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[Q] Froyo is just days away, What are you going to do with your Apps?

So we all know the Real Deal Froyo 2.2 is coming in just a few days away.
Have any of you though of an upgrade path for the installed apps currently running on 2.1?
There's a few ways to go about this:
- Wipe everything & start a'new
- Backup Apps & Settings, then restore it to Froyo
- Backup only Apps but no Settings & re-install everything after Froyo
- Undo the lag fix, flash back to stock ROM, then upgrade to Froyo, and wipe everything in the process.
- Other methods (please provide details)
Personally I'm inclined to #2 but I read people having complications with this process, so I might end up doing it the #3 way, but.... 400+ apps it's a bit crazy to go reinstalling all that, it'll take me probably 2 days to reconfigure all those apps/games
I'm glad i have an AppsBrain account, so i just need to hit Sync and it will re-install all those apps for me, but i still need to set all the settings again... that's going to be a royal pain in the arsenal

I am going with a complete fresh everything. Full factory reset first then format mem cards then upgrade, then factory reset again and maybe even another reformat. Not taking any blinking chances this time!
Also moving from a Gmail account to a Google Apps account so that should be interesting!
Appbrain reinstall
Roll on 2.2

How does Google/Samsung expect the average user to cope with an upgrade? By re-doing everything from scratch?
Appbrain helps but it's still a bit of an annoying process and it re-downloads everything from the net which slows things down. Restoring settings is impossible without rooting and may have problems when going from 2.1-2.2 so that's way out of reach to the average user.
Android seriously needs a better way of handling updates.
Personally I'm already on the JPC Froyo firmware so hopefully the official release is easy to root. Then I can just restore everything with Titanium Backup.

yeah no kidding, they don't even let you save or backup the files via KIES, so that you can restore them later.
in all other mobile phones, BlackBerry, PalmOS, Windows Mobile, Iphone
all of them will automatically create a backup of your stuff inside the phone, before it does the upgrade, so that after the upgrade it will automatically reload all your stuff back into the phone.
In Android we are lacking that, both times i've upgraded from one ROM to another ROM, it forced a full wipe on the phone.
luckily it was from a 2.1 to 2.1 so you can easily restore a back up from Titanium Backup, or any favourite backup Apps of your choice.
but I've read a lot of postings about people having problems when they restore the settings from 2.1 to 2.2
Apparently it's okay to restore all the Apps from 2.1 to 2.2 but you can't really restore the settings as it will crash 2.2
so even being able to restore all 400+ apps, i'll still need to spend countless hours to reconfigure them all
at least that saves me the 800+ clicks to OK install OK accept permission for each of the 400+ apps in my inventory. LOL

I doubt Samsung would keep their wrd on updating galaxys did u know what they did to samsung behold 2,
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just to clarify some misconceptions posted above ....it's not android that has any problems in updating, it's samsung.
i updated my nexus over the air easily without losing any apps settings etc, no need for a format or anything drastic.
it's only because kies does not work that we have to wipe and install via pc on a samsung.

salmanslick said:
I doubt Samsung would keep their wrd on updating galaxys did u know what they did to samsung behold 2,
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tell us, we don't know
at least i don't know

tmzbeme said:
just to clarify some misconceptions posted above ....it's not android that has any problems in updating, it's samsung.
i updated my nexus over the air easily without losing any apps settings etc, no need for a format or anything drastic.
it's only because kies does not work that we have to wipe and install via pc on a samsung.
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that's comforting to know... so Samsung is not mature enough on the App+scripting+upgrade side of things
yes Kies does not provide an option to backup/restore the stuff during a firmware upgrade

is there any way to keep all my apps on JPC as i have no idea if titanium backup will work with jpc and wont that mean waiting until the official 2.2 is rooted?

