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Hi.
Can someone please tell what is the difference between.. radio and a ROM
i see lot ppl asking for new version of Radio or ROM. Hw r these 2 thing different??
Thanks a lot
I have been trying 2 research the same thing. I have flashed a new ROM. but have no clue on how to install a new Radio, or even where to get them... is there a list and tuts anywhere on how/what to install?
Bee searching with no luck, though I did find a Radio that CR86 had a link to on his Touch HD v2.6 rom though have no idea on how to proceed to install the Radio, so I have my default one on my Wizard atm.
Hi, you can find the differences between RADIO and ROM at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ
x86 said:
I have been trying 2 research the same thing. I have flashed a new ROM. but have no clue on how to install a new Radio, or even where to get them... is there a list and tuts anywhere on how/what to install?
Bee searching with no luck, though I did find a Radio that CR86 had a link to on his Touch HD v2.6 rom though have no idea on how to proceed to install the Radio, so I have my default one on my Wizard atm.
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You can find the Radio Upgrades at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_RadioUpgrades
thanks for the info cooper_xda, made things easier, but I'm learning alot about the software side of these devices lately
LAYMAN TERMS.
Radio : phone's communication software to your network/carrier
ROM : Phone's UI Software.
Or, something like that.
correct if wrong.
And to update both radio and rom, you have to flash it, nbh files is avail at htc upgrading forum.
pretty much got it right lol
radio controls all gsm and 3g functions (calls internet etc)
rom is basically windows mobile and all OEM software
Hi all,
Flashing of RADIO rom is that same reason as my Kaiser?
Better performance, GPS, etc etc?
And where can i find a thread where i can see where the latest radio rom is working correct in given Country's, or are the HERO Radio roms for every country?
I know for Kaiser that not all roms are working correct in Netherlands for example.
cheers
160bpm said:
Hi all,
Flashing of RADIO rom is that same reason as my Kaiser?
Better performance, GPS, etc etc?
And where can i find a thread where i can see where the latest radio rom is working correct in given Country's, or are the HERO Radio roms for every country?
I know for Kaiser that not all roms are working correct in Netherlands for example.
cheers
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Yes indeed, that is exactly what updating the radio is good for.
I don't think they are country/region specific,... I just used the latest one and my network signal is now much better!!!
All radio updates can be found in the sticky's at the top of the Hero-Development section,... Heres the link though,... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757
Peace
nothing to add here, except DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY! it takes a few minutes and you may see a screen that makes you think you bricked your phone.
kendong2 said:
nothing to add here, except DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY! it takes a few minutes and you may see a screen that makes you think you bricked your phone.
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Yep yep,.... V-IMPORTANT!!!!!
Just wait.
Don't want to start an additional thread for my [question], so this seems to be a good place to ask it .
Where do these radio roms come from? How come HTC don't provide them for downloading in their site? Maybe it's simply not worth flashing them or they are actually not good in a sense that they are not tested properly and stuff?
Also, do the full ROM upgrades include a newer radio? So can we expect a new radio included in the upcoming official 2.1 ROM?
AND, what is the difference betwen EU and JU? Currently I have 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18 and the newest one is 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26. This may sound super dumb, but maybe mine is like European one and the newest is Japanese or something?
Oh, and the last one (even though I'm sure there is an answer somewhere deep in these forums): how do you flash radio, in short?
Thanks
pauliusba said:
Don't want to start an additional thread for my [question], so this seems to be a good place to ask it .
Where do these radio roms come from? How come HTC don't provide them for downloading in their site? Maybe it's simply not worth flashing them or they are actually not good in a sense that they are not tested properly and stuff?
Also, do the full ROM upgrades include a newer radio? So can we expect a new radio included in the upcoming official 2.1 ROM?
AND, what is the difference betwen EU and JU? Currently I have 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18 and the newest one is 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26. This may sound super dumb, but maybe mine is like European one and the newest is Japanese or something?
Oh, and the last one (even though I'm sure there is an answer somewhere deep in these forums): how do you flash radio, in short?
Thanks
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I'm no pro, but I can attempt this,...
Where do these radio roms come from?...
I *think* the official updates from HTC come with updated radio ROMS,... Then some clever guys from either here or Modaco take 'dumps' of the update from the handset itself, then seperate the two.
Maybe it's simply not worth flashing them or they are actually not good in a sense that they are not tested properly and stuff?...
I take XDA to be a reliable source of information now,.... If you do your research you'l be fine. I made sure I read through the forums to make sure there are no known issues before upgrading my radio to the latest one.
Do the full ROM upgrades include a newer radio? So can we expect a new radio included in the upcoming official 2.1 ROM?...
