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Sorry that this post won't be very thorough, I made a decently structured post but then my browser crashed and I lost it :|
Lol so my main point is that a lot of people have a g1, and I think the best rom/firmware for it was RC.29.
1.5 really slowed the phone down and made the boot time very long.
And 1.6....eh.[developer wise though, YES!]
I would really like to see a developer make a custom rom for the g1 that is very basic I don't need a rotating screen that 1.5 brought, and at most for an on screen keyboard I'd only like to see the t9 keypad and even that I don't care much for, my g1's hardware QWERY is a beautiful thing.
But yea a very basic rom with very minimal options/features so the g1 runs quick, clean, and mean developed by someone who knows how to make the g1 FAST!
I hope you can get the just of this, I understand someone is going to say this unless I announce it, why don't I stay at rc.29 if I like it so much? Because I like my apps working more.
So thank you for reading this, and hopefully this post gains a lot of ground and want so a developer could make this happen
Besides I would think that stripping features from a g1 wouldn't be too hard
[Lastly that was in my other post, why do we still need a video recorder app in the drawer when its so easy to switch to from the camera? ]

No one else is with me on this? Lol sorry I guess if you feel differently.
It's just that I know in an emergency if I needed to copy down a license plate number or make a call I know my g1 would lag so bad and not open up core apps like messaging or the dialer on time.

Icebergxx said:
No one else is with me on this? Lol sorry I guess if you feel differently.
It's just that I know in an emergency if I needed to copy down a license plate number or make a call I know my g1 would lag so bad and not open up core apps like messaging or the dialer on time.
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Eh I did notice that RC29 did run alot smoother because I had to unroot and return my phone. But I think it's a step backwards. Most people probably have forgotten what it was like and have moved on. Sorry bro.
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no offense... but i ran rc29 for about well about week ago it was not any smother infact it was slower and sucked my battery. i dont use screen ration you can disable it in spare parts and always use the hard keyboard and never have any widgets...although im thinking of messing with some (getting bored) but yeah dude run cm stables and over clock and bit ( like 348 to 568) and ur g1 will run smooth as butter. dont mess with swap and ect because i think it more trouble than its worth on cupcake (cough*)

jmon777 said:
no offense... but i ran rc29 for about well about week ago it was not any smother infact it was slower and sucked my battery. i dont use screen ration you can disable it in spare parts and always use the hard keyboard and never have any widgets...although im thinking of messing with some (getting bored) but yeah dude run cm stables and over clock and bit ( like 348 to 568) and ur g1 will run smooth as butter. dont mess with swap and ect because i think it more trouble than its worth on cupcake (cough*)
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Yea I am on the Cyan train, it seems that every other experimental build he puts out messes with my most needed app so I'm flashing all around. And it's ok no offense taken but I genuinely thing a stock phone at rc29 is super fast, I have had this experience and so has some of my other Android buddies on other forums.

Icebergxx said:
Yea I am on the Cyan train, it seems that every other experimental build he puts out messes with my most needed app so I'm flashing all around. And it's ok no offense taken but I genuinely thing a stock phone at rc29 is super fast, I have had this experience and so has some of my other Android buddies on other forums.
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i was thinking about this you would like use a ota rc29 right but have roted goodness right? things like apps to sd and and also having a lot of apps on phone can slow it down. and idk when i was using rc 29 becase i wanted to see if there really was any improvement and i was having to send the phone becase the mic went out. i had alot of forecloses in the stock messaging app i cant think of thing that would be running in the back ground on cup (that you cant disable or not use) that would slow it down. but you are right the original over clocked jf 1.5 was really slow at least when i tested it with neocore got repeatably worse frame rates. but with cm 1.5 builds with over clock to the same speed i got faster up frame rates and ran rc 29 for the heck of it and got the same as did on jf 1.5.

jmon777 said:
i was thinking about this you would like use a ota rc29 right but have roted goodness right? things like apps to sd and and also having a lot of apps on phone can slow it down. and idk when i was using rc 29 becase i wanted to see if there really was any improvement and i was having to send the phone becase the mic went out. i had alot of forecloses in the stock messaging app i cant think of thing that would be running in the back ground on cup (that you cant disable or not use) that would slow it down. but you are right the original over clocked jf 1.5 was really slow at least when i tested it with neocore got repeatably worse frame rates. but with cm 1.5 builds with over clock to the same speed i got faster up frame rates and ran rc 29 for the heck of it and got the same as did on jf 1.5.
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As a friendly gesture, tomorrow or the next I am going to load up the dreaming.nbh file in Bootloader and play around with the stock apps and I will get back to you with friendly results.
And I am going to try out Handcent before 1.5
And Twidroid.
My main frustration is just that if someone rear ends me and try's to run via driving I'd love to be able to snap a photo ASAP or break out the messaging app and write down the plate number, my phone lags so much [in my mind at least] I feel I'd rather have a very dimmed down Rom that can support apps on the 1.5/6 firmware.
Well see though :]
I know a lot of mods can fix my problems and some slow them down, but it leans more so on the class of the sd card really.