My htc desire went from 2.1 to 2.2 without a hitch. All applications were kept on the device with the new features tacked on.
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gtanny said:
is there any way to keep all my apps on JPC as i have no idea if titanium backup will work with jpc and wont that mean waiting until the official 2.2 is rooted?
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Froyo is rooted already
the official one will be rooted the same way as the alpha/beta that are floating around already

AllGamer said:
tell us, we don't know
at least i don't know
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Behold II owners were promised a 2.1 update which went awry so those not willing to risk flashing a non-vendor ROM are stuck with 1.6. It was about that time that Samsung started to concentrate on the Galaxy range of handsets.
Hopefully they won't do the same thing when the SGS II is released...

Odd reading this as when I upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 JPC totally unintentionally it kept all my data and settings as well as the apps. The problem was that the data was configured to 2.1 and so I got loads of force closes so had to uninstall and reinstall all the apps so it ended up quicker doing a factory reset and starting from scratch.

On my rooted hero I went from custom 2.1 rom did a titanium backup with apps and settings flashed 2.2 downloaded titanium again restored and got everything back with settings.
We need to be allowed to store the ROMs on the phone and use recovery like on rooted phones. I much prefer that way of doing it. we should have the option in instead of risking bricking your phone if your computer crashed. Also have an updated app like with the villainroms much similar.
Looking at the app ak notes I have entries dating back November 16 last year. Wiped rom update was a few months back saving settings brought all the data back when I restored.
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I'll be going for the flashing with Odin method. Kies is a horrible program.
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Just to get things clear. Any update wipe out your data or only to 2.2?
I updated some days ago and didn't lose nothing.

Thanks for informing allgamer
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Behold II owners were promised a 2.1 update which went awry so those not willing to risk flashing a non-vendor ROM are stuck with 1.6. It was about that time that Samsung started to concentrate on the Galaxy range of handsets.
Hopefully they won't do the same thing when the SGS II is released...
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I'm just not thinking about it atm. I have 63 apps :S

As one of the option at the poll says, is it necessary to undo lagfix before flashing? Wouldn't flashing wipe off the 2GB partition?

froyos floating around dont delete your data. but its often recommended to factory reset anyway to avoid troubles. in any case better safe than sorry. titanum backup works in free mode. backup all and copy the titanium backup dir from the phones internal sdcard to the external one or to your pc. youll be glad you did if you ever run into troubles.
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[Q] 2.1 upgrade to 2.2 advance restore data

if i upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2 can i do advance restore data, so i can have all of my apps and homescreans like before?
thanks

Any help...I want to upgrade tonight. Thanks
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You can try it but I recommend a fresh install instead of restoring. You might run into some problems and force closes. It varies for some people. You can always update to 2.2 doba NAND backup and then try your restore of data and if you have problems just use your restore you made and manually install them again. I personally only restore when I'm on the same android version. Good luck

This is stupid...but is there any way to get my saved data for my games back if I fresh install them...in particular the Sims 3.
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I honestly don't know I've never played games on my phone. Do you have to login on sims to play it? I'd assume if you did it would probably still be saved.

andrewt328 said:
This is stupid...but is there any way to get my saved data for my games back if I fresh install them...in particular the Sims 3.
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I have this problem with the game "ninjas live" i loose all of my save data unless i flash backup restore, I need a way to get my same data back on a new rom. titainium and any other backup app does not restore the data on ninjas live like a clockwork restore. But the downside is force closes from the clockwork restore.

Titanium backup.
Ive also done the advance restore through cwm for data after odin flash many times and no problems.
worse case odin back and restore then use titanium b/u.

It does not require a login...but i guess ill update to 2.2 do an advanced restore data and if it messes up ill do titanium backup and if all fails start all my games over

This has been my biggest beef with all the ROM updates/changes as well. There is not an easy way to backup your personal data and restore it without massive force closes here and there...oy vey. Lots of experience with that on my G1
Is there any dev's working on handling this issue right now? Would hate to do it myself....

updated to the quantum rom 2.7 with ext4...did an advanced data restore, and everything is fine so far...no force closes yet...

