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Sprint 3g speeds gone way down... Evo to blame?

So I noticed a huge drop in speed (as have most of you) with my general 3G network. I am in LA, so my 4G is lucky if you find it.
On my old TP before the Evo came on, I got 700Kb on a bad day, 1200 on a good day... so very usable.
I was getting similar speeds on My Evo for the first week. Now I am getting horrible speeds with 300Kb, and when things are slow (and they are often slow) I get 74Kb. What is really bad.
I didn't know if it was the Evo, the battery "tricks" I applied such as turning off "enabled always-on mobile data" so I turned it back on.
I am still getting bad results and about to call sprint.... when I decided to test my wife's Palm Pre... She is also getting poor speeds (300Kb when I checked), and told me she noticed a difference in the last few weeks.
Is the Evo too successful for Sprint? Did it actually effect the network? Or is this a glitch at Sprint that will soon be changed.
More importantly... What can we do?

my speeds are lower
Before I got me evo I had a mogul. My speeds were great at 1100kbs down and 600kbs up. Now after my upgrade my evo will only get 100 down and 60 up. I can't believe they can charge $10 extra since I can't even watch YouTube on the lowest video quality without being on wifi. I could do more on the internet with my mogul than the evo. I know the evo is not the cause its sprints network. Also apparently sprint has no plans as of yet to put 4g here in Colorado springs. I am point to return my evo if nothing changes before my 30 days are up.

my speeds were 1.82Mbps and went down to .63-.92 most of the day today. I just checked after reading your thread and my speeds are back to normal. You just have to wait it out. It wasn't just the EVO either it was my Hero also that got crappy speeds.

apollooff320 said:
my speeds were 1.82Mbps and went down to .63-.92 most of the day today. I just checked after reading your thread and my speeds are back to normal. You just have to wait it out. It wasn't just the EVO either it was my Hero also that got crappy speeds.
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What he meant was that the evo being launched and so many getting it caused the slow down on sprint's network. This was similar to when the iphone 3g and 3gs came out, att's network slowed down quite a bit. I noticed it right away when I was on att.

I actually get better speeds than my previous phone, hell I consistently get better coverage and speed then my friends g1 on tmo and my sisters verizon moto droid
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In SF, I'm getting around ~400-450 down, ~500 up..
(For comparison, the verizon incredible that I was testing last month was getting ~1100 down / 700 up)
-mark

in socal.. 500 down, 500 up.
using a hero

Visiting my mom at the hospital in Oakland, CA on 3G I'm getting 2.2 Mbps down, 0.8 Mbps up.
@ Work Martinez, CA - 1.8 Mbps down, 0.6 up.
@ Home Vallejo, CA - 0.7 Mbps down, 0.5 up.
Been pretty consistant since the day I got the Evo.

I'm in Grand Rapids, MI & I've noticed a decline in throughput as well on 3 different android phones these last two weeks.
HTC Hero - 1.2Mb/S before about 2 months ago, last time I checked last week before I smashed it, it was ~700Kb/S
Samsung Moment - ~ 800Kb/s
EVO - 500Kb/S MAX
No 4G here yet. I think Sprint throttled things back a bit to save some bandwidth/money on 3G & to make a larger aparent difference between 3G & 4G. Also could be tied to a future plan of tiered service rates. The common consumer has no clue what kind of throughput they get, they just notice aparent speed & want more. Throttling back service before a tiered service rate initiative is a good way to entice mo monies from common folks wanting faster phone porn & unstuttering LOST reruns.

Update your prl.....in san Diego and I get 1.8 mbps down and 700kbps up
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Update your prl.....in san Diego and I get 1.8 mbps down and 700kbps up
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Update PRL from the phone PRL update? Or are you talking about using the VRZ PRL? I don't want to to the vrz hack because of the risk of roaming.

It seems like this issue always come out for big releases, and I'm usually...skeptical. However I'm seeing some differences lately....I compared my results to the Hero. Same location. Same number of bars. Ran the test throughout the day.
New 3g results on EVO
.43 Mbps/.30Mbps up. (only differs by about .2Mbps/.1Mbps throughout the day)
I was consistently getting close to 1Mbps down and close to .5Mbps up on my Hero.
My radio and PRL are updated.
There might be something to this at least in some locations.

