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i 've been used all the kernels from huanyu and michyprima,hastarin and mdeejay..and so many builds!i saw that all kernels still has a ts issue most in gaming experience
it would be great if the devs could work somehow on it more ..
also..i like very much to have a live wallpaper without issue on scroling pages..but always when a live wallpaper setting up screen has ts issue !i know its a known bug and must put a simple wallpaper so u can have better performance..!
So..
what u think?is there a way to fix the bugs for better gaming experience such as asphalt and nova etc..
and scrolling through pages with a live wallpaper can be smoother???
thanks for your time for reading this ..
i hope not to get flamed...i know devs has so much to work on kernels..!i just made a simple request for the people who have the same experience and they need the same fix as me
Or..is there a way to fix that by myself something that i didnt know it????
the ts freezes ****s gaming experience up, thats true.. and sad. lets have a bit more patience on this
but hey.. the live wallpapers are killing the performance of android.. doesnt matter on wich phone. some friends got desires, and all of them has the live wallpaper off. if they set it on, it laggs even more than on my hd2!!
and the same on my nexy! live wallpaper make it laggy >.<!
so..lets hope for a fix so we can play smoother gaming
about live wallpapers i didnt know that the ts issue also exist and in nexus one device and desire too...!so if it is like that..then i'll pass it
too bad because there are so nice live wallpapers wich can be costumizable in you likes and use it as wallpapers such as nexus revamped and u can use your own wallpapers and make the lines pass like the nexus one original
panoplanet live wallpapers is also nice which u use panoramic wallpapers and it looks soooo amazing..too bad screen lags with live wallpapers and drains much more faster the battery!
thanks...
You might want to try formatting your SD card to a 32K Cluster Size, I saw it recommended in these forums, tried it myself, and have been playing without issues since they did the TS Fix.
Ive been playing A LOT Pocket Legends (Multi-Touch MMORPG game ) and Ive had zero issues with it. Asphalt run awesome, but I must admit I unistalled it after trying Raging Thunder 2 and NFS: Shift, Glyder 2 works amazingly well too. No Accelerometer or TS fixes in either of those.
I always do a Format to 32K Cluster Size before trying a new ROM, the best one if used so far is MDJ 1.7. Trying right now the HD build
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You might want to try formatting your SD card to a 32K Cluster Size, I saw it recommended in these forums, tried it myself, and have been playing without issues since they did the TS Fix.
Ive been playing A LOT Pocket Legends (Multi-Touch MMORPG game ) and Ive had zero issues with it. Asphalt run awesome, but I must admit I unistalled it after trying Raging Thunder 2 and NFS: Shift, Glyder 2 works amazingly well too. No Accelerometer or TS fixes in either of those.
I always do a Format to 32K Cluster Size before trying a new ROM, the best one if used so far is MDJ 1.7. Trying right now the HD build
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nice, ty for the tipp, ill try this
i did that you told and is the same
the games you described such as pocket legends glyder etc runs pretty nice for me too..!also asphalt runs ok nice but only at the first stages then it gets laggy..wanna try some games my friends to see what kinda lag i am talkin about??
try playing Fast and Furius Andrenaline..Avatar HD..Toonwarz..Infernus 1!..N.O.V.A..Modern combat sandstorm...!all these games lags..gaming experience is not good with those games sometimes run well sometimes lag..and damn when it lags you lose or you are dead in game and game is over which is really annoying and you have to start all over again and especially when it lags in the same stage
i hope some day we can have smooth gaming experience such as ****y iphone
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i did that you told and is the same
the games you described such as pocket legends glyder etc runs pretty nice for me too..!also asphalt runs ok nice but only at the first stages then it gets laggy..wanna try some games my friends to see what kinda lag i am talkin about??
try playing Fast and Furius Andrenaline..Avatar HD..Toonwarz..Infernus 1!..N.O.V.A..Modern combat sandstorm...!all these games lags..gaming experience is not good with those games sometimes run well sometimes lag..and damn when it lags you lose or you are dead in game and game is over which is really annoying and you have to start all over again and especially when it lags in the same stage
i hope some day we can have smooth gaming experience such as ****y iphone
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Pocket Legends is probably the most demanding game of all of those, and it runs perfectly, even with LOTS of people on screen. The issue with Asphalt seems to be the GFXs engine. NFS Shift looks way better than Asphalt and it doesnt lag at all, and I played NOVA for about an hour without any screen lag, same for Toonwarz, so dunno
Formatting to a 32K cluster size helps sometimes since it tends to increase the read/write timings at the expense of smaller files occupying a bit more of space, but in the end it pays off imo.