If you're as lucky as me and a few others. Try just runing the 2.2.1 update.zip. It will keep all your games saves, apps and homepages as they are. But the risk you run is that it might run buggy. I guess its a 50 50 shot.
You might luck out, like me.

Xperia Play epicly failing....please help?

What's going on guys? I've had my Play for a while and for the most part I love it...def could be faster but thats ok.
So, the problem. I'm rooted, but stock rom and kernel. I was using go launcher, go sms and have alot of apps, a 32gb sd card thats almost full. I installed go locker a couple nights ago and it was running great. Then, the next day, I have no clue if it relates to go locker...but now my phone is like on life support or something!
75% of apps force close upon opening, the phone is deathly slow if it doesnt close...like I'll open up "settings" and it will either FC or take 2 minutes to load up...then it loads and I click something and it FCs. SOMETIMES an app will open fine, play fine. Like muffin knight, sometimes it opens and plays 100%. other times it instantly FCs over and over. Every single app no matter how complex is subject to the same problems in the same way.
I honestly have no clue wtf is wrong. It feels analgous to a computer virus. Everything is bogged and broken. I tried cleaning my phone. I uninstalled every launcher and theme app, and then uninstalled about a dozen apps I dont use alot. I left mself with the bare minumum....Id then open the "messaging" app and it would crawl open to greet me with a force close. It doesnt seem to be a problem with any specific app.
I checked battery use....very normal stuff. I don't know whats going on!! but my phone barely works....someone will call and it will take 10 seconds for me to be able to slide the slider and accept the call...
Anyone have any direction for me? I don't want to flash any kernels or roms yet (waiting for 100% stability) and I'm busy right now w tests and I just want my phone back to how it was a few days ago. I'm using adw launcher now and its the same as with the go launcher or without anything....slow, force closes everywhere, hang ups everywhere...
thanks SO much for any help from anybody...I really appreciate it.

What device are you running? R800x? R800i?
Is your bootloader unlocked? What firmware/android version are you on?
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Leraeniesh said:
What device are you running? R800x? R800i?
Is your bootloader unlocked? What firmware/android version are you on?
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r800x, unlocked bootloader through hardfix with Alejandrissimo....and most current Verizon firmware so 2.3.4 (right?)
since I rooted it I haven't messed it with it much, just took the liberty of using apps like root explorer and stuff

Dyelon said:
r800x, unlocked bootloader through hardfix with Alejandrissimo....and most current Verizon firmware so 2.3.4 (right?)
since I rooted it I haven't messed it with it much, just took the liberty of using apps like root explorer and stuff
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If you have CWR installed I'd try to wipe the cache and dalvik cache. I've had weird things like that happen and wiping them fixes it.
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Clienterror said:
If you have CWR installed I'd try to wipe the cache and dalvik cache. I've had weird things like that happen and wiping them fixes it.
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I don't think I do....I'm really noob when it comes to the in depth rooting stuff but I don't even think I have a nandroid backup...
I can boot to that orange screen and I did save my state when I initially rooted...
How do I clear the caches for that stuff? Davlik, can that be done thru titanium backup?
and what about the other cache? How do I see if I have clockword recovery? (I never intentionally installed it so I don't think I have it?)

Okay so I wiped the davlik cache (like 24mb) thru titanium backup....and then I reinstalled the market (one of the more troublesome apps to open)...and then rebooted.
Tried opening a few apps in succession upon boot, and for the first time ever the phone froze and rebooted itself!
What the hell is going on?? Lol my phone was fine a few days ago and now its just insufferable!!
Any more ideas as to whats going on?
I never dled clockwork mod so I don't think I can wipe that cache?

