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[Q] Anything better than Fascinate?

Are there any phones better than the Fascinate being released around christmas? I am going to return this phone and will be able to choose any carrier within the US, any suggestions as to what is or will be a better phone?

There will always be better phones coming out. And they will get exponentially better. You just have to choose when to jump in, choose the one you like, and be happy with your decision.

I know that Verizon has a bunch of world phones lined up to be released in the next month or so, as well as a bunch of non-world phones. AT&T and T-Mobile with have a bunch of WP7 devices, if you want something non-Android. I haven't seen much about Sprint releases, but I'm guessing they'll have something new to try and keep up with all the new devices the other carriers are getting as well.

phoenx06 said:
There will always be better phones coming out.
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Exactly. The next gen will be dual-core, but nothing besides that will be a real improvement.

Is there a phone coming out that will have a SAMOLED screen with higher resolution? I really dont like being able to see pixels on this phone.

nothing in the next few months.

ilogik said:
Is there a phone coming out that will have a SAMOLED screen with higher resolution? I really dont like being able to see pixels on this phone.
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The iPhone is the only phone that has a higher resolution screen. There are others with a slightly greater resolution, but it's only a marginal difference. If you can see the pixels though, you must really be staring at the screen close as it looks fine to me from a normal viewing distance.

ilogik said:
Is there a phone coming out that will have a SAMOLED screen with higher resolution? I really dont like being able to see pixels on this phone.
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ilogik said:
Is there a phone coming out that will have a SAMOLED screen with higher resolution? I really dont like being able to see pixels on this phone.
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I don't think you're crazy, coming from my moto droid I too noticed "pixels" in this screen. It's more kind of like a screen door affect.. not a bad thing, just a difference between the two technologies. Small price to pay for how vibrant the colors are and how it sips battery in comparison imo.

ilogik said:
any suggestions as to what is or will be a better phone?
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The one that comes out 4 months after the one you just got. And keep repeating.
Your main gripe with the fascinate is pixels?
good day.

chopper the dog said:
The one that comes out 4 months after the one you just got. And keep repeating.
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chopper the dog said:
The one that comes out 4 months after the one you just got. And keep repeating.
Your main gripe with the fascinate is pixels?
good day.
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Yea I hate those pixels I have an iphone 4 for work so whenever I pick up my fascinate those pixels jump out right at me But GPS and the lag is making me return the phone, its like it has to be rebooted every few days or it just starts to slow down. And yes I have the lag fix installed.
I understand the phones will get better but the reason I asked the original question is because I have a few days left to return it and most carriers will release new handsets for xmas.

ilogik said:
Yea I hate those pixels I have an iphone 4 for work so whenever I pick up my fascinate those pixels jump out right at me But GPS and the lag is making me return the phone, its like it has to be rebooted every few days or it just starts to slow down. And yes I have the lag fix installed.
I understand the phones will get better but the reason I asked the original question is because I have a few days left to return it and most carriers will release new handsets for xmas.
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That's just how Android is. A daily reboot should be no big deal, and it will keep it running fast. It's just from how it handles RAM.
The Galaxy S's are easily the best Android devices ATM. And if better phones come out, I don't really think you would see a difference. Games run well above 30 fps, so you wouldn't notice any gain there. And the CPU makes everything very smooth and fast. Perhaps things would load a few milliseconds faster, but I don't care. It'll easily last me 2 years. I couldn't stand the slowness of my Droid any more, so I jumped on the free phone friday promotion. And I sure am glad I did.

ilogik said:
Yea I hate those pixels I have an iphone 4 for work so whenever I pick up my fascinate those pixels jump out right at me But GPS and the lag is making me return the phone, its like it has to be rebooted every few days or it just starts to slow down. And yes I have the lag fix installed.
I understand the phones will get better but the reason I asked the original question is because I have a few days left to return it and most carriers will release new handsets for xmas.
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Nothing that ive seen in the queue for the immediate future better. Froyo is heading out soon, which will correct most of the issues and put us firmly at the top of the benchmarks, but good luck with your decision.
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Silly rabbit smart phones aren't for everyone. One of the best phones out to date and so many complaints. Some people are never satisfied.looking through these forums reminds me that there is a need for dumb phones still lol.
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Captivate to Atrix...Should I do it?