Some TS issues have been found to be directly linked with SD speeds and high CPU loads, so you might wanna try a faster card if available just to be sure
I really dunno what else to suggest ya, Im currently playing more with my HD2 than my PSP (its actually collecting Dust since Android got installed lol)
I could suggest ya trying out this Build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
With that stock kernel and everything, pretty much the most stable Build I've ever used.
Hope it helps
U guys have cm builds ? I get it on all cm builds , but none of the sense builds (otherwise id have cm myself)
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Pocket Legends is probably the most demanding game of all of those, and it runs perfectly, even with LOTS of people on screen. The issue with Asphalt seems to be the GFXs engine. NFS Shift looks way better than Asphalt and it doesnt lag at all, and I played NOVA for about an hour without any screen lag, same for Toonwarz, so dunno
Formatting to a 32K cluster size helps sometimes since it tends to increase the read/write timings at the expense of smaller files occupying a bit more of space, but in the end it pays off imo.
Some TS issues have been found to be directly linked with SD speeds and high CPU loads, so you might wanna try a faster card if available just to be sure
I really dunno what else to suggest ya, Im currently playing more with my HD2 than my PSP (its actually collecting Dust since Android got installed lol)
I could suggest ya trying out this Build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
With that stock kernel and everything, pretty much the most stable Build I've ever used.
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thanks for help..i used this build for a week...but its the same for me!i use 8gb sandisk class 6 sdcard!for now i am using old mdjay evo WARM sense v1.1 which is the most stable build for me with hastarins 8.5.1 kernel because it gives me better battery..!well ..i think i will buy another sdcard probably class 4 and check out if it works the same for games..!otherwise i will buy an a cheap used iphone to have a second phone most for gaming experience..i dont like iphone either but really is awsome for gaming
HD2 is the best phone ever released..u can put so many builds and try whatever you need..
lets see....
Again thanks for helping me
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U guys have cm builds ? I get it on all cm builds , but none of the sense builds (otherwise id have cm myself)
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i used cm build and yes there is no way u can play games there i had the same issue like you...so rather having that i used to have sense build which is much more better for gaming experience!
dunno why is on cm builds so laggish..??
anyone if use a HD build can tell how is the gaming experience rather the simpe sense builds???i wanna try sense HD build but dunno if its faster or not than simple old sense!!!
a little off topic
i just orderes an iphone 3g from ebay for 150 dollars
@edangel
The iPhone 3G (or even the 3GS) couldn't tap the HD2.
Hello all, first post here after reading for quite some time
I researched alot and decided to buy this phone because I concluded it was the best, performance, quality, resolution, etc
I have the phone for a week now and I don't feel happy with it, overall I see the phone is not really smooth, it frequently freezes for like 2 seconds when opening or closing an application, I was quite happy until before I installed some apps, like modern combat 3 and aftermath xhd, I can't install those via market because it says it's not compatible with my device, so I tried them out because I was too curious to see its performance, and I'm very disappointed...
modern combat 3 is unplayable, the menu is laggy, the game feels like its constantly loading something, it's choppy, I played only half of the first level because I couldn't go on anymore. Aftermath XHD was laggy at first, but now I'm at the sniper level and I had to give up, it's unplayable, when a shot is fired it lags so much it stops for like 3 seconds. I read all over the internet that those games run smooth on defys, so what's the problem here?
I'm at stock rom and kernel (N7000UBKK1, 2.6.35.8-N7000UBKK3, GINGERBREAD.UBKK3), I'm not really into flashing, but after reading over the games thread people saying it's smooth and working fine I think it's my only hope, if it doesn't fix it I guess my hardware would be faulty then.
I'm starting to think that the internal disk is the bottleneck, and I'm not sure if updating can turn a non-playable game smooth, so has any of you guys ever experienced this or been through this, can give some advice or based on your experience point out if it is possible to solve this problem?
thanks in advance
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it's not compatible with my device
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I hope this answered your question.
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Hey, after using the Iphone 3gs since its release I must say Im impressed with both Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note BUT the random freezez and input lag that appears every now and then is just frekking annoying. Even with custom romz and different kernels this happens atleast 10 times everyday. As a techie guy I like the freedom that android gives me compared to the endless jailbreaking and ego behaviour by apple. However I'd say android devices must with the current hardware fix this type of problems since in the end user experience is the most important and If I spend 600 euros on a phone I'm sad to say that touchwise it still lacks a lot but after playing with it now for two weeks I have to say that I've gotten used to it. Samsung should stop pushing so many devices and focus on making the android software more stable, better touch input and reduce the frekking lag, dual core or not.
This forum is the best I've found and has everything a phablet nerd needs
Samsung Galaxy S2 - Stock Rom 2.3.5 with Launcher Pro (faster than the note with standard settings!!!!)
