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MAJOR internal memory issue(damagedtrev latest)

OK, so I am running Damages latest release, only with the Trev mods. (this alone might be the issue, can you help me find out?)
Every ROM I've ever run, even rooted stock, I've always sat on MINIMUM 110m free internal memory. As you can see, Im barely sitting on 80m. I remove just about EVERYTHING stock other than Sense and its main widgets (clocks, mail, bookmarks, calender, and music) along with all that useless nonsense (stocks, nfl, twitter, flickr, the whole nine yards) I've been sitting on 159m free before, and I like to keep it that way (between 110 and 159). I do what I always do when I install a new ROM, I use Root Explorer, multiselect, and delete EVERRRYTHING. I cannot figure out what is running up my free space. Linda claims I'm using 72m of my 159m free space for apps, which is NOT true, as I've only installed 8 apps outside of what came with the ROM and what I removed. I usually am using about 20-50 (when I go download happy on weekends)
This picture is of the free RAM I have (God I love estrong and the widgets) which seems to be OK-ish, generally I have over 90, 106 when things are real good (back on DCV1 100 was my MIN at all times!!)
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This is of my SD card and internal storage...yuck!!!
Here's Linda's claim of 45% used up already, with only 8 apps installed.
Heres the 8 apps ive installed
There is something horribly wrong, help?!?!

the OS takes up space and your in the /system partition.
89 mb is fine.
please stop making threads for pointless things.

Avalaunchmods said:
the OS takes up space and your in the /system partition.
89 mb is fine.
please stop making threads for pointless things.
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i know perfectly well 89 is ok for ram, but what do you mean im in the /system partition?
this not pointless avalaunch, we've always been cool, dont claim there is no reason for my point. all my posts are legitimate. i dont understand what is happening, and would appreciate help over attitude.
im noticing a major lag too, something is wrong. avalaunch, ease, explain to me what im missing. linda has always said ive had 20-50 used up for apps, at its climax, why is it so high now? why is my phone telling me i have less than 90m free internally, when i garuntee if i nandroid back to dcv1, i know all these things will be fixed.
i dont understand, im asking for help, could you please supply it, or just not respond at all?
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What ever happened to the days where someone had a question and someone had an answer. why does the first douche bag in a forum have to go in someone's post and call it pointless? since when is it pointless to ask questions? douche..

Powers16 said:
What ever happened to the days where someone had a question and someone had an answer. why does the first douche bag in a forum have to go in someone's post and call it pointless? since when is it pointless to ask questions? douche..
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ok lets.not start flaming. avalaunche os actually a cool guy, hes helped me out before. i guess hes grumpy today or something.
i feel embarassed cause this is such a noob question, but i truely dont understand. can someone help, please?

I actually have noticed the same problem, when using a2sd ive always had only used 30MB or so, but not it says im using almost 3 times as much, Maybe it has something to do with the rom and a2sd being messed up. but it stated with these sprint leaks, before with every rom it was much less internal memory being used up.. dont know what causes it.

digitalscars said:
I actually have noticed the same problem, when using a2sd ive always had only used 30MB or so, but not it says im using almost 3 times as much, Maybe it has something to do with the rom and a2sd being messed up. but it stated with these sprint leaks, before with every rom it was much less internal memory being used up.. dont know what causes it.
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im not using a2sd
is that automatic in damagedtrev? like if you flash it, no matter what its going to partition and set it up?
ive nevvver used a2sd, i have no need, i keep my phone minimal. how do i tell if im using a2sd, and htf do i stop it?

I would like to know if there is an answer to this as well. I have also always shown over 100 plus meg free after installing all my apps.

redram38 said:
I would like to know if there is an answer to this as well. I have also always shown over 100 plus meg free after installing all my apps.
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so much for being pointless.
are you running damagedtrev damage, or regaw?

mountaindont said:
i know perfectly well 89 is ok for ram, but what do you mean im in the /system partition?
this not pointless avalaunch, we've always been cool, dont claim there is no reason for my point. all my posts are legitimate. i dont understand what is happening, and would appreciate help over attitude.
im noticing a major lag too, something is wrong. avalaunch, ease, explain to me what im missing. linda has always said ive had 20-50 used up for apps, at its climax, why is it so high now? why is my phone telling me i have less than 90m free internally, when i garuntee if i nandroid back to dcv1, i know all these things will be fixed.
i dont understand, im asking for help, could you please supply it, or just not respond at all?
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My question is...the comparisons you are performing here, are they based on a 1.5 ROM (since I saw stock rom mentioned)? If so, 2.1 has larger files as part of the base system that will take up more space.
I currently have 84.02MB

This is making me wonder also. I am looking at my info and says system is using 97 with 61 free, I am using a2sd and last time similar setup i was well over 120 free. May have to check a diff rom tomorrow to see if there is maybe something with it. and although my busybox df -h shows sdcard/sd if i type a2sd in adb i get a2sd: not found. This is in fresh 2.0d btw

Since you only have 8 apps installed, the OS itself must be using up the rest of the internal memory. My guess is that the ROM's based off the newer Sprint leaks haven't been fully optimized yet to the extent that the Eris-based ROM's were. When the devs have had more time to tweak everything, you'll probably see those numbers go down. Do you need that much internal memory free? The amount of free internal memory you have is not going to affect the performance of your phone (well...maybe if it's completely full). I don't think you really need to worry about it.