EVO - 780 down, 320 up.
Touch Pro 2 - 2.1Mbps down, 268 up.
HUGE difference... and they're both using the same home agent. I think the radio hardware in the EVO is inferior as I've NEVER seen it get above 1.3Mbps, whereas by TP2 and Mogul but regularly run about 1.5 on average...
Not to mention the fact that my TP2 holds a wifi signal much better than my EVO... My EVO won't stay connected to my router if I walk outside... My TP2 holds it all the way to the mailbox (about 100 feet from the router). Though wifi speeds (I've seen 13Mbps) are much better on the EVO when you're practically sitting on the router.

EtherealRemnant said:
EVO - 780 down, 320 up.
Touch Pro 2 - 2.1Mbps down, 268 up.
HUGE difference... and they're both using the same home agent. I think the radio hardware in the EVO is inferior as I've NEVER seen it get above 1.3Mbps, whereas by TP2 and Mogul but regularly run about 1.5 on average...
Not to mention the fact that my TP2 holds a wifi signal much better than my EVO... My EVO won't stay connected to my router if I walk outside... My TP2 holds it all the way to the mailbox (about 100 feet from the router). Though wifi speeds (I've seen 13Mbps) are much better on the EVO when you're practically sitting on the router.
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Ah, so you suspect a similiar radio issue as the wi-fi as opposed to a bandwidth issue...I could see that (especially in response to the battery issues).

I'm not sure I would have really noticed it but I ran a few speed tests the past couple of days and they were all in the ****ter.
Getting 250-500 down and around 600 up.

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Ah, so you suspect a similiar radio issue as the wi-fi as opposed to a bandwidth issue...I could see that (especially in response to the battery issues).
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I have never seen such terrible speeds on a Rev A device... My area is blanketed in Rev A and my data card pulls 2.6/400 consistently so I know it has nothing to do with the network.
Between the 3G speeds (or lack thereof), the wifi issues, the 30FPS cap, and the battery life, that Samsung Galaxy S Pro is looking mighty nice...

Well I have been running tests all day as I prep to call Sprint. The variation is HUGE.
Mostly I am getting 200 to 500 down and 200 to 400 up with pings in the high 200
Then suddenly I got a pocket of time I got 1500 to 1200 down and 500 up with pings around 140
Then dropped again to 40 down and 100 up with pings near 600
I noticed on the tests that I did that are bad the needle on the speed test would hand and jump... it is almost like I was getting a bad signal that would be breaking up.
Basically this is really bad. I used to steam audio all the time on my old TP and now I can't because it has basically become impossible to listen to anything due to the poor bandwidth. I am paying $10 for premium service and it got worse... I am going to demand they refund me the $10 until they fix the bandwidth issue (we will see how THAT goes....)

Where are you guys conducting these tests? Don't use the speedtest app - its broken (it shows an 800 upload which is impossible - at least in my area). Speedtest.net from the phone will not give you proper latency and may or may not reflect the true speed.
testmy.net 25MB download and testmy.net 3MB upload are the tests I've been using.

In boise, id on the 3g network not 4g. I was using speedtest and the results have been pretty consistent for me when I get the same server but I'm not against using a different bandwidth test...
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Its just best for everyone to be using the same server to test on. Testmy.net has no problem handling my 50meg connection at home (tests at 62/19) whereas I have a hard time finding a speedtest.net server that works. I can tell you though, if you go to speedtest.net and run a speed test on the same server you were using in the app, your latency will be lower but your speed will be faster... That tells me the app is not reporting properly.
Also, speeds tend to peak and normalize after about 10MB... so the speedtest.net tests aren't as accurate as testmy.net would be.

My 3G is pathetic

I've even tryed the EVRC thing

Mine is very spotty. Sometimes I get 1.5mbps and other times (like right now), it looks like this:
Wifi is ok, but its results are slower in the browser vs. the actual Speedtest app:

Mine is also as horrible here in Phoenix.