Icebergxx said:
As a friendly gesture, tomorrow or the next I am going to load up the dreaming.nbh file in Bootloader and play around with the stock apps and I will get back to you with friendly results.
And I am going to try out Handcent before 1.5
And Twidroid.
My main frustration is just that if someone rear ends me and try's to run via driving I'd love to be able to snap a photo ASAP or break out the messaging app and write down the plate number, my phone lags so much [in my mind at least] I feel I'd rather have a very dimmed down Rom that can support apps on the 1.5/6 firmware.
Well see though :]
I know a lot of mods can fix my problems and some slow them down, but it leans more so on the class of the sd card really.
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i hope to see what your results are. im really going to start looking into raw performance. when ever i can get some free time.

I'm back on rc.29 and I really like it, the only draw back to this is that apps I could pull up on 1.5 won't pull up now.
Like I can't pull up twidorids legacy edition thats >1.5
Or handcent
or chomp.
And it's kind of strange :/
I guess I should of prepared better and downloaded them before hand so they'd be in my history. [and no not even clicking view more apps from twidorid pulls up the legacy]
But the phonebook replacement app is there and it works very well.
Just over all a clean UI I love it.
The notifiation bar is solid, and personally it feels faster than an overclockecd cyan build to me.
Swiping between screens, pulling down notifications, the app drawer, opening and closing the screen.
And overall it's just so benificial.
When I'm in the market and I slide my phone open to type then go ahead and close it and search or search while open then close it it doesn't do that stupid **** that 1.5 does where it sets you back one action.
For example lets say I put in handsent.
That's wrong, nothing should pull up.
So ok go back, open the keyboard type in handcent and handcent pulls up, or cool.
Close the phone and it goes back to my results for handsent.
HOW LAME!
I haven't gotten the browser to auto refresh yet due to the lack of internal memory and cache issues, mind you I only have stock apps, but I've navigated between the market and messaging/texts which is already more then impressive compared to lock 2.0 almost clearing the cache and refreshing anything when used.
I love r.c. 29 and so should you, that's just the most bottom, factual, content buyer/consumer happiness attitude there is about the g1.
It's time a dev makes a rc.29 rom that can run 1.5/1.6 apps without adding fancy animation, onscreen keyboards and all that junk.
I might be interested in updating to rc.33 but I have never had luck finding that .zip file so if anyone wants to help out post it here please.
Going to see how well my battery does, it normally never last me more then 6 hours, usually craps at at 4 hours :/
But we shall see!

I tried to upgrade to stock rc.33 but the .zip was too small and failed to instal properly, so I used another .zip and apparently it was a JF rom for 1.5
It loaded fine, installed the radio, then did a few quirky things.
Kinda disappointing that I couldn't get to rc.33 but that's common for me lol.

Icebergxx said:
I tried to upgrade to stock rc.33 but the .zip was too small and failed to instal properly, so I used another .zip and apparently it was a JF rom for 1.5
It loaded fine, installed the radio, then did a few quirky things.
Kinda disappointing that I couldn't get to rc.33 but that's common for me lol.
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just a grab a modded rc-33 from koush's guide to rooting. its not stock, but eh

Possible WM 6.5.x port?

I would love to see WM ported to this device, it would be the next best thing to the HD2 if someone could.

Not really, this device is better than the hd2 because the hd2 is running windows. Android blows winmo out of the water imo, and I was a hardcore winmo fanboy until recently.

Zabii said:
Not really, this device is better than the hd2 because the hd2 is running windows. Android blows winmo out of the water imo, and I was a hardcore winmo fanboy until recently.
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yea i swore by winmo until i got this, because essentially winmo had the same basics. multi-tasking, sandboxed apps, open development. its just that the engine for winmo was 8 years old, and it was not slick anymore.
as far as 720p video goes, who shoots 720p video with their phone and then broadcasts it to the world as HD, seriously who does that. i saw the video quality and its very decent.
video calling- yeah they could have done that.. but no, im not willing to sacrifice open development for video calling. if you absolutely must have it, get the sprint evo. thats like a million times better than i****.

This is so funny, 99% of people are switching to android running away from MS like the house is on fire, but someone actually wants MS ported to an andriod device. I guess the grass is always greener

wpbear said:
This is so funny, 99% of people are switching to android running away from MS like the house is on fire, but someone actually wants MS ported to an andriod device. I guess the grass is always greener
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Very true... I switched from the TP2 to the Inc and really expected not to like the Android. Within a half hour, I was hooked and wondered why Windows Mobile is at least 10 years behind in technology.... This is my opinion of course but no matter how good WM7 is, I simply can not imagine going back.

Yep I just left the TP2 and was only worried about the lack of hard keybd but 3 days later, who cares about keyboard....DI works when WM would freeze or crash.