My sister will give me her upgrade if I give her my Captivate. I use Cog 4 currently and I am happy with the device except gps.
If anyone jumped from Captivate to Atrix, what are your thoughts.
I'm also debating on just waiting for GS2 for AT&T.
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I also have a Captivate running Cognition and I prefer the Atrix in every way.

MrTrunks said:
My sister will give me her upgrade if I give her my Captivate. I use Cog 4 currently and I am happy with the device except gps.
If anyone jumped from Captivate to Atrix, what are your thoughts.
I'm also debating on just waiting for GS2 for AT&T.
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try the official froyo update, from what i have read the gps works.
if it doesn't and it's important to you then get the atrix.
otherwise keep your cappy and wait for the galaxy S 2 or something else

I'm in the same boat, and from what I've been reading in these forums, people don't seem all that incredibly happy with the Atrix. I'm planning on waiting for the Galaxy S 2 myself. I don't know if I can deal with a non-SAMOLED screen now that I've had one!

I have the Atrix and the Captivate. I am happier with my Captivate than with my Atrix. Although I do like the power the Atrix has but I prefer the media support for the Captivate and I prefer Amoleds to the Atrix's display. Download speeds are disappointing too, considering it's supposed to be 4g. The Captivate gets faster speedtest results. Atrix's Hd video playback for mkv files is really choppy and embarrasing for a dual core phone. My recommendation would be to hold out for the S2. Quadrant scores aren't that impressive considering a single core Nexus S is on par with the Atrix. Quadrant Score for Atrix is in the 2500s where as the Nexus S was in the low 2000s untouched. I'm trying to give the Atrix a fair trial, but for now it seems as though it will be returned. I'll be waiting for the S2 or the Infuse.

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I have the Atrix and the Captivate. I am happier with my Captivate than with my Atrix. Although I do like the power the Atrix has but I prefer the media support for the Captivate and I prefer Amoleds to the Atrix's display. Download speeds are disappointing too, considering it's supposed to be 4g. The Captivate gets faster speedtest results. Atrix's Hd video playback for mkv files is really choppy and embarrasing for a dual core phone. My recommendation would be to hold out for the S2. Quadrant scores aren't that impressive considering a single core Nexus S is on par with the Atrix. Quadrant Score for Atrix is in the 2500s where as the Nexus S was in the low 2000s untouched. I'm trying to give the Atrix a fair trial, but for now it seems as though it will be returned. I'll be waiting for the S2 or the Infuse.
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Im returning my atrix. Im running serendipity 5.11 on my cap and I noticed that motoblur is far slower than my cap, I use launcher pro also. I don't care about the screen (its a phone and its plenty crisp an image, I have a laptop and a desktop for quality.)
I didn't test the gps. I thought the camera over all wasn't as good as the cap, but thays probably a software issue not hardware. Though its disappointing that companies (samsung included) release these phone and advertise and price them as the next best thing while including hardware, I.e. camera sensor, That has been around for a while already and is subpar to some phone that are a year old already.
It obvioulsy performs tasks quicker than the captivate because of the dual core, but I don't see the benefits yet, I can wait.
I will wait until there are hacks if I really want it but for now the price att wants does not support the benefits. The real reason to get one is the dock and they've made that so expensive and trying to call it tethering using the dock when its all phone is dumb. I was told buy my friends at att tell me I can't keep my unlimited and add tethering either.(edit, clarify, I can't add tethering if I want to keep my unlimited plan, its one or the other)
Over all, im not impressed. But im sure it will get better with updates. Im gonna stick it out for a while with the cap and see what happens. I may give the new htc one a go first, its not faster than the cap, but its got a bigger screen and camera sensor so....
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See the GPS thread. THE ATRIX GPS WORKS!
Cappy doesn't. Atrix does.
Yeah, it really is that simple. Cappy is a little slimmer and lighter and has a nice bright screen--but who cares if the GPS will never work? And after two or three bogus fixes were issued and announced...who wants to wait and see?
And for the first time in all these years...a phone I've bought HAS A MESSAGE LIGHT! I can't tell you how nice a litle perq that is. Cappy doesn't have it.
Now, if they'd only put in a hole for a tether cord, because I'm often in places where a phone really doesn't want to get dropped.
Cappy gone. Hello Moto.

I have had 3 Captivates since they were released, and now I have an Atrix and Nexus One. Guess what, the Atrix is the best of all those. The Captivate is simply a garbage device, no way around it. No LED flash, no front facing camera, no LED notification, garbage GPS, slower, comes with trash TouchWiz, etc.

