My girlfriend and I both have Nexus S 4G's so I decided to update mine and leave hers at 2.3.4 until I ran some tests. Here is what I concluded after about an hour of testing at home:
Signal strength was improved by around 10db
3G download speeds were 60% faster
3G upload speeds were 40% faster
It's important to note that the Speedtest.net app does not work properly on the Nexus S 4G. To get accurate results, you should use the Speakeasy Speed Test through your phone's web browser, or, tether your computer to your phone and run any speed test from your computer.
I haven't had a chance to test 4G but I am anticipating a big improvement.
Marco
PS. Sorry for the crappy photos taken on my old Evo 4G
It's impossible to rate 3G speed performance increases based off a radio update accurately. Sprints 3G network is such a pile of crap you could get 1mb a second one minute
and this garbage the next.
I tested it a few times over an hour period and got the same results. Beyond that I don't have the time to waste running further tests.
Sorry to hear you get crappy speeds.
did you do any testing on wifi signal strength?
I was getting 2.6 mbps dl at home before update. 60% of that would be crazy. Im on miui atm and idk if im going to update if it blocks tether.
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I didn't test Wifi and unfortunately I just updated her phone to 2.3.5!
Most importantly, how is the signal acquisition? One severe problem I faced is that signal is extremely patchy in areas that should not be patchy at all
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i know it stuffed all sorts of baby unicorns into 4g speeds, previously id average 1.4 down and up.. now i get 2.6 down and 1.7 up
I installed the update via this forum and I have zero signal bars and my airave is 20 feet away if that. My wifi signal indicator jumps around from weak to strong but is mainly weak. I don't know what the deal is, I'm not trying to scare anyone. Its just annoying me.
Is there anyway I can remove this update? I've never done any kind of rooting on my nexus s 4G
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I installed the update via this forum and I have zero signal bars and my airave is 20 feet away if that. My wifi signal indicator jumps around from weak to strong but is mainly weak. I don't know what the deal is, I'm not trying to scare anyone. Its just annoying me.
Is there anyway I can remove this update? I've never done any kind of rooting on my nexus s 4G
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OK so I did some playing around with my phone. It seems like everytime I start to make a call I immediately get 2 or 3 bars. Kinda strange.
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krisnicaj said:
OK so I did some playing around with my phone. It seems like everytime I start to make a call I immediately get 2 or 3 bars. Kinda strange.
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Do you have the older airave that is only 1x data? If so, it's displaying the 3G bars when not using 1x (either sms or call). You'll never miss a call due to signal if that's the case. It used to be that way for me when I had the older unit (just got the newer 3G airave, and now it's full bars all of the time).
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Do you have the older airave that is only 1x data? If so, it's displaying the 3G bars when not using 1x (either sms or call). You'll never miss a call due to signal if that's the case. It used to be that way for me when I had the older unit (just got the newer 3G airave, and now it's full bars all of the time).
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Yea I do, thanks
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3G signal has become worse for me on the new Radio. I'm now stuck on 1X in my home when I used to be decent 3G.
This sucks.
I'm running rooted 2.3.5 with Matrix 4.0 kernel.
Before update:
WIFI was 4.9 down 4.3 up
4G was 3.6 down 1.5 up
3G was 325 kps down 100 up
After Update:
WIFI is 7.2 down 1.5 up
4G is 4.5 down 1.5 up
3G is 550kps down 100 up
I ran each test a few times.
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My 3G speeds before were around 100kbps before the update, and around that now. Sprint is the worst carrier in the whole damn planet. I just check my Evo and it has around 300kbps tops... pathetic. Sprint if you are reading this, you ****ing SUCK
I just got 2.16 megs on my airwave. I used the speakeasy test. Before I could hardly get .8 mbps.
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It's important to note that the Speedtest.net app does not work properly on the Nexus S 4G. To get accurate results, you should use the Speakeasy Speed Test through your phone's web browser, or, tether your computer to your phone and run any speed test from your computer.
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Why is that the case?
2.3.4
3G 300kbps-1000kbps depending on location
4G max 5.5Mbps
Wifi max 6Mbps
2.3.5
3G 500kbps-1200kbps depending on location
4G max 7.5Mbps (!!!)
