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Desire HD never lagged again, best kernel for stock sense

So i've decided to post this, simply because ive been enjoying my DHD so much running super smooth, i've done so much experimentation to be sure of my results
yest i was trying my friend DHD and i've encountered bad lag again, i've checked his USB debugging and it was accidentally turned off for god knows why, i turned it on and the situation got better but not as good as mine
i like sense and a stock experience, i have my DHD rooted with the stock 1.32.405.6, i tried almost every Buzz and kamma kernel and i reached one conclusion
ever since both Buzz (v1.0.7) and kamma (v1.0) merged their kernels with the CM kernel its been trouble for stock sense for too many reasons to list in here
Buzz kernel v1.0.6 is the best for sense its based on HTC own kernel just much improved with careful UV, improved CPU governors and all the CPU speed steps you might need, i've been running it using interactive governor at just 1113mhz max and 245min no profiles and its really a dream to use (of course with USB debugging always on)
never lags when you unlock the screen, never lags when you scroll the messages widget or a folder on the home screen, barely any lag when u switch wifi on, never locked up or rebooted, i've been on it for over a month
seriously smooth performance and stability out of this kernel, equally i had my phone charged before going to the pub last Friday, with moderate use i only had to recharge Sunday night thats 48 hours!
i know many of you will flame me for this post and Apache14 will hate me but i wanted to share this and help everyone who has problems with lag
Thank you Apache14 for making my DHD a better device
[edit] Its best to flash it using kernel update utility to prevent boot loops
[edit 2] sadly all Buzz Kernels up to 1.1.4 including 1.0.6 will not work with update 1.72.405.2, it will break the microphone and maybe other things so we need to wait for updated kernels (updated below)
[UDPATE] for Those running firmware 1.72 buzz kernel v1.2.2 runs even better then v1.06, as always flash it using kernel update utility
However for rooted stock 1.72, after flashing the kernel and modules, you will need to replace two lib files otherwise the video playback will break, Apache still didn't include them in his zip file
i've attached them for those who need them (use root explorer to replace the two files) also attached the stock 1.72 kernel with the original lib files just in case you run into trouble
kernel update utility
Buzz Kernel 1.2.2

I saw you suggesting this several times but now i had to try to see, i was using kamma 1.2 but had some lags, indeed DHD is smoother with 1.06

robE9 said:
I saw you suggesting this several times but now i had to try to see, i was using kamma 1.2 but had some lags, indeed DHD is smoother with 1.06
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yea sorry i have the tendency to insist when i know i'm right
anyway keep it there for a while and report back, when things load up it runs better
Apache releases for both CM and Sense roms, but his work is no longer optimized for sense roms
kamma uses BFS now which is sometimes faster but causes inconsistency in sense UI frame rates

Actually i tried to flash 1.12 but had a bootlopp and was afraid to try again but now seems ok , you tried 1.12 ?

I doubt Apache will hate you just for saying his 1.0.6 is better for stock sense...
Anyway Apache is a nice guy...no worries

robE9 said:
Actually i tried to flash 1.12 but had a bootlopp and was afraid to try again but now seems ok , you tried 1.12 ?
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Always use the kernel update utility and you will never get bootloops with any of his kernels

you will get bootloops with buzz kernels unless you use the kernel flash tool
yes i tried 1.1.2 same results as always, never as good as 1.0.6 always contains some bugs and instability, 1.1.2 is aggressively undervolted so its unstable plus contains a serious bug with the interactive governor it was solved with v1.1.3 and v1.1.4
like i said all kernels over v1.0.6 are based on a Cyanogen kernel, which is really so unstable with sense Rom no matter which version

Confirm...
I can confirm that 1.0.6 is the best solution, i have been running it now for 4 days and it is super smooth... I have installed all of these kernels but this one is the best.

yes the problem now we have to update once android revolution is out with base OTA 1.72
it can only work with the coming buzz v1.1.5
v1.0.6 is just so good its how HTC should have released the DHD

hi guyz,
I didnt use kernel update, so...I flashed via clockwork recovery and now it started boot-loop.
I saw I need to boot my device in order to use kernel update tool. so...how to boot it if it's in bootloop??
tnx in advance
EDIT: solved with a clockwork restore

Ok Im running 1.0.6 at te moment , so far so good let's see what the battery usage is like. Definitely speedy!!!!

