Samsung EPIC Error - Epic 4G General

Look at this. xD
Storage and Memory
32GB
16GB ROM/512MB RAM
xD Epic Fail.
Look it up on their website! For the Epic Specifications!

Fixter said:
Look at this. xD
Storage and Memory
32GB
16GB ROM/512MB RAM
xD Epic Fail.
Look it up on their website! For the Epic Specifications!
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LOL Holy crap you're right....
I never would have thought that even Samsung gets their phones mixed up lol.
16GB ROM/512MB RAM
Memory that is built into the phone for the purpose of receiving and storing data.
Yep it's directly on samsung.com

They consider the 16 GB sd "built-in" because techincally it's pre-installed

Epic specs wrong?
"while the 16 gigs of built-in memory and is expandable up to another 32GB, so you can store loads of videos and MP3s."
So I can put 48 gb of RAM into my Epic according to the specifications page from Samsung.

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[Q] Are there any versions of this tab with more than 16 gb?

I notice that all versions I see are only 16 GB of storage. I am sorry but that is pretty damn weak for a tab. The iPad goes to 64 GB.
I heard that there were 7.7 tabs up to 64 GB but haven even seen a 32 gb version around.
Is this something that is just planned for the distant future or is there a 32 gb and up version out somewhere?
Fom what i have seen, only 16Gb models are in stock for now.
32Gb and 64Gb will be available later on I guess.
DaveC1964 said:
I notice that all versions I see are only 16 GB of storage. I am sorry but that is pretty damn weak for a tab. The iPad goes to 64 GB.
I heard that there were 7.7 tabs up to 64 GB but haven even seen a 32 gb version around.
Is this something that is just planned for the distant future or is there a 32 gb and up version out somewhere?
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Yeah, the iPad goes up to 64GB, BUT, the iPad lacks a micro SD slot, AND since 64GB micro SD cards have already been confirmed working in the 7.7, there's your 64GB version right there!
Now... I wonder how much a 128GB micro SD card would be...
the 7.7 comes in 16, 32 and 64 versions
32 is already available for order from Expensyve... i mean Expansys
i'm waiting for the 64 GB version already own a 64 GB microSD so that'll adds up to 128 GB
and if they release the 128 microSD later this year/next year, then i'll definitely get it too and make this device a 192 GB portable entertainment unit ... and work of course... that's the whole reason we're getting it for anyways for "work" file under business expenses
AllGamer said:
the 7.7 comes in 16, 32 and 64 versions
32 is already available for order from Expensyve... i mean Expansys
i'm waiting for the 64 GB version already own a 64 GB microSD so that'll adds up to 128 GB
and if they release the 128 microSD later this year/next year, then i'll definitely get it too and make this device a 192 GB portable entertainment unit ... and work of course... that's the whole reason we're getting it for anyways for "work" file under business expenses
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Don't get me wrong, having 64 GB of internal storage would be nice and all, but honestly, with how much of my media I put on the cloud anyway, having a 64 GB external SD card is plenty good for me.
The way I'm set up now, all my pictures and music are stored in the cloud, and I basically just use my SD card for TV and movies.
But everyone is different!
P.S. Where are you seeing the 7.7 as being available on Expansys? Either the 16 or the 32 GB version. Both the US and the Canadian sites show it as a pre-order only (still!!!)...
P.P.S Nevermind, I see it on the UK site. £599 though?! Ouch... That's like $945 USD!! Good lord...
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Don't get me wrong, having 64 GB of internal storage would be nice and all, but honestly, with how much of my media I put on the cloud anyway, having a 64 GB external SD card is plenty good for me.
The way I'm set up now, all my pictures and music are stored in the cloud, and I basically just use my SD card for TV and movies.
But everyone is different!
P.S. Where are you seeing the 7.7 as being available on Expansys? Either the 16 or the 32 GB version. Both the US and the Canadian sites show it as a pre-order only (still!!!)...
P.P.S Nevermind, I see it on the UK site. £599 though?! Ouch... That's like $945 USD!! Good lord...
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yeah Expansys prices are always over the top vs. other retailers
16 gb = 499, 32 gb = 599, so if and when the 64 gb version does come out i'm sure it's going to be 699 pounds
hoping to find it on other places. definitely not buying it at those over priced prices from expansys
AllGamer said:
yeah Expansys prices are always over the top vs. other retailers