Wifi max 8Mbps
It seems like to me that one person says it helps and then the next says it sucks so I think I'm just going to leave well enough for now because i have mine on Boost and really don't feel like setting up data and mms again...wouldn't be hard but from the looks of things it really doesn't look like its worth it.
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Why is that the case?
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They are both built by ookla labs i'm with you on this one, if everyone uses speedtest app its clearly going to show any changes.
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I've even tryed the EVRC thing
Mine is very spotty. Sometimes I get 1.5mbps and other times (like right now), it looks like this:
Wifi is ok, but its results are slower in the browser vs. the actual Speedtest app:
Mine is also as horrible here in Phoenix.
I've been happy with my service in Jacksonville. Usually in the range of 1.3 - 1.5 mbps, upwards of 2 mbps
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I've been happy with my service in Jacksonville. Usually in the range of 1.3 - 1.5 mbps, upwards of 2 mbps
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Are you rooted? Just curious.
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Are you rooted? Just curious.
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dont worry you are not alone, my 3g sometimes fast and sometimes slow....but on average, i got about 800-1200kbps.
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dont worry you are not alone, my 3g sometimes fast and sometimes slow....but on average, i got about 800-1200kbps.
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Ditto. Either way though, my 3G connection is still faster than my home's DSL.
Then again, what would you expect from AT&T?
If you're using the SpeedTest app to check speeds, just be aware that it is inaccurate as all get out.
Same,
I just switched from ATT(St. Louis) My ATT 3g speeds are similar to my 4g Sprint speeds at times
3g on ATT in a rural area tested from 1.2-2.3mpbs, sprint 4g has topped out at 2.0mpbs downtown.
Very sad.
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If you're using the SpeedTest app to check speeds, just be aware that it is inaccurate as all get out.
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What do you recommend? DSL reports?
EDIT:
Here's the results
4g
Speedtest - 1.56
DSL Reports Flash - 3.8
3g
Speedtest - 155
DSL Reports Flash - 556
You may have something there sir
Seems for this app it either doesn't throttle or is using **** servers.
Well i dunno what to blame. I do live in a completly brick house. All though i can go to walmart and have 5-6 bars but go back to my house 5 blocks away with a good signal all the way untill i walk up my steps (garage appt) and into my door and drop to 0 to at best 4 bars. Its almost like my house is made out of led or something because it seems to block out any kind of signal, even the "new" digital tv signals. But even when i do have a full signal the best i get is 100kb/s
what is really stupid for me is that my upload speed over 3g is oftentimes faster than the download speed with full bars.
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what is really stupid for me is that my upload speed over 3g is oftentimes faster than the download speed with full bars.
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That happens when you use the speed test app. It won't be the case with anything else.
I posted this in the PRI bounty thread but don't want it to get lost and I'm curious what other people's results will be with it.
I noticed something interesting today that may be an Evo bug... So I turned 4G on when I was in traffic on 6th Avenue to run some speed tests... got 8megs, no surprise there... but I left it on... later I was in Denver waiting for my group therapy class and was downloading and browsing and noticed it was flying. Did a speed test and I was getting 1.7-2.1Mbps consistently.
I shut off 4G and went to test later and was back to 500-900 speeds. Turned 4G back on and was immediately back to the 1.7-2.1Mbps levels.
I noticed when I turned on 4G that the 3G data arrows started moving like crazy each time, then stopped.
Can someone test this for me? To do this test you need to be on a tower that you KNOW can handle the faster speeds. I tried it all over the place today and even at home where I can't usually pass 300, I got 600. Turned off 4G and back down to 300. Turned it back on, back up to 5-600. Hit 900 at one point.
Just did a test in my room with 2 bars and got 750... turned off 4G and shut the phone on, turned it back on and got 500 consistently. Turned 4G back on and got 876, 1114, 1140, 865, and 974.
Maybe the PRI update fixed the link between 4G being turned off and slow 3G speeds? Try it and post your results...
Oh and use the Xtremelabs speedtest - speedtest.net is crap.