I've been happy with my service in Jacksonville. Usually in the range of 1.3 - 1.5 mbps, upwards of 2 mbps

Steve325 said:
I've been happy with my service in Jacksonville. Usually in the range of 1.3 - 1.5 mbps, upwards of 2 mbps
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Are you rooted? Just curious.

zeuzinn said:
Are you rooted? Just curious.
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dont worry you are not alone, my 3g sometimes fast and sometimes slow....but on average, i got about 800-1200kbps.

campchi said:
dont worry you are not alone, my 3g sometimes fast and sometimes slow....but on average, i got about 800-1200kbps.
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Ditto. Either way though, my 3G connection is still faster than my home's DSL.
Then again, what would you expect from AT&T?

If you're using the SpeedTest app to check speeds, just be aware that it is inaccurate as all get out.

Same,
I just switched from ATT(St. Louis) My ATT 3g speeds are similar to my 4g Sprint speeds at times
3g on ATT in a rural area tested from 1.2-2.3mpbs, sprint 4g has topped out at 2.0mpbs downtown.
Very sad.
ortizdupri said:
If you're using the SpeedTest app to check speeds, just be aware that it is inaccurate as all get out.
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What do you recommend? DSL reports?
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Here's the results
4g
Speedtest - 1.56
DSL Reports Flash - 3.8
3g
Speedtest - 155
DSL Reports Flash - 556
You may have something there sir
Seems for this app it either doesn't throttle or is using **** servers.

Well i dunno what to blame. I do live in a completly brick house. All though i can go to walmart and have 5-6 bars but go back to my house 5 blocks away with a good signal all the way untill i walk up my steps (garage appt) and into my door and drop to 0 to at best 4 bars. Its almost like my house is made out of led or something because it seems to block out any kind of signal, even the "new" digital tv signals. But even when i do have a full signal the best i get is 100kb/s

what is really stupid for me is that my upload speed over 3g is oftentimes faster than the download speed with full bars.

knives of ice said:
what is really stupid for me is that my upload speed over 3g is oftentimes faster than the download speed with full bars.
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That happens when you use the speed test app. It won't be the case with anything else.

T-Mobile is Growing: Data is Slowing Down

Anyone else notice slower data? I used to average 7.2mbps on my Vibrant, I even scored 10mbps on a G2.
Nexus S averages out at 4mbps.... Sometimes 2.5. Highest I've got it to was 5 on a lucky day. My GF has my old Vibrant and she is getting the same download speeds.
Don't know if I should be happy or sad Lol!
Anyone else notice speed slowing down in the last 6 months?

Anderdroid said:
Anyone else notice slower data? I used to average 7.2mbps on my Vibrant, I even scored 10mbps on a G2.
Nexus S averages out at 4mbps.... Sometimes 2.5. Highest I've got it to was 5 on a lucky day. My GF has my old Vibrant and she is getting the same download speeds.
Don't know if I should be happy or sad Lol!
Anyone else notice speed slowing down in the last 6 months?
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HSDPA or HSPA+ makes no difference in the end. Reason we get a performance boost from HSPA+ even though we dont support it is HSPA+ is all in the backend.
which means faster speeds for all. Imagine what the speeds would be without HSPA+

I realize this. But speeds have been slowing down lately.
We do get the boost from HSPA+ but what slows it down is the fact that T-Mobile is getting tons of new customers... The network may get clogged and we could have an AT&T disaster!

Anderdroid said:
I realize this. But speeds have been slowing down lately.
We do get the boost from HSPA+ but what slows it down is the fact that T-Mobile is getting tons of new customers... The network may get clogged and we could have an AT&T disaster!
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hm, i noticed this too, and also, theres at least 20+ people that i know that used to have ATT/Verizon that has jumped over to tmobile in the past month or 2.

I haven't noticed any noticeable difference in average network performance over the past seven months. I haven't been clocking it, though; just speaking from my personal sense of how quickly it was downloading.

Yes, I've definitely noticed a slow down in the past 60 days.
I used to get 3800 to 4400 Kb/s on my N1. Once I switched to the NS, I've never seen faster than about 3000 Kb/s. I posted in a different thread yesterday that I ran some tests with both the N1 and the NS (using the same sim card in both) and found that the N1 no longer goes over 3000 Kb/s.
Conclusion: the service has degraded around here.
But it just occurred to me that I had been "throttled" for being a data pig last November, and the throttling was supposed to last until mid-December. Here's the interesting part, even "throttled" my speeds only declined to about 2800 Kb/s; which means I'm still getting those speeds that I got while "throttled". I wonder if they forgot to "un-throttle" me.
I'll call customer service today and double check. I'll also complain about the drop in speeds.
Is it possible you're being throttled and missed the notification?

