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hi
i was given a telus(canada) htc-p4000 that is completely stock(wm5.0).
what i want to do is update to windows mobile 6.1,i am not really concerned
with gps ,if it works ok, if not that's ok also.
i have read the faq and have been searching the site for 3 days and i cannot yet understand which rom i am supposed to download.so many different roms to choose from.
i can find no telus specific rom or program to flash my phone.
if anyone would like to point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated.
i read the faq/looked at the wiki and am still confused.
thanks in advance
jeff
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Best rom/radio combo for p4000 telus
hi
i have the 2.40 bootloader on the phone and i have flashed to the original telus software.
what i would like to know from a p4000 user is what is the best radio/rom version to use on my phone.
there are so many versions and none seem to be specifically for telus phones.
can you just pick the newest radio version and rom and flash away?
thanks from a noob
Yes i use radio 3.42.40 and then pick whichever rom you like best
hi. i just bought a tmobile hd2. some of my phones informations is:
spl-2.10.0000 8g xe
fcc id:nm8pb81120
os version 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
manila ver 2.5.20121412.2
rom 2.13.531.1 (90963) wwe
redio ver 2.10.50.26
protocol 15.39.50.07u
cpu 8250b
speed 1024mhz
ram 576 mb
flash size 1024mb
i've read lots of articles on this site. i suppose i'll need to instal another rom on my phone. i read a lot but i get little confused. i think first i have to instal HardSPL (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614) second i have to flash a radio and i can instal a rom. and on this page (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784) it says i don't need to flash a radio. which means that i just install hardspl and instal this rom... am i right?
can you guys help me what am i suppose to do... and which version of hardspl, radio and rom works well for me?
sory to ask lots of questions but i don't know enough about wm phones ( thanks for guides...
Hi, basic steps are
1. Backup your important data like contacts etc..
2. Its very IMPORTANT that you Flash HardSPL first before flashing any ROM (No worries,it only needs to be done once for you to enjoy subsequent custom ROMs). Version 2.08.HSPL is ok.
3. Browse the threads for a suitable "TMobile HD2 compatible ROM" or visit this link for comfirmed ROMs.
4. Perform a Hard reset after successfully flashing any of the ROMs
5. Enjoy!
i suggest u clear your schedule, get coffee, tea, drink(s) and visit This Link . It contains info and links to all the guides you can possibly need to push you and your device to a higher level. i wouldn't recommend trying android till you are very comfortable with flashing ROMs.
you dont need to worry about the radio just yet, because since you have a tmous phone, it already has a radio that will work with all tmous compatible roms anyway.
Well I'm gonna just say right now I'm not an expert or anything since I'm relatively new too. I'm just trying to help, I would however advise wait for a more experienced person to answer.
First, if you want to flash a ROM follow this guide for the TMOUS HD2's. It goes over how to do it, which ROMs are compatible and all that.
Yes, you do have to get HSPL (except I think there are methods when you don't, though that might just be for the international phones...). But to get HSPL you should probably use this. I don't know if it is the only thing that does it but it, from what I understand, is the most well known. It also keeps you from "bricking" your phone.
From what I understand the only time you have to flash a radio is if the ROM needs it, and the chefs will say if it needs a certain one or list ones that it works with on their ROM page. I think most of them support the radio that comes stock, though don't take my word for it. I would wait for someone else to confirm or re-explain this paragraph because I'm not completely for sure.
As for which ROM is right for you...well only you can answer that. They all are different and different ones have advantages over the others. You just gotta explore a little and see what looks nice. This is the list of ROMs that support the T-Mobile HD2 so stick to it. I don't know how up-to-date it is (meaning I don't know if there are any new ones or not) but stick to those, you can "brick" your phone otherwise.
I would however advise if you're new to WM phones to try out themes first. They are a lot safer and I don't think there is any chance of ruining your phone (the only reason I flashed mine is because I've done it with a different phone before and felt comfortable doing it). Don't do anything you are uncomfortable doing and understand all the risks that go into anything you do to your phone before you do them.
Sorry for the long post, just hope this helps a little.