EDIT: By the way, previous to this, the fastest I ever saw my phone go was 1Mbps - in the same areas I was testing today.
What the F, Batman!?! Definitely makes a big difference. From 75 kB/s to 139 kB/s in one test. Bars of service shot up from 0-1 to a solid 2, also.
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Sorry...cannot confirm. I had no discernible difference with 4G on or off. I have 5 or 6 bars with 500-1000 kbps download and 150-200 kbps upload. Get the same readings on Xtremelabs with 4G on and off. Sorry.
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Seems to work on my end. That's an interesting find. Seems if you turn 4g on and its nor available where you are they boost the 3g speed. Very interesting.
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I could be wrong but it seems like I get better data speeds with the 4G radio turned on in a non 4G area.
I'm not rooted. Running the latest software release.
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Went back to the house where I have one or two bars of signal and I still do not see any difference except that my overall speed is about half what it was. But no difference between 4G on or off. I'm running Fresh 3.1.0.1 with stock kernel in a non-4G area.
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I ran three speed tests with it off and three with it on and then averaged the max. While it was running, the sustained throughput was almost exactly the same. The averages were:
with 4g off: 1142 down 199 up
with 4g on: 1156 down 217 up
Not much difference.
I think that many people don't get that the 3g speeds are subject to change at any given time, that is why there can be drastic changes in speed. Too many people on this board are succumbing to the placebo effect. Just my observation.
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I think that many people don't get that the 3g speeds are subject to change at any given time, that is why there can be drastic changes in speed. Too many people on this board are succumbing to the placebo effect. Just my observation.
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Im just waiting for the fix to the PRI issue hoping that when it comes out people find their 3G speeds remains the same. Now how eventful would that be. Cause maybe its is just a matter of towers cause I'm on 1.34 pri and 3G test still hits 1016 down and 200 up.
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Im just waiting for the fix to the PRI issue hoping that when it comes out people find their 3G speeds remains the same. Now how eventful would that be. Cause maybe its is just a matter of towers cause I'm on 1.34 pri and 3G test still hits 1016 down and 200 up.
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Then they will just say that the pri fix is broken!
Sorry it didn't have positive effects for everyone.
In the Denver area, at the very least, I've confirmed it on my Evo and a coworkers Evo. We regularly are getting two megs now... if we shut off the 4G, it takes about 10 or 15 minutes but we will drop back to 900 and stay there. Turn it back on, back to 2megs.
Just for grins I tried turning on the 4G to test my results.
I'm not rooted and running 2.2
3G alone = 1296kbit/s
4G on (no 4G service) = 1102kbit/s
So, it didn't do anything for me.
As I said, this is for SLOW 3G speeds, meaning >600kbps - with those speeds, you're probably not being affected by any sort of a bug. I had never seen 1Mbps much less 2 on this phone until that fix.
I still doubt the PRI has much of an effect, but perhaps there is hope that you can go back to 1.40 soon and find out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7602569&postcount=70
I have given this modem several chances and it has disappointed me everytime. I consistently get 300 kbs less at home on my Airave on 3G. Out of the house it stops downloading in the middle. Speed is up and down. I lose internet off and on. All on 3G. 3G icon sits there but no blue arrows flash. Sometimes I have to toggle airplane mode several times to get 3G going again.
The only good thing I have found is that I can connect to 4G in my living room consistenetly where the EC05 modem was hit or miss. So if you use 4G all the time this may be a good modem for you. for 3G...throw it out.
I had problems with 3G (dropping out and not coming back) and GPS lock when I first flashed the EE03 modem. Second time around GPS locked and I haven't had the dropped 3G issue since that first flash. Not sure what's up with that, you'd think the problems would be consistent. However, im prolly not the best gauge as I have Wifi everywhere I go. I use 3G sparingly. I haven't compared speeds between the two modems though.
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I have given this modem several chances and it has disappointed me everytime. I consistently get 300 kbs less at home on my Airave on 3G. Out of the house it stops downloading in the middle. Speed is up and down. I lose internet off and on. All on 3G. 3G icon sits there but no blue arrows flash. Sometimes I have to toggle airplane mode several times to get 3G going again.
