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Storage and Memory
32GB
16GB ROM/512MB RAM
xD Epic Fail.
Look it up on their website! For the Epic Specifications!
Fixter said:
Look at this. xD
Storage and Memory
32GB
16GB ROM/512MB RAM
xD Epic Fail.
Look it up on their website! For the Epic Specifications!
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LOL Holy crap you're right....
I never would have thought that even Samsung gets their phones mixed up lol.
16GB ROM/512MB RAM
Memory that is built into the phone for the purpose of receiving and storing data.
Yep it's directly on samsung.com
They consider the 16 GB sd "built-in" because techincally it's pre-installed
Epic specs wrong?
"while the 16 gigs of built-in memory and is expandable up to another 32GB, so you can store loads of videos and MP3s."
So I can put 48 gb of RAM into my Epic according to the specifications page from Samsung.
Hi, I own a Transformer, and I'm quite satisfied about it..
May I just ask you all a question? For the 16GB version, how much Total Space, under Settings -> Storage does your Transformer show?
12.63GB, I believe.
I'd assume it doesn't show the space the OS uses as available. You also have to remember that 16GB of unformatted space works out at 14.89GB. This would mean the OS is only using 2.26GB.
Is any of that space usable for user storage, such as music, ebooks, videos?
How is it partitioned/mounted? /data?
I hadn't though much about this until I read this thread. I bought the 32GB Transformer. And this is what I see under Settings/Storage:
Total Space: 13.18 GB
Applications: 0.96 GB
Downloads: 2.92 MB
Pictures, Videos: 29.38 MB
Audio: 693 MB
Misc: 16.57 MB
Available: 11.49 GB
Seems like I got ripped off and this is the 16GB Transformer, not the 32GB like I paid for.
I'm trying to figure out what the Misc. is, mine is up to nearly 1.2gb.
it sure sounds like you got the 16gb model, I show 27.80gb total available on the 32gb model.
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Thanks everyone for the replies.. I've got 12,63gb as total space too..
Trailblazer, I think you really should return it if you paid for the 32 gb ver, it obviously is the 16gb ver..
trailblazer2002 said:
I hadn't though much about this until I read this thread. I bought the 32GB Transformer. And this is what I see under Settings/Storage:
Total Space: 13.18 GB
Applications: 0.96 GB
Downloads: 2.92 MB
Pictures, Videos: 29.38 MB
Audio: 693 MB
Misc: 16.57 MB
Available: 11.49 GB
Seems like I got ripped off and this is the 16GB Transformer, not the 32GB like I paid for.
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where did you buy it from TF 32Gb,and get 16Gb?
Mine has 12gb of free space
I got the Transformer from Newegg, but it is not their fault. The box clearly states 32GB. I immediately checked that when I received it. And the Serial number on the box matches what is on the Transformer. The problem is that Newegg wants me to return it and wait a few days after they receive it before they send me another one. The only problem I had with this unit was the Sleep of Death. I used to get it multiple times per day. But since the 3.1 update, the thing has been flawless, so I hate to give it up. But I guess I dont have a choice.
I saw the official estore of Samsung India. In their website it is mentioned that note 10.1 has only 1 GB ram? Is it a mistake or the indian model has been stripped down? Share your Opinions!!
It's a mistake
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Claims 2GB DDR3, 1.7GB is shown as usable. The memory is fast. 2GB RAM should have been utilized in tablets long ago.
I thought we had 2GB of ddr2 ram. 2gb of ddr3 RAM is great if true. What type does the S3 have?
We only have lpddr2... lpddr3 spec was just announced in may 2012 i doubt any device released this year will have lpddr3
I'm just curious if anyone knows what the actual storage amount available to the consumer out of the box will be for consumers on an 8GB or 16GB Nexus 4? I think I could make due with about 6.5 - 7 GB but I know there's no guarantee the OS & whatever else won't take up additional space. If anyone has any thoughts, feel free to chime in! 8 more days to go!
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I'm just curious if anyone knows what the actual storage amount available to the consumer out of the box will be for consumers on an 8GB or 16GB Nexus 4? I think I could make due with about 6.5 - 7 GB but I know there's no guarantee the OS & whatever else won't take up additional space. If anyone has any thoughts, feel free to chime in! 8 more days to go!
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Phil Nickinson of Android Central said he had approx 13gb free on his 16gb handset!