I still have a lot of apps that aren't available for android yet. Would be nice to have the added features like the hardware compass and more ram and the added speed.
I'm not saying that android is a bad platform, which it isn't and I know its advancement is moving along at full steam.
I just have a lot of stuff that I use for WM and isn't available for anything else yet except some of it is available for Crapple's IPhone and would like to keep it for now.
GPS Meter, GCzII, VidaOne Personal Diet and Fitness, Identadrug, Davis Drug Guide, Hamachi2, WMWifiRouter, WifiMonster, GPSWeatherRadar, Bing, and TrackMe.
Would be nice to see an WM Energy ROM for this thing.
Also, is there anything available yet that will auto install software and customize your device with your user information and settings yet for android like XDA_UC does?

like XDA_UC? No, not that I know of as of yet but I'm new to Android(just got rid of my TP2 recently). However, if you set up a gmail account now on your TP2 and know how to setup ActiveSync(instructions are on Gmail's website) all of your calendar & contacts auto-sync to the Incredible when you set it up. All of your apps stay with your gmail account on the marketplace so anything like XDA_UC on Android is relatively useless other than automatically setting up user settings. However, if Android is set-up like a Linux computer, you can simply update the OS version without losing your settings anyways... Trust me, I was in your shoes... It's easy to keep saying Windows is nice but aren't you sick of your phone freezing all the time?

Zabii said:
Not really, this device is better than the hd2 because the hd2 is running windows. Android blows winmo out of the water imo, and I was a hardcore winmo fanboy until recently.
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so was I for about 5-6 years until I got this thing then I was like windows who?
wpbear said:
This is so funny, 99% of people are switching to android running away from MS like the house is on fire, but someone actually wants MS ported to an andriod device. I guess the grass is always greener
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if they got WP7 ported to it then I would def try it for S&Gs, and because I could, I love not having an icrapple.

anothen said:
like XDA_UC? No, not that I know of as of yet but I'm new to Android(just got rid of my TP2 recently). However, if you set up a gmail account now on your TP2 and know how to setup ActiveSync(instructions are on Gmail's website) all of your calendar & contacts auto-sync to the Incredible when you set it up. All of your apps stay with your gmail account on the marketplace so anything like XDA_UC on Android is relatively useless other than automatically setting up user settings. However, if Android is set-up like a Linux computer, you can simply update the OS version without losing your settings anyways... Trust me, I was in your shoes... It's easy to keep saying Windows is nice but aren't you sick of your phone freezing all the time?
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I haven't been having any problems with my phone freezing up since I unlocked my phone and got away from that pitiful stock rom and upgraded to a 6.5.3 rom, except when it gets really hot from being on in direct sunlight in my truck or something.
I'm not saying that android is bad, just saying it doesn't do what I want it to do at the moment.

lol. I wiped WinMo from my HTC Vogue in favor of Android cause even 6.5.3 is junk. Can't believe someone wants to regress on purpose. Microsoft's answer to finger friendly was to just make certain buttons bigger and make the X really big and ugly.
No way any dev is wasting their going backwards. This wouldn't be like a dev running Windows 3.1 on a Nokia or Apple device to show of their skills. It'd be like swapping a Mustang's engine with an Escort's.
Sorry if I sound rude...I don't mean to. It just sounds crazy to me.
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I agree with the above post. I owned every WM phone under the sun until the G1 came out. Since then I haven't looked back. I had the G1, mt3g, then switched to verizon for the Eris and now the Incredible. They all outperform any windows device I ever owned. I can't think of one thing on windows that I miss really. Use the incredible for about a week and you'll be hooked. There are plenty of apps in the market I'm sure you can find apps to do what you need.
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I know all of the versions of WM have a list of problems that have plagued users since long before I ever used my first WM device "HTC Apache" and I think its besides the point of this thread.
Why has android been ported to other devices "such as the before mentioned HTC Vogue" and all of the other devices that it has showed up on?
One word....... Choice.
People want the ability to choose what they do with their devices, run what they want to run on it and do what they want with it. If they didn't want that choice then everyone would have a Blackberry.
I'm not saying that WM is any better or worse than Android, Personally I use both "Via XDANDROID" on my Touch Pro 2 and I like android, but I still use WM because I have a lot of apps that I rely on that aren't available on android, so I want to have the choice to run WM or Android on it and I think there may be a few others that haven't switched away from WM completely yet because it has something that they use.

you have not experienced Android to it's potential if you are basing your opinion on running 'XDANDROID's' current work in progress... That was running Android off of an SD card and was STILL faster than WM. However, alot of things didn't work properly so your view is skewed. You mentioned people wanted 'variety' so they through Android on their phones.... Not exactly. Android is simply faster and manages memory better hence why people try to port it to WM to speed up their phones. If your only reason for not wanting to switch is because of a few apps, I'm sure you can find the apps on Android. The fact that you are really trying to make the point that you want to stick with WM bc of a few apps boggles my mind... Have you even looked in Android marketplace???

anothen said:
If your only reason for not wanting to switch is because of a few apps, I'm sure you can find the apps on Android. The fact that you are really trying to make the point that you want to stick with WM bc of a few apps boggles my mind... Have you even looked in Android marketplace???
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I agree....If you search a little bit you'll find apps that will replace the ones you're missing from WM. I thought the same thing when I switched but I've found everything I needed and more.