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I just got double ninja'd
thaks everybody for all informations. i'm still reading to find out how to install a rom and which one is good. i liked enegy rom gtx themed. i'll take a try. just before doing something to my phone i'm just tring to learn more but i'll do it anyway with a goodway or hardway... i hope everythig goes well...
thanks again...
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thaks everybody for all informations. i'm still reading to find out how to install a rom and which one is good. i liked enegy rom gtx themed. i'll take a try. just before doing something to my phone i'm just tring to learn more but i'll do it anyway with a goodway or hardway... i hope everythig goes well...
thanks again...
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That's d spirit...You'll be amazed @ what the search function on XDA coughs up...Everything'll go well once u stick to d guides and TMobile compatibie ROMs & Radios.
i picked up this rom (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652649) but there is two options. 1) com5(c5) 2)com2(c2). i don't know what it means... and if want to install one of these roms do i have to flash a radio after installing hspl?
and what is the stock rom?
thanks again...
It looks like COM5 and COM2 are just different versions. COM5 offers more options it looks like though, but I'm not sure. Someone else can probably answer that a lot better than me. I am also unable to answer the radio question. Sorry.
As for stock ROM though, that is the ROM that came already on your HD2 when you got it.
Muzun28 said:
i picked up this rom (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652649) but there is two options. 1) com5(c5) 2)com2(c2). i don't know what it means... and if want to install one of these roms do i have to flash a radio after installing hspl?
and what is the stock rom?
thanks again...
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I see u picked out Kumar's ROM...Click Here for a thread on the definitions and differences between COMs...And No, you won't need to flash a radio after installing HSPL or a custom ROM (Unless you are having problems connecting to your network in which case, u need 2 be careful 2 flash a radio known to work with Tmobile HD2).
Stock ROM is the original/default ROM which TMobile shipped with your device. Follow this guide and you can grab the stock ROM from here. The Stock ROM has to be re-flashed to your device if u ever have to return it to Tmobile as flashing a custom ROM voids your warranty. Grab useful links and watch video tutorials here.
Hope dis helps ya.
thaks voncrane i learned a lot today...
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thaks voncrane i learned a lot today...
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You are welcome, we r all noobs on different levels..
Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
I am running the updated rom 2.13 I am on t-mobile though and I am able to use android all day but once I restart it reverts back to WM. So I am not sure if this helps you...I was able to get everything running but the calls sounded robotic. I read I needed to flash to a new rom.
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Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
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Well first, if you have the T-Mobile version of the phone, you do NOT want to use an update from the HTC site, that's for the euro version of the phone. The upgraded stock rom that you can use is available on T-Mobile's support page for the HD2.
Now, flashing to the correct updated ROM will not prevent you from doing anything...you'll still be able to unlock it later, you can still run Android, and you can still do any customizations you want. It's just a newer version of the stock ROM that originally came on the phone.
Hey, thanks so much guys, I'll search for the T-mobile page. I'm glad you guys caught it before I bricked me phone.
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term. Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one? I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should? Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
Poopmonkey said:
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term.
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one?
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That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should?
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There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
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That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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Wow, thank you so much sirphunkee, you sir are a scholar with your detailed response. Anyways, I apologize but I am intrigued by your response and more questions evolve. Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
Again I would like to sincerely thank you for everyone's patience with me, especially sirphunkee. Thank you.
No problem!
Poopmonkey said:
Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
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Most of the HD2's built or shipped in the past 2 months have the newer ROM on them, but even if yours doesn't then yes you can just go to the T-Mobile site and get the newer one.
Both of the stock ROM's have the radio(s) included, so you don't have to worry about it if you just stay with one of those ROM's. If you flash a custom ROM it (usually) won't have a radio included, it'll just use whatever radio was already on your phone (i.e. whatever one came with the stock ROM originally). You can flash to different radio versions....ONLY ones that are clearly labeled as being compatible with the US HD2...doesn't matter if you're running a stock or custom ROM, but it does require HSPL first before a radio can be flashed.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
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The original stock T-Mobile US ROM (yes, the one I'm running currently) is 2.10.531.1 ("2.10" for short), and the newer one that's been released is 2.13...so that pic you linked there just shows the stock upgrade utility about to upgrade a ROM to the new version (with an included radio).
You can tell what ROM/Radio is on your phone by reading the little text that appears on the bottom of the screen during bootup, and you can also access that info through a settings option once the phone is running.