Hmmmm,.... Good question. But no-one would know that yet.
Maybe mine is like European one and the newest is Japanese or something?...
I thought the exact same thing, but NO,... It doesn't mean anything,... Apparently it is just a reference used by HTC. I used the latest on my Orange UK branded Hero, which is now being used with an o2 SIM.
How do you flash radio, in short?...
To install a custom firmware ROM I had to update the recovery console. Once that is done, you just put the new radio onto your SD, load into the recovery console, then select update from SD,... DONE,... Easy as pie,... Piece of cake!!!
Thanks all for the info.. And yes.. NEVER pull the Battery out of the phone.. untill you can slide down your lockscreen isn't it? haha
ddotpatel said:
I'm no pro, but I can attempt this,...
Where do these radio roms come from?...
I *think* the official updates from HTC come with updated radio ROMS,... Then some clever guys from either here or Modaco take 'dumps' of the update from the handset itself, then seperate the two.
Maybe it's simply not worth flashing them or they are actually not good in a sense that they are not tested properly and stuff?...
I take XDA to be a reliable source of information now,.... If you do your research you'l be fine. I made sure I read through the forums to make sure there are no known issues before upgrading my radio to the latest one.
Do the full ROM upgrades include a newer radio? So can we expect a new radio included in the upcoming official 2.1 ROM?...
Hmmmm,.... Good question. But no-one would know that yet.
Maybe mine is like European one and the newest is Japanese or something?...
I thought the exact same thing, but NO,... It doesn't mean anything,... Apparently it is just a reference used by HTC. I used the latest on my Orange UK branded Hero, which is now being used with an o2 SIM.
How do you flash radio, in short?...
To install a custom firmware ROM I had to update the recovery console. Once that is done, you just put the new radio onto your SD, load into the recovery console, then select update from SD,... DONE,... Easy as pie,... Piece of cake!!!
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I have the newest Amon Ra recovery tool, is that sufficient? for flashing the radio!
yes. boot
in recovery and apply previously put update.zip on sd card.
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Could someone explain what a radio does and why I should update it?
Check this out,....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651479
.... And use the search function.
I did use the search but as you can imagine, it returns a lot of results.
Are all radios (GSM of course) compatible with all phones, and all ROMs?
Radio updates are device-specific and are also called ROMs. Only they update the radio part of your device (anything to do with wireless activity), while a "regular" ROM updates your system partition (containing the operating system).
Just make sure the radio you wish to flash is compatible with your device.
Radio ROMs for Hero GSM >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757
Hello everyone. I've beeing seying alot of people saying that before a ROM worked with a radio edition , wich GPS worked perfectly and later stoped working, and i decided to study the case in order to know, why is it working.
I've been testing diferent ROMs and Radios.
We've got the radio editions:
Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_6.35.10.18
Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_6.35.08.29
Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_6.35.07.29
And according to an article wich i read here on the forum, teoricly we can use any radio, and the phone wont brickitself.
So i've been using a radio 6.35.08.29, and tested on a ROM wich required the radio 6.35.10.18. As predicted nothing bad happened, worked perfectly . But when i tried the GPS it didnt work. Anyways i decided to test a ROM wich required a 6.35.07.29 radio. Happened the same thing. GPS didnt work.
I Flashed 6.35.07.29 radio on that rom. GPS worked without any problem. I changed radio again to 6.35.08.29 GPS didnt work again.
Once again i went back to my original ROM, and happened that my GPS didnt work, wich before have worked, like the situation most of us encounter here at the forum.
What can we conclude from this?
In my opinion, there are files from the radio wich when we make a backup or even install a new rom, wich wont complete the system instalation of the radio, and you'll have to reflash the radio edition compatible with the ROM you just instaled.
Another theory is that after installing an incompatible ROM, GPS is turned off automaticly .
Anyways, i would like to know your experience and your opinion, i'm sure here are people wich know more about this then i do
Thank you. Best regards everyone!
anyone?
This would be very interesting stuff if it could be proven correct.
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Thanks for the reply. i know. Also this would help to avoid bricks and unecessary procedures. The porpuse of this threat is to understand what makes this happen in orther to avoid, and make everything functional.
I have no idea whether this makes sense or not. I also don't agree that "Solution found" (as in the topic) - rom cooks usually don't state the required radio version beyond 6.35.whatever or the equivalent for old radio, I don't know about any of them being aware of such a (hypothetical) requirement.
My understanding was that the different 6.35 variants are regional editions, and that using the wrong one for your part of the world might make your cellular telephony and/or networking operate suboptimally. Not that I have seen any proof that this actually happens. I guess nobody knows whether the radio stores persistent state of any sort, but I suppose somebody familiar with the kernel source might know whether anything the kernel does depends on the radio version (or minor version). Otherwise the radio requirement would stem only from the origin of the RIL libs and libgps, right?