I agree that 1.0.6 is great! Been running the 1.51 version since it came out few weeks ago. I use min 245 max 1.2 with smartass, no profiles. No lags and great battery life (MAX 2 days). I had some reboots at max freq. so I don't use it anymore. Guess I could just use the uvoc version . Have not tried the newer versions but the reactions seem not so great. If it's because of the CM kernel being used, I hope apache will continue his great work with the stock kernel!
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What kernel specifically are you all using? As I see 3 separate kernels available being the 3 underneath this and only 2 of them have a version 1.0.6 which are the top two, just wondered which one you're all using
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835616
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835608
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836259

Burning_aces said:
What kernel specifically are you all using? As I see 3 separate kernels available being the 3 underneath this and only 2 of them have a version 1.0.6 which are the top two, just wondered which one you're all using
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835616
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835608
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836259
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This one mate
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15005030/Buzz_1.0.6_OC+.zip

lefty83 said:
This one mate
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15005030/Buzz_1.0.6_OC+.zip
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ah the 1.51ghz one
thanks

i just flashed this 1.06 kernel and it brought back waking the phone via the vol keys! No wonder it didn't work on the new roms that had the newer apache kernels..
so now i can wake the phone with the vol keys and i'm a happy camper!
*edit* realised a couple of things wrong.. the waking up with vol was only immediately after i turned off power to the phone, so that was a false alarm. and secondly i've got no wifi... so i'm gona try to reflash again.
*edit 2* ok wifi's working fine for me.. still no wake with vol keys though.. oh well..

lukesky said:
i just flashed this 1.06 kernel and it brought back waking the phone via the vol keys! No wonder it didn't work on the new roms that had the newer apache kernels..
so now i can wake the phone with the vol keys and i'm a happy camper!
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Cant get it to wake via the vol keys. Any further settings required for that?

I might try this and see how it goes, although I have no problems or lag with the latest one, but battery life is aweful because I spend far too much time playing flick kick football and fieldgoal, backbreaker and angry birds whilst listening to music in the background and watching videos in youtube/skyfire, that lasts me around a day

MrYuiM said:
I might try this and see how it goes, although I have no problems or lag with the latest one, but battery life is aweful because I spend far too much time playing flick kick football and fieldgoal, backbreaker and angry birds whilst listening to music in the background and watching videos in youtube/skyfire, that lasts me around a day
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thats great battery performance out of any device believe me

HTCTourist said:
Cant get it to wake via the vol keys. Any further settings required for that?
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on stock kernel, u can use an app like widgetlocker to do it

Performance issues games

I'm running the GB sbf and overclocked at 1250MHz/62 vsel. One particular game is Fruit Ninja by Halfbrick and the number of swipes and lags makes the game pretty much unplayable.
I have tried it on a clean boot and the same performance issues exist (it was the same before they released multi-touch support in the game as well). Has anyone else found similar problems?

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Ok, I tried two other games Raging Thunder 2 and Hyper Jump. Raging Thunder 2 simply switched the phone off after about 20 seconds (tried three times same outcome). Hyper Jump was also unreliable so I unrooted and removed the overclocking and the games have become more stable but not bulletproof and all seem to suffer intermittent lags. Does anyone think this is simply a hardware issue or another added advantage of motoblur?
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flibbulator said:
Does anyone think this is simply a hardware issue or another added advantage of motoblur?
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Nice one
This is what I experienced so far. Downloaded Fruit Ninja few days before it got multi touch. Found it really laggy and wanted to give it back but was too late for a refund. Then I updated my version when multi touch came along. It was better but not really smooth.
Once I disconnected my internet connection it once again became smoother but not as it is on iPhone/iPod Touch. But now it is absolutely playable and I'm getting very good at it.
I have the German Version, unrooted and not overclocked. Of course, I swear that Motoblur makes it lag as well.
What I recommend to do:
1-disconnect internet and try
2-back to stock, maybe downclock cpu and try
3-if not yet, update Fruit Ninja
4-Try to disable Motoblur with TitaniumBackup. There is a thread floating around here in the forums.
Keep us updated with any progress =)
Regarding other games I don't know.

I don't have my Milestone 2 yet, but from what I've read re MotoBlur it is a complete POS, and I would probably lean towards that causing lag on the phone as reports from people who have removed MotoBlur say the phone is now incredibly fast and responsive.
Remove MotoBlur:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855514
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10800001&postcount=26

No problems for me playing fruit ninja and Raging Thunder 2, on my M2 @ 1,2Ghz with UK sbf and all motoblur services and home kicked off with Titanium backup

patton82 said:
No problems for me playing fruit ninja and Raging Thunder 2, on my M2 @ 1,2Ghz with UK sbf and all motoblur services and home kicked off with Titanium backup
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It seems this is the way to go, I'll give it a go at some stage but it isn't critical as I use a Nokia N900 as my daily. Would love to have Maemo5 with Milestone hardware