Samsung Galaxy Note - RocketRom V9 KKA 2.3.6 Launher Pro, CPu 1,6 mhz (still!! laggs sometimes)
Yeah, the Note is not polished enough yet. But don't lose faith - it will get better once we get ICS, shouldn't be that long. Right now it's up to you - you can improve it noticeably by flashing, tweaking and overclocking. I did that and I don't look back it ain't perfect but good enough for me.
KL3 soft + Abyssnote 2.5 kernel + OC (1650) + either lulzactive governor and vr scheduler (very responsive OS) or ondemandx gevernor and sio scheduler (smoother 3D games). These are settings that do the trick for me.
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It's also not compatible with everyone else's device, and people are reporting the game runs fine, how so?
If your game data is in your external SD Card, that may well be the problem
Anyhow, the Note is a niche device with a flavor of early adopting, since it's the first phone with this big a screen (the streak was a tablet, if I'm not mistaken?) and because it's one of the three first with a HD resolution.
What does that mean? That many things that work flawlessly on lesser devices won't work here simply by lack of dev support. One example? The gameloft games, my favorites. None of them are officially supported, and I haven't managed to make them work unofficially.
One thing is for sure: Android required flashing, period. The Defy is crap without any flashing, so is the Atrix, and now the Note is. At the very least, put on the CWM recovery, which takes about 60 seconds of your time, and try the custom Kernel that is swimming lonely down in dev section that allows you an OC of 1.7ghz. See if that helps with the lagging.
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It's also not compatible with everyone else's device, and people are reporting the game runs fine, how so?
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Don't worry with this kind of responses, you'll get them here sometimes. This is XDA, forum 100% dedicated to tinkering with phones so who cares what's compatibile with what. Make it work and enjoy.
This game is about 1.4GB if it has been installed on your internal memory you will definitely run out and and your phone will struggle,go to Settings/Applications/Manage Applications/Remove To SD card.
Just another boring witch hunt thread (yawn).
thanks a lot for the replies guys, you guys really helped a lot, I'm a lot more confident now and anxious to start flashing!
I got one question before starting the flashing process, is the JIG dongle for the S2 compatible with the note? I can't find the note JIG anywhere around here
I thought mw3 didn't work with the newest gingerbread yet.
Like the above poster said, try kl3. Little lag I had disappeared.
GALAXY NOTE
Hi all,
for the last couple of days i've been thinking about giving CM7 a try. i've only ever used stock based roms so far and just wanted to hear peoples thoughts on the comparisons between CM7 and stock SE roms and what sort of experiences people have had with CM7.
many thanks
tom
basically both are ok but if you want the most gamepad compatibility stick with the stock SE firmware as CM7 tends to have more issues
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Hi all,
for the last couple of days i've been thinking about giving CM7 a try. i've only ever used stock based roms so far and just wanted to hear peoples thoughts on the comparisons between CM7 and stock SE roms and what sort of experiences people have had with CM7.
many thanks
tom
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CM7 basically removes the playstation from your playstation phone, i've tried CM7 a few times, but always gone back to stock.
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I really like cm7 but not being able to play ea games or gameloft games with touchpads on cm7 was a deal breaker for me.
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I really like cm7 but not being able to play ea games or gameloft games with touchpads on cm7 was a deal breaker for me.
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I don't know what your talking about. I can play EA and Gameloft games on CM7 just fine. Feels no different than stock.
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marwen817 said:
汉语可以留言不 。；。。。
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Reported!
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AndroHero said:
CM7 basically removes the playstation from your playstation phone, i've tried CM7 a few times, but always gone back to stock.
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So would you reckon that its not worth putting on given that i'll lose the features of the phone that were the main reason for me getting it in the first place mate?
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So would you reckon that its not worth putting on given that i'll lose the features of the phone that were the main reason for me getting it in the first place mate?
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Yeah thats the conclution i came too, on the other hand, if you don't game that much, CM7 is super fast and has some great features!
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It's not that dramatic, you can keep playing emulators and many current games, without any issue. It's a bummer for Gameloft and EA games though.
i like stock more because touchpads are not fully working on cm7
thanks everyone, been reading thru some of the posts on the cm7 thread and people seem to have random glitches that, although they can also happen on stock, have swayed me towards sticking with stock firmwares. add to that the possibility that the touchpads will be iffy at best. again, thanks to everyone who took the time to reply and offer their views on the subject
tom
p.s. the leaked ics rom had nothing to do with what i decided on. honest guv
Interesting thread.
I was going to switch over to a custom rom but this has kind of put me off.
Is this just for CM7? (regarding controls)
I have this phone only because of the controls, but feel like I'm not getting the best out of it with the stock rom. What rom should I be looking at if any?
Thanks!