tkirton said:
My question is...the comparisons you are performing here, are they based on a 1.5 ROM (since I saw stock rom mentioned)? If so, 2.1 has larger files as part of the base system that will take up more space.
I currently have 84.02MB
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no man! lol, ive been running 2.1 since damage .9x
any ideas?
tia

mountaindont said:
so much for being pointless.
are you running damagedtrev damage, or regaw?
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I have actually used all 3 including the new Fresh 2.1 rom and it is the same. I just figured the OS was larger with it being 2.1 but did not know for sure. IMO nothing is pointless if someone wants to know something, esp when you can search for this and find nothing.

dametzg said:
Since you only have 8 apps installed, the OS itself must be using up the rest of the internal memory. My guess is that the ROM's based off the newer Sprint leaks haven't been fully optimized yet to the extent that the Eris-based ROM's were. When the devs have had more time to tweak everything, you'll probably see those numbers go down. Do you need that much internal memory free? The amount of free internal memory you have is not going to affect the performance of your phone (well...maybe if it's completely full). I don't think you really need to worry about it.
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ok, i can see that. the os is new and not fully optimized and is eating my internal storage. but why is linda claiming im using 45%, when theres just noooo way?
any ideas?
tia

I am comparing roms like darchlegend and eris leaks, all 2.1, but not that im using sprint, my internal memory has been significantly lower. I know a2sd is automatic, but knowing they had problems with it before not sure if something is still messed up. a2sd would be only activated (how its supposed to work) when your sd card is partitioned, which mine is. so you would think using a2sd in my case mine should be even lower than yours.

I know to disable a2sd, make sure your sd card is not partioned with ext file system. Only have swap and fat32. I just checked my phone and have 101 mb free in the system. Have Fresh2.0d (his newest ROM) flashed right now. Will reflash Regaw's and see what I have.

digitalscars said:
I actually have noticed the same problem, when using a2sd ive always had only used 30MB or so, but not it says im using almost 3 times as much, Maybe it has something to do with the rom and a2sd being messed up. but it stated with these sprint leaks, before with every rom it was much less internal memory being used up.. dont know what causes it.
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DamageControl 2.5 has a newer A2SD that should fix several issues, especially with A2SD not setting things up correctly. But, I can take a look at the issue for you.
Before going into ADB shell, type adb remount to mount your filesystem in read-write mode.
Now, go into ADB shell, at the prompt type:
ls -l /data
Look at the app entry. If it has "-> /system/sd/app" to the right of the entry, then the apps are going to the SD card. If not, you can type the following commands to make it work:
cp /data/app/* /system/sd/app
cp /data/app-private/* /system/sd/app-private
rm -f /data/app
rm -f /data/app-private
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
ln -s /system/sd/app-private /data/app-private
Hope that helps.

redram38 said:
I have actually used all 3 including the new Fresh 2.1 rom and it is the same. I just figured the OS was larger with it being 2.1 but did not know for sure. IMO nothing is pointless if someone wants to know something, esp when you can search for this and find nothing.
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ill be honest, given damage seems to be the most popular rom, searching his threads have become such a hassle, its become a general consensus to post a new.thread with a bug not reported in his OP/change logs. i know its cluttery, but ive asked several questions in his threads, for them to get buried seconds later, and searching only brings up the oroginal question you had posted.
avalaunch said i was in system partition. what does that mean?

I was using DamagedTrev light, and tried everything to get my Hero to sleep but it wouldnt. Using the free memory widget, and checking my phone through out the day at work i could watch the ram get depleted until the phone became unusable and i would have to pull the battery. I never figured out what was causing it, as i had fixed my PRI, and my TWS was 0%. I have since changed ROMs, sorry i couldnt be of more help.

Hd2 Android poll

Just out of curiosity how many people aren't using Android as well as windows mobile on their hd2's
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nope, its to ugly,

OrionCarl said:
nope, its to ugly,
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Lol..... even using a build with sense?
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whynot66 said:
Just out of curiosity how many people aren't using Android as well as windows mobile on their hd2's
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Hd2 with Android has absolute gawd-awful battery life... No thanks

Not anymore getting 1%ph in standby now
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whynot66 said:
Not anymore getting 1%ph in standby now
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Whaaaaa?!
Which WM Rom/Radio are you using? Which Android build?
Pretty good battery if that is the case... Looks like I'll have to try it again

ap3604 said:
Whaaaaa?!
Which WM Rom/Radio are you using? Which Android build?
Pretty good battery if that is the case... Looks like I'll have to try it again
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Chuckydroid
Bangsters latest
2.12 radio
Have to run a few tweak but it works almost ready for nand
Also ppp is almost stable I get 3.2mb down and 2mb up,
What Do you get in wm
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whynot66 said:
Lol..... even using a build with sense?
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yeah i love sense, but the android home screen just isnt as nice and clean and useable then the winmo, I like my opera tab wifi tab gps disconnect and torch all on the home page, same colour, so they all match, call me fussy, but im allowed to be till there is a CHT for it, im not gonna jump ship, TBH cant see me ever, my ROM works perfect, 3 days batt, even with heavy usage, cant really see the need to!this is my home: simple and clean
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have never used android, will never use android......
dont see what all the fuss is about...
I started reading this with the intention of flaming you for posting an android related thread outside of the android section...
turns out this is in the right place after all and I get to have a little moan about android......
thanks

OrionCarl said:
yeah i love sense, but the android home screen just isnt as nice and clean and useable then the winmo, I like my opera tab wifi tab gps disconnect and torch all on the home page, same colour, so they all match, call me fussy, but im allowed to be till there is a CHT for it, im not gonna jump ship, TBH cant see me ever, my ROM works perfect, 3 days batt, even with heavy usage, cant really see the need to!this is my home: simple and clean
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Is that a data toggle that can disable and enable data or does it just diable data only?

