Disassembly
Dissasembly Guide With Photos Man this guy ROCKS!
And Those who hate to read but need to repair their Vision Watch This
Need to fix your Keypad?
Is the colors on your screen all messed up? Probably need a new LCD or Flexcable
How about strengthen your Hinge? I did, its awesome!
Camera Lens gone bad? Try this out!
Common issue but couldnt find a better thread on How Easy It Is To Replace a Dead Flash
How's that Battery Cover doing? Need to clean it up?
Random
So has anyone ever bought One Of These?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So You Want To Learn How To Develop?
Oh how much there is to learn... but before you read on, READ THIS!
Still Want To Learn Development?
How To Begin...
Learning Java and C++ are great first steps, but real time consuming... be sure to at least try a bit. BUY A BOOK?
HERE you can get a start, even if you know little to nothing
Next get ready to spend hours watching These Great Videos
Did you bother to read All This Yet?
Now That You Have Started The Long Process
Be Sure You Know ADB and Fastboot in and out.
You have learned a bunch about GITHUB And HOW TO USE IT as well as REPO?
You have a proper ANDROID DEVELOPMENT BOX?
So You Are Ready To Build a Rom From Source? Maybe a Port First... or A Kernel?
Not knowing where to begin is common, but my advice is the same as most others; start small, very small. HELLO WORLD
But you know this, so here are some guides for apps, ROMs, kernels, recoveries, etc.
Take Something apart and see how it works Like This start simple
Or Decomplie an app
Simple Modding
Some More Basic To Try Out
Some Nice Tools
UOT Kitchen
VirtuousTenStudio
.apk modding
Put All Your Knowledge into a Flashable .zip
Make Your Own Kernel
More on Kernel Development
Tips on How to use REPO
Learn to compile from source
Still Have a burning question Ask It HERE or in this thread!
Vision Specific Guides
Tips From ajhavery ...thank him
Do Still Have Some Questions? Know Where To Ask Them
Follow The Rules....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I flashed G-lite 2.0.1 and ended up with no pop-up for USB storage when i connect to PC via cable. Can you help me pls
That's strange, I used that ROM many times and never had this happen, what have you tried to fix it so far? Dirty flashes? Clean flashes? Did it ever happen before? Does it still charge? Would need to know a lot more about your situation
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
sunnyphan said:
I flashed G-lite 2.0.1 and ended up with no pop-up for USB storage when i connect to PC via cable. Can you help me pls
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
try a different rom and flashed to your phone to see it is from that specific rom or your phone has a problem
Updated and added a poll, This is very time consuming which is often something I don't have much of
Just curious if others are using this or if I'm wasting time keeping this thread up to date
demkantor said:
Updated and added a poll, This is very time consuming which is often something I don't have much of
Just curious if others are using this or if I'm wasting time keeping this thread up to date
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just saying, I visit here quite a bit for ROM stuff (at least like 3-4 times a week). I greatly appreciate all the effort you put into it ^.^
although i cannot contribute to this page i sure am glad it was here:good::good:
---------- Post added at 09:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 PM ----------
fireball0093 said:
Just saying, I visit here quite a bit for ROM stuff (at least like 3-4 times a week). I greatly appreciate all the effort you put into it ^.^
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
prob not as funny to you as is me but i like that youre still using the 2nd smartphone ever made over those iCraps you had:good::good:
DaBrinz said:
although i cannot contribute to this page i sure am glad it was here:good::good:
---------- Post added at 09:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 PM ----------
prob not as funny to you as is me but i like that youre still using the 2nd smartphone ever made over those iCraps you had:good::good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
xD It's my mom's now as a basic phone, I used to use it as an iPod for my car
谢谢系啊啊~~~~~~~~~~~不找地是啊!1!!
I had all but given up on my G2s and am searching for a new dd. I was surprised and glad to find this thread today while searching for a volume boost app to get me by. +100 and thanks for all the great info! I am sure to find new life in my old phones...
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda app-developers app
benyzi said:
谢谢系啊啊~~~~~~~~~~~不找地是啊!1!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google translate didnt help me much here, but the !! Makes me think good, so thank you
spjuggalojoe said:
I had all but given up on my G2s and am searching for a new dd. I was surprised and glad to find this thread today while searching for a volume boost app to get me by. +100 and thanks for all the great info! I am sure to find new life in my old phones...
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm glad this thread was helpful for you, and that reminds me, if anyone can think of some import threads that should be added please let me know. As in something you are trying to search out specific to the vision but not found here. Would like to make it a one stop shop, but keep in mind I'm not trying to add new info rather just a thread containing links to other relevant threads,
Thanks to the few of you who participated in the poll, its as I thought; not many using this thread but helpful to those who do. I'll continue to support it
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
demkantor said:
Google translate didnt help me much here, but the !! Makes me think good, so thank you
I'm glad this thread was helpful for you, and that reminds me, if anyone can think of some import threads that should be added please let me know. As in something you are trying to search out specific to the vision but not found here. Would like to make it a one stop shop, but keep in mind I'm not trying to add new info rather just a thread containing links to other relevant threads,
Thanks to the few of you who participated in the poll, its as I thought; not many using this thread but helpful to those who do. I'll continue to support it
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Showing up here for the first time, but so glad I found this thread.
I'm keeping 2 T-mobile G2 phones updated. These suckers are built like tanks!
How many folks with new devices can see stats like this? (Jelly Baby ROM)
Your efforts are truly appreciated! :good:
Kitkat hboot
Hello Guys,
i have installed [vision] [1.2.8] AOSB Project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642605
I have read that I need another HBOOT for KITKAT for more memory in system but which? (Hboot for DZ)
Now I have Hboot 0.84.2000 but nothing changed.
Before I was was on 0.85.0005
which one must be installed?
And
I have no Contacts on SIM with this ROM. Is it normaly?
With Sensei 1.3.0 I have Contacts on SIM
My Desire is with german Keyboard (QWERTZ)
You have the correct bootloader now
I have yet to flash aosb so I can't say for sure but my assumption is that there is a bug in displaying Sim contact, I've seen this on many ROMs in the past so I have migrated to gmail contacts as a workaround. You could do the same.
But you can check by going into contact app and there the settings to see what happens when you choose display sim contacts, if it doesn't work give the dev a bug report and use another contact sync or another rom
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app