I got fed up with the amount of bloatware and things I never used running in the background, so I gave the FreeXperia PROJECT rom a go, so far I'm loving it.
The only issue is the touchpads BUT there are games that have that driver built in (Age of Zombies, THE DEAD: Chapter One), apart from GTA3 I've yet to find a game I like that uses them (Dead Space and Fifa not my cup of tea).
I mainly use FPse (touchpads not needed) and have truly fallen in love with my Play.
Each to there own though
I just got CM7 FXP054 fully working, and overclocked to 1.6GHz, on my r800x last night. The touchpads don't work on GTA III, but do work every other game I play. I'm loving it and I'm getting suprisingly great battery life. I still wish r800x users had more roms and kernels to choose from.
the touch pads in gta3, the left one changes the radio station and the right one moves your aiming when your zoomed in the sniper rifle, so they are pretty useless,would be nice if you could move the camera or look behind,maybe steer.
ive been thinking about flashing since i want to overclock to improve gta3 and just have a basic functions, never tried CM before, does doom kernel have working touchpads?
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the touch pads in gta3, the left one changes the radio station and the right one moves your aiming when your zoomed in the sniper rifle, so they are pretty useless,would be nice if you could move the camera or look behind,maybe steer.
ive been thinking about flashing since i want to overclock to improve gta3 and just have a basic functions, never tried CM before, does doom kernel have working touchpads?
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I tried GTA 3 while on CM7 and it didn't even recognise when the control pad was slid out thus forcing you to use on screen controls, may have been fixed in recent builds though, really hope that touchpads get fixed asap, as soon as they do, CM7 is my daily driver forever!
This is with FXP054
There are things about CM7 that I love: the non-sony themes throughout, customisation options built into the ROM, custom kernel (could NOT get custom kernel working on my stock ROM) AND MY BELOVED CRT LOCK ANIMATION
There were three issues for me though that stop me from using CM7:
1. Battery life is atrocious! I can actually see the battery percentage dropping during normal use, nothing out of the ordinary running and it just drains, from 15 minutes of facebook, 10 minutes of twitter, 1 hour of watching shows with Moboplayer the battery had 20% left from a full charge 4 hours ago. With stock ROM the battery will be about 65% after all that (daily routine)
2. Sound output just sucks. I plug the phone into my car stereo for my drive to/from work, no matter how much I play with the equaliser and all of the sound settings audio playback sounds bad. The bass is distorted and it's a lot quieter than stock ROM. I experienced this same sound output phenomenon with a different handset running CM7 so I think it's a CM issue
3. Automatic screen brightness doesn't seem to work at all
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This is with FXP054
There are things about CM7 that I love: the non-sony themes throughout, customisation options built into the ROM, custom kernel (could NOT get custom kernel working on my stock ROM) AND MY BELOVED CRT LOCK ANIMATION
There were three issues for me though that stop me from using CM7:
1. Battery life is atrocious! I can actually see the battery percentage dropping during normal use, nothing out of the ordinary running and it just drains, from 15 minutes of facebook, 10 minutes of twitter, 1 hour of watching shows with Moboplayer the battery had 20% left from a full charge 4 hours ago. With stock ROM the battery will be about 65% after all that (daily routine)
2. Sound output just sucks. I plug the phone into my car stereo for my drive to/from work, no matter how much I play with the equaliser and all of the sound settings audio playback sounds bad. The bass is distorted and it's a lot quieter than stock ROM. I experienced this same sound output phenomenon with a different handset running CM7 so I think it's a CM issue
3. Automatic screen brightness doesn't seem to work at all
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The only problem of these that I'm experiencing is the last one. The auto-brightness is all over the place. My battery life is a little bit less but not enough to bother me, and I'm guessing that's from my overclock.
I started using CyanogenMod7 in Febuary last year. When I got my Play, I messed around with Stock ROM, and while it was slick, bloatware free and fast, and I was impressed, it lacked CM's little tweaks I had to have. The dodgy touchpad support is a nuiscance, but a minor one.
Leraeniesh said:
I don't know what your talking about. I can play EA and Gameloft games on CM7 just fine. Feels no different than stock.
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Noone besides you is able to. I gave the ROM you claim works with these games a try, and it didn't work at all for me.
I choose CM7 over stock since I don't play any games that are broken on CM. Would be nice if GTAIII worked, but it doesn't work well with stock, so I can give up that ghost until Rockstar better supports our device.
I've a rooted KF with CM7 barebones and I've bought this device primarily for gaming, so I'm loving this ROM.
However, I do want to use other apps such as XDA forum app and browsing/reading apps. But some of these apps don't seem to be stable on CM. The irony especially is that the XDA app keeps crashing whenever I log in. So I can only browse the forum as a guest from my KF.