Android rocks!!1

have not tried android yet, though would like to give it a go. the only thing is that i am a bit concerned with flashing a different radio and messing my 3g connection which i enjoy in the house i have recently moved in and then there are issues with the battery drain and over heating and also if i wanna use android daily i guess it is better to use a more optimised rom than my stock one which i cant be bother to flash

Bought the HD2 for WinMo and the best hardware on the market the month it came out. was very happy with it. Flashed a ton of roms. Decided to give android a try. I haven't used WinMo since July now. I still feel I have some of the best hardware on the market and feel its even better with android. Sorry WinMo, I have been turned to the dark side...
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Tried android, worked well, really liked flash support in the browser, but that was the only positive thing I found.
Sense wasn't as functional on android, the rest of the OS looked like android copied IOS. All the apps looked like iphone apps.
Really looking forward to wp7. Now that twitter has been integrated along with netflix and youtube, not much that it doesn't do right out of the box.

jelliottz said:
Bought the HD2 for WinMo and the best hardware on the market the month it came out. was very happy with it. Flashed a ton of roms. Decided to give android a try. I haven't used WinMo since July now. I still feel I have some of the best hardware on the market and feel its even better with android. Sorry WinMo, I have been turned to the dark side...
+1 couldn't go back
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Been using Android on my HD2 for a couple of weeks. Only thing that I do not like is the battery drain. Other than that, it makes WM look sick. I have had many WM phones over the years. I have an iPhone, too.
The major things I like about Android:
1. Apps are so available and easy to DnI and YES, they do look like iPhone. Main reason why I liked the iPHone and Android apps compare to WM apps. Much cheaper in cost and more availability. Yes, I do know that WM has a lot of apps as I do a lot of searching, reading, forums other than this one. Display is much better in format using non-WM apps.
2. Speed - Android seems much faster than WM even when I compare the same apps using WM and/or Android.
3. Customization - I use HD2 Sense, SPB Mobile Shell and now with Android, I can get the same customization using the apps available on Android store.
Oh, just thought about another thing I don't like about Android. No Restart without Power Off and Power On going through WM or dual booter.
Got the best of both worlds. If you haven't tried it, don't knock it. JMHO!

ap3604 said:
Is that a data toggle that can disable and enable data or does it just diable data only?
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just disconnect, as the GPS connects when ever i go on the net...no data enabler/disabler seems to work when u wanna have the weather update ect.

orioncarl said:
my rom works perfect, 3 days batt, even with heavy usage, cant really see the need to!this is my home: Simple and clean:d
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how do you do that??

dan138zig said:
how do you do that??
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I tried everything and still a lot of battery drain. I use TaskPanel X and Kill All Background Tasks constantly and within minutes I have apps restarted such as:
Voice Search, Startup Auditor, Taskiller, News and Weather, FolderOrganizer, Clock, etc. The list of open apps changes minute by minute. I have even put these apps in the Killer List and Disabled these using both options: Startup Disable and Keep Disabled in Startup Auditor. I really don't understand why they kick off when they are flagged in Startup Auditor.
Any suggestions?

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I tried everything and still a lot of battery drain. I use TaskPanel X and Kill All Background Tasks constantly and within minutes I have apps restarted such as:
Voice Search, Startup Auditor, Taskiller, News and Weather, FolderOrganizer, Clock, etc. The list of open apps changes minute by minute. I have even put these apps in the Killer List and Disabled these using both options: Startup Disable and Keep Disabled in Startup Auditor. I really don't understand why they kick off when they are flagged in Startup Auditor.
Any suggestions?
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Not an Computer Engineer or anything but while I had the Nexus One there was always a HUGE debate on whether or not to use a task killer.
One guy whose opinion I respect alot said that the way Android works, it actually takes MORE battery to kill tasks since the tasks will use more juice starting back up again and again (getting killed each time) instead of just letting them running in the background without using any power...
I never used the Task Killers personally unless the app I was in locked up but what do I know?

Using Note without rooting or custom ROMs

Would you see any problem with me using the international version of the Note without rooting or using custom ROMs? Are there any annoyances you're experiencing with the stock ROM? Will Samsung actually update this device for atleast a year? My U.S. Samsung devices never got updates, but that might've been mostly the carrier's fault

Unrooted note?
I haven't rooted my note yet, and I don't have any complaints. To be honest, I really don't see a reason to root it, at least not until a functional ICS ROM is available for it. As for the updates, the main update we're looking for is ICS which I'm hearing may not be available until April though.

Ive not rooted my international Note either.
Love it!
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I've rooted mine only... but to be honest I only did it out of habit.
I don't think I've actually used root for anything and will only use it to install ICS if CM9 hits before the samsung release.

I'm only rooted. Nothing more.
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I'm just rooted and CWM'd... Until either a semi-stable full featured CM7 port comes out, or even better, a CM9 port, I can tough it out waiting. One thing is for sure though.
I WILL GET TOUCHWIZ OFF THIS DEVICE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
It's slow, it's laggy, the home button takes a CRIMINALLY long time to return to my homescreen from just about every app... it's the worst.
Samsung Galaxy NoteNexus. That'll do =)

Same here , didn't root it yet and loving it but would definitely would root it to tell the difference in two....
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I haven't rooted it yet. I see no point. I used to root for taking snapshot in previous Androids. With GS2, I rooted to install few custom fonts. The only reason if I will ever need to root Note would be to install AdFree but screen is so big I don't mind few space taken away by ad and morally if I am using free version, developer should earn something from ads.