Identadrug
I purchased this with a yearly subscription and I use it almost daily for work.
http://www.identadrug.com/%28S%28p21lfx45orka2x55gbhbvtad%29%29/pda.aspx?s=ID&cs=
Nothing mentioned about android...
Looked at Davis Drug Guide, and it now has Android.
GCzII Geocaching app, nothing available in android marketplace even comes close to comparing to it at the moment.
http://www.vidaone.com/ Diet and fitness software that i bought and use daily has no current support for Android.
Hamachi 2 Client I use it daily for accessing our reports system at work and my network at home.
WMWifiRouter No current android support "however Chainfire has mentioned that they are developing a version for android" and PDANet just doesn't compare doesn't support wifi and is much slower when using bluetooth and doesn't have the range as wifi. "My g/f and I often take our laptops and I leave my phone plugged up charging while in the cradle in my truck and leave wifirouter running and we both can surf with reasonable speed at the same time on each of our laptops.
TrackMe I see a couple of TrackMe apps on Android, but are any of them based off of this one that have a web gui and allow me to use my existing self-hosted server? Using my existing server setup isn't a requirement but it would help, but hosting my own server and having offline storage of data to sync later is a requirement. (more information requested on this one)
GPSWeatherRadar Currently WM only, and I haven't found anything that is like this on android.
Bing: Seems that there is a version out there for android now, I use it mostly for business listings and movie times etc...
I rarely use it for navigation.
I have listed above the programs that I currently use the most and either can't or don't want to do without.
When an android version comes out of this software or something else that can replace it with the same features "then I will seriously consider switching.
I just really want a better device to run what I have on "since we are locked in with the limited selection of devices that our carriers offer us", at least until more companies adapt their software for android.

Maverick_TN said:
GCzII Geocaching app, nothing available in android marketplace even comes close to comparing to it at the moment.
WMWifiRouter No current android support "however Chainfire has mentioned that they are developing a version for android" and PDANet just doesn't compare doesn't support wifi and is much slower when using bluetooth and doesn't have the range as wifi. "My g/f and I often take our laptops and I leave my phone plugged up charging while in the cradle in my truck and leave wifirouter running and we both can surf with reasonable speed at the same time on each of our laptops.
GPSWeatherRadar Currently WM only, and I haven't found anything that is like this on android.
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-GeoBeagle has been out for awhile now and is open source
-Wireless Tether works pretty good but requires root
-Weather Channel or Weatherbug Elite not exactly the same but functions are there

Not to be rude, but sounds like you should have just purchased an HTC Imagio.
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Very similar profile to our Inc's. Keep in mind that every single app you listed has been replicated in some way or form on android. Do some research, youll be pleasently suprised at androids capabilities.

LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Not to be rude, but sounds like you should have just purchased an HTC Imagio.
Very similar profile to our Inc's. Keep in mind that every single app you listed has been replicated in some way or form on android. Do some research, youll be pleasently suprised at androids capabilities.
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Imagio vs Rhodium_W......... Any real difference except for one being a slider and the other having a FM radio and a better camera? I was looking for something faster, has more ram, and a hardware compass. Since it doesn't look like VZW will get a CDMA HD2, I figured this had the most potential out of the current selection of offered devices.
I'm very content with what Android is capable of, it is afterall linux. Its the software selection that still needs a little work.
I've looked up Geobeagle. haven't tried it out yet though. Just heard that Tom from GCzII has been showing more interest in Android, perhaps he'll make a version for it.
Can you show me compariable versions of software for the other listed items?

LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Do some research, youll be pleasently suprised at androids capabilities.
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I agree with LegionTHEFecalExcretion....
Sounds like you want us to convince you that you made the right decision. I too came from WM and after a couple days of searching around I found all the apps I needed. To say that the software selection needs work is a little crazy if you ask me.

What's the point of Sense anymore?

I have used all flavors, even back when it was TouchFlo on my HTC Vogue... I don't get it. I paid for SPB Mobile Shell 3D, and it seems much more fluid. I know there are a few nifty treats like flip-over-to-silence-call, etc, but really there are only a few. I was really hoping these 3.0 ROMs would add some must-have features, but I found myself thinking... "I have Sense 3.0, what now?"
Flashing to Deck's 1.1 right now, and as soon as CM7 gets MMS working again, I'll be back on their 2.3.4 build.
What features of Sense 1.0, 2.1, or 3.0 really pull you in? I'm not trying to bash Sense, but I just wonder if I am missing some hidden gem that Mobile Shell 3D doesn't have?
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Look and feel for some.
Some people use it because they used to use it with their Windows Mobile 6.x phone and they're just used to it.