Now are there any gamers out there who are able to play games smoothly on a stock or stock rooted KF? I think especially games like Frontline Commando or Modern Combat 3 are heavy on the resources and if they play well on the Stock KF, then I should be happy with it.
Any inputs? Are there ones that really prefer the Stock ROM over CM7 for reasons other than stability - for reasons such as performance for instance?
Also, if I have a rooted stock KF and the anroid market, then are all the apps/games on the Market visible and installable? I am asking this since the CM7 spoofs Galaxy Tab to ensure compatibility.
I use MIUI 2.1.20 to play NOVA, Modern Combat, Shadow Gun, etc... I haven't found a single app that doesn't work (I've been using it for 6 days). Hope that helped! Feel free to send me a message if you wanna know more.
I'm running rooted stock and am able to play shadowgun without a hitch.
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I use MIUI 2.1.20 to play NOVA, Modern Combat, Shadow Gun, etc... I haven't found a single app that doesn't work (I've been using it for 6 days). Hope that helped! Feel free to send me a message if you wanna know more.
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Have you tried GTA3 and Sonic CD?
well... xda isnt stable on stock either. on rooted, without modifying build.prop, it wont show 75% of the games you mentioned. cm7 is definetly a better option.
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Have you tried GTA3 and Sonic CD?
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I've tried GTA III but not sonic CD
Just to throw in my two cents... while I do like the customizations that are possible with CM7 and ICS I find that modified stock is more stable and, for my usage, better battery life.
You should try a Xbox 360 or a PS3 for actual gaming. Just saying...
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You should try a Xbox 360 or a PS3 for actual gaming. Just saying...
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Because the PS3 and Xbox fit great in your coat pocket for on-the-go.... (rolls eyes).
I've had pretty good luck with the MoDaCo rom. You get the advantages/stability of stock with everything under the hood modded, including the build.prop, market access, etc. It's ran everything I've thrown at it so far.
Thanks all for your inputs. I went to MoDaCo from CM7-Barebones as I wanted to try the stock feel. The stock Kindle is way way better for reading thanks to the various font size and typography features.
Even the games ran quite well on the MoDaCo and I was quite happy all these days as everything was working without a glitch.
However, when I wanted to play some gameloft games - I have purchased Modern Combat and Nova series, then poof... they don't appear on the market. I even changed the build.prop but no go. MoDaCo says they have the tweak that will show the Fire as Galaxy Tab on the market for more compatibility but even that didn't work.
So today I am back to CM7 and glad to see that the apps I want show up on market. Need to play around and see how this goes. Sad that I will be missing out on the reader experience though.
I am running CM7 with ravens kernel and play many of the same games you mentioned without issue. I had to download the modified build.prop but have not had any issues. Battery life is excellent and since ravens kernel overclocks performance is good.
try modaco custom rom with ravens kernel. It handled all the games I've thrown at it. I get like 2400-2500 quadrant scores from ravens kernel compared to 2000 stock kernel. So if you want the fastest stock experience I say go for that.
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try modaco custom rom with ravens kernel. It handled all the games I've thrown at it. I get like 2400-2500 quadrant scores from ravens kernel compared to 2000 stock kernel. So if you want the fastest stock experience I say go for that.
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I'm on GR6 but think I'm using a stock kernel. Do you have a link to Raven's Kernel and some install instructions?
Also, what launcher do you use with MoDaCo ROM as I can't get ADW to run (immediately FCs).
Here's the link to the kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382999
I'm using the stock launcher but ive used go launcher and adw ex without any issues .
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I'm having issues flashing the kernel. What's steps do I need to go through to flash it. I keep getting the error that it can't locate the file or mount the system.
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Hi guys,
All this bootloader stuff is confusing me coming from an S2..
So far i have,
1. Installed custom bootloader and rooted using After OTA
2. Dont remember how, but installed Twrp 2.2
3. Installed GodMachine 81kernal using the goo manager app.
I have not used the tablet much, but have bought it recently. It came with HC and got updated to 4.0.3 as soon as I checked for an update.
The tablet was fine, had no issues and was running smoothly. Maybe it was the Amoled effect or a higher ppi in the phone, i felt the animations were a tiny bit juddery while entering the menu for the first time.
Thought it was maybe due to lack speed, hence did all of the above.. oc.ed to 1.5 ghz
Even after the OC, the UI felt the same, used antutu as a benchmark. As soon as i installd the mods, tablet became very laggy and choppy, hence deleted the Z-ram file.
On stock ~ 5000 and above.
After mods - no oc - 4800~4900. Sometimes the scores go as low as 1200.
Oc - 6800~7000, as earler scores some times go as low as 1100-1300.