I didn't find a reason to root it either,I usually do it to install the Armenian fonts but the GNote came already installed.
The unit I have is fast and no lags so no worries in that front either.

I have rooted neither. I would only consider when stop getting OS upgrade. I will wait for ICS till then have enough to enjoy.

Gazzz said:
It's slow, it's laggy, the home button takes a CRIMINALLY long time to return to my homescreen from just about every app... it's the worst.
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I agree, that lag sucks!
The lag is caused by voice control. Voice control is activated by pressing the home button twice, so when you hit it once the phone waits awhile to see if you're going to hit it again.

I rooted though I told myself not to...I'm just hooked to it!
Seriously, I like freezing the bloatware and deleting stuff that take up unncessary space and also cause my phone to slow down. With ICS, I believe one can just delete the apps without rooting, which will be great.
Based on my experience with the Galaxy S and S2, ROMs are just not worth the effort for me, except for the very lightweight ones that are deodexed and not much more.
I believe you can use the phone unrooted, unless you have itchy fingers like me.

I am Rooted, as you know second most reading thread 'How to Root' i hav wrote, n i cant stop myself unrooted. But really i can say some must things you can define 'need' are such
- To use Titanium Backup(really itz boring jobe to restore all application n setting withot it)
- If your place dont support Google Navigation
- Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this
- N atleast for me 'Root call blocker'
More thn this i dont think any must use for root.
Even myself have wrote thread how to, but i hav not pushed CF root till to my device

Incidentally if you use the superoneclick method of rooting there is an "unroot" feature built in as well.
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I just singleclick rooted, so I could backup and freeze apps. None of the custom roms interest me yet.. Haven't installed cwr either.
Freezing voice control gets rid of the home button lag, good advice!!
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I am Rooted, as you know second most reading thread 'How to Root' i hav wrote, n i cant stop myself unrooted. But really i can say some must things you can define 'need' are such
- To use Titanium Backup(really itz boring jobe to restore all application n setting withot it)
- If your place dont support Google Navigation
- Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this
- N atleast for me 'Root call blocker'
More thn this i dont think any must use for root.
Even myself have wrote thread how to, but i hav not pushed CF root till to my device
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Dr Ketan,
Can you please elaborate on the following points:
1. "If your place dont support Google Navigation"
How does rooting your phone help getting Google Navigation to work? Navigation does not work in my area, so would be good if you could share some tips.
2. "Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this)"
Are you under clocking the CPU in order to get better battery life? Can you give more details on this? Won't this make the phone more laggy?

Yumunum said:
Would you see any problem with me using the international version of the Note without rooting or using custom ROMs? Are there any annoyances you're experiencing with the stock ROM? Will Samsung actually update this device for atleast a year? My U.S. Samsung devices never got updates, but that might've been mostly the carrier's fault
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I've rooted mine, but have not loaded a custom ROM. The main reason for rooting is for running ClockSync, Titanium Backup Pro and Theft Aware (now Avast).

Rooted.
So I can use Chainfire 3D for a night mode.

Raghav1980 said:
Dr Ketan,
Can you please elaborate on the following points:
1. "If your place dont support Google Navigation"
How does rooting your phone help getting Google Navigation to work? Navigation does not work in my area, so would be good if you could share some tips.
I understand there is a method by loading a modified Google Maps / Navigation APK that removes the unsupported location message. I had a brief look at the process and seemes a little complicated and I just use NDrive.
2. "Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this)"
Are you under clocking the CPU in order to get better battery life? Can you give more details on this? Won't this make the phone more laggy?
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No. I was very skeptical at first about this, but I have run SetCPU on my Galaxy SII to test and performance was great and it seemed that battery life was also no problem. I installed SetCPU on my Note soon after I rooted it and have felt no performance decrease. SetCPU has a "ondemand" setting, this will change the speed of the CPU according to the needs of the apps running. Much like the SpeedStep technology found in laptops.
SetCPU has a nice info display and it shows the "Time in State" from this you can see what time your CPU is spending at each MHz increment. It stands to reason if 80% of the time the CPU is running at 200 MHz it's using less than running at 1400 MHz.
I've included a screen cap of the Time in State display from my note.
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Raghav1980 said:
Dr Ketan,
Can you please elaborate on the following points:
1. "If your place dont support Google Navigation"
How does rooting your phone help getting Google Navigation to work? Navigation does not work in my area, so would be good if you could share some tips.
2. "Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this)"
Are you under clocking the CPU in order to get better battery life? Can you give more details on this? Won't this make the phone more laggy?
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Yes sure i will guide, how you can activate google navigation in india
First Download this
Now you have req Root, and Root explorer app, b'coz you have to remove maps.apk app from Sys/apk directory, and replaced with above said application.
Anyway there is still one method, which doesn't require root, but you wil get double icon each fr lattitude, map, navigation etc(with minor difference)
if you need navigation in india then you can use that modified version of map. I mean new modified version which allow you to use navigation will install along with original map.
for this download this, and simply install like other application.
Now regarding Set CPU, i think somone hav already answered n explined nicely.
After installing SEtCPU, you will get control over CPU speed(directly affect battery performance)
e.g. If you add profile when screen is off, CPU set to 500 mH. then definetely your battery drain diminished < 1%/hr in idle state(screen off) compare to > 2 % with 3G n Data on idle state
There won't be lag issue b'coz you are under clocking in off screen state only.