16 gb = 499, 32 gb = 599, so if and when the 64 gb version does come out i'm sure it's going to be 699 pounds
hoping to find it on other places
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I guess... Idk, it's your money man!! Personally I'll just be happy with my 16 + 64 + 2x32.
Yes, a SD card is fine, but NOT if you want to use Dropbox, which doesn't work with SD, only internal storage (unless that recently changed).
So yes, I'm waiting for 64GB as well and so far, nothing in Spain
nice2meet said:
Yes, a SD card is fine, but NOT if you want to use Dropbox, which doesn't work with SD, only internal storage (unless that recently changed).
So yes, I'm waiting for 64GB as well and so far, nothing in Spain
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If you root and edit the platform.xml file then all apps such as Dropbox can then write to the external SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454178
If you don't want to root your device then yeah, nothing but the stock apps will be able to save to the SD card. You can still transfer files via MTP, but that's not the same.
nice2meet said:
Yes, a SD card is fine, but NOT if you want to use Dropbox, which doesn't work with SD, only internal storage (unless that recently changed).
So yes, I'm waiting for 64GB as well and so far, nothing in Spain
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I don't know about you, but currently, my dropbox space is only at 2GB, so that's a non-issue for me.
Besides that, with the external SD card permissions modified, how can you change where dropbox saves anyway? I haven't found the option in its settings...
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I don't know about you, but currently, my dropbox space is only at 2GB, so that's a non-issue for me.
Besides that, with the external SD card permissions modified, how can you change where dropbox saves anyway? I haven't found the option in its settings...
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The latest version of Dropbox has an option to "export to SD card". It doesn't create its own folders like previous versions but just lets you save files individually in your location of choice.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Yeah, the iPad goes up to 64GB, BUT, the iPad lacks a micro SD slot, AND since 64GB micro SD cards have already been confirmed working in the 7.7, there's your 64GB version right there!
Now... I wonder how much a 128GB micro SD card would be...
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Yeah but 64 GB SD cards are still a ripoff. When they get down to $59 where they should be then that is a good option. You can get 32 GB for around $30.00 and 64 GB is around $200, that is ridiculous!
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Don't get me wrong, having 64 GB of internal storage would be nice and all, but honestly, with how much of my media I put on the cloud anyway, having a 64 GB external SD card is plenty good for me.
The way I'm set up now, all my pictures and music are stored in the cloud, and I basically just use my SD card for TV and movies.
But everyone is different!
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Yeah everyone is different and handing control of access to my stuff to the "cloud" is a poor option for me. I am not always connected to the net, and don't want to be just to look at a picture or listen to a song/album etc. I also would opt for a wifi only version as I don't want to pay for expensive 3G service. Plus SD access is much quicker than constantly downloading from the "cloud" and battery life is much better without having the modem radio always on . A 32 GB internal option would be nice for me I just hope it doesn't take them forever to release it.
burhanistan said:
The latest version of Dropbox has an option to "export to SD card". It doesn't create its own folders like previous versions but just lets you save files individually in your location of choice.
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Gotcha! I see that there, and I can confirm that exporting to my external SD works flawlessly using the mod mentioned a couple posts ago.
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DaveC1964 said:
Yeah but 64 GB SD cards are still a ripoff. When they get down to $59 where they should be then that is a good option. You can get 32 GB for around $30.00 and 64 GB is around $200, that is ridiculous!
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I bought mine on Amazon for about $150, which yeah, it's expensive, but it's still less than the ~$200 more you could expect to pay for a 64GB 7.7, not to mention that the cost of external memory will inevitably get cheaper anyway. Just my 2 cents.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I bought mine on Amazon for about $150, which yeah, it's expensive, but it's still less than the ~$200 more you could expect to pay for a 64GB 7.7, not to mention that the cost of external memory will inevitably get cheaper anyway. Just my 2 cents.