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Phil Nickinson of Android Central said he had approx 13gb free on his 16gb handset!
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Wow! Are you serious?! That means the phone took up 3 gigs on it's own? So if you buy the 8 GB variant, you're left with just 5 GB? That's ridiculous.
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Wow! Are you serious?! That means the phone took up 3 gigs on it's own? So if you buy the 8 GB variant, you're left with just 5 GB? That's ridiculous.
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The difference between the free space and advertised space is not just the OS, but also has to do with the formatted capacity being lower. The 8GB Nexus 7 has 5.92GB of free space out of the box, so I imagine this will be similar.
It's definitely going to be 5.xx GB and 13.xx GB. That's the way it has been for a long time now. My 16GB Galaxy S has 13.43GB available for storage. I suspect the 2GB ROM space is taken out of the same NAND chip, correct me if I'm wrong.
Other thing to note is that the GB advertised is in decimal system.
eg: 8gb will have 8 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 = 8,000,000,000 bytes in decimal
In reality one kilo byte is 1024 bytes and so on:
So to startwith 8 GB is not really 8gb its 7.45 gb.
8,000,000,000 / (1024*1024*1024) = 7.45 GB
So the 5.92 that you see is not 8 - 5.92. But is 7.45 - 5.92.
Godamn gibabits... should be banned from advertising!
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Godamn gibabits... should be banned from advertising!
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It's actually the operating systems that are using the unit incorrectly. GB = gigabyte = 10^9 bytes. All of the OS developers chose to use GB = 1024^3. The IEEE officially endorses the metric interpretation (10^9). 1024^3 is really called a Gibibyte (GiB), but only Ubuntu and Mac OS have adopted this on the software side.
So even though harddrive manufacturers get all the blame, they're really the ones that are right.
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Wow! Are you serious?! That means the phone took up 3 gigs on it's own? So if you buy the 8 GB variant, you're left with just 5 GB? That's ridiculous.
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Can't tell if you're joking or not.... Has been a known fact for every device with internal storage.
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Saw one review video for a 16 GB version , user space will be 12.95 GB , thats slightly lesser than Galaxy Nexus ,(13.33 GB)
Folks that have the 64gb model are reporting at least 5gb of storage not accounted for and the listing in storage settings does not account for it. The available storage is about 5GB less than the bloatastic Note 5 64gb.
Seems an allocation issue perhaps since nothing else seems to bridge it. The 64GB is technically a 59GB with the storage MIA.
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Folks that have the 64gb model are reporting at least 5gb of storage not accounted for and the listing in storage settings does not account for it. The available storage is about 5GB less than the bloatastic Note 5 64gb.
Seems an allocation issue perhaps since nothing else seems to bridge it. The 64GB is technically a 59GB with the storage MIA.
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Just to clarify, you're not talking about the space taken up by the OS right? This is in addition to that?
Huh, I think you're right unless I'm looking at it wrong. The 32GB only has 24GB of available space. Should be around 28GB on a basically Pure Android rom I'd think.
You must take into account the os. ~5 gigs sounds about right.
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The LP version with all of its new tricks is a bit heavyset. This is my extremely debloated 2013 X.
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PiousInquisitor said:
You must take into account the os. ~5 gigs sounds about right.
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I agree, but in my photo above the 32GB is missing 8GB. I suppose that might not be too far off. I'd think Pure Android would take up about 4-5GB. I don't remember what it took up on the N6...maybe the extra Moto feature take up that much extra space? Who knows. I guess the 3GB isn't that big of a deal. Once we have an AOSP rom hanging around we'll be able to compare.
Edit: looks like the Nexus 6 had about 26GB of available storage. With this only having 24GB I would definitely assume the extra Moto stuff takes up that 2GB of storage.
The 64gb does not even show the 59.6 gb formatted that should be available before the allocation for the stock rom and apps. Something does not add up and based on the convention of storage and using the Note 5 64gb as example, the Pure 64GB is a 59gb device.
This device has 4gb less storage than the Note 5, which is alone telling something is wrong. Motorola has messed something up with allocation. The bad thing is a fix would mean starting from scratch.
Can someone chime in with what the 16 gb version is starting with free?
And I just took this screen shot on my N6 on the m preview. 32 gb version
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Can someone chime in with what the 16 gb version is starting with free?