Rred said:
See the GPS thread. THE ATRIX GPS WORKS!
Cappy doesn't. Atrix does.
Yeah, it really is that simple. Cappy is a little slimmer and lighter and has a nice bright screen--but who cares if the GPS will never work? And after two or three bogus fixes were issued and announced...who wants to wait and see?
Cappy gone. Hello Moto.
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While I loved my Captivate, I must agree with you. Even with the best custom ROM for GPS (Paragon 6), GPS is hit or miss. Side by side, my wife's iPhone 4 and my Samsung Focus get a GPS lock much faster than the Captivate in difficult situations (indoors, cloudy day etc). I hope that the Atrix is better at this.
Another issue with the Captivate was battery life, which I hope the Atrix will be better at. Cheers.

MrTrunks said:
My sister will give me her upgrade if I give her my Captivate. I use Cog 4 currently and I am happy with the device except gps.
If anyone jumped from Captivate to Atrix, what are your thoughts.
I'm also debating on just waiting for GS2 for AT&T.
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The gps with Cog 4 is so much better than it has ever been since the Captivate came out. It locks on pretty quick and it's pretty accurate on location as well. My gps never worked until now.

lost2030 said:
The gps with Cog 4 is so much better than it has ever been since the Captivate came out. It locks on pretty quick and it's pretty accurate on location as well. My gps never worked until now.
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People say that every time, but yet it's still the same. It's a hardware issues plain and simple.

Squeak22 said:
People say that every time, but yet it's still the same. It's a hardware issues plain and simple.
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Yep. Regardless of ROM, my GPS on every Captivate I have owned has been entirely broken. 10+ minutes in an open parking lot, no signal lock. Atrix locks in my car in 5 seconds.

I made the same change from the Captivate to Atrix. Overall I've had a good experience with the Atrix. My biggest complaint at this point is Moto Blur. It's just crap. IF you decide to get the Atrix just be prepared for the different screen. The Amoled screen is better than the screen on the Atrix. I do miss that a little bit. But then I dock it on the Lapdock and forget all about it

I got an atrix on day one on day two i boxed it back up am taking it back monday. After samoled i cold not take that screen. It was simply horrible to me. I am going to wait to see what samsung, htc, and apple bring out this summer.

AJerman said:
I'm in the same boat, and from what I've been reading in these forums, people don't seem all that incredibly happy with the Atrix. I'm planning on waiting for the Galaxy S 2 myself. I don't know if I can deal with a non-SAMOLED screen now that I've had one!
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Hmm; have you compared the two side by side? The Atrix is a lot clearer and has a higher resolution.
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I have switched as well and I love the phone. Very fast, great life, and better durability.
I'm going to be ordering a case in a few hours and getting the laptop dock in a few days.
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Atrix is wonderful
Atrix is a wonderful experience, especially compared to the Captivate which was horrible, especially after loading in all of my apps the Captivate just froze with everything....the Atrix flies! Get Launcher Pro and forget Motoblur, it sucks.

I thought about it. I work for the Shack an get a pretty good discount on the atrix but I am simply in love with my captivate. Love the amoled. Love the huge selection of custom roms. The phone is extremely snappy running paragon. I am just 100% satisfied with the captivate.
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What about someone coming from a uk dhd, nexus s.... then a telus dhd.... my current desire hd, having hspa.... is great IMO, battery life could be better, but I have an extra battery...
Oh well, it will be here in 10 days, I guess that will decide all... but it is going to have to be great.... to make me ditch my dhd running cm7!

I'm torn in this decision too. I currently have a Nexus One and a Captivate. I was really thinking of selling the Captivate and getting either the Inspire or the Atrix. I messed around with both for about an hour and can honestly say I was a little let down by the Atrix. I really want to like this phone but I personally think the screen compared to the Captivate is just plain dull. Yeah, it has a higher res screen and I can appreciate that. BUT, the colors on the SAMOLED have spoiled me. I don't know what to do. The performance with a live wallpaper on my friend's Atrix was, frankly, pretty dang lousy for a phone that everyone has been raving about in terms of its speed. With a regular wallpaper the phone is certainly faster but it still didn't just blow me away. Also, the plastic build materials left a sour taste. Again, I really want to like this phone. I guess I'll check it out again and maybe have a change of heart. Anyone else think the way I do as far as the screen?