I managed to remove the packages as Shellite recommends in this thread and performance is now outstanding.
The method isn't optimal from an aesthetic point of view but it does do exactly as intended. Just be aware that if you remove things like the blur widgets you still get the option to add them to your desktop but when selected they don't do anything.
Another thing I noticed in contacts and other areas where linking to social networking features all goes a little pear shaped if you have removed those services.
Anyway, it works well but until a nice clean rom is available the M2 won't be replacing my N900 anytime soon

[Q] please help guys :(

hi guys i have buyed a used samsung galaxy s gt-i9000 international from a friend of mine he used it like 6 month
i flashed to 2.3.4 JVQ dedoexed custome from darky's with dark core 2.9 lag fixs on and i did wipe and every thing
i have 160/337 ram free
i just installed nova 2 and order and chaos
nova 2 lags a little
and order and chaos glitch and lags alot when going to new places
i also installed ashpalt 5 its good
but ashpalt 6 lags aloot and also installed rainbow six it run smoth but sometimes lag
so im afraid there is some thing with the device
is there is any way to know if there is some thing wrong with ?
a program that test my hardware to know if there is something wrong
because all the people i asked they told me order and chaos run smooth with no lags at all
i tested my device with quadrant test a several times i got always between (1800 and 2200)
please guys any way to know if there is some thing wrong with my device
so i can return it if there is something wrong with it
waiting for ur help thanks in advance guys

any problems with the phone apart from with games?
try flashing a stock rom

Where did you get your gameloft games from? Make sure you're using the latest version, most games are rushed iOS ports and run fast on some phones and slow on others.
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I had problems with Nova 2 on stock JVP, it needs 70-75Mb of free RAM to run properly and Gingerbread seems more RAM hungry than Froyo was.
I flashed a RAM optimising script by JUWE and use the active apps to clear level1 RAM before gaming and no problems anymore.
Think Darky's has it's own version of RAM optimising, so just clear the RAM before playing. It's not your phone, it's the Gingerbread.

i did clear my ram befor playing
when i cleard it i had 160/337

tmzbeme said:
any problems with the phone apart from with games?
try flashing a stock rom
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no i dont think so
i tried live wallpapers they are good (i tried thunder storm run good ) and matrix 3d (also runs good smooth ) also tried (portal live wallpaper (runs good )
and tried skielivewallpaper (runs good ) i tried alot of live wallpapers most of them runs good and smooth
but there is one live wallpaper called (panda live wallpaper ) it lags
but most of them runs good
and im using the stock launcher

Chainfire has released a fix for this - search market for chainfire3d. Problem sorted! .

DMD9 said:
I had problems with Nova 2 on stock JVP, it needs 70-75Mb of free RAM to run properly and Gingerbread seems more RAM hungry than Froyo was.
I flashed a RAM optimising script by JUWE and use the active apps to clear level1 RAM before gaming and no problems anymore.
Think Darky's has it's own version of RAM optimising, so just clear the RAM before playing. It's not your phone, it's the Gingerbread.
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i dont know what u mean by Ram hack script
but i did clear my ram befor playing i got 160/337 ram free
i really want to play (order and chaos online) i love it alooot
its an amazing mmorpg but i want to play it with out lags and glitch and all other sgs users i have asked they told me they are playing it perfectly with out lags or glitch but all the people i asked they told they are playing from a stock 2.3.4 or 2.3.3 frimware
so what i should do

woolf clubs said:
Chainfire has released a fix for this - search market for chainfire3d. Problem sorted! .
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i didnt use chainfire on any game of this
all those games runs with out chainfire 3d on my sgs

Try a 2.2 ROM, for me the 2.3's still are not up to par with 2.2. I get a lot of FC's and spontanious reboots.

tommy320 said:
Try a 2.2 ROM, for me the 2.3's still are not up to par with 2.2. I get a lot of FC's and spontanious reboots.
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what is fc ?
and me too lots of time when i exit nova 2 i get reboot
ok i will try 2.2
but should i install 2.2 stock ? what to put in it lag fix
what should i flash with 2.2 could u tell me please

Hey man i dont know about nova 2 but asphalt works great on the f1 jvp mod.
you should try that rom

Try JVP or JVQ

Deadspace and GB / Legendary ROM -- work for anyone?