I don't know much about any of this, so the above is just guesswork. Hopefully someone more informed will contribute to this thread.
drbobb said:
I have no idea whether this makes sense or not. I also don't agree that "Solution found" (as in the topic) - rom cooks usually don't state the required radio version beyond 6.35.whatever or the equivalent for old radio, I don't know about any of them being aware of such a (hypothetical) requirement.
My understanding was that the different 6.35 variants are regional editions, and that using the wrong one for your part of the world might make your cellular telephony and/or networking operate suboptimally. Not that I have seen any proof that this actually happens. I guess nobody knows whether the radio stores persistent state of any sort, but I suppose somebody familiar with the kernel source might know whether anything the kernel does depends on the radio version (or minor version). Otherwise the radio requirement would stem only from the origin of the RIL libs and libgps, right?
I don't know much about any of this, so the above is just guesswork. Hopefully someone more informed will contribute to this thread.
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I think you are right. Each version is about the region i didnt remember we had diferent GSM frequency around the globe.
what confuded me was that there was ROMS wich Devs said that in order to work we should have their Radio edition. Is this a real problem if we use other radio?
please I would request more cooperation on this post . Thank you!
The same thing happened to me today. I had tried a 2.1 ROM and returned to my 1,5 CursorSense and my GPS would not work. I found that reflashing the Radio cleared up the problem. There are several posts in the CursorSense thread that describe the problem and fix.
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The same thing happened to me today. I had tried a 2.1 ROM and returned to my 1,5 CursorSense and my GPS would not work. I found that reflashing the Radio cleared up the problem. There are several posts in the CursorSense thread that describe the problem and fix.
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whats the fix provided? Could you please redirect me to that fix? Thank you
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whats the fix provided? Could you please redirect me to that fix? Thank you
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Do a search on the CursorSense ROM Thread for GPS:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592856
thanks i didnt know there was a button search for thread. Very helpfull, i've been searching i found no fix. But if there is i must find out to see if is related.
Just confirmed something, this patch is not related to the GPS fix. GPS wont find location unless you reflash the rom of the location wich the rom was made for. Wich respects again this teory. I would request if possible someone to assist in this ! thanks
anyone? Big please?
i request again more knowlege please
It worked for me!
I went to 2.1 roms, then switched back to Cursorsense and lost GPS, so I reflashed Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_6.35.10.18 and it works!
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general
so... if i understand... we must flash each of those versions to see witch works?
mine works but only after using gps status aplication to get a fix
Draken Korin said:
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general
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How in the world is this not dev related???
Dont know ask the mods lol
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Can anyone tell me what is the new of Radio and spl for Magic?
Thankyou
exe127 said:
Can anyone tell me what is the new of Radio and spl for Magic?
Thankyou
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Can you tell us what your current spl and radio is?
By the way... how is this related to Apps or Games?
Wrong section and not enough information.
Give me one reason not to close this thread.
I'll move it to General but for future reference I'm going to start just deleting posts that aren't posted in the right section and the OP may even receive a ban for a day or two for repeated offenses. Just FYI.
When the ROM devs refer to the new radio they are refering to the 6.35 radio, im not going down to the exact number mines 6.35.08.29 for example (theres a slightly newer one) and I dont know what people really consider a new SPL (still noob here) but I've found most hacks are compatible with the 1.76.1007 SPL (enginereerings SPL I beleive) and majority of people seem to be running it including me Sorry if that was a little confusing lol
Have a good one mate.
As far as I know, the RADIO is the firmware which controls all communications (WiFi, 3G, Bluetooth...) and the SPL... good question!
It stands for Second Program Loader, essentially the Android Bootloader. It also provides some other functionalities like, f.i., boot options (recovery mode, fastboot, etc), it checks that the recovery ROM is digitally signed, contains the start up picture, etc.
I am not completely sure of what to do with it; some guides recommend to replace it with a engineered one, some others not, it seems to be required to update it to install the new recovery from Amon_RA....
I would like also to understand what is exactly the role of each part in this game and what are the dependencies in terms of updates: RECOVERY, SPL, RADIO and ROM.
Cheers.
Thankyou everyone.
My current Radio is 3.22.23.18
and 2010 spl,
is my radio is latest in 3 family?
I see G1 has 3.22.26.17, is it suitable for Magic?
Thankyou
anyone knows the new radio is 3.22.26.17 or 3.22.23.18 for Magic?
Thz in advance
Remember that 32A and 32B magics use different radios...