mattykinsx said:
Look and feel for some.
Some people use it because they used to use it with their Windows Mobile 6.x phone and they're just used to it.
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This is me. I like the look and feel without having to buy a third party add on.

well when I used it on WM7, and it was called touchflo, it made it easy to switch between important info real quick... like tabs... what we have now is basically just the stock launcher with a few widgets on top of it. I do like the font/text size on Sense 3.0, but it seems hard to justify the ROM being 3 times larger... especially when I just ended up putting SPB 3D right on top of it.
The zoomed-in text cursor was kinda cool... I dunno, I guess I just figured there was something really kick-ass that I was overlooking. I'll probably go back to Sense when the Evo 3D comes out, most likely out of necessity.
The things I like about Sense ROMs aren't really Sense-related... I like that full 720p recording works, I like the accuracy of GPS, and a few other things. Although I can say that the Kingdom A.1 ROM had really weak WIFI performance... I had a hard time staying connected and once I flashed to Deck's it worked great again.
What I don't get is how come some ROMs restore all my apps through the Market, and others don't? Kingdom ROM did... Most CM7 ROMs do too.

WindOws vs pc debate...no one will ever have a reason, it's preference, if it aint broke don't fix...

I actually like sense a lot. It's clean & nice looking. I have tried out SPB shell 3D but was missing my sense widgets so had to go back to sense.

Blonde vs. Brunette, full figure or skinny.....

I don't have to go look for widgets to do things they are already built into Sense. If in fact I enjoyed having nothing but icons then AOSP would be great. When on AOSP I spend all my time looking for widgets that do what Sense does out of the box. I also find that when I load AOSP ROMs up with all the widgets they aren't any faster.

Sense offers a great cohesive look for a phone for users that aren't obsessessed with having a unique customized look. The themes, backgrounds, widgets, apps all work together great and you'd be hard pressed to make your phone look ugly using all Sense stuff. LP, ADW, Beautiful/Fancy Widgets, etc. can make for some ugly screenies in the wrong hands. The amount of options offered in those apps is mind boggling for your average everyday cellphone users. Its a great selling point to have all the social synergy stuff and theming out the box without having to buy apps immediately to make your phone pretty.

ScrapMaker said:
What I don't get is how come some ROMs restore all my apps through the Market, and others don't? Kingdom ROM did... Most CM7 ROMs do too.
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I was puzzled by this for a while too. Turns out flashing a ROM and immediately flashing the gapps will cause this. If you flash a ROM, boot, then go back to recovery to flash the gapps, you won't get your apps restored unless you do it yourself. There's also a setting (Settings->Privacy->Automatic Restore) that has some bearing on this too.

ffolkes said:
I was puzzled by this for a while too. Turns out flashing a ROM and immediately flashing the gapps will cause this. If you flash a ROM, boot, then go back to recovery to flash the gapps, you won't get your apps restored unless you do it yourself. There's also a setting (Settings->Privacy->Automatic Restore) that has some bearing on this too.
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dang, I never knew the timing of the gapps flash mattered... I always did it the same on every ROM flash and sometimes it worked, and other times it didn't. I wish Google would give us the ability to manage our backed up info/settings.
I guess since I bought SPB Mobile Shell 3D that my preferences are different... they are already the same or better than Sense widgets, and much smoother than any Sense launcher, (full hw accel on Evo.) So I'd probably load this on top of any Sense installation anyways. I really think that would just be a waste. I have to look at non-launcher differences. I like facebook contact integration, but that is done with the Facebook app... I guess if you really like the status updates on your contacts application, and things like friendstream, then Sense would be preferrable. Personally I disable friendstream because I'd rather just check the action out in the main app or on the full website.
As far as the OS-level changes go, are they mostly cosmetic? I did notice the flip-to-silence kind of thing, but I wonder if 4G performance is better, or anything like that?

ffolkes said:
I was puzzled by this for a while too. Turns out flashing a ROM and immediately flashing the gapps will cause this. If you flash a ROM, boot, then go back to recovery to flash the gapps, you won't get your apps restored unless you do it yourself. There's also a setting (Settings->Privacy->Automatic Restore) that has some bearing on this too.
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My god.... THANK YOU. THIS is what keeps me from trying out new roms more often, I hate dealing with 40 applications trying to download from the market every time I switch.

ffolkes said:
I was puzzled by this for a while too. Turns out flashing a ROM and immediately flashing the gapps will cause this. If you flash a ROM, boot, then go back to recovery to flash the gapps, you won't get your apps restored unless you do it yourself. There's also a setting (Settings->Privacy->Automatic Restore) that has some bearing on this too.
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I think you can also bypass that by skipping that initial 'touch the naughty Android' screen. I've never had this happen and I always flash GApps in the same session. And I notice I always have the backup / restore option checked too.
That ol' 4 point breath of death tap.
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conqu1stador said:
That ol' 4 point breath of death tap.
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the heck is that?