Make Galaxy SIII BLAZZING FAST...

Hi,
You might've noticed that your s3 using nearly 90% of your phones RAM(600-700 MB of 779MB)
The Thing is there are many unwanted processes and tasks running without your knowledge.
So heres a way to make your phone free up to 200 MB of RAM
Go to SETTINGS->Developer options
->Force GPU rendering- Default is off..Just tick it.
Window animation scale and transition animation scale (default is 0.5x) Turn it off
Here comes the most impt. one
Limit background processes to no background processes
Restart your phone and look at the RAM tab on your task manager..It will be significantly less than before..Mine was up to 390 MB when freed.
Enjoy, :laugh:

No background processes? Lol
I know a way of making battery last forever.. Turn off the phone!
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andro94 said:
Hi,
You might've noticed that your s3 using nearly 90% of your phones RAM(600-700 MB of 779MB)
The Thing is there are many unwanted processes and tasks running without your knowledge.
So heres a way to make your phone free up to 200 MB of RAM
Go to SETTINGS->Developer options
->Force GPU rendering- Default is off..Just tick it.
Window animation scale and transition animation scale (default is 0.5x) Turn it off
Here comes the most impt. one
Limit background processes to no background processes
Restart your phone and look at the RAM tab on your task manager..It will be significantly less than before..Mine was up to 390 MB when freed.
Enjoy, :laugh:
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Would it not be easier just to link users to the previous post that said exactly the same weeks ago .
jje

andro94 said:
Hi,
You might've noticed that your s3 using nearly 90% of your phones RAM(600-700 MB of 779MB)
The Thing is there are many unwanted processes and tasks running without your knowledge.
So heres a way to make your phone free up to 200 MB of RAM
Go to SETTINGS->Developer options
->Force GPU rendering- Default is off..Just tick it.
Window animation scale and transition animation scale (default is 0.5x) Turn it off
Here comes the most impt. one
Limit background processes to no background processes
Restart your phone and look at the RAM tab on your task manager..It will be significantly less than before..Mine was up to 390 MB when freed.
Enjoy, :laugh:
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You have no idea of what u are doing, have you?
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Hi,
LOL with the no background processes... cool you have more free ram and... what about the multitasking???
In the maintime tick "don't keep activities" and you will have the exact opposite of the point of Android is made:multitasking!
All the apps and processus are killed when you quit an app and when you re-open it, it takes the same time as if it was the first time you open it... aaaahhh... but yes you have 400 mo of free ram...COUNTERPRODUCTIVE!
Useless tip in my opinion. What is the point to have 400 mo of free ram???
I have always about 200 mo of free ram and my phone is just as fast as I have 480 mo of free ram after a reboot...
Just my apps that I use oppens faster when I have "only" (for you) 200 mo of free ram...
My SIII never slowdown or have lags or anything like that with less ram. Keep Android manage his own ram!!! And if you notice some lags after 3 or 4 days of use, just a reboot or long press home/task manager/ram/clear memory (or something like that, French language) and you're good.
But if you are happy with this... I think you don't know how to use your phone with efficiency.
The thread of the day
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does gpu rendering makes more free ram anyways? Hardware layers uses more ram as far as I know.
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barisahmet said:
does gpu rendering makes more free ram anyways? Hardware layers uses more ram as far as I know.
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Gpu rendering uses more ram because of opengl requires more overhead.
It will free up cpu power, but can cause side effects on some apps (mostly older).
Newer apps use to have gpu rendering on by default.
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It's like using a task manager. Useless on Android.
Android has its own RAM management. If there isn't enough RAM, it just kill the cached or not used processes.
My S3 is extremly fast without doing anything. Even with Stock it was extremly fast and smooth.
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RAM is made to be used, not to be kept free. Low free RAM just means that apps are loaded and waiting to be used again, if more RAM is needed, Android OS just removes one of these idle apps and makes room for the new app. So actually, no free RAM is needed on an Android device.

