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Nandorid process for the epic?

So I'm new to this phone and I'm unsure about its backup process and its restore process. I come from the moto cliq phone and that phone had a different custom recovery that in my opinion was better.
With this clockwork recovery unless I'm doing something wrong I get force closes left and right when I do a rom restore. So what happens is I completely restore the rom and as soon as the phone loads into it everything will give me force close warnings which in return never let's me fully load in, making the restore crap! Because I have to start fresh.
So could anyone here tell me the proper process of backing up my rom/ restoring, using this clockwork recovery? Or is this a known bug? Rom I was using was EE 1.2.9.
Thank you for any sorta help.
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Pvt WhoOkid said:
So I'm new to this phone and I'm unsure about its backup process and its restore process. I come from the moto cliq phone and that phone had a different custom recovery that in my opinion was better.
With this clockwork recovery unless I'm doing something wrong I get force closes left and right when I do a rom restore. So what happens is I completely restore the rom and as soon as the phone loads into it everything will give me force close warnings which in return never let's me fully load in, making the restore crap! Because I have to start fresh.
So could anyone here tell me the proper process of backing up my rom/ restoring, using this clockwork recovery? Or is this a known bug? Rom I was using was EE 1.2.9.
Thank you for any sorta help.
- Its just going to be Epic!
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I can't tell right off, because EE is updated now, but is EE 1.2.9 a froyo ROM? Some apps will FC because they are NOT for froyo. If you did the backup from eclair and then flashed to a Froyo rom you may see those FCs.
You might try booting into clockwork, wiping the cache and user data and system, then doing an advanced restore and restoring just the data. But again, apps that are not supposed to run on froyo will fc.
Also, it sounds like you can re-load everything fresh with too much hassle - you've had lots of practice by now - why not try flashing a new EE ROM like 2.0.0.01. Follow the instructions and FLASH the DK17 modem. Then you can reload your apps from the market and do an updated nandroid/clockwork backup.

EE 1.2.9 is the rom before the froyo beta drop that he did. When I do backups everything goes smoothly, but when I restore and I just hit restore a rom it seems to restore fine, but the min I pass the load up screen all I get is force close for everything.
I don't know if I'm doing my back ups or restores wrong or if maybe it could be the rom? But somehow I doubt its the rom. I'm trying to figure out if there's a procress to backup or restore that I'm doing wrong?
All I hit is back up when doing my nandroid and to restore I just hit restore, I didn't do advance restore. Any tips?
Thanks for the reply.
- Its just going to be Epic!

Are you using a theme? Any time I have tried to restore a theme it has caused endless force closes.
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Pvt WhoOkid said:
EE 1.2.9 is the rom before the froyo beta drop that he did. When I do backups everything goes smoothly, but when I restore and I just hit restore a rom it seems to restore fine, but the min I pass the load up screen all I get is force close for everything.
I don't know if I'm doing my back ups or restores wrong or if maybe it could be the rom? But somehow I doubt its the rom. I'm trying to figure out if there's a procress to backup or restore that I'm doing wrong?
All I hit is back up when doing my nandroid and to restore I just hit restore, I didn't do advance restore. Any tips?
Thanks for the reply.
- Its just going to be Epic!
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So at some point your phone is runnign with NO fc's? And then you back up and restore to test the backup, and suddenly you have FCs? You should not get FC's from restoring a nandroid backup that you had just made from a flawless ROM.
It's possible that one of your resident programs is conflicting with the others - if you go into settings, applications, running services, do you see anything there that perhaps should not be there?

s9ortner said:
Are you using a theme? Any time I have tried to restore a theme it has caused endless force closes.
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I've never used a theme for my epic, none really catch my eye.
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bilestoad said:
So at some point your phone is runnign with NO fc's? And then you back up and restore to test the backup, and suddenly you have FCs? You should not get FC's from restoring a nandroid backup that you had just made from a flawless ROM.
It's possible that one of your resident programs is conflicting with the others - if you go into settings, applications, running services, do you see anything there that perhaps should not be there?
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You're exactly correct. A perfect example is right now I'm running EE 1.2.9 with no force closing problems with all my apps installed and everything is running smoothly, I made a back up and then wiped my phone completely of everything.
Then went ahead and tried hitting restore, everything seemed to have restored because I got no errors in recovery but the min the phone loaded into home screen I get errors like "launcher pro force close, beautiful widgets force close." And so on.. I've clicked over 100 times force close and everything seems to give to me force close errors renderng my phone useless, after the system restore.
So I had to start fresh again and just reinstalled everything and everything is working fine. Weird huh? I don't know what I could be doing wrong.
Thanks for the help.
- Its just going to be Epic!