Also.some times the tablet becomes laggy soon after starting and i have newly noticed that everything on the Sd card is getting duplicated, i.e another copy is being created with the same file names and same size files, but diff icons.
Since the all the above did not yeild any usable results for me - I think the tablet and the stock ICS are fine, the UI thing is an android trait (project butter in Jelly bean eliminates the UI thing i am talkibg abt)
Tested an s3 on Ics, same UI thing that i felt, but not that noticable due to screen type and size
Hence, i feel reveting everything back to stock would be a gud idea for me as i just play nomal games and watch movies, even though i like the idea of 1.5 ghz X 2 when wanted for benchies.
So ti get back to the stock 4.0.3, which file should i use? there are soo many of them.
1. Which one.s the latest one? Pre rooted, deodexed and zip alligned also would be helpful.
2.How do i install CWM? Cause when on stock, i tried getting into the recovery, an android image showed up nothing happened. I prefer to have CWM over others cause it is familiar.
3. What advanteges will an unlocked bootloader give over a locked one for skme one who prefers a stock rom? Is it manditory for rooting?
4. Any clues about the Sd card issue? also the galary is gettin my google images up, the sync is off, but j cannot turn iff the jndividual syncs.
5. What package do u suggest for some one like me - i do not want the tablet to freeze and just want a smooth Stock like experience along with any benifits if any (but not at the expense of the battery)
Thankx in advance guys.
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Update -
Disabled Acer Meida, 3D photo viewer and disbled the photo syncing. Tablet is gud and fluidic now.
But while watching youtube @ 720p using Dolphin browser, the video sometime freezes and comes back again. Audio is fine. any ideas why this might be happening ?
I also found this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839313
I guess I can use it to make every thing stock if I feel like. Stock - bootloader, Unroot, Stock kernel & Stock 3.1 HC .Then OTA to ICS.
boxy44 said:
Hi guys,
All this bootloader stuff is confusing me coming from an S2..
So far i have,
1. Installed custom bootloader and rooted using After OTA
2. Dont remember how, but installed Twrp 2.2
3. Installed GodMachine 81kernal using the goo manager app.
I have not used the tablet much, but have bought it recently. It came with HC and got updated to 4.0.3 as soon as I checked for an update.
The tablet was fine, had no issues and was running smoothly. Maybe it was the Amoled effect or a higher ppi in the phone, i felt the animations were a tiny bit juddery while entering the menu for the first time.
Thought it was maybe due to lack speed, hence did all of the above.. oc.ed to 1.5 ghz
Even after the OC, the UI felt the same, used antutu as a benchmark. As soon as i installd the mods, tablet became very laggy and choppy, hence deleted the Z-ram file.
On stock ~ 5000 and above.
After mods - no oc - 4800~4900. Sometimes the scores go as low as 1200.
Oc - 6800~7000, as earler scores some times go as low as 1100-1300.
Also.some times the tablet becomes laggy soon after starting and i have newly noticed that everything on the Sd card is getting duplicated, i.e another copy is being created with the same file names and same size files, but diff icons.
Since the all the above did not yeild any usable results for me - I think the tablet and the stock ICS are fine, the UI thing is an android trait (project butter in Jelly bean eliminates the UI thing i am talkibg abt)
Tested an s3 on Ics, same UI thing that i felt, but not that noticable due to screen type and size
Hence, i feel reveting everything back to stock would be a gud idea for me as i just play nomal games and watch movies, even though i like the idea of 1.5 ghz X 2 when wanted for benchies.
So ti get back to the stock 4.0.3, which file should i use? there are soo many of them.
1. Which one.s the latest one? Pre rooted, deodexed and zip alligned also would be helpful.
2.How do i install CWM? Cause when on stock, i tried getting into the recovery, an android image showed up nothing happened. I prefer to have CWM over others cause it is familiar.
3. What advanteges will an unlocked bootloader give over a locked one for skme one who prefers a stock rom? Is it manditory for rooting?
4. Any clues about the Sd card issue? also the galary is gettin my google images up, the sync is off, but j cannot turn iff the jndividual syncs.
5. What package do u suggest for some one like me - i do not want the tablet to freeze and just want a smooth Stock like experience along with any benifits if any (but not at the expense of the battery)
Thankx in advance guys.
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Update -
Disabled Acer Meida, 3D photo viewer and disbled the photo syncing. Tablet is gud and fluidic now.
But while watching youtube @ 720p using Dolphin browser, the video sometime freezes and comes back again. Audio is fine. any ideas why this might be happening ?
I also found this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839313
I guess I can use it to make every thing stock if I feel like. Stock - bootloader, Unroot, Stock kernel & Stock 3.1 HC .Then OTA to ICS.