Just got Nexus s 4G and guess what ??

its damn slower than my htc evo shift...seriously not like in opening app and other stuff like launcher but in typing and touching screen have to press lil bit twice almost most of the time..charging slower than my htc shift...and it eats up all the ram everytime i open and see in task killer only shows 60m..where in shift it was always around 80 to 90m remaining same apps and everything infact not running any htc apps..and no notification lights no for charging and non for text or anything
i would suggest you guys to stick with shift and just dont worry too much about updates..wish htc had made this one too just like nexus one
just my opinion

Got mine a few days ago and is hella nicer than the shift (course rooted) think maybe you got a bad device

corybucher said:
Got mine a few days ago and is hella nicer than the shift (course rooted) think maybe you got a bad device
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yeah. ns is wayyyy betta.

Thats made by crapsung?
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Why gotta hate on Samsung, just as nice as HTC.
Plus when Honey Comb comes out for phones guess whos gonna get it first

corybucher said:
Why gotta hate on Samsung, just as nice as HTC.
Plus when Honey Comb comes out for phones guess whos gonna get it first
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The next gen Nexus by LG that will launch with ICS?

BrandoKC said:
The next gen Nexus by LG that will launch with ICS?
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LMAO!!..

When I leave this phone, it will be multi core(so not a nexus s), it will not have a locked/cryptographic signed loader(so not an evo 3d), and it will preferably be a four inch or smaller screen (I may have to concede on this one though the way they are going)
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corybucher said:
Why gotta hate on Samsung, just as nice as HTC.
Plus when Honey Comb comes out for phones guess whos gonna get it first
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Wouldn't get my hopes up for Honeycomb, Google pretty much stated HC is tablet only and Ice Cream Sandwich is going to replace both Honeycomb & Gingerbread by the end of the year. So more then likely we'll get ICS long before we see HC for phones.

danaff37 said:
When I leave this phone, it will be multi core(so not a nexus s), it will not have a locked/cryptographic signed loader(so not an evo 3d), and it will preferably be a four inch or smaller screen (I may have to concede on this one though the way they are going)
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I'm in the same boat as you...except for screen size. No way I'm "upgrading" to anything but a dual core at this point. --------> Photon 4G or Sunfire or whatever it will be called

corybucher said:
Why gotta hate on Samsung, just as nice as HTC.
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not crapsung thats for sure. i will never own another crapsung. maybe you got lucky and they fixed those data lock issues finally

foxsdaddy67 said:
not crapsung thats for sure. i will never own another crapsung. maybe you got lucky and they fixed those data lock issues finally
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I'm guessing you had a Moment? The Transform is actually pretty nice for a low to mid level device.

I would also have to agree that when I switch from my shift a dual core is a must. As far as the Nexus S I wasn't impressed by it's design nor its specs. No expandable memory being on of the biggies. And no improvement in processor versus previous galaxy s phones, not 100% sure. I can't see what this device has that makes it superior to others, rather than just being vanilla android.
I'm not happy with Samsung's plasticy feel of their devices either. Makes them feel cheap. I do like the AMOLED screens but not the dotted effect that some (including me) can see.
However, I am seriously giving the Galaxy S II phones consideration when choosing my next device. Specs wise seems rather nice. Has dual core processor, nice camera, and expandable memory. And the Super Amoled Plus screen seems to correct the dotted effect of the previous Amoled screens as the rgb colors are evenly presented.

symond said:
its damn slower than my htc evo shift...seriously not like in opening app and other stuff like launcher but in typing and touching screen have to press lil bit twice almost most of the time..charging slower than my htc shift...and it eats up all the ram everytime i open and see in task killer only shows 60m..where in shift it was always around 80 to 90m remaining same apps and everything infact not running any htc apps..and no notification lights no for charging and non for text or anything
i would suggest you guys to stick with shift and just dont worry too much about updates..wish htc had made this one too just like nexus one
just my opinion
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You my friend need to root your phone. Secondly, the nexus S 4G has not been out very long, and samsung is typically slow on the updates. I do not know if you ever had an EVO 4G (not shift), but when i originally had mine, it was absolutly horrible in terms of responsiveness and battery life (battery still sucks). This was 3 months after its release.