"WWE" = "WorldWide English"....just means that I have an english-based ROM. Other languages are available by applying ROM's specifically built for that language, but I honestly don't even know if any exist for the T-Mobile HD2, I think they're only available for the euro model.
Since it's very easy to flash the upgraded stock ROM, if your phone comes with the older one I would just suggest running that for a few days and see if it gives you any headaches....if so, then just go ahead and flash to the newer one. There's a number of threads in this section that discuss the differences in the stock ROM's, and the advantages/disadvantages of each. Regardless of which stock ROM you have, the process to flash to a custom ROM is the same either way (HSPL, etc).
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
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HSPL is "permanent", in the sense that it remains on your phone until you manually flash a different HSPL (like flashing back to stock SPL should you need to return the phone for warranty reasons). Once you have HSPL (yes, a hard bootloader) on your phone (HSPL3 being the latest/best to use), you can flash all the different custom ROMs or radios that you want, without having to apply HSPL again.
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
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There a bunch of different things you can to to tweak a stock ROM, or to futher tweak a custom one, and BsB is just a nice tight convenient collection of some of the more common ones. I use BsB and don't have any issues related to it, but I also skip a few of the settings in it ("tap time" for example) that have caused issues for other users. Besides BsB, I also use HD2Tweak, JWMD Icon Changer, CHT/CHTE, as well as a whole list of other stand-alone tweaks that come in the form of cab files, or manual registry hacks...some are related to performance or function, while some are strictly visual or style tweaks.
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
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I originially thought the same (that Android ran in parallel with WM and that was causing the batt drain), but from what I read it actually shuts down WM when it runs, so I guess that isn't the cause of the drain...but honestly I haven't been able to keep up with all the finer details of the Android porting that's going on. And yes, a version of Androd that will load straight to NAND at bootup is the final hurdle I was talking about, and that's exactly what a number of dev's are trying very hard to make happen....I suspect that a breakthrough in that is right around the corner, but I'm no dev so take that with a grain of salt!
Hope that helps! It will be a lot easier once you have the unit in-hand and can play with it yourself. Also be sure to look over this thread (if you haven't already): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663845
Thank you again sirphunkee! Anyways I just got my hd2 and for the most part I like it. Though, I have a question, how can I backup my contacts so that after a new rom install I dont need to relink their facebook accounts again? Basically, I don't have the same names for my contacts, I only have first names so I have to redo it manually one by one and I want to use activesync to do it but it's telling me I need Outlook. Why do I need Outlook? Isn't that a stupid outdated email application? Also, how do you remove all the bloatware like blockbuster from the HD2? Is flashing a custom rom the only option?
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
anyone have a idea? I'd like to experiment with android but i wanna make sure i have the right settings to i dontt have a brick in my hands after I'm done.
Poopmonkey said:
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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I think what that thread is saying is that having a custom ROM is what helps with the stability of Android, not just putting HSPL3 on there (unless that's buried in that thread somewhere that I missed...). But yes, putting a custom ROM on the phone would have the prerequisite of HSPL anyway.
I don't have a custom ROM or even HSPL on my HD2, and I'm currently using the Desire v5 build of Android on here. It seems to run very stable, but I haven't yet gotten a few things working on it (i.e. 3G)...I can't say if a custom ROM would make those things work, but I can say it doesn't ever crash or hang or seem to slow down at all.
I just wanted you to know that HSPL wasn't mandatory for you to be able to try out Android on your phone.
Ok thank you so much sirphunkee again. Anyways, I'm wondering if you know why my weather will not update now when I ask it to on a Wifi connection. I try to update it and just says that its a connection error. And also my windows marketplace app installs seem to stall on the 3/4 complete and they never finish. Could you perhaps help me with that?
Lastly, I was wondering would you be able to tell me if I wanted to put a custom ROM on my HD2 what setting do I need to put on my HD2 for a successful flash?
FIND THE "ANDROID ON HD2" THREAD everything is explained.
hi all the issue i have is with the reception of my fm radio which is very poor i use the latest gtx nrg rom i have the impression that is a hardware problem do you have any suggestions or should i sent my hd to the service center?