I'm in central Florida and can say there has been a big decrease in speed here in the past 3 months. I too came from a Vibrant that my wife now uses and can say the same as the OP.

I think its a mix of things. New customers on high data use handsets utilizing that advertised 4g speed. I also think it being winter time that people are staying inside and using their phones and devices more, much like how gas use in homes goes up in the winter time. There's less to do outside, etc, so you are connecting more through electronic means. Hopefully tmo continues to expand their back haul, and they will have to to achieve those even faster than 21mbps speeds. I think conversely that in the summer you will see your speeds come back.
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Glad I'm not the only one! Let's hope it's just for the winter! Heh

Wouldn't winter help more? Since having wireless in the home? By your logic it would be worse in the summer because it's nicer weather and people travel more and need mobile data to facebook it up.
If you want to test if the service is slowing down due to many people, test it at least 4 times throughout the day with at least twice at night such as 1am and 3-4am, shouldn't be many people on then.

About 6 months ago I was on T-Mobile at which time I switched to Sprint for yearly updates and a supposedly cheaper plan. When those two things ended up not happening I switched back and I can say without a doubt that my speeds are faster. This could be due to the fact that I had a MT3G before and now have a NS or that when I was on Tmo before their HSPA network was not really available or it could be just that its faster. Either way I'm much happier as with Sprint I was topping out at 1.5mbps on 3G and now on Tmo I'm getting up to around 3.5 some times even closer to 4.

About 20 days ago I started experiencing data slowness. Before I was averaging 3.0-4.0 I called Tmobile multiply times to reset me with the towers. No luck. I have the nexus S and my girl has the vibrant. Now we can barely hit 1.0 its very frustrating I thought I was the only one but after googling and finding this thread I see Im not alone.

I have no complaints here in terms of TMOs speed. With the NS I get about 4-5mb consistently. When I was at best buy playing around with phone the MT4G hit 11mb down, although the average speed was closer to 9mb

jlevy73 said:
I have no complaints here in terms of TMOs speed. With the NS I get about 4-5mb consistently. When I was at best buy playing around with phone the MT4G hit 11mb down, although the average speed was closer to 9mb
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What part of Los Angeles are you in?
It was 3.8 - 4.2 pretty consistently near the Van Nuys Airport for a while, but now it's never more than 3.0.

distortedloop said:
What part of Los Angeles are you in?
It was 3.8 - 4.2 pretty consistently near the Van Nuys Airport for a while, but now it's never more than 3.0.
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I'm in the Hollywood area.

It's area dependent.
Brooklyn
in 18th/68th, I get top speed (up to 9Mbps with N900), average 4-5
in home area (N train Bay Parkway), I also get top speed
in Bay Parkway/86th, the speed is slower (2-3Mbps)
in Downtown (Fulton/Jay, A/C/F/R train station), the speed is barely workable
Manhattan
in Lower Manhattan (both Canal Street and City Hall), the speed it up to 2Mbps
in Midtown (Empire State Building), the speed is much slower (no more than 1Mbps)
in Inwood (A train 207 Street), the speed is good (4-5Mbps)
The speed test was conducted with either MT4 or NS except stated.

mingkee said:
It's area dependent.
Brooklyn
in 18th/68th, I get top speed (up to 9Mbps with N900), average 4-5
in home area (N train Bay Parkway), I also get top speed
in Bay Parkway/86th, the speed is slower (2-3Mbps)
in Downtown (Fulton/Jay, A/C/F/R train station), the speed is barely workable
Manhattan
in Lower Manhattan (both Canal Street and City Hall), the speed it up to 2Mbps
in Midtown (Empire State Building), the speed is much slower (no more than 1Mbps)
in Inwood (A train 207 Street), the speed is good (4-5Mbps)
The speed test was conducted with either MT4 or NS except stated.
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Wouldn't the MT4G get higher speeds and skew the results since it can access HSPA+ while we can only rid the coattails of it? Since only the MT4G can access the HSPA+ (the G2 can do HSPA, I believe but it cannot do the higher speeds) wouldn't that mean that the number of devices slowing that network was significantly smaller and therefore the amount of throttling due to network bottleneck would be significantly lower. Therefore to make an accurate speed test you would have to use the same type of phone (or to be completely scientific, the same phone).