Why is this in the shift forum? Not to be an ass but I don't think this is necessary or productive. We need an offtopic forum lol
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dabiddabird said:
I would also have to agree that when I switch from my shift a dual core is a must. As far as the Nexus S I wasn't impressed by it's design nor its specs. No expandable memory being on of the biggies. And no improvement in processor versus previous galaxy s phones, not 100% sure. I can't see what this device has that makes it superior to others, rather than just being vanilla android.
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This is just a guess, but I think ALOT when on behind the scenes on the Nexus that we don't know about. I mean how would google allow their flagship phone to come out with technology that is outdated by almost a year? I think this phone was in development, and got held up, and by the time assembly on it started it was too late to scrap it. That's why there is another rumored Nexus that should be ready come Holiday season. Have to make up for your mistake somehow.

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doesn't matter in this case, like any Nexus phone

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This is just a guess, but I think ALOT when on behind the scenes on the Nexus that we don't know about. I mean how would google allow their flagship phone to come out with technology that is outdated by almost a year? I think this phone was in development, and got held up, and by the time assembly on it started it was too late to scrap it. That's why there is another rumored Nexus that should be ready come Holiday season. Have to make up for your mistake somehow.
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Yea I agree with you. I didn't think Google would have purposefully put out a technologically inferior flagship device unless they had issues while developing.

If other galaxy s phones are any indication, probably took that long to get gps working.
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lol
i love my shift but can do with out sprint seeps i mean i get like .45mbps i want 100mbps at min uggggg come on sprint

HTC Sensation suffers from death grip same as iphone 4

HTC sensation will be released soon and I know some of you are planning to jump ship. What you probably haven't heard about is the dreaded death grip issue it suffers from. Yes, the same issue the iphone 4 experienced but this time it also affects the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connectivity of the Sensation.
gsmarena did an article about it complete with video.
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nah! now if this was a hercules bad news article then id be worried! id only leave my vibrant for that. Sucks to be HTC.....

movieaddict said:
nah! now if this was a hercules bad news article then id be worried! id only leave my vibrant for that. Sucks to be HTC.....
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Sucks to hear although there are some crappy fixes that involve foil. I'm super tempted to buy one but so far from the videos it looks like it has a screen that looks as crappy/dull as the DroidX.

Every phone has its faults. Get over it.

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Every phone has its faults. Get over it.
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True. The vibrant is pretty damn good though. I'll take faulty gps over a lot of other things that could have been wrong. But I still want a sensation. I may be able to give my wife my vibrant, and get the sensation, then when the GS2 arrives at verizon, I can upgrade my work phone and get that. I love being awesome. kidding.

I can do the death-grip on my Vibrant.
So there's that...

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I can do the death-grip on my Vibrant.
So there's that...
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It's even worse on the sensation.

HTC quality control recently has just been crap overall. Dust issues, touchscreen issues, bad eMMC chips on the Mytouch 4g and G2, etc. Makes me happy that Samsung's hardware is still relatively bug free,

My vibrant, heck, any phone with an internal antenna for that matter, does the same thing. Try it yourself. Hold the phone as you usually would in a place that would give you, say, 2 bars. Then turn the phone upside down. You will see an increase of, at a minimum, 1-2 bars.
I've done this with various kernels on CM7. The its amazing. Sometimes I go from 0 bars to 3 or 4.
Lastly, my son has an htc sensation and so far its a love fest.
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The sensation screen is a big turn off. Even G2X with lcd bleed looks better

Droidicus said:
My vibrant, heck, any phone with an internal antenna for that matter, does the same thing. Try it yourself. Hold the phone as you usually would in a place that would give you, say, 2 bars. Then turn the phone upside down. You will see an increase of, at a minimum, 1-2 bars.
I've done this with various kernels on CM7. The its amazing. Sometimes I go from 0 bars to 3 or 4.
Lastly, my son has an htc sensation and so far its a love fest.
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You really need to get over your son. no one cares about what phone he has.
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HTC quality control recently has just been crap overall. Dust issues, touchscreen issues, bad eMMC chips on the Mytouch 4g and G2, etc. Makes me happy that Samsung's hardware is still relatively bug free,
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Thats true, mine has a bad chip, my moms has a bad chip, i bricked one with a bad chip (mytouch 4G
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That's hilarious ..I never heard of that and sure enough turned my phone over and 2 more bars
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No matter what im getting the the sensation. I messed with vibrant so much had it for a while. I hate this phone. The only thing good is thay its not lcd so the screen never cracks. I want all the features. People always talks **** about new devices. Vibrant isnt so great. When u get a new vibrant. You have to do so much updating and flashing and lag fixing before it works any good. So im ready for a big screen and dual core,1.2ghz with front having camera. I love htc they have some of the best manufactered phones. High quality build
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PreVayl said:
No matter what im getting the the sensation. I messed with vibrant so much had it for a while. I hate this phone. The only thing good is thay its not lcd so the screen never cracks. I want all the features. People always talks **** about new devices. Vibrant isnt so great. When u get a new vibrant. You have to do so much updating and flashing and lag fixing before it works any good. So im ready for a big screen and dual core,1.2ghz with front having camera. I love htc they have some of the best manufactered phones. High quality build
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Yes, except software is mostly fixable with custom roms. With HTC, you will have a crapload of unfixable hardware issues. The newest KB5 official update on the Vibrant has already improved much of responsiveness of the device. I am sure that even if you get the Sensation, you will be flashing a ton anyways since Sense 3.0 is said to be less responsive than a stock Desire HD.