Maybe try with different headphones first. The antenna is actually the wire of the headphones.
i tried that i also compared my hd with another one using the same headphones the difference to the reception was significant any other recommendations?
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i tried that i also compared my hd with another one using the same headphones the difference to the reception was significant any other recommendations?
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Ouch, sounds like a hardware issue which you can't do anything about but to claim warranty.
My experiences with this HTC FM receiver are very mixed.
It seems that the screencontroller causes alot of noise which you can clearly hear when you have weak reception and the screen turns off.
Another thing I have, also on the Touch Pro, is that sometimes the fm receiver goes in some slow mute, unmute etc like a slow oscillator.
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hi all the issue i have is with the reception of my fm radio which is very poor i use the latest gtx nrg rom i have the impression that is a hardware problem do you have any suggestions or should i sent my hd to the service center?
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Hi. I confirm to have exactly your problem. I used task29 to format the rom and flashed a lot of new rom but the problem is always present. I think it's not a hardware problem becouse the radio has bad reception but it function. I think it's a driver problem. Before i started to flash rom different from the original the radio was perfectly functioning. I noticed also that by flashing roms with windows mobile 6.1 compiled 1,5 years ago the radio had no problem. I've noticed this problem 4/5 months ago and i've also asked to various cooks which was the problem, but the answer was always the same the they do not had tested it. I've noticed that by installing the "power radio" software the reception is lightly better. This program uses different drivers.
The problems i have are these:
1) By making a scan radio doen not found any station "No station found" is the answer
2) By changin step by step the frequency i can listen various station
3) RDS is functioning only after for 1 or 2 station and after 1 or 2 minutes of listening.
4) By changing the headphones with other ones the problems are exactly the same.
Now i've have a NGR rom. The last one cooked on the 4 of september 2010. The problems are exactly the same.
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Hi. I confirm to have exactly your problem. I used task29 to format the rom and flashed a lot of new rom but the problem is always present. I think it's not a hardware problem becouse the radio has bad reception but it function. I think it's a driver problem. Before i started to flash rom different from the original the radio was perfectly functioning. I noticed also that by flashing roms with windows mobile 6.1 compiled 1,5 years ago the radio had no problem. I've noticed this problem 4/5 months ago and i've also asked to various cooks which was the problem, but the answer was always the same the they do not had tested it. I've noticed that by installing the "power radio" software the reception is lightly better. This program uses different drivers.
The problems i have are these:
1) By making a scan radio doen not found any station "No station found" is the answer
2) By changin step by step the frequency i can listen various station
3) RDS is functioning only after for 1 or 2 station and after 1 or 2 minutes of listening.
4) By changing the headphones with other ones the problems are exactly the same.
Now i've have a NGR rom. The last one cooked on the 4 of september 2010. The problems
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so did you find any solution for this or the problem stil persit .
Even iam the victim of this problem
No! I didn,t find a solution. I asked to a lot of cookers and they have been supposing the problem is due to the drivers.
You have to know that htc has developed proper radio fm drivers the cookers don't have.
So the problem is due to the flashing of a cooked rom different from the original one.
As in another post:
"Microsoft hasn't defined a tuner API for Windows Mobile platform (yet) and manufactures such as HTC do not publish their API for FM radio.
GFMAPI is an FM Radio interface that designed to be used on different models of Windows Mobile devices.
It makes all FM RDS based applications such as Radio players, Radio Alarm, TMC navigation works on different devices"
So the chipset of the blackstone radio FM is the "BRF6350 Chipset"
I hope the cookers will find a solution. I Doubt the problem is a hardware problem.
Just someone of you has to try the following: virginize the Htc Blackstone by installing the original rom and the original radio. The rom and radio when u bought the phone.
If the problem persists with the original rom is a hardware problem. So leave the phone to adjust by htc. Otherwise if it is functioning really well with the original htc rom, we could only hope the cookers will find a way to solve the problem in all the future rom.
i agree with you someone who has the original rom 6.1 has to try to find out if this is a hardware problem
maronna said:
No! I didn,t find a solution. I asked to a lot of cookers and they have been supposing the problem is due to the drivers.
You have to know that htc has developed proper radio fm drivers the cookers don't have.
So the problem is due to the flashing of a cooked rom different from the original one.