You need to do an advanced restore and only restore data. Basically you flashing a 2.1 rom over a 2.2 rom this will break things. Since you are going from 2.1 to 2.2 your best bet is to reinstall all your apps from scratch or use titanium backup to restore your apps. You are bringing in data from 2.1 to 2.2 that shouldn't be there that is why your getting fc's.
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skeeterslint said:
You need to do an advanced restore and only restore data. Basically you flashing a 2.1 rom over a 2.2 rom this will break things. Since you are going from 2.1 to 2.2 your best bet is to reinstall all your apps from scratch or use titanium backup to restore your apps. You are bringing in data from 2.1 to 2.2 that shouldn't be there that is why your getting fc's.
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I'm not updating to 2.2 yet. This all is happening on 2.1 using EE 1.2.9 (eclair.) Which doesn't make sense to me at all. Unless something is wrong with clockwork recovery?
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ROM Manager question

Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?

durrett syndrome said:
Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?
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In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.

Backup your apps with Titanium backup.

I suggest doing both rom manager and titanium backup
Just in case.

If you go to a differemt rom you could restore all apps in clockwork by going into advanced restore under cwm and choosing to restore only /data however with some roms that's not recommended and could cause issues. If you restore the whole backup through cwm then it would overwrite whatever rom you have loaded.
With titanium backup you can backup just individual applications and restore their data or data and the app itself so as someone else said above that's your best bet.
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futureprospect said:
In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.
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Backing up with rom manager is literally backing up with clockwork mod. ROM manager just reboots the phone into cwm and makes the backup there. Clockwork mod backups have always worked for me.

When I tried to use ROM Manager it wouldn't work properly. Someone a while ago complained that booting into cwm with the app causes errors. I wouldn't rely on the app at all if I were you.
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Manually boot into cwm and backup, the app doesnt work properly. I tried backing up a rom and it said it was backed up after 10 seconds. The rom file was 3 mbs...the backup should be near 100, if not more.
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Gotta add my cold water here. ROM manager has been less than useless for me, screwing up things every time I've tried it.
Stick to backing up the entire system from CWM, and a full backup via Titanium to have access to individual apps as needed. This has always worked for me, and many others here.
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So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.

durrett syndrome said:
So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.
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Technically, yes, but it is not recommended. Restoring data when moving between roms is usually when errors start happening. Also Rom manager does not work with the epic so there is probably no data in the file it created. You would have to boot into clockwork mod and backup from there.or use titanium backup and then restore just the apps when you switch roms.
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Just my 2 cents...everyone here keeps saying to use Titanium, give Mybackup Root a try. Its free and has a good UI. Titanium seems to make it more complicated than it needs to be.
Other than that, the other posts here are correct, it doesnt matter what ROM you are running when you make or restore a backup, apps and their data will transfer and restore just fine, BUT like stated by others, system data does not always play well between ROMs and in my opinion you are better off not trying to restore that when you switch between ROMs...has given me more than one headache.

+1 on MyBackup Root. I find it to be more user friendly and just as effective as Titanium as well. I make a backup of everything (apks,data,photos,system settings, etc) at 4am everyday while I'm asleep. I plan on sticking with ACS so this is just a security net since they still do not use journaling. However if I want to try a different rom I can always choose to restore only the apks from the backup file.

The epic has not gotten rom manager support yet so it doesn't work and cwm can fail if you are switching between cm7 and acs cwm will give you a md5 mismatch so I had to re flash acs then restore data. So use titanium to restore apps.
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Restore appdata after flashing ROMs

I've been flashing ROMs for a while. Tried many different kernels of coarse that are compatible with the ROM, and as far as I know I've been doing it the way it should be done. However, one thing I haven't tried is restoring the progress/saves/data of my apps. I gave it some thought and figured this should be possible and I just haven't looked into it. I hope it is, I am now 3weeks into the same ROM and I want to update already but I don't want to loose my progress. If it is possible could someone help me or point me in a direction where I can get help. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
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If your switching roms completely I would recommend titanium backup. With that you can backup apps and app data. If you are simply upgrading the same rom, just wipe cache partition and dalvik cache then flash. All your apps and data stay. Just the updatetd files are plugged into the rom.
As far as your suggested method, I have no idea. Never really tried or looked into anything else. I guess it never really was necessary.

^ I may be making this more complicated then it already is but if I were to switch to titanium backup would i have to switch to AmonRA recovery since I already have clockworkmod recovery with ROMmanager? Also If I may want to try a different ROM other than the update, is there another route besides titanium backup (assuming I would have to switch to amonRA). I ask this because I've looked through the SD folders and found a folder called Android that had some apps in it, I'm wondering if there is a folder such as this I can copy and restore if I were to Switch ROMs?

titanium backup is just an app. it has nothing to do with recovery, so no, you dont have to switch recoveries

Mybackup root is also another free alternative app.

Titanium Backup saves all the app/data information onto your SD card, that way when you flash another rom you have to download the app again and you could reinstall just the app, or app with user data.
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Titanium Backup is a lifesaver. Before I flash a new ROM, I make sure my app backups are straight, then after flashing the ROM, all I have to do is go to the Market, redownload Titanium Backup, then restore all my apps. It allows me to change ROMs in an afternoon and be using my phone that night like any night before. Buy the full version, because you need it to restore apps in one big batch operation.