conqu1stador said:
I think you can also bypass that by skipping that initial 'touch the naughty Android' screen. I've never had this happen and I always flash GApps in the same session. And I notice I always have the backup / restore option checked too.
That ol' 4 point breath of death tap.
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you forgot..
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ScrapMaker said:
the heck is that?
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That first screen with the Android, the one that says 'touch the Android to begin,' if you tap around it you can skip that initial BS and I think that is when the app restoration begins. I used to try and make sure I was always set for app restore but it never did it. If you tap the upper left, upper right, lower right, and lower left around the Android you can bypass that.
Pretty sure that's why, despite my previous and earlier attempts to have the restoration take place, it never happened. Glad, because it sounds like a pain.*
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you forgot..
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*that may not be the case, but it's the only logical reason I can think of as to why I could never get it. but I'm pretty sure. but I could also be wrong. I haven't slept ... and the drinks are flowing.**
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conqu1stador said:
That first screen with the Android, the one that says 'touch the Android to begin,' if you tap around it you can skip that initial BS and I think that is when the app restoration begins. I used to try and make sure I was always set for app restore but it never did it. If you tap the upper left, upper right, lower right, and lower left around the Android you can bypass that.
Pretty sure that's why, despite my previous and earlier attempts to have the restoration take place, it never happened. Glad, because it sounds like a pain.*
*that may not be the case, but it's the only logical reason I can think of as to why I could never get it. but I'm pretty sure. but I could also be wrong. I haven't slept ... and the drinks are flowing.**
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Honestly, why would you want to skip it? I HATE having to dig through the market again to find everything... I'd much rather them reinstall automatically...

ScrapMaker said:
Honestly, why would you want to skip it? I HATE having to dig through the market again to find everything... I'd much rather them reinstall automatically...
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Because people have complained about a bunch of old apps they don't want installing again, that or many people use titanium. I grab as I go, make sure things are getting set up and working right as I go. I grab my important ones, free and paid, and sometimes I don't grab apps up again. That way you don't end up forgetting you restored a bunch of **** you downloaded and never removed. I don't have a TON of apps though, which some seem to.
Either way.
Choices, bro.
Duh.
#Winning

Sim-X said:
I actually like sense a lot. It's clean & nice looking. I have tried out SPB shell 3D but was missing my sense widgets so had to go back to sense.
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Same here

ScrapMaker said:
I have used all flavors, even back when it was TouchFlo on my HTC Vogue... I don't get it. I paid for SPB Mobile Shell 3D, and it seems much more fluid. I know there are a few nifty treats like flip-over-to-silence-call, etc, but really there are only a few. I was really hoping these 3.0 ROMs would add some must-have features, but I found myself thinking... "I have Sense 3.0, what now?"
Flashing to Deck's 1.1 right now, and as soon as CM7 gets MMS working again, I'll be back on their 2.3.4 build.
What features of Sense 1.0, 2.1, or 3.0 really pull you in? I'm not trying to bash Sense, but I just wonder if I am missing some hidden gem that Mobile Shell 3D doesn't have?
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Some dudes like chicks, some dudes like dudes. Some dudes like to get a little rough, some dudes just wanna watch you do it. Hell, I almost feel like it isn't worth chewing through the restraints unless there is a promise of midgets and duck tape...

Is CM7 too good?

So I just got CM7 beta installed and the communications lady at my place of business comes to my desk and says "Oh, you have the Atrix? Do you want me to order you a lapdock for it?"
Sucks to be me, right?
I had her order the thing because we are doing a lot of cool stuff with citrix receiver and how awesome would it be if I could have an atrix running Windows via citrix reciever
But now -- I cant bring myself to remove CM7. I've thought about it many times.
I've been in recovery with my finger hovering over the button to flash back to stock GB
But I love CM7 too much. I don't want to go back to blur.
It would be like -- having an Atrix and the someone telling you you had to use this HTC Incredible 2 instead.
I think I have the solution. I am going to go back to the communications lady and request a 2nd Atrix -- for testing purposes only of course.

capnsouth said:
So I just got CM7 beta installed and the communications lady at my place of business comes to my desk and says "Oh, you have the Atrix? Do you want me to order you a lapdock for it?"
Sucks to be me, right?
I had her order the thing because we are doing a lot of cool stuff with citrix receiver and how awesome would it be if I could have an atrix running Windows via citrix reciever
But now -- I cant bring myself to remove CM7. I've thought about it many times.
I've been in recovery with my finger hovering over the button to flash back to stock GB
But I love CM7 too much. I don't want to go back to blur.
It's would be like -- having an Atrix and the someone telling you you had to use this HTC Incredible 2 instead.
I think I have the solution. I am going to go back to the communications lady and request a 2nd Atrix -- for testing purposes only of course.
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Yeah, that or sell the laptop dock
Webtop will most likely be working once the dev team release a RC build. But who knows how long that may be.
What company do you work at, where they just hand out laptop docks? that's awsome.
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Swiftks said:
Yeah, that or sell the laptop dock
What company do you work at, where they just hand out laptop docks? that's awsome.
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Can't sell it since it's technically a company asset.
I won't broadcast the exact company for CYA reasons, but I will say that I work in IT at one of the major American Pizza corporations.
Free pizza + Free tech = winning combo

cool story bro

sanriver12 said:
cool story bro
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How long have you been waiting to say that to someone?