PreVayl said:
No matter what im getting the the sensation. I messed with vibrant so much had it for a while. I hate this phone. The only thing good is thay its not lcd so the screen never cracks. I want all the features. People always talks **** about new devices. Vibrant isnt so great. When u get a new vibrant. You have to do so much updating and flashing and lag fixing before it works any good. So im ready for a big screen and dual core,1.2ghz with front having camera. I love htc they have some of the best manufactered phones. High quality build
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XPLANE9 said:
Yes, except software is mostly fixable with custom roms. With HTC, you will have a crapload of unfixable hardware issues. The newest KB5 official update on the Vibrant has already improved much of responsiveness of the device. I am sure that even if you get the Sensation, you will be flashing a ton anyways since Sense 3.0 is said to be less responsive than a stock Desire HD.
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I gotta agree XPLANE9. I was 100% in the camp for an HTC Sensation. My Vibrant GPS got borked a month or two back because of BiWinning V2, after Odin to Stock failed to fix it and after screwing around with CM7 for a month, I got tired of it and went back to the Vibrant and somehow my GPS fixed itself after a 2nd Odin to stock after CM7.
I have the hardware GPS fix for great reception now, a front facing camera that works quite well, and a perfect form factor. I even walked into Wal-Mart and asked if they had a Sensation in stock for me to purchase. I almost got it, but thought to myself: There's just not enough that the Sensation offers that makes it worth it. With the hardware GPS fix I've done, and the FFC I added, the Vibrant hardware has everything I need. The screen on the Sensation is a step down, the extra screen space is nice, but I really do like the 4" my Vibrant gives me every night (oyeah). It's not an HSPA+ device - just another 14.4 device. And the dual-core still chokes on Sense 3.0, so that'll inevitably need tweaking assuming the hardware doesn't come up with any more defects.
I'll wait for the Hercules.

I think in the end, it's all user preference.
I too have the vibrant but will be getting the sensation tomorrow.
There will never be a perfect phone. We have to remember we all were disappointed with the gps issue but worked around it.
If you end up with a bad phone, we have the option to return it for a refund.
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I was on the "100% Sensation" bandwagon for a while, but I though
"Why get the Sensation when Samsung said they'd step up their update process (which the phone I'm getting, the SGS2 unbranded, will be getting updates), their hardware is superior (and you rarely get a bad phone), and HTC hasn't posted IF they'll unlock the bootloader on the Sensation, while the SGS2 ships with an unlocked bootloader."
So now, I'm getting the SGS2, and I can't wait to get it.

Galaxy S II on ATT Oct 2nd $199

Sorry if its a repost. So whos going to upgrade!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/21/...akes-its-atandt-debut-october-2nd-for-199-on/
Im not biased to any phone. I like anything new and high powered. Cant get me wrong I love my Atrix but the Galaxy S II is tempting.

i'm pretty happy with my Atrix, i think i'm gonna hold off on upgrading until a decent quad core phone comes out on the market.