JaylanPHNX said:
Titanium Backup is a lifesaver. Before I flash a new ROM, I make sure my app backups are straight, then after flashing the ROM, all I have to do is go to the Market, redownload Titanium Backup, then restore all my apps. It allows me to change ROMs in an afternoon and be using my phone that night like any night before. Buy the full version, because you need it to restore apps in one big batch operation.
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You can do batch restore with the free version also
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Virtous fusion/unity help wanted

Hey so for people using virtous unity I have a question. If I were to full wipe and install from fusion could I keep my tapfish and other apps which I paid to receive credits in? Cause before I flashed and did full wipe and it would delete all my progress and I titanium back up the data and app but it still didn't work can someone please help me!?
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i think if you do an advanced restore in cwm you can choose to restore just the data from your previous rom. i've never done it but you might wanna look into it and give it a try

Titanium Backup works with tapfish, as well as those other games like contract killer, BTG. It may seem like you were just screwed over, but you weren't. Back up app+data, then restore it on the other ROM. First, restore app+data. After Android asks if you want to install the app, install it. Do NOT press open. Press DONE. When you're in titanium, just restore the data to the same app. It will work.
Tl;dr version: backup app/data
Restore app/data
Restore data only ( data is restored twice )
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[Q]How to get back all of your app

Previously I'm on 2.3.2 r800a and my build number ends with .181 rooted, then I update using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
so I create a backup using mybackup root, then flash my phone, but then after my screen turns on, I cant find any apps that I installed.. The only apps there is the pre installed apps on the phone.. So I root it using gingerbreak 1.2 then update it OTA. I have now 2.3.3 rooted then my previous r800a became r800i and the last digits of my build number is .185 now.I download the mybackup root to restore it. So basically almost all of my apps are back.. But when I try to run them almost all of the apps are 'Force Close'
So what seems to be the problem? I can't post my queries at that thread right now because my post count is not enough.

I don't know mybackup, but when you restore do you restore apps only or apps and data? Cuz if it's the last option it can cause trouble and fc's, cuz you're restoring on a different firmware build.
Regards Dousan...

I restore it like the way I back it up. Apk's + Data.. Did I do it the wrong way?

Can you choose apps only when you want to restore from mybackup?
Regards Dousan...

This happend to me to on my previous phone and regularly used to upgrade on custom roms and I noticed this only happend when I moved to a higher or lower android version... I think the data in the Apps have 2.3.2 registered so when you have 2.3.3 it probably recognizes it differently so it FCs try restoring data only or try restoring 5-10 Apps at a time rather than all at once (caused some problems at times when I restored Apps with data all at once)
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Dousan said:
Can you choose apps only when you want to restore from mybackup?
Regards Dousan...
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Done trying to restore it using apk's only then data only, but it didn't work..
ammarcool12 said:
This happend to me to on my previous phone and regularly used to upgrade on custom roms and I noticed this only happend when I moved to a higher or lower android version... I think the data in the Apps have 2.3.2 registered so when you have 2.3.3 it probably recognizes it differently so it FCs try restoring data only or try restoring 5-10 Apps at a time rather than all at once (caused some problems at times when I restored Apps with data all at once)
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I also try this. I restore it one at a time but still force close. Unfortunately no luck..
I guess I will just uninstall that apps and games then download a new one.

My point was to only install apps and nothing else, cuz it's the data part that messes up the apps in most cases, on a new FW build number. Some apps and games might need an update to work but most should work when just restoring the apps and no data
I haven't had any issues doing it like that.
Well a clean install might be a good thing.
Regards Dousan...

Dousan said:
My point was to only install apps and nothing else, cuz it's the data part that messes up the apps in most cases, on a new FW build number. Some apps and games might need an update to work but most should work when just restoring the apps and no data
I haven't had any issues doing it like that.
Well a clean install might be a good thing.
Regards Dousan...
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Sir, no app in choices, only apk & data.. Is the apk supposed to be the app? but that's just the installer.. So if I install it I think it will still use the previous data..

It must be the way mybackup makes a backup and restores it. Titanium does it differently when restoring, you get the choice to restore app or app/data. Yes app is the apk.
I think you're gonna go the long way and install your apps from scratch mate and loose the data you've backed up.
You could always flash 2.3.2 (UK generic 1.84) again, then root and restore apps through mybackup. Then install titanium backup and do a full backup through that, then do the OTA again and once booted into 2.3.3 restore through titanium and this time only apps no data.
Regards Dousan...

Dousan said:
I think you're gonna go the long way and install your apps from scratch mate and loose the data you've backed up.
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Unfortunately, I'm just gonna do it this way.. Good thing is some apps and games that i purchase is still working..
I choose mybackup root because I dont know how to backup using titanium.. Until now..

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