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Yeah but I want the internal mostly for apps and external for data (music, video, pictures etc). The thing I know is that "16 GB" is really not 16 GB. After they get done bloating it up with all of the crap they usually put on there you are lucky if you have 10 GB left.
Plus having 32 GB internal doesn't mean that I couldn't add 64 GB SD later when they get reasonable. More is always more and card swapping sucks (but at least you can do it unlike Apple stuff).
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Yeah but I want the internal mostly for apps and external for data (music, video, pictures etc). The thing I know is that "16 GB" is really not 16 GB. After they get done bloating it up with all of the crap they usually put on there you are lucky if you have 10 GB left.
Plus having 32 GB internal doesn't mean that I couldn't add 64 GB SD later when they get reasonable. More is always more and card swapping sucks (but at least you can do it unlike Apple stuff).
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True. However, supposedly ICS will bring the ability to install apps to external storage. If this is the case, then that vastly improves what you can install.
For me, the way I currently run my 7.7, I minimize my internal memory usage by keeping my heavyweight media on my external SD (like movies and TV). My internal storage is almost exclusively used for apps and app data. All of my pictures and music are cloud-sourced, so if any of that is actually on my device, it's because it has been stored in the application cache data. By doing this, I still have about 8GB of headroom on my internal storage (out of the 13GB available), which is still plenty enough for me and whatever other apps I decide to install.
More than anything though, I'd rather have the 16GB model as soon as it's available, and then upgrade it with 64GB of external storage, than have to wait weeks, or even months, for the 32 or 64 GB versions.
I agree, more is always better of course, but I just don't have the patience to wait for it. If you do, then my hat goes off to you!
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I agree, more is always better of course, but I just don't have the patience to wait for it. If you do, then my hat goes off to you!
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Well it depends on how long it will be before the 32 GB ships out. If it is like 3 months away or something I would probably bite the bullet and get the 16 GB. All I know is that how things usually go is that I buy the 16 GB THEN they announce a week later that the 32 GB is shipping.
Having a 16 GB version at all seems dumb. I mean 32 GB micro SDs are around $30 and they make money selling them. The actual cost difference between 16 and 32 GB internal chip to Sammy (they actually make the flash memory) is what, $5.00? I would think it would cost more just to keep track of and make all of these different ones.
The GT-6810 (16Gb & 32Gb WiFi) has been available here for a couple of weeks now (Oz). That is when I got mine. No 3G models released yet AFAIK.
burhanistan said:
If you root and edit the platform.xml file then all apps such as Dropbox can then write to the external SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454178
If you don't want to root your device then yeah, nothing but the stock apps will be able to save to the SD card. You can still transfer files via MTP, but that's not the same.
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in my case i just resort to the good old Linux commands to mount this to there
so easy and so clean
i got most of the internal or sdcard stuff forwarded to the external SD
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I agree, more is always better of course, but I just don't have the patience to wait for it. If you do, then my hat goes off to you!
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I'm trying to hold off waiting for the 64GB version to come out, but if i can't resist the urges i might just go for the 32GB version that is already available
FarmBoi said:
The GT-6810 (16Gb & 32Gb WiFi) has been available here for a couple of weeks now (Oz). That is when I got mine. No 3G models released yet AFAIK.
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I wonder why no importers have it and no one on eBay is selling anything other than the 16 GB 3G version then? Seems weird. Anyone know where to find 32 GB wifi version?
DaveC1964 said:
I wonder why no importers have it and no one on eBay is selling anything other than the 16 GB 3G version then? Seems weird. Anyone know where to find 32 GB wifi version?
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UK retailer have them, like Expansys / Hantec / Cloves , etc