Flash Aura!..............Fantastic ROM!

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How long have you been waiting to say that to someone?
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Since he saw it in another post.
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Seriously, I have the same problem. I keep going back and forth.
I like CM7, but I actually miss some of the crap that Moto put in the Atrix rom. And the webtop. Most of the time it's fairly useless, but when I need it, it's golden. And the Citrix Receiver is awesome, I have fun explaining to everyone that the phone is the laptop (just like those stupid ads).

stewartsoda said:
Citrix Receiver is awesome, I have fun explaining to everyone that the phone is the laptop (just like those stupid ads).
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+1 for citrix receiver being awesome. People are blown away when I launch photoshop in 3 seconds because its being run by a quad core xeon with 16GB Ram

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Since he saw it in another post.
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capnsouth said:
Free pizza + Free tech = winning combo
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OMFG. Do you have job openings? I can do marketing. Will work for free tech and free pizza.

I don't see what the CM7 rave is all about. I've had too many Android phones to list and I tried CM on all of them. It serves a good purpose for phones which are slow to get updated or don't have any good custom roms, but I don't see the purpose with the Atrix as I felt the same way with the Evo and Evo 3D. The loss of certain functionality isn't worth it in my opinion. I don't have a lapdock, but being able to go somewhere and plug in the HDMI and have an easy no nonsense way of playing music, videos and pictures. Motoblur is not intrusive either like Sense can be at times.
I'm just offering my opinion and not trying to start an arguement, but I truely want to know why so many people "must" use it. Am I missing something? I used it for two days until I went to watch a movie and only had HDMI mirroring with no landscape support. I must say battery life and performance was great, but it's not bad on Alien rom either though.

For informations, I really like that
Searching the web and accompanying the operation with a friend, I see that there are some outstanding issues to resolve, as the case of battery and FM radio. But, in the future, I wish to install on my Xperia X10 Mini Pro.

rquinn19 said:
I must say battery life and performance was great, but it's not bad on Alien rom either though.
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CM7 just seems snappier, Im guessing because there are fewer processes running. That being said, I ran Alien prior to CM7 and I have been running Alien ever since I originally posted this (i caved because I really wanted to try out the lapdock) and I agree, That rom is very fast compared to the stock GB, thanks to kennethpen's work.

Keep in mind its still beta
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rquinn19 said:
I don't see what the CM7 rave is all about. I've had too many Android phones to list and I tried CM on all of them. It serves a good purpose for phones which are slow to get updated or don't have any good custom roms, but I don't see the purpose with the Atrix as I felt the same way with the Evo and Evo 3D. The loss of certain functionality isn't worth it in my opinion. I don't have a lapdock, but being able to go somewhere and plug in the HDMI and have an easy no nonsense way of playing music, videos and pictures. Motoblur is not intrusive either like Sense can be at times.
I'm just offering my opinion and not trying to start an arguement, but I truely want to know why so many people "must" use it. Am I missing something? I used it for two days until I went to watch a movie and only had HDMI mirroring with no landscape support. I must say battery life and performance was great, but it's not bad on Alien rom either though.
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Completely agreed. I admit I use it for phones like the BACKFLIP and the CLIQ XT. Phones that are slow and buggy stock and need to be cleaned up or have major driver/coding issues. But the atrix? Stock 2.3.4 rooted debloated is an absolute dream: silky smooth, insanely fast, and 20 hour battery life. And lapdock STILL works.
I think it's kind of like Google Chrome or Firefox. Even though IE9 flies and does everything correctly on win 7 ultimate x64 and a quadcore with a good graphics card...people still use Chrome or Firefox. Just that whole rebellious don't let the man put you down type mentality.

againareku said:
Completely agreed. I admit I use it for phones like the BACKFLIP and the CLIQ XT. Phones that are slow and buggy stock and need to be cleaned up or have major driver/coding issues. But the atrix? Stock 2.3.4 rooted debloated is an absolute dream: silky smooth, insanely fast, and 20 hour battery life. And lapdock STILL works.
I think it's kind of like Google Chrome or Firefox. Even though IE9 flies and does everything correctly on win 7 ultimate x64 and a quadcore with a good graphics card...people still use Chrome or Firefox. Just that whole rebellious don't let the man put you down type mentality.
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That and Chrome is a bizzillion times faster than IE, and a bizzillion times lighter on system resources than IE.... kinda like CM7
A BIZZILLION!!!!
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i like cm7 because chainfire runs perfect,
in all the others gb roms if i install the app every time i revert to portrait from landscape screen becomes crazy full of artifacts...
and of course booting up in less than 40 sec with 120 app installed...incredible!