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It's area dependent.
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I've always said cell service is like real estate, it's all about location, location, location.
Your point doesn't address the real issue. Sure, in different parts of town with different devices that have different speeds abilities we're going to see different speedtest results. We'll even see different results depending on the time of day in some areas.
The issue is that those of us who were averaging some particular speed, using the same device, in the same location, at the same time-of-day are now seeing reduced speeds.
For me it's a 25% reduction, consistently, on two different devices...

insanemachine said:
Wouldn't winter help more? Since having wireless in the home? By your logic it would be worse in the summer because it's nicer weather and people travel more and need mobile data to facebook it up.
If you want to test if the service is slowing down due to many people, test it at least 4 times throughout the day with at least twice at night such as 1am and 3-4am, shouldn't be many people on then.
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My last speedtest was at 4am lol

jlevy73 said:
I have no complaints here in terms of TMOs speed. With the NS I get about 4-5mb consistently. When I was at best buy playing around with phone the MT4G hit 11mb down, although the average speed was closer to 9mb
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It's as I feared. They're throttling non 4g devices so that the 4g devices get worlds faster. I used to max out at 7.2mbps on Vibrant. I wonder if the G2/MT4g still get 10mbps around here. Damn.
The Nexus S does get HSDPA and benefits from HSPA+. It should be maxing out at 7.2 if MT4g is getting over 7.2.
I mean. I am getting 3-5. Which is still awesome... But. I want my 7.2 back.

2.3.5 Update - 3G Test Results! (Nexus S 4G)

My girlfriend and I both have Nexus S 4G's so I decided to update mine and leave hers at 2.3.4 until I ran some tests. Here is what I concluded after about an hour of testing at home:
Signal strength was improved by around 10db
3G download speeds were 60% faster
3G upload speeds were 40% faster
It's important to note that the Speedtest.net app does not work properly on the Nexus S 4G. To get accurate results, you should use the Speakeasy Speed Test through your phone's web browser, or, tether your computer to your phone and run any speed test from your computer.
I haven't had a chance to test 4G but I am anticipating a big improvement.
Marco
PS. Sorry for the crappy photos taken on my old Evo 4G

It's impossible to rate 3G speed performance increases based off a radio update accurately. Sprints 3G network is such a pile of crap you could get 1mb a second one minute
and this garbage the next.

I tested it a few times over an hour period and got the same results. Beyond that I don't have the time to waste running further tests.
Sorry to hear you get crappy speeds.

did you do any testing on wifi signal strength?

I was getting 2.6 mbps dl at home before update. 60% of that would be crazy. Im on miui atm and idk if im going to update if it blocks tether.
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I didn't test Wifi and unfortunately I just updated her phone to 2.3.5!

Most importantly, how is the signal acquisition? One severe problem I faced is that signal is extremely patchy in areas that should not be patchy at all
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i know it stuffed all sorts of baby unicorns into 4g speeds, previously id average 1.4 down and up.. now i get 2.6 down and 1.7 up

I installed the update via this forum and I have zero signal bars and my airave is 20 feet away if that. My wifi signal indicator jumps around from weak to strong but is mainly weak. I don't know what the deal is, I'm not trying to scare anyone. Its just annoying me.
Is there anyway I can remove this update? I've never done any kind of rooting on my nexus s 4G
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I installed the update via this forum and I have zero signal bars and my airave is 20 feet away if that. My wifi signal indicator jumps around from weak to strong but is mainly weak. I don't know what the deal is, I'm not trying to scare anyone. Its just annoying me.
Is there anyway I can remove this update? I've never done any kind of rooting on my nexus s 4G
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OK so I did some playing around with my phone. It seems like everytime I start to make a call I immediately get 2 or 3 bars. Kinda strange.
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krisnicaj said:
OK so I did some playing around with my phone. It seems like everytime I start to make a call I immediately get 2 or 3 bars. Kinda strange.
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Do you have the older airave that is only 1x data? If so, it's displaying the 3G bars when not using 1x (either sms or call). You'll never miss a call due to signal if that's the case. It used to be that way for me when I had the older unit (just got the newer 3G airave, and now it's full bars all of the time).