Just upgraded from Froyo EC05 4.0.0 Bonsai to Gingerbread Legendary EI22 RC2.1. I'm loving the ROM, but for one thing: the EA game Deadspace no longer works I just get a completely white screen, but can hear the sound.
Anyone else running it on GB, and even better Legendary ROM?
I've got Chainfire3D installed and configured exactly the same as it was on Froyo, with the QUALCOMM plugin. All my other games are working fine. In fact, I'm thrilled to report that Shadowgun works on EI22 (Legendary, at least, haven't tried any other GB ROMs, including the stock update) with the NVIDIA Chainfire3D plugin.
Stutters a little here and there (after all, the E4G doesn't have the graphics horsepower the game was designed for), but it is totally playable, and a lot of fun. Took a risk and bought the game from the market, and it didn't work on Froyo. I plan to get a Galaxy Nexus this month, so I wasn't too disappointed (it'll run on the GN). I was surprised and delighted when it did work on GB on my old Epic 4G!

[Q] Stock or CM for gaming?

I've a rooted KF with CM7 barebones and I've bought this device primarily for gaming, so I'm loving this ROM.
However, I do want to use other apps such as XDA forum app and browsing/reading apps. But some of these apps don't seem to be stable on CM. The irony especially is that the XDA app keeps crashing whenever I log in. So I can only browse the forum as a guest from my KF.
Now are there any gamers out there who are able to play games smoothly on a stock or stock rooted KF? I think especially games like Frontline Commando or Modern Combat 3 are heavy on the resources and if they play well on the Stock KF, then I should be happy with it.
Any inputs? Are there ones that really prefer the Stock ROM over CM7 for reasons other than stability - for reasons such as performance for instance?
Also, if I have a rooted stock KF and the anroid market, then are all the apps/games on the Market visible and installable? I am asking this since the CM7 spoofs Galaxy Tab to ensure compatibility.

I use MIUI 2.1.20 to play NOVA, Modern Combat, Shadow Gun, etc... I haven't found a single app that doesn't work (I've been using it for 6 days). Hope that helped! Feel free to send me a message if you wanna know more.

I'm running rooted stock and am able to play shadowgun without a hitch.
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ST3P_2 said:
I use MIUI 2.1.20 to play NOVA, Modern Combat, Shadow Gun, etc... I haven't found a single app that doesn't work (I've been using it for 6 days). Hope that helped! Feel free to send me a message if you wanna know more.
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Have you tried GTA3 and Sonic CD?

well... xda isnt stable on stock either. on rooted, without modifying build.prop, it wont show 75% of the games you mentioned. cm7 is definetly a better option.

PerkinWarbeck said:
Have you tried GTA3 and Sonic CD?
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I've tried GTA III but not sonic CD

Just to throw in my two cents... while I do like the customizations that are possible with CM7 and ICS I find that modified stock is more stable and, for my usage, better battery life.

You should try a Xbox 360 or a PS3 for actual gaming. Just saying...

Morrison79 said:
You should try a Xbox 360 or a PS3 for actual gaming. Just saying...
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Because the PS3 and Xbox fit great in your coat pocket for on-the-go.... (rolls eyes).
I've had pretty good luck with the MoDaCo rom. You get the advantages/stability of stock with everything under the hood modded, including the build.prop, market access, etc. It's ran everything I've thrown at it so far.

Thanks all for your inputs. I went to MoDaCo from CM7-Barebones as I wanted to try the stock feel. The stock Kindle is way way better for reading thanks to the various font size and typography features.
Even the games ran quite well on the MoDaCo and I was quite happy all these days as everything was working without a glitch.
However, when I wanted to play some gameloft games - I have purchased Modern Combat and Nova series, then poof... they don't appear on the market. I even changed the build.prop but no go. MoDaCo says they have the tweak that will show the Fire as Galaxy Tab on the market for more compatibility but even that didn't work.
So today I am back to CM7 and glad to see that the apps I want show up on market. Need to play around and see how this goes. Sad that I will be missing out on the reader experience though.

I am running CM7 with ravens kernel and play many of the same games you mentioned without issue. I had to download the modified build.prop but have not had any issues. Battery life is excellent and since ravens kernel overclocks performance is good.

try modaco custom rom with ravens kernel. It handled all the games I've thrown at it. I get like 2400-2500 quadrant scores from ravens kernel compared to 2000 stock kernel. So if you want the fastest stock experience I say go for that.

will25u said:
try modaco custom rom with ravens kernel. It handled all the games I've thrown at it. I get like 2400-2500 quadrant scores from ravens kernel compared to 2000 stock kernel. So if you want the fastest stock experience I say go for that.
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I'm on GR6 but think I'm using a stock kernel. Do you have a link to Raven's Kernel and some install instructions?
Also, what launcher do you use with MoDaCo ROM as I can't get ADW to run (immediately FCs).

Here's the link to the kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382999
I'm using the stock launcher but ive used go launcher and adw ex without any issues .
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I'm having issues flashing the kernel. What's steps do I need to go through to flash it. I keep getting the error that it can't locate the file or mount the system.
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