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Thats also whats happenning to me I own an s2 and this bootloader is killing me but not only that, the support here on this section is pretty low, Im seeing a lot of ppl with unanswered questions unlike my beloved s2 section here on xda, so I might not root my tab after all due to the slow and maybe none supported helpers here to help you.
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boxy44 said:
Hi guys,
All this bootloader stuff is confusing me coming from an S2..
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1. Which one.s the latest one? Pre rooted, deodexed and zip alligned also would be helpful.
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civato's thread official acer stock roms OR
blackthund3rs rom list
ezterry too i think has stock plus the oc kernel
2.How do i install CWM? Cause when on stock, i tried getting into the recovery, an android image showed up nothing happened. I prefer to have CWM over others cause it is familiar.
3. What advanteges will an unlocked bootloader give over a locked one for skme one who prefers a stock rom? Is it manditory for rooting?
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flashing the unpatched bootloader will also flash cwm as well.
benefits include being able to flash cwm!!
Dual boot linux
fastboot mode
4. Any clues about the Sd card issue? also the galary is gettin my google images up, the sync is off, but j cannot turn iff the jndividual syncs.
5. What package do u suggest for some one like me - i do not want the tablet to freeze and just want a smooth Stock like experience along with any benifits if any (but not at the expense of the battery)
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will leave this for others more knowledgable about these things
I also found this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839313
I guess I can use it to make every thing stock if I feel like. Stock - bootloader, Unroot, Stock kernel & Stock 3.1 HC .Then OTA to ICS.
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Yes you can go about it this way if u like...good way to check your cpuid while back on HC...Do the wipes as suggested!!!
Rasmux said:
, the support here on this section is pretty low, Im seeing a lot of ppl with unanswered questions unlike my beloved s2 section here on xda, so I might not root my tab after all due to the slow and maybe none supported helpers here to help you.
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And this attitude is the reason why some people don't wish to help. You have to understand;
1. Everything here is free, and nobody places any pressure to use it.
2. Most issues that users have, concerning bootloaders and CWM, have already been answered multiple times. (search button)
3. People have School, job and family, and devote what little free time to help the others. If a person doesn't respond to a question, it's usually because;
a. They don't know the answer.
b. The problem is a repetitive one already answered (search button)
c. They just don't have the time.
To compare the 500 forum to the S2, is comparing apples to oranges. GS2 users outnumber 500 users by probably >100-1, so it makes sense there are more users in that forum.
A lot of people put a lot of behind the scenes work getting mods, kernels, bootloaders, apps, etc working for the 500/501. Not to mention they do a lot of PM support that you just don't see.
So give some folks a break. Most questions here get answered.
MD
boxy44 said:
The tablet was fine, had no issues and was running smoothly. Maybe it was the Amoled effect or a higher ppi in the phone, i felt the animations were a tiny bit juddery while entering the menu for the first time.
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This is normal behavior. Use of a third party launcher might clear this.
boxy44 said:
Thought it was maybe due to lack speed, hence did all of the above.. oc.ed to 1.5 ghz
Even after the OC, the UI felt the same, used antutu as a benchmark. As soon as i installd the mods, tablet became very laggy and choppy, hence deleted the Z-ram file.
On stock ~ 5000 and above.
After mods - no oc - 4800~4900. Sometimes the scores go as low as 1200.
Oc - 6800~7000, as earler scores some times go as low as 1100-1300.
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You can OC to 3ghz and the UI will always feel the same. OC has no effect on the UI, but only on games and some graphic intensive apps. You seem to misunderstand what OC does. The large benefit, is UV and some of the newer governors like lultzactive and savagedzen. These are designed to save battery without a performance loss. Also, depending on governor, benchmarks can actually decrease the more you run them. And benchmarks, are never to be trusted.
boxy44 said:
Also.some times the tablet becomes laggy soon after starting and i have newly noticed that everything on the Sd card is getting duplicated, i.e another copy is being created with the same file names and same size files, but diff icons.
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This is normal as the android system is obviously doing something it couldn't do when it was sleeping or turned off. The ghost icons are pretty normal, as I have them also. You can see which ones are the real files. No explanation for it, but I'm used to it. This is just how "windows" sees things. I would guess it's kernel/bootloader related, but if tht's the worse that happens, I can live with it.
boxy44 said:
Hence, i feel reveting everything back to stock would be a gud idea for me as i just play nomal games and watch movies, even though i like the idea of 1.5 ghz X 2 when wanted for benchies.
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If you only want benchmarks, and aren't interested in gaming or battery life, why bother OC? The primary reason to OC/UV is to save battery and have better GPU performance.
boxy44 said:
Disabled Acer Meida, 3D photo viewer and disbled the photo syncing. Tablet is gud and fluidic now.