Deleting dalvik-cache via Titanium Backup only deletes "unneeded" caches. You need to delete every dalvik-cache by going into data/dalvik-cache and deleting every file in it. Then reboot, which will rebuild the caches (first boot will take a while)

jacklebott said:
Deleting dalvik-cache via Titanium Backup only deletes "unneeded" caches. You need to delete every dalvik-cache by going into data/dalvik-cache and deleting every file in it. Then reboot, which will rebuild the caches (first boot will take a while)
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I deleted every file in the davlik cache folder...rebooted.
No change. Takes 10 seconds to open the phone...everything is slow/force closing.
Sigh. My phone is possessed and/or dying.

Then I suggest backing up your user-apps (if still possible) and doing a factory reset

Do a nandroid backup, then factory reset. Then install apps one by one testing for stability after each. If an app is causing problems that will identify it. Or provide us with a list of your apps and we could help determine if one of them may be the culprit.

jacklebott said:
Then I suggest backing up your user-apps (if still possible) and doing a factory reset
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Wouldn't factory reset erase my root? Or no?
I paid for that root haha that would be disappointing

Dyelon said:
Wouldn't factory reset erase my root? Or no?
I paid for that root haha that would be disappointing
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I assume you paid to unlock the bootloader (reset does nothing to this). Root is much more easily obtained
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859

It won't. factory rest doesn't wrote the system partition where root is located.

Factory reset.

Please dont be scared of losing root, just use the search bar and type in doomlord zergrush. His script has to be the easiest most automated way to get root on any xeria firmware ever

TheCraig said:
Factory reset.
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Just want to thank you guys alot. I backed up everything i cared about in Titanium and did a factory reset...everythings running 100% now and I have all my apps back in place...
I really appreciate the help

[Q] A few random questions about cwm, backup etc

I have successfully rooted my device using the version 2.0.0 of the toolkit. I think I'm going to donate a few euros to get the latest, the author deserves all the money.
A few questions:
What exactly is CWM? What's the difference between a backup made with titanium backup and a backup made with CWM? Is it enough to backup the system settings or do I need to backup even the apps? I mean the list of installed and purchased apps should be always available on the Google play account, at least I hope so...
Should I download the latest version of CWM (the . IMG file) and flash it with the toolkit or should I use the integrated version that seems to be IN the toolkit?
Thanks in advance for the answers.

A CWM backup will backup everything. If you restore it, your device will be exactly the same as it was when the backup was made.
Titanium backup only backs up apps and their data

But with titanium backup do I need to backup all the or only their data?
Is CWM useful even to install other Roms?
Sorry for the confusion: I'm not an expert.

Clock work mod will backup your entire android build as it is. all data, apps, settings, contacts, messages. etc
Titanium will backup apps and their data only
If you bork your software or try another rom then decide you want to go back, a Cwm backup will take you right back to the exact point you made the backup
Titanium is useful to have when changing roms because after loading a new one you can load your previous apps & data into your new rom whereas Cwm would completely overwrite the rom
In essence they are similar but perform completely different tasks
Sent from my Nexus 7
With titanium I usually just backup all user apps with data (meaning anything you have downloaded that is not part of the rom)
You cannot flash a new rom with titanium. that is what Cwm is for
Cwm deals with the roms
Titanium deals with apps

CWM & Backup
nihil39 said:
I have successfully rooted my device using the version 2.0.0 of the toolkit. I think I'm going to donate a few euros to get the latest, the author deserves all the money.
A few questions:
What exactly is CWM? What's the difference between a backup made with titanium backup and a backup made with CWM? Is it enough to backup the system settings or do I need to backup even the apps? I mean the list of installed and purchased apps should be always available on the Google play account, at least I hope so...
Should I download the latest version of CWM (the . IMG file) and flash it with the toolkit or should I use the integrated version that seems to be IN the toolkit?
Thanks in advance for the answers.
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CWM is a recovery mod used for Flashing new rom while at the same time gives you handy things to do like, do a NANDROID- Creating a image for ur current rom and all its sys settings with apps and there data. U can also Flash other things like a previously created Update.zip for Titanium Backup, which is helpful after u have flashed a new rom and want all ur previous apps and data back.
A small thing a consider sharing, When Flashing a new ROM, Back up only the apps+data thing and not the System. As ur new ROM will have its own System settings (better to adjust it then than bfore). Now, also Create an update.zip, which a mentioned earlier from TitBckp Menu.
Have Fun.