I want the SGS3 64GB for AWS 1700!

So we got official confirmation there will be a AWS 1700 version of the SGS3
however, no one ever reported when we'll ever see the 64GB version.
16GB is like nothing now in days, yet that's the version that most phone carriers are carrying as it's the cheapest one to get.
Since they are opening Samsung retail stores here in Canada shortly, I'm really looking to purchasing a SGS3 directly from Samsung with 64GB and for AWS 1700, or whatever the biggest size they can make for the AWS band.
like Verizion were the only ones that carried the 32GB version of the Galaxy Nexus
agree, now with the quadcore, 4.8 inch display i'm planning on lots of music (maybe even .flac songs) and TV shows that i can't watch at home because i don't have time, a great alternative.
looking also for the 64GB version.
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however, no one ever reported when we'll ever see the 64GB version.
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You're given an sdcard slot, use it, no need to pay a premium for a more memory built in when the memory card costs a fraction of the price.
I'd rather make use of the SD card slot, in case I ever need to transfer between devices
Doesn't the expandable micro sd slot support much faster media? I'm gonna slam a 64gb card in there and be done with it. There's no way I'm going to fill 80 gb...
NAND memory inside of phone is the same as SSD disks have, it is faster than SD cards
Will the speed of sd make much of a difference though day to day? You could use the 16GB for your system and apps then use sd for data storage e.g. audio and video. That's what I plan to do, I already have a 64gb sd so there's no point in spending the extra cash on the phone.
I also want the 64gb model. Fed up fannying about with slow external medias and seperate partitions.
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hefonthefjords said:
I also want the 64gb model. Fed up fannying about with slow external medias and seperate partitions.
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I dunno about you guys,but my Samsung 32gb class 10 micro-sd which I use with my GS2(~45gb total ) is faster than just fast enough.And write speeds are in general better than the internal storage.So a 64gb one would make do I guess.
I have HTC Sensation (1 GB internal memory + Class 10 Lexar 32 GB SD) and SGS2 (16 GB internal memory)
HTC is much slower than SGS2 because of NAND internal memory, it takes forever to install games that take like 30-40 MB on it, while SGS2 does that pretty quick
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camspy said:
NAND memory inside of phone is the same as SSD disks have, it is faster than SD cards
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exactly
already using it
peachpuff said:
You're given an sdcard slot, use it, no need to pay a premium for a more memory built in when the memory card costs a fraction of the price.
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I already have, and it's running out of space
seen my HOWTO guides?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343164
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343187
got loads of Apps/Games, Music & Videos on my entertainment Galaxy phones
Does anyone know how many gigs will be allocated for installation of apps i really don#t care for memory.. You just stick in a 32 or 64gb card and your sorted.. Speed doesn't matter to me as long as i can watch a full length monies on a train or coach ride to meet my gf lol..
Meemo23 said:
Does anyone know how many gigs will be allocated for installation of apps i really don#t care for memory.. You just stick in a 32 or 64gb card and your sorted.. Speed doesn't matter to me as long as i can watch a full length monies on a train or coach ride to meet my gf lol..
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i certainly hope they don't do the same crap they did with the Galaxy Nexus to have everything in 1 single partition just to show people the full size of the internal memory as 1 usable chunk, instead of sectioned like all previous build of Galaxy phones.
i certainly DO NOT want to use MTS to transfer my files, that'll be the worst way possible to handle huge movie files (8+ GB sizes), the bigger the file the slower the copy, the easier it breaks and you have to start all over again

How much space do you REALLY get with the 8GB?