But while watching youtube @ 720p using Dolphin browser, the video sometime freezes and comes back again. Audio is fine. any ideas why this might be happening ?.
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Disabling those, and others, is always a good start. Probably explains a lot of your problems. As with Dolphin and Youtube, good luck. Not much better browser, although Dolphin has a habit of just closing out.
MD
Thanx
Moscow Desire said:
This is normal behavior. Use of a third party launcher might clear this.
You can OC to 3ghz and the UI will always feel the same. OC has no effect on the UI, but only on games and some graphic intensive apps. You seem to misunderstand what OC does. The large benefit, is UV and some of the newer governors like lultzactive and savagedzen. These are designed to save battery without a performance loss. Also, depending on governor, benchmarks can actually decrease the more you run them. And benchmarks, are never to be trusted.
This is normal as the android system is obviously doing something it couldn't do when it was sleeping or turned off. The ghost icons are pretty normal, as I have them also. You can see which ones are the real files. No explanation for it, but I'm used to it. This is just how "windows" sees things. I would guess it's kernel/bootloader related, but if tht's the worse that happens, I can live with it.
If you only want benchmarks, and aren't interested in gaming or battery life, why bother OC? The primary reason to OC/UV is to save battery and have better GPU performance.
Disabling those, and others, is always a good start. Probably explains a lot of your problems. As with Dolphin and Youtube, good luck. Not much better browser, although Dolphin has a habit of just closing out.
MD
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Thankx for the help man...
I did not have the chance to really spend quality time with the tablet till now, leave alone tweaking it...
I know that OC is not the key and Jelly bean is - but no harm in trying
Got a chance to test two Asus Terga 3 Tablets, both factory reset, one updated to JB & one on ICS.
Did the UI thing side to side and - woila !!! Project butter Shines )
I will post my developments in this thread, cause in a few days i will finish my engagements and will become free.
boxy44 said:
Thankx for the help man...
I did not have the chance to really spend quality time with the tablet till now, leave alone tweaking it...
I know that OC is not the key and Jelly bean is - but no harm in trying
Got a chance to test two Asus Terga 3 Tablets, both factory reset, one updated to JB & one on ICS.
Did the UI thing side to side and - woila !!! Project butter Shines )
I will post my developments in this thread, cause in a few days i will finish my engagements and will become free.
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Naw, it's ok Mate.
Everybody thinks that OC is the way to go. But really, it only benefits games, some films, and battery (UV). The 50x series is pretty good about battery once you learn battery management with the help of a good UV kernel. (but hey, I like benchmarks also )
As with the momentary "stutter" when first going into the apps drawer, I can say this, get a third party launcher. Or, do some V6 Supercharge.
Also, as with my 701, under ICS 4.0.4 I had the same stutter. The JB update fixed it.
Rock On Dude!
MD
Moscow Desire said:
And this attitude is the reason why some people don't wish to help. You have to understand;
1. Everything here is free, and nobody places any pressure to use it.
2. Most issues that users have, concerning bootloaders and CWM, have already been answered multiple times. (search button)
3. People have School, job and family, and devote what little free time to help the others. If a person doesn't respond to a question, it's usually because;
a. They don't know the answer.
b. The problem is a repetitive one already answered (search button)
c. They just don't have the time.
To compare the 500 forum to the S2, is comparing apples to oranges. GS2 users outnumber 500 users by probably >100-1, so it makes sense there are more users in that forum.
A lot of people put a lot of behind the scenes work getting mods, kernels, bootloaders, apps, etc working for the 500/501. Not to mention they do a lot of PM support that you just don't see.
So give some folks a break. Most questions here get answered.
MD
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My apologies for my rude reply, I suppose you are right, I didnt mean to upset you nor offend you, If I did Im sorry.
On other topic I finally flash my tab, and it was way easier than my s2 when i did it, everything was 1 click installation and Afterota helped a lot, thank you, ill be around.
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Guys,
Most of my UI thingies solved !!!!
Just installed the Nova launcher, meddled with the settings and UI is now as smooth as silk..
I noticed that every time i start up the tablet, every thing is laggy- even the audio.pop's
I found the reason for this- the governer, as soon as i change it to anything else, every thing becomes smooth...
If the interactive governer is set after changing it initially, it still remains smooth... one can just select anyother governer (lulzactive) and use set on boot option in cpu master it anyone else has the same problem..
I went for a clean up and messed it a bit
First installed a stock 3.1 from the thread mentioned in the earlier post... but turns out a non WW package does not update OTA if outside the Us (Australia), by this time messes the recovery, hence ended up installing cwm all over again ( thanks to Moscow Desires thread+latest frimware file ) and installed the latest stock 4.0.3 + apex launcher..