As in another post:
"Microsoft hasn't defined a tuner API for Windows Mobile platform (yet) and manufactures such as HTC do not publish their API for FM radio.
GFMAPI is an FM Radio interface that designed to be used on different models of Windows Mobile devices.
It makes all FM RDS based applications such as Radio players, Radio Alarm, TMC navigation works on different devices"
So the chipset of the blackstone radio FM is the "BRF6350 Chipset"
I hope the cookers will find a solution. I Doubt the problem is a hardware problem.
Just someone of you has to try the following: virginize the Htc Blackstone by installing the original rom and the original radio. The rom and radio when u bought the phone.
If the problem persists with the original rom is a hardware problem. So leave the phone to the adjust by htc. Otherwise if it is functioning really well with the original ht rom, we could only hope the cookers will find a way to solve the problem in all the future rom.
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Thnks for that, iam downloading the original rom.
will check and update you about the radio.
hightmare said:
i agree with you someone who has the original rom 6.1 has to try to find out if this is a hardware problem
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U will find your original rom here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Blackstone/Shipped_ROMs but i reccomend u to follow the correct flashing procedure of revirginizing.
pankajvg said:
Thnks for that, iam downloading the original rom.
will check and update you about the radio.
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Ok, i will wait for your news.
maronna said:
U will find your original rom here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Blackstone/Shipped_ROMs but i reccomend u to follow the correct flashing procedure of revirginizing.
Ok, i will wait for your news.
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Hi Maronna,
Your great , i just downloaded the Rom from HTC site .(Asia version dosent work so used US) This has Radio bundled in it .
Link
http://www.htc.com/in/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=698
The radio perfectly worked, so ideallys its a driver problem.
so we need to get our rom cookers to includde these drivers.
Thanks a lot .
So i was quite sure it was a driver problem. Generally hardware problems are different. For example: you are not able to listen to the radio fm any more.
I don't know why the cookers underevalue this big problem.
I discovered this problem for the first time with the IGO Navigator, becouse i tried to gain the TMC advices (of traffic) through the radio FM with a headphone wire. With the stock rom it was possible but with all the other ones not.
So i propose to all you to write to the cookers, NGR in particular (also if i've tried time ago), to try to solve the problem also if i doubt a solution will be found unless it will be possible to extract the API from the HTC roms... i think
Wow, that is weird!
I am using the NRG 8th of September rom and the radio works as expected.
I did not notice any difference from the stockrom
Can you try to flash the NRG rom again and check if it is still bad after the flash?
Also which HTC radio and rill are you using?
I'm on 1.17 and rill 1.15
lukesan said:
Wow, that is weird!
I am using the NRG 8th of September rom and the radio works as expected.
I did not notice any difference from the stockrom
Can you try to flash the NRG rom again and check if it is still bad after the flash?
Also which HTC radio and rill are you using?
I'm on 1.17 and rill 1.15
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Hi lukesan ,
can you give me the link for NRG 8th of September rom, i will try that .
but do you have the FM radio problem ?
secondly did it work after flashing this rom?
and your question about radio , i have tried all the versions but didnt work
pankajvg said:
Hi lukesan ,
can you give me the link for NRG 8th of September rom, i will try that .
but do you have the FM radio problem ?
secondly did it work after flashing this rom?
and your question about radio , i have tried all the versions but didnt work
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Hi Pankajvg,
Sure but I always shorten ENERGY to NRG
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562952
I use the GTX themed ones. They are really beautiful and the new versions are fast.
The download link is in post 2 on that first page.
And no I don't have the described problem with the radio that the thead starter and other have.
I still feel a bit uncomfy about the driver being the issue. Maybe affected users have a different model type. Do you actually have no reception at all ??
There are many variables that would be causing this but I have never actually used the standard HTC radio.
I use powerradio from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531600
The radio and rom work perfectly, even being 10km up in the sky ;-)
I would also check the radio version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466274
The one I use is 1.17... which I find to work perfectly, nice clean GSM signal, almost instant GPS lock etc.
Let us all know your result so the rest can benefit of the result.
Hi Lukesan,
I have already tried with Power radio , but didnt help.
Iam downloading the NRG rom , will flash and update you shortly.