The only good thing I have found is that I can connect to 4G in my living room consistenetly where the EC05 modem was hit or miss. So if you use 4G all the time this may be a good modem for you. for 3G...throw it out.
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I had problems with 3G (dropping out and not coming back) and GPS lock when I first flashed the EE03 modem. Second time around GPS locked and I haven't had the dropped 3G issue since that first flash. Not sure what's up with that, you'd think the problems would be consistent. However, im prolly not the best gauge as I have Wifi everywhere I go. I use 3G sparingly. I haven't compared speeds between the two modems though.
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Yeah, that's why I gave it the best test possible with an Airave. I get 1.8Mbs with EC05 and 1.5Mbs with the EE03.
3g signal and strength seems a little stronger for me but not by a whole lot. I've been running it without any issues.
3g drops constantly with ee03. Can't wait for a stable gingerbread!
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EE03 speed up my connection quite a bit. No issues here, and paired with SRF 1.1.1, my phone is extremely fast.
I'm fine with it. Little difference
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For those with EE03, does it write/change your Wimax settings. I changed a bunch of mine while using ED05, namely the min signal strength toconnect. Default was like -89 and I lowered mine to -94. Def able to connect more, but if it doesn't... u can just watch the bat guage spin. Just wondering if increased performance with the new modem may be due to tweaking the settings.
I had changed my 3G extensions... blanked them all out. They got set back to default while flashing a ROM. Never got a chance to evaluate a difference. Are the ports/proxies set up the same with EE03? Maybe try blanking the 4 entries and see if that helps.
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No changes, just flashed the modem.
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No way I love the ee03 modem. I used to have a lot of emails that I would send hang for the longest time. Haven't had a problem at all with ee03 modem. Also 3g speed is so much faster for me as well. Just my opinion.
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I have given this modem several chances and it has disappointed me everytime. I consistently get 300 kbs less at home on my Airave on 3G. Out of the house it stops downloading in the middle. Speed is up and down. I lose internet off and on. All on 3G. 3G icon sits there but no blue arrows flash. Sometimes I have to toggle airplane mode several times to get 3G going again.
The only good thing I have found is that I can connect to 4G in my living room consistenetly where the EC05 modem was hit or miss. So if you use 4G all the time this may be a good modem for you. for 3G...throw it out.
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Have you ever seen this behavior on eb13's and ec05's modem? I have and also dk28's modem. I have this pop up from time to time on various rom/modem combinations and I'm starting to think its some sort of RIL bug or 3g handshake bug, maybe even some sort of permissions bug (really I have no clue tho).
I see this happen from time to time. I'm in a spot that always has 3g, but what happens, it just sits there loading, all the while my 3g icon is dormant, doing nothing. Then out of the blue it goes to 1x and starts working, but only with 1x, then when its done loading whatever, it will bring 3g back and it may or may not repeat the same thing again when I try to pull data. Note; occasionally it will retain 3g, but be hexa slow.....1~10kbps slow.....ouch, that's slow.
That was why I spoke of a modem binge in some other threads. Originally I thought it was sprints network taking a dump in my hand(set). Now after seeing an evo getting 3g right next to me, while mine was stalling and eventually dropped to 1x and also trying every decent modem. I have to believe the problem is in my phone some place.
Only thing I have recently discovered to work is to fix permissions in rom manager, I don't use rom manager for anything, except fixing permissions. The only reason I even tried fixing permissions in rom manager, was after fixing permissions in cwm (3.0.0.6) my phone would (sometimes) get stuck in a boot loop and the only way to fix it would be to clear cache and dalvik cache or restore a backup in cwm. However this modem bug/issue still pops up from time to time, mostly when the phone has been sleeping for 10minutes or more.
I actually think the ee03 modem is pretty good. Just my problems are not.
i wouldnt know lol ive been stuck on dk28 since the usb ports on my laptop are broken
I'm unable to connect to GPS and I don't like how switching from WiFi to 3g necessitates me enabling airplane mode
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@Epic4gee...Yeah, I got those symptoms but only going to the EE03 modem. Maybe it is a tower/modem issue for me. But the biggest thing is that it is slower on an Airave which should be the best connection I could get with a 30Mbs broadband connection. I could pass off the connection drops as Sprint but not the speed difference.