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Do you have the older airave that is only 1x data? If so, it's displaying the 3G bars when not using 1x (either sms or call). You'll never miss a call due to signal if that's the case. It used to be that way for me when I had the older unit (just got the newer 3G airave, and now it's full bars all of the time).
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Yea I do, thanks
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3G signal has become worse for me on the new Radio. I'm now stuck on 1X in my home when I used to be decent 3G.
This sucks.

I'm running rooted 2.3.5 with Matrix 4.0 kernel.
Before update:
WIFI was 4.9 down 4.3 up
4G was 3.6 down 1.5 up
3G was 325 kps down 100 up
After Update:
WIFI is 7.2 down 1.5 up
4G is 4.5 down 1.5 up
3G is 550kps down 100 up
I ran each test a few times.
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My 3G speeds before were around 100kbps before the update, and around that now. Sprint is the worst carrier in the whole damn planet. I just check my Evo and it has around 300kbps tops... pathetic. Sprint if you are reading this, you ****ing SUCK

I just got 2.16 megs on my airwave. I used the speakeasy test. Before I could hardly get .8 mbps.
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It's important to note that the Speedtest.net app does not work properly on the Nexus S 4G. To get accurate results, you should use the Speakeasy Speed Test through your phone's web browser, or, tether your computer to your phone and run any speed test from your computer.
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Why is that the case?

2.3.4
3G 300kbps-1000kbps depending on location
4G max 5.5Mbps
Wifi max 6Mbps
2.3.5
3G 500kbps-1200kbps depending on location
4G max 7.5Mbps (!!!)
Wifi max 8Mbps

It seems like to me that one person says it helps and then the next says it sucks so I think I'm just going to leave well enough for now because i have mine on Boost and really don't feel like setting up data and mms again...wouldn't be hard but from the looks of things it really doesn't look like its worth it.

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Why is that the case?
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They are both built by ookla labs i'm with you on this one, if everyone uses speedtest app its clearly going to show any changes.

4G speeds...

I have a USB Data Card. u301. I have an antenna plugged in to it mounted on the roof and I get full service. Speeds at around 13.6 Down, 1.40 up. I plug the Epic in and with full service. Speeds at around 2.61 Down, 0.42 up. WTF? huh...

I get 4-6 Mbps down on average with bursts above 8. 1.4 on the download. My speeds have actually gotten better over the past 2 months.
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My average with the very little 4g i have here is 2mb and lower then 1mb up download so your lucky to get what u get..
When i went to chicago a few weeks ago, i got 12mb and 1ish upload
I was impressed in chicago

4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.

Just ran a few speedtests from inside my apartment here in downtown Portland, OR
12006kbps down, 1486kbps up was the best.
Pretty beefy!

dead78 said:
4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
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thats not entirely true. i live in brooklyn ny and i have great 4g. averages around 7-8mbps

I've tested 4g speeds all over Denver since it came here, and have seen a striking contrast in different areas that are only a few blocks apart.
Aurora seems to range from around 3 mb/1.5 mb on the high side to just under 1 mb/0.3 mb, but there are a lot of holes in coverage (and the in-and-out coverage areas at the edge of said holes, of course). Once in a while, I have seen dl speeds up to 5 mb, even 7 on two occasions, but that only lasted for a half hour at best... ul speeds have never exceeded 1.5 mb for any of my tests.
I have seen more consistent ~5 mb upload speeds in parts of southwest denver and surrounding areas (englewood, littleton, etc.), though upload still signed like it was capped at 1.5 mb. But even some of those areas have had dead zones and flaky signal.
I have had one intermittent problem that could be my phone or the network - once in a while, everything will appear as if my phone is connected just fine, but I can't reach the internet. Go back to 3g and I'm fine, but when I reconnect to 4g, whether immediately or after a few minutes, it still behaves like a local network with no internet... Anyone else have this problem in Denver?
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dead78 said:
4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
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Nah I live in the bronx and I get great 4g lol when I'm outside though. Myhouse is a lead box, apparently. I get 1 bar inside but it barely holds on to it.
There are a few dead spots though around the city. Like, BLATANT holes inthe coverage.
But other than that, I'm completely satisfied with 4g...I even get 1MB (yes byte) consistently when I'm chillen outside.
They could lower the ping though...1MB speed is still garbage when it takes a second for your command to go through.
I remember when I bought my epic downtown the first thing I did was turn 4g on and it connected...this was in october BEFORE 4g became official in the city lol I ike sprints commitment to nyc
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what are you guys using to test these speeds and what modem(s) are you running?