Swiftks said:
That and Chrome is a bizzillion times faster than IE, and a bizzillion times lighter on system resources than IE.... kinda like CM7
A BIZZILLION!!!!
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except IE9 is so much better when it comes to css3 and gpu aided html5. and other than that, almost the exact same resources footprint. oh, and try twitter on chrome and look at your cpu load, then do it on ie9 and compare..also..ie9 doesn't change my registry, chrome does, in many ways, and they DON'T TELL YOU IT DOES.
if it's really about speed, opera destroys chrome, firefox, and IE.
and if it's about usability, I've never seen a better browser than safari.
can't really say anything about CM7. At this point I simply don't see why I want it on my atrix. the new blur launcher is way lighter than adw.

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except IE9 is so much better when it comes to css3 and gpu aided html5. and other than that, almost the exact same resources footprint. oh, and try twitter on chrome and look at your cpu load, then do it on ie9 and compare..also..ie9 doesn't change my registry, chrome does, in many ways, and they DON'T TELL YOU IT DOES.
if it's really about speed, opera destroys chrome, firefox, and IE.
and if it's about usability, I've never seen a better browser than safari.
can't really say anything about CM7. At this point I simply don't see why I want it on my atrix. the new blur launcher is way lighter than adw.
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The beauty of Android is that you don't have to use the packaged launcher if you don't like it. That goes for any ROM that packages a non stock Android launcher.
The nice thing about CM7, besides being one of the more popular ROMs, is that there are a lot of developers for it and in most cases it runs better than the stock ROM. When the vendor stops supporting the phone, the CM devs keep going.
I've used CM across 3 different phones and in all cases it was superior to stock, even on my Atrix which is still in beta. Now I do miss the fingerprint reader and having audio out work through the car dock but these will eventually get added.

Android 7 V.S Android 6 in Real Life

Hi to every lucky body that get android 7 final.i made this topic to share your results in android 7 and compare with yours in android 6..like camera..battery..speed..tanx and hope to be usefull and active topic??????
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Well, it's a tiny bit snappier, and a tiny bit faster overall.
The battery is better; I get 3:45 to 4 hours SOT in auto brightness, full location services with wireless scanning, google now on, google cards on, hot word on from any screen... the full google experience, for short.
It's better than I had with a variety of mods and ROMs on Marshmallow.
I especially enjoy the new notification center. I can read numerous full messages and emails right from the notification slide. Quite awesome.
And I thank the gods of Google for removing the stupid enlarged tiles for Wireless and Bluetooth, the most annoying feature ever.

Battery is not bad for stock but I get the feeling with all mods and tweaks and kernels and such android M was a bit better...
But it would be unfair to compare those two as M has been worked on for a year now... N is fresh out of the box so let's wait and see how much battery can be improved.
Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
Camera... And such... Did not really compare but would expect them to be similar...

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Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
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I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.

OhioYJ said:
I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.
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No, but you can do that from Data Usage in Settings, in M as well.

I've been using it for 2 days now. The doze feature is way better than that of M. I've noticed certain performance boost in games like asphalt 8 as the game used to lag after thermal throttling was active in M.
The usage is very very smooth, feels very light. I mostly love the quick settings panel as because it looks and is well organised than the previous version. It's just an initial build and its quite stable. I would say I am impressed and good to go with 7.0.
Well this was my perspective.

I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?

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I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?
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Not entirely sure... NExus 5x has quite some struggle with charging when screen on.
Under M there was almost no charging when screen was on and you did some browsing...
Might be slightly better under N... though I havent tested it long enough to confirm... Charging basically stopped when you used your phone constantly and not just for writing a text under M...

Nope, seems same like before.
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On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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Nightshadow931 said:
Nope, seems same like before.
Edit: it actually seems better, I'm using my phone on charger for about 10mins, and ampere measures around 1100mAh.
On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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I tested it while playing a game (8 ball pool, not a resource intensive app) and the percentage went up atleast 2 to 3 % in roughly 5-10 minutes. It seems that it is improved. But we still need someone to look through the kernel's code or run a reliable test!

I have it on my 5x since it dropped was on dp5 before that. Official seems smoother don't really use the 5x since I got the s7.

I'm actually seeing what seems to be worse battery performance. I've eliminated a few apps that were troublesome, but it looks like the battery is draining faster than on "M". I'm hoping that it's simply a problem with the crappy cell signal in my office - my connection bounces between 27 different towers and it's still crappy at best.

Atleast for me, I can confirm that charging while screen on is finally fixed. Hail hydra!

As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.

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As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.
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Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.

new useful features, more usr friendly interface, for me - good change

enzo_cz said:
Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.
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How did you get Substratum working?

bhs73 said:
How did you get Substratum working?
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Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.

enzo_cz said:
Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.
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Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.

bhs73 said:
Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.
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Important, there are sorta probs about Substratum and Android N, such as make sure you wont apply it to Chrome and Documents for example. You'd get instant force close. And if there's any other app like that, you need to make sure it is off the list to get themed.