Yeah 3g sucked for me too
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I'm calling malarchy on this thread since this morning I was getting 1.2 mbs/s on 3g, 7.45 mbs/s on 4g and 17.07 mbs/s on wifi with multiple attempts. I think like all devices thios varies by region, modem software and device hardware. It'll never hit that venn diagram where all 3 circles coexist at their highest points. I was probably in some mecca of coverage this morning.
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I'm calling malarchy on this thread since this morning I was getting 1.2 mbs/s on 3g, 7.45 mbs/s on 4g and 17.07 mbs/s on wifi with multiple attempts. I think like all devices thios varies by region, modem software and device hardware. It'll never hit that venn diagram where all 3 circles coexist at their highest points. I was probably in some mecca of coverage this morning.
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Did you put the EC05 modem back on and test it in the same area? You will get about 200-300 kbs more in speed on 3G. I consistently tested this on the fastest connection possible, an Airave with Broadband 30Mbs connection. EC05 is faster, EE03 connects to 4G better in low signal areas.
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Did you put the EC05 modem back on and test it in the same area? You will get about 200-300 kbs more in speed on 3G. I consistently tested this on the fastest connection possible, an Airave with Broadband 30Mbs connection. EC05 is faster, EE03 connects to 4G better in low signal areas.
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I have 4g in my city, why would I ever use 3g unless I really had to? My 3g has always been jack unless in specific circumstances. I've actually noticed it to be zippier while lacking the download test results.
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i wouldnt know lol ive been stuck on dk28 since the usb ports on my laptop are broken
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christ man...i think i could negotiate a flash off a laptop at bestbuy/staples/officemax if i was that screwed
go get a library card or rent/buy a friend for a minute
hell go rent a laptop from rent-a-center for a week
i see people give away p3/p4 computers on craigslist like they are going out of style...oh wait...they are...but hell they still do work
consider broadening your horizons just slightly past your own living room
thats all i'm sayin
hell take a walk onto a college campus and have a seat or a high school
people will help you...you just gotta ask
I see a major improvement in the signal with the ee03 modem. I live in portland, and went from 2-3 bounding bars to a steady 4. My 4g still disconnects in my apartment, but it is stronger than it was outside my building.
Haven't yet seen a poll on this and I am curious to see if this is really affecting as many as it seems, here on XDA.
Edit: It would appear that it is indeed an issue for 9/10 NS4G owners.
I have poor WiFi reception. I had a Hero and Evo, and my GF has a Shift, and all those devices have gotten good Wifi in the bedroom. A desktop and laptop have good reception there too. The NS is hopeless unless I stand near the door and hold it gingerly with two fingers. I ended up adding another AP in another part of the house just to cover the NS.
3G signal acquisition is a little below the average set by the above devices, but not too bad. I have to be in a pretty marginal area not to get 3G, and the Evo and Shift last only a little bit past the NS' range.
I have only just recently acknowledged this as a problem. Since day one my WiFi cuts out and my time without a signal is always high. Not sure if 3G is just poor because of Sprint, but it has also been a huge battery drain.
What's funny is the OTA announcement does not seem to state that they are working on 3g issues. It is a little unclear, but that 5th bullet point seems to say they are addressing 4g radio issues only!
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Hopefully they increase its stability as a result of fixing other areas of the radio? Longshot, I know.
Wifi is the suck. I have had less than full strength 1ft away from the router.
Not sure if it is this phone or Sprints cup and string network but I constantly get random periods of no internet/data throughput. Mainly on 4g. Going through one right now. 4g connects but there is just zero data tranfered. All webpages time out etc. Now on Sprints totally awesome dialup on vitamins 3g network.