Throw it into the sky

I think no comment is the best policy here!
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If you guys care to read the title of the thread, this is not about ram conservation, it is about speed.
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Please dont be so rude to the noOb. At least he got balls to do such thing.
I move that the thread to be closed. :beer:
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hefonthefjords said:
If you guys care to read the title of the thread, this is not about ram conservation, it is about speed.
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OK, and in which case it would still be BS.
No apps in ram means slower opening times as having apps in the cache means they open (ever so slightly) faster.
No apps in ram = SLOWER phone and worse battery life.
So ya, its all bollocks.
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viking37 said:
Hi,
LOL with the no background processes... cool you have more free ram and... what about the multitasking???
In the maintime tick "don't keep activities" and you will have the exact opposite of the point of Android is made:multitasking!
All the apps and processus are killed when you quit an app and when you re-open it, it takes the same time as if it was the first time you open it... aaaahhh... but yes you have 400 mo of free ram...COUNTERPRODUCTIVE!
Useless tip in my opinion. What is the point to have 400 mo of free ram???
I have always about 200 mo of free ram and my phone is just as fast as I have 480 mo of free ram after a reboot...
Just my apps that I use oppens faster when I have "only" (for you) 200 mo of free ram...
My SIII never slowdown or have lags or anything like that with less ram. Keep Android manage his own ram!!! And if you notice some lags after 3 or 4 days of use, just a reboot or long press home/task manager/ram/clear memory (or something like that, French language) and you're good.
But if you are happy with this... I think you don't know how to use your phone with efficiency.
The thread of the day
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+ with this kind of settings as the OP said, some people applying this will complain about launcher redraws or some weird things happens...
I've tested, for example I open XDA app and the browser for Google traduction and switching between both then I write a SMS and when I want to return in the browser to copy/paste my traduction for XDA app... WOW what happens!?!... XDA app was killed or it's the browser! Not very convenient use for a smartphone!
This thread can be well intentioned but in fact, it's really a bad thing...
After that if some people want a slower phone, a total lack of multitasking but much more free ram for nothing..., well follow the OP.
LEAVE ANDROID MANAGE HER MEMORY, at worst it can help with mods as V6 Supercharger (and yet there are pros and cons) but not with killing (by the developper options) all the processes automatically.
Re managing some priority, LMK, etc... yes why not but it's useless to kill all apps wich have been opened.
Warm_ice, yes but here it's a fact totally useless, noob ok, we have all been but come and make a post here like the ultime solution or the revolution about memory management (read the title then the OP ) sorry but it's ridiculous...
I've tested before this thread and I can confirm my phone is slower with the limit background processes to no background processes than the stock settings... and I think I'm not the only one.
And I speak only for this, not about GPU rendering and animation speed. After if this thread was only about GPU rendering ant animation speed I agree even if it's seen and reviewed since a long time...
nodstuff has well summarized the facts in shorter

Just one word (video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA .

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Thread closed. Pointless.

[Q] How much available RAM is there after boot?

I would be very grateful if you G2 owners could reboot your phones and report how much RAM you have available after a fresh start.
The reason I'm asking is that I noticed in a video that the RAM was only around 500 MB with only 5 apps open, and then I saw this screenshot: just 320 MB of available with only 2 apps open!
Is the G2 really that low on RAM??
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hduty said:
I would be very grateful if you G2 owners could reboot your phones and report how much RAM you have available after a fresh start.
The reason I'm asking is that I noticed in a video that the RAM was only around 500 MB with only 5 apps open, and then I saw this screenshot: just 320 MB of available with only 2 apps open!
Is the G2 really that low on RAM??
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have you shut off services/apps you don't need? i noticed this on a verizon model they had at the store. Had 500mb left. i then tinkered and disabled many of the bloat apps and took the phone to 1.2GB of free ram. i don't know if this relates to your phone too. but the bloat slowly kills it at first.

pilot85 said:
have you shut off services/apps you don't need? i noticed this on a verizon model they had at the store. Had 500mb left. i then tinkered and disabled many of the bloat apps and took the phone to 1.2GB of free ram. i don't know if this relates to your phone too. but the bloat slowly kills it at first.
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That's not a screenshot of my G2, it's from GSMArenas review. I don't own a G2 (yet), the low RAM figures I have seen makes me hesitant to buy one - hence my question.
But if I go ahead and get one it will be an unlocked/unbranded phone, so there will be no carrier apps on it.
Either way, what apps did you close down/disable on the model at the store?

Mines AT&T, but with most of the bloat disabled, I'm at 832. That's with stuff running and not a clean boot. Keep in mind, however, how Linux uses memory. Empty memory is wasted memory.
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RAM is meant to be used or it is useless. Android OS caches a ton of things in RAM since it doesnt cost anything or drain any significant extra battery so it looks like a lot of memory is used. If you need more RAM for your own open apps it will flush out unused cached data and apps to make room for whatever you are actually wanting to run. Having 300-400MB free RAM is pretty much perfect amount because it means a bunch of stuff is cached and ready to load fast but it also leaves enough space for a good number of your own things to be open and running before old stuff gets flushed out.

lastdeadmouse said:
...Empty memory is wasted memory.
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EniGmA1987 said:
RAM is meant to be used or it is useless.... Having 300-400MB free RAM is pretty much perfect amount because it means a bunch of stuff is cached and ready to load fast but it also leaves enough space for a good number of your own things to be open and running before old stuff gets flushed out.
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400 MB is what I have on my Xperia T after a reboot (no bloatware), as soon as you leave the browser and check 2-3 other apps and then return to the browser (20 seconds later) it has flushed the pages from memory and has to redownload the pages. In Pulse it kicks you out from the story (and even the category) you were reading when the app reloads, all as a result of the low RAM.
I also have the Asus Padfone 2 which has 1.5 GB of free RAM after boot, and it doesn't do any of that flushing, all your opened apps are in memory (because there is room for it), and the user experience compared to the Xperia T is like day and night due to that extra RAM.
So that's only partially true: used memory is good as long as it's made up of YOUR apps that are in memory, but 400 MB of free RAM for user-running apps is simply too little on Android, and I have my own experience, and couple of "Android-geek" friends who also complain the very same issue on their phones (Galaxy Nexus + S3), to back it up.
Since I only buy unbranded phones I'm curious what kind of bloatware you have disabled on your carrier-branded phones?