bagofcrap24 said:
Clock work mod will backup your entire android build as it is. all data, apps, settings, contacts, messages. etc
Titanium will backup apps and their data only
If you bork your software or try another rom then decide you want to go back, a Cwm backup will take you right back to the exact point you made the backup
Titanium is useful to have when changing roms because after loading a new one you can load your previous apps & data into your new rom whereas Cwm would completely overwrite the rom
In essence they are similar but perform completely different tasks
Sent from my Nexus 7
With titanium I usually just backup all user apps with data (meaning anything you have downloaded that is not part of the rom)
You cannot flash a new rom with titanium. that is what Cwm is for
Cwm deals with the roms
Titanium deals with apps
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Thanks.
I still don't get the point of backing up apps. I mean: their settings (and system settings) ok but why backup something that can be downloaded again from google play store? I guess my account keeps record of my installed and (above all) purchased apps (tapatalk only). Am I wrong?
Other question:
I'm using the stock Jelly Bean 4.1.1 rooted and I don't want to mess with cooked roms whatsoever. I rooted the device in order to get USB on the go support and TiBackup.
Will I get updates from google or I will have to manually flash a rooted version of an updated Rom? I think I will have to install CWM at the end, I guess

etgine sandy
nihil39 said:
Thanks.
I still don't get the point of backing up apps. I mean: their settings (and system settings) ok but why backup something that can be downloaded again from google play store? I guess my account keeps record of my installed and (above all) purchased apps (tapatalk only). Am I wrong?
Other question:
I'm using the stock Jelly Bean 4.1.1 rooted and I don't want to mess with cooked roms whatsoever. I rooted the device in order to get USB on the go support and TiBackup.
Will I get updates from google or I will have to manually flash a rooted version of an updated Rom? I think I will have to install CWM at the end, I guess
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Please answer at least the last question...

nihil39 said:
Please answer at least the last question...
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Edit: If google release an update, you dont have to relock it

Jordanooo said:
If google release an update, i think you will have to relock your bootloader to get it officially.
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You do not have to lock your bootloader to get an update only reason to lock it is if you have to return it
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spaceman860 said:
You do not have to lock your bootloader to get an update only reason to lock it is if you have to return it
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So, in my condition (rooted stock rom) will I get the official google updates without doing anything?

You will still get the updates but Cwm will not be able to install them.
You would need the stock recovery to apply ota updates
In reference to your previous question regarding titanium. You could re download the apps from play store after a wipe.
Titanium also restores any preferences you had saved. And in the case of games it will also restore your progress & game saves
Sent from my Nexus 7

Thanks, so there's no point in backing up the whole app, we only need its data and settings.
I haven't installed cwm yet. Did you use the toolkit downloadable from another thread in this forum? If yes, does the toolkit automatically download the latest version of cwm?

I'm not sure with the tooolkits
I have never rated them
It's much wiser to learn to do these things manually as it really doesn't take very much learning and it's always valuable to know what to do in case you bork something
Sent from my Nexus 7

Does cwm also backup sripts like link2sd and 2nd fat32 partition?

[Q] Backing Up Multi Users

Hello. Has anyone found a way to do this yet? I found a couple threads that dated a couple months ago with the same question but no answer. So if anyone has figured out a way to backup the apps and data on both a primary and secondary user account please help. Im pretty sure others are interested as well. I really want to try out some different roms but my brother will be really mad if I lose all his data again . Last time i backed the tablet up with wugfreshs toolkit thinking itd back up everything and when i found out it didnt after restoring i was screwed lol. Is there a way to pick what you want to restore with twrp? I know for my phone in cwm you can do an advanced restore and restore just certain things like apps and data. Is that possible for nexus 10?