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For me, all the above. Call me pessimistic but I'm kinda doubting that software will fix a poor radio. Has anyone ever actually experienced an update solving a bad radio? I was actually considering getting a new evo 4g with the extended battery and call it a day. As more days pass by, it seems my network performance gets worse. The times where I'm not getting any data throughput are getting longer. It was annoying for awhile but now this really pissing me off! Cycling airplane mode and rebooting the phone is getting to the point where it doesn't fix anything. Its a waste of time. Like many other people are saying, I love the phone but using it for its main purpose, a phone, it is utterly horrible! Most of the time I have very little signal on the tower, if any at all. I keep saying I'm not going to buy Samsung phones anymore but I still do and continue to get burned by them.
Weird. Now that you mention it I thought the same thing. It just gets worse.
When I first got this phone I could sit on 4g all day long and the internet was just there. 3g too. 100% reliable network activity. Then about a month ago the random periods of no data throughput started happening. First it was both 3g and 4g, now it is just 4g. The 3g speeds are a joke. You can't stream **** with this phone on 3g without skipping and buffering. 4g streams fine but you still have to worry about the data throughput hitting a 2hr or longer brick wall of uselessness.
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Luckily i keep my galaxy tab with me because my nexus will show no bars and no data when my tab will be close to full. I just end up using my tab for most of my data use.
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If the next update comes and it doesn't fix anything, then we should be allowed to have the device replaced.
My guess is that it is a combination of our crappy radios and sprint is still having wide spread data issues. My gf has my epic and even though she gets more signal and less data loss than I do, she's still experiencing network issues. About an hour ago, I just got a bunch of responses from her that were morning and afternoon and they came in all at once. I sent an email and a text in both stock SMS and Google voice a little while ago and haven't heard anything back yet. Sprint must know they're having network issues. It seems like it has been going on for three weeks now and today is really bad. There are times that I think dial up is faster than the speeds I'm getting when it does work.
Woohoo. Just got 4g data throughput back. Only down for 4 and 1/2 hours today. All good till tomorrows outage. *eyeroll*
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I noticed I just got 3g back.
3G and 4G are great! only WiFi needs to be touched up. I use 3G at the home (averaging 2,000 kbps DL) so WiFi isn't needed unless I'm downloading huge ROMs or other files.
Still, I prefer having a working WiFi for friend's houses and other locations.
I have a USB Data Card. u301. I have an antenna plugged in to it mounted on the roof and I get full service. Speeds at around 13.6 Down, 1.40 up. I plug the Epic in and with full service. Speeds at around 2.61 Down, 0.42 up. WTF? huh...
I get 4-6 Mbps down on average with bursts above 8. 1.4 on the download. My speeds have actually gotten better over the past 2 months.
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My average with the very little 4g i have here is 2mb and lower then 1mb up download so your lucky to get what u get..
When i went to chicago a few weeks ago, i got 12mb and 1ish upload
I was impressed in chicago
4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
Just ran a few speedtests from inside my apartment here in downtown Portland, OR
12006kbps down, 1486kbps up was the best.
Pretty beefy!
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4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
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thats not entirely true. i live in brooklyn ny and i have great 4g. averages around 7-8mbps
I've tested 4g speeds all over Denver since it came here, and have seen a striking contrast in different areas that are only a few blocks apart.
Aurora seems to range from around 3 mb/1.5 mb on the high side to just under 1 mb/0.3 mb, but there are a lot of holes in coverage (and the in-and-out coverage areas at the edge of said holes, of course). Once in a while, I have seen dl speeds up to 5 mb, even 7 on two occasions, but that only lasted for a half hour at best... ul speeds have never exceeded 1.5 mb for any of my tests.
I have seen more consistent ~5 mb upload speeds in parts of southwest denver and surrounding areas (englewood, littleton, etc.), though upload still signed like it was capped at 1.5 mb. But even some of those areas have had dead zones and flaky signal.
I have had one intermittent problem that could be my phone or the network - once in a while, everything will appear as if my phone is connected just fine, but I can't reach the internet. Go back to 3g and I'm fine, but when I reconnect to 4g, whether immediately or after a few minutes, it still behaves like a local network with no internet... Anyone else have this problem in Denver?
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4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
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Nah I live in the bronx and I get great 4g lol when I'm outside though. Myhouse is a lead box, apparently. I get 1 bar inside but it barely holds on to it.