And I just took this screen shot on my N6 on the m preview. 32 gb version
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Nice. That kinda confirms that at least the 32 GB version of the Pure doesn't have any unaccounted for storage since its right at what your N6 has available (can't speak for the 64GB version).
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The 64gb does not even show the 59.6 gb formatted that should be available before the allocation for the stock rom and apps. Something does not add up and based on the convention of storage and using the Note 5 64gb as example, the Pure 64GB is a 59gb device.
This device has 4gb less storage than the Note 5, which is alone telling something is wrong. Motorola has messed something up with allocation. The bad thing is a fix would mean starting from scratch.
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What do you mean by formatted? Post a picture of your storage settings page.
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Just for reference, my 64 GB Droid Turbo shows 53.45 GB available. I should receive my 64 GB Pure on Wednesday.
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Just for reference, my 64 GB Droid Turbo shows 53.45 GB available. I should receive my 64 GB Pure on Wednesday.
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Two words bro: Verizon. Bloat.
Lol.
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I'm fairly sure this is what is happening:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=64+GB+to+GiB
Don't confuse GB with GiB. GB is where 1 MB = 1000 kilobytes and GiB is where 1 MB = 1024 kilobytes. Storage manufacturers typically use GB measurements for their storage capacities while some OSes (like Android) will report GiB capacities.
Basically put, there's no missing 5 GBs. Android is reporting the actual GiB size where as Motorola is telling you it's 64 GB size. The two are not equal.
For example, my MXPE:
32 GB storage option was my choice.
Total Space (Settings > Stroage) is: 24.06 GB. Keep in mind this is GiB, not GB. Lollipop stock ROM is roughly 4.5 to 5 GBs roughly. Tack back on 5 GBs, and we get 29.06 GB. This is the actual storage capacity of 32 GBs in GiB.
Acreo Aeneas said:
I'm fairly sure this is what is happening:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=64+GB+to+GiB
Don't confuse GB with GiB. GB is where 1 MB = 1000 kilobytes and GiB is where 1 MB = 1024 kilobytes. Storage manufacturers typically use GB measurements for their storage capacities while some OSes (like Android) will report GiB capacities.
Basically put, there's no missing 5 GBs. Android is reporting the actual GiB size where as Motorola is telling you it's 64 GB size. The two are not equal.
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Good catch. Where does android report GiB though?
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PiousInquisitor said:
Good catch. Where does android report GiB though?
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The thing is Android does not use GiB notation in the backend, so it becomes extra confusing to those who are used to GB notation.
Acreo Aeneas said:
The thing is Android does not use GiB notation in the backend, so it becomes extra confusing to those who are used to GB notation.
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The front end is what the user sees right? Settings>Storage for example, which shows GB. Where would one find where android shows GiB?
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PiousInquisitor said:
Good catch. Where does android report GiB though?
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PiousInquisitor said:
The front end is what the user sees right? Settings>Storage for example, which shows GB. Where would one find where android shows GiB?
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Settings > Storage is shown in GIB as far as I can tell. It's just that "GB" is used for GIB. Confused yet?
Simple point is the bloat monster Verizon Note 5 has 4.5gb more available storage out of box. I know users on two other forums that have the 64gb (and ordered when I did) that report the same issue.
Wild how I order a black grippy model with gray with no engraving or greeting and still in build status while others have theirs ordered same day with extra bling. Meh.
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Simple point is the bloat monster Verizon Note 5 has 4.5gb more available storage out of box. I know users on two other forums that have the 64gb (and ordered when I did) that report the same issue.
Wild how I order a black grippy model with gray with no engraving or greeting and still in build status while others have theirs ordered same day with extra bling. Meh.
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I saw users reporting they had about 23.5 GB of usable space on the 32GB Verizon note 5 so that's actually slightly less than the 32GB Pure.
16GB has 9.5GB Available... Got my 32GB Samsung Pro immediately. Better get that Android M as promised asap.
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So why does my 64gb device report
53.18GB total size for device
Then my 64GB SanDisk microsd is showing
59.45GB total.
Should these be relatively close and not 5GB? Not that I care, but, if device is displaying in GiB then those values should both be lower. Motorola themselves has to be the ones claiming 64GiB vs 64GB.
I'm not being picking about device being 5GB shy of what it should be. But I'm hoping this can help make sense of it.