Well, I've been saving up for a new phone for ages and the Nexus 4 seems to be the best choice.
I don't have that much money for the 16GB.
If I buy the 8GB how much space will I "Really" have to use.
Some people are telling me I will have a FULL 8GB free to my self, others are telling me the OS takes up some space by default and I'll have like 2GB free for my self.
Can someone please tell me the truth.
You will have 6.9 -ish GB of memory.
Don't kill me if that's wrong, but no one knows the exact space, but surely you won't get fully 8GB
Your NOT going to get the full 8GB. No doubt about it.
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I have a 64GB Class 10 Micro SD card +16GB that is in my phone. And I only have 28GB or so left.
Well I hope we have more than 6GB of space because I like to keep my music on my phone.
5.42gb free on 8gb model. Lower than I had hoped, probably going 16gb now.
imtiax said:
Well, I've been saving up for a new phone for ages and the Nexus 4 seems to be the best choice.
I don't have that much money for the 16GB.
If I buy the 8GB how much space will I "Really" have to use.
Some people are telling me I will have a FULL 8GB free to my self, others are telling me the OS takes up some space by default and I'll have like 2GB free for my self.
Can someone please tell me the truth.
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I think 2 gb will be reserved for App and 6 gb will be available for use. .
I heard about 5.5GB (if you search some reviews I believe there are some screenshots of the storage screen), can anyone else chime in. Will the full 8GB all be the same speed? Any idea how it will be partitioned? My One X has about 2GB for the system/firmware, about 5GB classed as internal storage and then about 9GB classed mSD card, so I don't know if it is one 16GB 'chip array' running at the same speed.
It's too bad the phone is already so long. It'd have been nice to make / buy a case that had a built in battery and more storage via usbotg. Hell, it still might be a decent idea. I can't live with one battery.. 8gb I can probably manage.
8 gigs is really not bad. I will use my phone for calls,text,pics so on so on. My N7 with 8 GB is my PlayStation has all my games, Google drive will help me upload all my photos. Its really not bad once you put things away
#Galaxy Nexus HSPA+
On the Nexus 7 8gb it is 5.92gb free after mandatory system files. Thats with Jellybean 4.1 though, 4.2 might be a little bigger (or smaller).
I would expect around 5.5gbs of space left on a stock phone.
Afaik, with this nexus, there are no partitions. So the 5.5gb you get is not restricted to 2gb for data, 4gb for music etc.
At least there's one positive. Although, I also think that 5.5gb out of 8gb is on the low side.
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Shenkoa said:
I have a 64GB Class 10 Micro SD card +16GB that is in my phone. And I only have 28GB or so left.
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What does your phone have to do with the nexus4? Besides that are you saying your phone uses 52GB?
Danny80y said:
What does your phone have to do with the nexus4? Besides that are you saying your phone uses 52GB?
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LOL
hes running windows8. be easy on the guy
Honestly, for $50 more, just the get the 16GB. Whats $50 when your already spending $300?

NEXUS 4 user available memory?

Can anyone clear up for me how much storage is actually available in the 8gb and 16gb models? I'm sure android reserves a chunk, but how big is it?
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5GB and 13GB
Allanitomwesh said:
Can anyone clear up for me how much storage is actually available in the 8gb and 16gb models? I'm sure android reserves a chunk, but how big is it?
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5GB on the 8GB Model, 13GB on the 16GB Model. But with Custom Roms, this can probably be increased.
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5GB on the 8GB Model, 13GB on the 16GB Model. But with Custom Roms, this can probably be increased.
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Around 5.4 GBs on the 8GB Model, 13.5 GBs on the 16 GB Model. I mean, the 8GB version must be enough for most people, But I have over 10Gbs of music that I listen to frequently, I will probably have to get the 16GB model as I don't trust cloud storage at all.
Yuvin said:
Around 5.4 GBs on the 8GB Model, 13.5 GBs on the 16 GB Model. I mean, the 8GB version must be enough for most people, But I have over 10Gbs of music that I listen to frequently, I will probably have to get the 16GB model as I don't trust cloud storage at all.
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use Google Music to store your music and just stream it. also you have the option to download the songs you want from your playlist.
Not bad at all. It's top of my list this phone,looks like it matches the Xperia P here. I'll be okay,I have 4gb right now,and I was thinking, 13GB is massive,when thinking about the XP .
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So the NEXUS 4 have 8gb n 16gb.... Y tmobile website say building 16gb n expendable to 64gb... Check where it say memory.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Google-Nexus-4
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drshorty said:
So the NEXUS 4 have 8gb n 16gb.... Y tmobile website say building 16gb n expendable to 64gb... Check where it say memory.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Google-Nexus-4
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Because T-Mobile is clueless... they also list Alarm Clock as a notable feature. Are you kidding me?
LaviLoki said:
5GB on the 8GB Model, 13GB on the 16GB Model. But with Custom Roms, this can probably be increased.
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I'm praying for 6.5 or 6 after ROM w/ a Custom Rom with the 8GB.
Yeah it'll probably get bigger with a lean ROM. Won't be rooting mine though. It's about time I played dumb like an iPhone User. Won't even theme it. Default wallpaper,the whole nine yards.