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Hi Lukesan,
I have already tried with Power radio , but didnt help.
Iam downloading the NRG rom , will flash and update you shortly.
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Tried the NRG rom with 1.17 Radio, but didnt help.
its the same issue.
IaM rolling back to different rom as this ROM has issue with Active syn.
Active sync fails for Exchange account which is very imprtant for my official mails.
pankajvg said:
Tried the NRG rom with 1.17 Radio, but didnt help.
its the same issue.
IaM rolling back to different rom as this ROM has issue with Active syn.
Active sync fails for Exchange account which is very imprtant for my official mails.
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Wow seems you have multiple issues.
I'm running that rom and have no issue with my exchange account or radio.
Any way to isolate the files needed for the fm radio from the original rom and incorperate them in another?
Also which original rom are you guys trying? Might be worth to try one from another country and check if yours might be different hardware.
The other question remains, no reception at all or just bad reception?
As described in my first post the problem is bad reception.
I've istalled GTX rom from NRG since 8th of september. I had been flashing at about 200 / 300 rom. I confirm to have the same problem with all the roms 6.5 6.5.x except for the original htc and some other roms with 6.1 by maryone, Luca Picci.
I've also flashed from the first to the last radio (reception) and relative dll. Same problem.
The only exception i had was with a Maryone rom 6.5.5
As I told before the absense of signal is a hardware problem. The bad reception not. The chipset receives the electrical impulses.
May be your blackstone is newer or older than ours and it could have another fm chipset inside. I never told radio was no functioning at all.
Bye
can we have some solution for this .
iam really helpless now.
Hello,
I have a HD2 and it is Completely Stock, I want to know how to get the latest and best sense version of android working on it. Can someone please help me by giving me a tutorial?
How do I know what Radio Version I have?
I looked at this thread and was wondering if it is the latest walkthrough:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Here is the ROM I want to Flash (I want to NAND Flash it):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962600
Can someone please help me?
Thanks
gokuman56 said:
Hello,
I have a HD2 and it is Completely Stock, I want to know how to get the latest and best sense version of android working on it. Can someone please help me by giving me a tutorial?
How do I know what Radio Version I have?
I looked at this thread and was wondering if it is the latest walkthrough:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Here is the ROM I want to Flash (I want to NAND Flash it):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962600
Can someone please help me?
Thanks
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that walkthru seems to be what you need, but the rom is a Clockwork Recovery Mod rom that is flashed from the sd card, so you need to flash the CWM after the MGLDR, but before the rom, you also need to find out what rom partition you need for the CWM, sense roms usually use around 400mb, so look in the sticky roll up thread where you found the walkthru and you will see the Clockwork Mod thread, and you'll have to ask in the rom thread what partition you need.
how to get the latest and best sense version of android working on it?
- Seems difficult. At first, you have to know how to make a ROM
How do I know what Radio Version I have?
- In the setting meu, you will find out the radio versio.
Look, you don't have to know how to make a rom, you're not reading what I'm telling you, if you want a rom with the latest sense, find one that you can flash that has it already cooked in it, like the incredible s/vivo port. Just find any sense rom that you like and learn how to flash it, you don't even know how to flash and you're getting concern with rom making! There's a bunch of roms with sense on them but only a few with the sense 2.1, is not like they can just throw it in a rom and that's it, they have to work out the bugs and make it compatible with our hd2.
assortiment said:
how to get the latest and best sense version of android working on it?
- Seems difficult. At first, you have to know how to make a ROM
How do I know what Radio Version I have?
- In the setting meu, you will find out the radio versio.
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I got it, thanks
assortiment said:
How do I know what Radio Version I have?
- In the setting meu, you will find out the radio versio.
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You can reboot your phone and there are three lines of numbers in the first boot at the bottom of the screen that will look like this example: R.2.08.50.15, or this if an old Europe hd2, R.2.07.51.xx, the radio has to be a 50 on the 3rd section of numbers if US, if US hd2 you cannot flash a 51 radio or YOU WILL BRICK IT, TOTALLY BREAK YOUR PHONE!!!!! you need radio 2.15.50.14 for best performance in android, US or EU.
You can also go into your settings in windows mobile and check your software info and it should give you the rom and radio number.
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