I'm having concerns with the ram. I usually have 750 on a fresh boot and 300 -400 average daily. My issues are when apps close randomly such as Sirius radio or tune in radio.
For example I'll be listening to one of those apps and get a call or pause it, when I go back to listen the app is closed. Or after a call on my previous phones it would resume. On the G2 it doesn't resume playing because the app is closed. That is not acceptable.
Another example is in the stock task switcher is I try to go back to an app I used say yesterday it will still be in the task switch but if I press it to go back to it will not respond to my touch. I have to actually go back and relaunch the app from the menu. Anyone else having these issues?
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EniGmA1987 said:
RAM is meant to be used or it is useless. Android OS caches a ton of things in RAM since it doesnt cost anything or drain any significant extra battery so it looks like a lot of memory is used. If you need more RAM for your own open apps it will flush out unused cached data and apps to make room for whatever you are actually wanting to run. Having 300-400MB free RAM is pretty much perfect amount because it means a bunch of stuff is cached and ready to load fast but it also leaves enough space for a good number of your own things to be open and running before old stuff gets flushed out.
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Yeah, I don't get people. They think free ram is magically going to make the phone faster. RAM is meant to be used. If your phone is not using ram, then it's not going as fast as it could. I usually have around 400-600MB free. I have frozen all apps that I think are bloat or I don't use.

Using cleanrom 1.0 I have over 600MB free. With open apps. No complaints.
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To less off fee ram and android will start shut down backgroundapps to free up some. So little free ram is good on any linux. You surf the net on your browser and want to have any backgroundapps alive and kicking? You need ram So kill all bloatware and services you don't need, works in S4 and should work on the clone
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verks said:
I'm having concerns with the ram. I usually have 750 on a fresh boot and 300 -400 average daily. My issues are when apps close randomly such as Sirius radio or tune in radio.
For example I'll be listening to one of those apps and get a call or pause it, when I go back to listen the app is closed. Or after a call on my previous phones it would resume. On the G2 it doesn't resume playing because the app is closed. That is not acceptable.
Another example is in the stock task switcher is I try to go back to an app I used say yesterday it will still be in the task switch but if I press it to go back to it will not respond to my touch. I have to actually go back and relaunch the app from the menu. Anyone else having these issues?
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Your Sirius app closing when you switch to another app is a typical behavior when you are low on ram, so the system immediately closes down an app when it goes to the background in order to free up memory. It's very frustrating, and it was the only reason I stopped using my Xperia T. Never had that problem with my Padfone 2 though, precisely because of all that free ram available at any point.
The task switcher issue you're describing is a bug though, I have never heard of it before but the OS should not behave like that.
Gasaraki- said:
Yeah, I don't get people. They think free ram is magically going to make the phone faster. RAM is meant to be used. If your phone is not using ram, then it's not going as fast as it could. I usually have around 400-600MB free. I have frozen all apps that I think are bloat or I don't use.
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And I don't get people who reply to threads they haven't read (or don't understand). It's not about speed.

dondavis007 said:
To less off fee ram and android will start shut down backgroundapps to free up some. So little free ram is good on any linux. You surf the net on your browser and want to have any backgroundapps alive and kicking? You need ram So kill all bloatware and services you don't need, works in S4 and should work on the clone
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^This
All that "free memory is wasted memory"-talk is nonsense in this context, but people have read that phrase someplace and are now throwing it around whenever they hear the word "RAM", regardless of context.

hduty said:
I also have the Asus Padfone 2 which has 1.5 GB of free RAM after boot
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Proof or GO of this thread. Nonsense and BS. Padfone 2 can haz 1.5 AVAILABLE memomy from boot, but it's not FREE memory. And that't ppl such as you that constantly spreading BS all around making other ppl believe that something's wrong with G2

hduty said:
^This
All that "free memory is wasted memory"-talk is nonsense in this context, but people have read that phrase someplace and are now throwing it around whenever they hear the word "RAM", regardless of context.
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Exactly! I too own an HTC One X+ and the biggest and only real complain is the crappy ram management. My device does only have 1gb of ram though. Say i'm using Pandora, i receive a call, end call, phone goes back to Pandora but opens it from scratch, that to me is crappy app/ram whatever you want to call it management. I just figured it was due to my device only having 1gb of ram but does Pandora and stock Dialer app really use that much ram? No, not even close which again concludes me to think crappy Android OS 4.1 ram management.
Sad to see this G2 device "top of the line hardware" with 2gb or ram does the same exact thing. Only thing these two devices have in common, using Android OS. Mine is 4.1 and this device 4.2 but obviously no difference as users saying they get the same issue here.
I'm also using a custom rom with as many tweaks possible "to prevent this"
from happening.
I remember my old HTC Diamond doing this too and that device only came with i believe 256mb of ram, sad that to today there is still no resolution to this issue.
Worst part is if you're playing a graphics intense game like dead trigger, get a phone call, even if you ignore it and device goes back to dead trigger, the game now restarts from scratch and all progress never saved as if you weren't even playing the game. Total waste!

My att G2 has about 650 with alll loatwear installed,
after clean tool i get around 800.
When more dev. happens its going to be possible to have 1.2+ with optimization , LG has alot crap running.