There are a few dead spots though around the city. Like, BLATANT holes inthe coverage.
But other than that, I'm completely satisfied with 4g...I even get 1MB (yes byte) consistently when I'm chillen outside.
They could lower the ping though...1MB speed is still garbage when it takes a second for your command to go through.
I remember when I bought my epic downtown the first thing I did was turn 4g on and it connected...this was in october BEFORE 4g became official in the city lol I ike sprints commitment to nyc
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what are you guys using to test these speeds and what modem(s) are you running?
2.3 modem? Mine does that anywhere. Lol. Like it just feels like taking a break whenever.
I'm on the latest leak. Prob what it is. With full service I should be getting up to where my card is. Its like its caped.
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I've noticed that the clear 4g network is going through a lot of throttling changes. I've noticed they have been keepin the phones below 8Mb most of the time and clear itself is using a bandwidth throttle that doesn't seem to have a clear reset period. Streaming video has brought my home modem and usb modem to a .67 Mb crawl for thelast few days. But when I'm not being throttled I see up to 14Mb down.one last note I have yet to see any bandwidth throttling on the phones 4g tho. Blemh I think I have to go back to comcast for home internet:-(
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I've never really used 4G on my phone. It's only functional if I turn data off, then turn 4G on and stay stationary. If I'm driving it simply stops working. At least half the time it just connects, goes to sleep and stays that way until I toggle it off.
This plus the Overdrive I used to have is pretty much a fail sandwich.
Seattle/Lynnwood/Redmond areas primarily. SRF ROM, though it's pretty consistent across ROMs.
I use speedtest.net for my tests, both on my phone with the app and my tethered laptop via the website. I have tried all but a couple of the modems (I didn't bother with some of the leaks that came out almost back to back, because there was already a newer leak when I found time to flash). The results did vary slightly between modems, but not significantly enough for any one modem to stand out as the best or worst - some almost seemed to have good and bad times of day, and not necessarily the same times between modems (probably coincidence due to the random fluctuations in connection quality that I described in my previous post)
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I decided to try it and got 12MB down lol
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styles420 said:
I use speedtest.net for my tests
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I'm going to try this tomorrow for both 3G and 4G and will report back with the results.
dead78 said:
4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
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I agree completely with the above. In my apt on Upper East Side, 4g speeds are fine - but I get constant drops and terrible speeds (as in slower than 3g) on Upper West in my office. Have wifi at home so don't need 4G there, but would love to tether off 4G in my office. Sprint 4G sux
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I have a USB Data Card. u301. I have an antenna plugged in to it mounted on the roof and I get full service. Speeds at around 13.6 Down, 1.40 up. I plug the Epic in and with full service. Speeds at around 2.61 Down, 0.42 up. WTF? huh...
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What antenna did you use?
what does 995kB/s dl translate to? lol, it was insanely fast only a couple of times I tested it like 5 months back in san diego... I must have been the only guy that connected because now my 3g speeds tend to be on par with my 4g... and that was on 2.2...
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Ok so I ran a few tests on the Upper West Side this morning and the results were mildly surprising.
On 4G, I maxed out at about 6.0 Mbps down and 0.65 up with pings in the 140 range.
3G, on the other hand, maxed out at 0.3 Mbps down about 0.5 Mbps up with pings of roughly 260.
So, we've basically got no difference between 3G and 4G upstream and glorified dial-up for 3G down.
I'll try some more later from a different location.
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so I had to do a bit of driving around Manhattan today and decided to test 3G and 4G speeds in several areas. the short version of what I found: my neighborhood has the absolute worst 3G and 4G of any of the other neighborhoods I drove through. most of the Upper West Side south of me boasted around 4.6 Mbps down and 1.4 Mbps up. 3G was roughly 1.0 Mbps down and 0.85 up. In midtown, 4G was roughly 3.3 down a 1.0 Mbps up.
Compare that with my neighborhood where 3G doesn't crack 0.3 Mbps down and actually has faster upstream. I called Sprint and they claimed there is a "tower down" relatively close to me, and after some pressing, gave me a $25 credit for the down time.