2.3 modem? Mine does that anywhere. Lol. Like it just feels like taking a break whenever.
I'm on the latest leak. Prob what it is. With full service I should be getting up to where my card is. Its like its caped.
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I've noticed that the clear 4g network is going through a lot of throttling changes. I've noticed they have been keepin the phones below 8Mb most of the time and clear itself is using a bandwidth throttle that doesn't seem to have a clear reset period. Streaming video has brought my home modem and usb modem to a .67 Mb crawl for thelast few days. But when I'm not being throttled I see up to 14Mb down.one last note I have yet to see any bandwidth throttling on the phones 4g tho. Blemh I think I have to go back to comcast for home internet:-(
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I've never really used 4G on my phone. It's only functional if I turn data off, then turn 4G on and stay stationary. If I'm driving it simply stops working. At least half the time it just connects, goes to sleep and stays that way until I toggle it off.
This plus the Overdrive I used to have is pretty much a fail sandwich.
Seattle/Lynnwood/Redmond areas primarily. SRF ROM, though it's pretty consistent across ROMs.

I use speedtest.net for my tests, both on my phone with the app and my tethered laptop via the website. I have tried all but a couple of the modems (I didn't bother with some of the leaks that came out almost back to back, because there was already a newer leak when I found time to flash). The results did vary slightly between modems, but not significantly enough for any one modem to stand out as the best or worst - some almost seemed to have good and bad times of day, and not necessarily the same times between modems (probably coincidence due to the random fluctuations in connection quality that I described in my previous post)
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I decided to try it and got 12MB down lol
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styles420 said:
I use speedtest.net for my tests
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I'm going to try this tomorrow for both 3G and 4G and will report back with the results.

dead78 said:
4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
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I agree completely with the above. In my apt on Upper East Side, 4g speeds are fine - but I get constant drops and terrible speeds (as in slower than 3g) on Upper West in my office. Have wifi at home so don't need 4G there, but would love to tether off 4G in my office. Sprint 4G sux

a454nova said:
I have a USB Data Card. u301. I have an antenna plugged in to it mounted on the roof and I get full service. Speeds at around 13.6 Down, 1.40 up. I plug the Epic in and with full service. Speeds at around 2.61 Down, 0.42 up. WTF? huh...
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What antenna did you use?

what does 995kB/s dl translate to? lol, it was insanely fast only a couple of times I tested it like 5 months back in san diego... I must have been the only guy that connected because now my 3g speeds tend to be on par with my 4g... and that was on 2.2...
Joey

Ok so I ran a few tests on the Upper West Side this morning and the results were mildly surprising.
On 4G, I maxed out at about 6.0 Mbps down and 0.65 up with pings in the 140 range.
3G, on the other hand, maxed out at 0.3 Mbps down about 0.5 Mbps up with pings of roughly 260.
So, we've basically got no difference between 3G and 4G upstream and glorified dial-up for 3G down.
I'll try some more later from a different location.
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so I had to do a bit of driving around Manhattan today and decided to test 3G and 4G speeds in several areas. the short version of what I found: my neighborhood has the absolute worst 3G and 4G of any of the other neighborhoods I drove through. most of the Upper West Side south of me boasted around 4.6 Mbps down and 1.4 Mbps up. 3G was roughly 1.0 Mbps down and 0.85 up. In midtown, 4G was roughly 3.3 down a 1.0 Mbps up.
Compare that with my neighborhood where 3G doesn't crack 0.3 Mbps down and actually has faster upstream. I called Sprint and they claimed there is a "tower down" relatively close to me, and after some pressing, gave me a $25 credit for the down time.