I have the same problem kind of.
Have not tested but if you make nandroid backup in twrp on at least the data partition you should get all user data in the backup, right?
I however would like to make selected app backup in titanium where i could choose to include data for all or just single user. Not sure if possible.
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Johan1976 said:
I have the same problem kind of.
Have not tested but if you make nandroid backup in twrp on at least the data partition you should get all user data in the backup, right?
I however would like to make selected app backup in titanium where i could choose to include data for all or just single user. Not sure if possible.
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Yes with tarp it backs up all user data. But like you I also want to backup certain apps with titanium. I hope they add this feature soon because I like changing Roms to see my favorite. I'm about to flash paranoid android and I did a full backup first. If my bro gets mad I'll just restore the backup so he can have his stuff back
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Well i tried installing paranoid android. Then booted fine then i restored data via twrp and it wont boot i guess that doesnt work. Any other suggestions fir backing up multi accounts?
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If anyone is interested go into super su and enable multiusers so now you have root on all accounts then just back up apps on each account with titanium backup and move then to pc (just in case) then you can flash any rom you want and restore the apps. Hurray . Its not as smooth as id like becaise wiping data wipes new accounts so you have to readd them but just back up all pics to google plus and anything else to cpu. Your apps and data from titanium backup will be backed up and now you have everything saved. So if anyone needs this it works. Took me a while to finally figure out a way with lots of nandroid restoring but now i.got it
Time to flash some roms till i find a favorite
As u can see im very happy
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Johan1976 said:
I have the same problem kind of.
Have not tested but if you make nandroid backup in twrp on at least the data partition you should get all user data in the backup, right?
I however would like to make selected app backup in titanium where i could choose to include data for all or just single user. Not sure if possible.
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I found a solution that should help.look at my previous post
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abdel12345 said:
If anyone is interested go into super su and enable multiusers so now you have root on all accounts then just back up apps on each account with titanium backup and move then to pc (just in case) then you can flash any rom you want and restore the apps. Hurray . Its not as smooth as id like becaise wiping data wipes new accounts so you have to readd them but just back up all pics to google plus and anything else to cpu. Your apps and data from titanium backup will be backed up and now you have everything saved. So if anyone needs this it works. Took me a while to finally figure out a way with lots of nandroid restoring but now i.got it
Time to flash some roms till i find a favorite
As u can see im very happy
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I am trying to do the same as you! The way you described doing it, I think you are just using Titanium backup app and not nandroid backups in the end, is that right? So you used Titanium backup all your apps and their data (but not photos/other documents/files on your tablet), and then you flashed your new custom ROM and used Titanium again to restore all apps/data in each user account separately? Sounds straightforward if I have this right! I have not done this before, so want to understand it before I do!! Thanks for your help... :good:

glastolover27 said:
I am trying to do the same as you! The way you described doing it, I think you are just using Titanium backup app and not nandroid backups in the end, is that right? So you used Titanium backup all your apps and their data (but not photos/other documents/files on your tablet), and then you flashed your new custom ROM and used Titanium again to restore all apps/data in each user account separately? Sounds straightforward if I have this right! I have not done this before, so want to understand it before I do!! Thanks for your help... :good:
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It's kind of annoying but it works. You have to back up the apps in each account then move it to a computer then back up the next account and move it to computer then back up the next etc... You have to do this because it erases the secondary accounts when flashing a new ROM so you lose all the backups you made. So putting it on a CPU then moving it back after the flash will make sure you have them
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abdel12345 said:
It's kind of annoying but it works. You have to back up the apps in each account then move it to a computer then back up the next account and move it to computer then back up the next etc... You have to do this because it erases the secondary accounts when flashing a new ROM so you lose all the backups you made. So putting it on a CPU then moving it back after the flash will make sure you have them
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OK, thanks, sounds like I had described the right technique... will give it a try!