[Q] Says 16GB on the Box, but on the system it says 8Gb?

I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:
Well...Just contact service support of samsung
Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile
Midnight_Rider said:
the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile
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Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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Maybe but I came from S3, but isn't 8Gb too much for just bloatware? On my previous S3, the total available internal memory was 11.25gb. I would understand the 4.75Gb reduction because of the OS (I already have removed some bloatware) But 8Gb?
Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but saying the device has 16gb storage when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.
Obagleyfreer said:
Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but come on saying the device has 16gb when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.
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You mean you also got the same issue as mine?
Paolonicus said:
You mean you also got the same issue as mine?
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Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.
Paolonicus said:
I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:
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This is why I Bought a 16GB extSD Card
Obagleyfreer said:
Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.
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Lol, ehat if I tell you that my xperia arc has only 420 mb of internal storage, the os takes 200 mb, but I have 359 mb FREE, I don't know how
Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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well true, but it has always been this way. not sure of any phone with internal memory that wasn't partially used by the phones OS, even non-android phones are like this, even iOS
Same issue with windows and Mac computers lol. But yes, I agree that 32 Gb should be new min standard because of app size increases as the years go by.
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Partially used is ok. Not 50% used. Big difference. And there needs to be a warning apps/games cannot be saved on the sd card - forget tweaks that's for tech geeks not the average person.
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Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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Well they neber stated 16gbs free or 16gb useable...so what woupd report them for? You expecting more?
Every device is like this...some more than others. But even blank hardrives/flash drives don't have as much as they claim...buy a terabyte blank hard drive and your actually only getting 9XXgb hard drive
And you cant really base it off the s3 as every year the system partition gets larger taking up more space...due to more features/bloat being added. The worst part is not even debloating will increase your free memory as the whole system partition needs to be changed if you want more user space
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So now we are justifying why it is ok for companies to do this? surely not. So if the S5 is 16gb with 4gb free that will be ok then?
no, its not ok, but you can try emailing samsung instead of beating a dead horse here
but here's the thing. hard drive manufacturers have been doing this for decades. when they say 16gb they dont mean gigabyte, they mean 16 billion bytes. there is a difference.
hard drive makers use base 10 in computing hard drive sizes, so when you see 16gb it really means 16 billion bytes which is less than what you think you are getting. those who understand binary know the difference. in base 2, if i say kilobyte, that means 1024 bytes, but on a hard drive, it means 1000 bytes. see the difference?
on my wife's Tmo S4 she has 9.62gb free from her 16gb internal memory, a lot yes, but not half
I have been in touch with Samsung. They blame Google. I've responded and awaiting a further response.
The available memory varies dependant on carrier. 9.62gb is the UK average I believe.
The other issue is Samsung doesn't sell the phone. It gets orders from carriers and wholesalers. The carriers and wholesalers all chose 16gb since they all thought the memory was expandable with sd card along with apps and games being able to be saved on the sd card.
Maybe a few months down the line we will see 32gb versions being available. I am hopeful.

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