Not enough of an upgrade to think about it.
The Devs have really just started to take this phone to its capabilities so worth hanging in for a while longer.
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When the SGSII came out back in... May(ish), it seems liked I should have not gotten an Atrix and waited for the SGSII to come to AT&T. the SGSII had a bigger screen, faster CPU, no Blur, no locked bootloader, and already had a pre-beta of Cyanogen out within two weeks of the phone hitting the international market.
Fast Foward to today. The Atrix has an unlocked bootloader, a *solid* beta of CM7, MIUI in the works, a bigger battery, and the performance is close to that of the SGS (in CM7 while OC'd) - in some tests it is noticeabley faster.
The SGSII also seems to have some hardware issues that have been reported. Yellowing of the screen on the left side is the most reported issue.
Now look to the future because the SGSII isn't going to come out for another two weeks. Should we have all waited to get an SGSII? No way, not IMHO. I was sitting on an iPhone 3GS for months and months after I was eligible for an upgrade, I was just waiting until something big came out or the phone died. I'll be honest, at first I did regret my Atrix purchase at times. Software versus 4.1.26 had a TON of bugs in it, 4.1.57 did too. 4.1.83 was solid, and when we got GB the phone was pretty solid. Now with CM7 I have no complaints over the phone at all, and I'm glad I didn't suffer with my iPhone 3GS for the last 7 months (I bougt the Atrix on release day) waiting for the SGSII after returning the Atrix to wait for the SGSII.
If I had waited this long for the SGSII with my iPhone 3GS, I would likely pass up the SGSII and wait for more info on the Nexus Prime.
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One thing I don't miss going from my captivate to atrix is in the power usage menu "display" being like 95%. I don't know why they say SAMOLED use less power. I know the screen on the sgs and sgs2 is different but they're close enough IMO. Also after all the BS with GPS and poor update from Samsung I don't know if I could buy another. As far as specs....IMO I don't think it's worth the upgrade the specs are really similar. The only reason I might be tempted is for the dev support.
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as someone who has had both i can assure you the atrix is a much more all-around solid piece of hardware.
like reported above the screen on the SGSii may be bigger but it has its issues (yellow left on most handsets and battery consumption).
the battery is simply way worse then atrix.
and what got to me the most about going back to the atrix was the sound quality, it was simply horrendous, especially for a high-end phone like that.
the sound chip on it is sub-par compared to the original SGS even, with high end headphones i was getting distortions, low volume, and very un-even sound, to anyone who wants to listen to music on his phone this one simply kills the deal.
atrix has a very very good audio experience compared.
same goes for call quality.
and the phone doesnt even have a led for notifications.
also doesnt have an hdmi-out without you buying some special cable adapter.
what does seem to be on its side is a huge dev base working on it and realeasing things daily but the atrix is starting to catch up... just give it some time.
either way upgrading from a atrix to a galaxy 2 is pretty stupid, except for a bit larger screen you really dont get anything in return for all that cash.
i'd wait atleast another year before ditching the atrix. theres simply nothing today that it cant handle so why buy another "future proof" phone when your current one is still "future proof"

Definitely sticking with my atrix <3
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It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.

i just upgraded this july so no sgsII for me. the galaxy was going to be my upgrade, but it just took too long to come out. also, it's not gonna be the latest and greatest anymore like it would've been when it came out internationally, the sgsIII will probably be out internationally in 6 months since most phone lines get upgraded yearly.
my friend mentioned the PS Vita yesterday and i'm doing research on that to see if it has enough functions to become a phone for me.

s1mpd1ddy said:
... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.
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I'd rather have an atrix with an average screen than have a SAMOLED that destroys my battery. I have an upgrade available and being 100% honest I'm waiting for a new BB QNX mobile phone to drop next year. The new 9810 with os7 was actually a pretty big step forward in speed and functionality and supposedly QNX will be able to run Android apps as well. Not saying it's gonna be the king of phones but it looks pretty cool.
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My wife is getting it in October, about 2 weeks after it comes out. She is already in love with it and the fact that we are getting the NFC enabled version made her happier. She's almost as big a nerd as I am. (I'm not allowed to touch it, she wants to do everything on her own)
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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?

I have the infuse plus an atrix, while the screen on the infuse is so sexy,, the atrix for me has the total package,, the sgs2 for me is not that much of a upgrade from my atrix, even the infuse for that matter, sure it has godly specs, but in real world usage, even my old ass dinc still get the job done,,
I dont like where the smartphone market is heading.. things need to slow back down. alittle,, before you know it, the atrix 3 will be out 3 months after the atrix 2 at the end of the year, lol

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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?
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It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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TheBassman369 said:
It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.

The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.
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exactly why i love the screen on my infuse.. but the atrix for everything else, lol

TheBassman369 said:
It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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Not all the same - they had different themes!

live4nyy said:
The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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I owned an Infuse and loved the screen and the colors, but I would rather have a higher resolution screen. I find the lower resolution something to complain about, although it isn't that big of a deal for some people.
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