People should actually go read how Android manages RAM before spewing nonsense. Stop caring about free ram. Android will manage the amount of RAM it uses. I had the GNex and when using slacker with maps and glympse I would get the low memory message sometimes but at no time did those apps close or crash. With the G2's 2GB of RAM, it's should be able to run all your apps just fine.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html#ProcessLifecycle
"Process Lifecycle
The Android system attempts to keep application process around for as long as possible, but eventually will need to remove old processes when memory runs low. As described in Activity Lifecycle, the decision about which process to remove is intimately tied to the state of the user's interaction with it. In general, there are four states a process can be in based on the activities running in it, listed here in order of importance. The system will kill less important processes (the last ones) before it resorts to killing more important processes (the first ones).
The foreground activity (the activity at the top of the screen that the user is currently interacting with) is considered the most important. Its process will only be killed as a last resort, if it uses more memory than is available on the device. Generally at this point the device has reached a memory paging state, so this is required in order to keep the user interface responsive.
A visible activity (an activity that is visible to the user but not in the foreground, such as one sitting behind a foreground dialog) is considered extremely important and will not be killed unless that is required to keep the foreground activity running.
A background activity (an activity that is not visible to the user and has been paused) is no longer critical, so the system may safely kill its process to reclaim memory for other foreground or visible processes. If its process needs to be killed, when the user navigates back to the activity (making it visible on the screen again), its onCreate(Bundle) method will be called with the savedInstanceState it had previously supplied in onSaveInstanceState(Bundle) so that it can restart itself in the same state as the user last left it.
An empty process is one hosting no activities or other application components (such as Service or BroadcastReceiver classes). These are killed very quickly by the system as memory becomes low. For this reason, any background operation you do outside of an activity must be executed in the context of an activity BroadcastReceiver or Service to ensure that the system knows it needs to keep your process around.
Sometimes an Activity may need to do a long-running operation that exists independently of the activity lifecycle itself. An example may be a camera application that allows you to upload a picture to a web site. The upload may take a long time, and the application should allow the user to leave the application will it is executing. To accomplish this, your Activity should start a Service in which the upload takes place. This allows the system to properly prioritize your process (considering it to be more important than other non-visible applications) for the duration of the upload, independent of whether the original activity is paused, stopped, or finished."

BTW, this is what I get on fresh boot, and I haven't even frozen or uninstalled all of the bloatware apps in the ROM.
On another note, you should stop acting like a **** OP. If you ask a question on a forum expect answers from all sorts of people. If you dont like some of those answers dont ask in the first place.

Billy Madison said:
Proof or GO of this thread. Nonsense and BS. Padfone 2 can haz 1.5 AVAILABLE memomy from boot, but it's not FREE memory. And that't ppl such as you that constantly spreading BS all around making other ppl believe that something's wrong with G2
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So who's spreading the BS?
Now GO of this thread.

Gasaraki- said:
People should actually go read how Android manages RAM before spewing nonsense. Stop caring about free ram. Android will manage the amount of RAM it uses. I had the GNex and when using slacker with maps and glympse I would get the low memory message sometimes but at no time did those apps close or crash. With the G2's 2GB of RAM, it's should be able to run all your apps just fine.
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The only nonsense around here is the assertion that the amount of free ram on a phone is of no concern. Android's memory management can't perform miracles, nor circumvent basic computer science. If this was all about memory management we wouldn't be seeing phones with 2GB, and even 3GB of ram instead of 1GB, would we?
An app can only be loaded into and run from free memory, and if there is not enough of it the OS will try to make more available, i.e close down/cache/freeze/tombstone/swap some other running process that's currently alive (e.g. some other app that's currently running). If that closed process happens to be an app the user was running, and that the user expects to be alive when he returns to it, then you can encounter the scenarios described by some people in this thread - including myself, with apps being shut down unexpectedly in the background (I'm simplifying a little but for this discussion it's close enough...). More free ram means the OS is much less likely to close down apps opened by the user, simply because there is no reason to close them (and *here* is where the expression "unused memory is wasted memory" becomes relevant).
The exact implementation of *how* and *when* Android closes/freezes apps is what the memory management is all about, and what the text you posted explains. The talk about Android's memory management originally came from all the task managers people were using on their Android phones up until 2-3 years ago, which started to interfere with how the OS was supposed to work. But that is a completely separate discussion, irrelevant to what we are talking about here.
I honestly can't explain it any simpler than that. In other words, free (as in "unused") memory is fundamental in *any* OS for a good user experience, because your apps are going to run in that free memory, and the more of it you have the more apps you can run simultaneously without the OS closing them down in the background.
EDIT:
Just found this while I was searching for another story:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/08/30/htc-one-mini-review-the-awkward-ram-deprived-middle-child/
Note the title, and the "Not so good"-summary:
RAM. There isn't enough. 1GB does not cut it, HTC, and it was a tragic misstep to only give the One mini a single gig. Task switching and opening / closing apps becomes maddeningly slow the more you use the phone. It ruins the experience for me when this is happening many, many times a day.
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So how come it's an issue on the Mini if the concern for free ram is "nonsense" and it's all about Android's memory management??
The issues described in the Mini-review is exactly what I faced with my Xperia T, and the reason why I asked the question here in the first place.
So I will repeat it for the last time: the amount of free ram you have on your phone is fundamental and - contrary to what some of you believe and have repeated here over again - anything but "nonsense", and has nothing to do with "unused memory is wasted memory" and all that talk about Android's memory management.

EniGmA1987 said:
BTW, this is what I get on fresh boot, and I haven't even frozen or uninstalled all of the bloatware apps in the ROM.
On another note, you should stop acting like a **** OP. If you ask a question on a forum expect answers from all sorts of people. If you dont like some of those answers dont ask in the first place.
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No more **** than someone who replies with "yeah, I don't get people", acting like a smarta**, while in reality completely missing the point of the question.
Either way, thanks for posting your numbers.