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[Poll] Build quality survey, please participate ...

Hi,
If you own a Nexus S, please tell us about your phone.
How many times you have exchanged your phone until you got a perfect one?
If you exchanged it, tell us why? What kind of problem did you get?
If you were asked, "In terms of build quality, what is the worst part?"
With this poll, we could get a rough picture about how well the manufacture / production of Nexus S, Samsung QA, those kind of things.
Thanks.

First in line, first Nexus s, perfect phone, no issues.
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nxt said:
First in line, first Nexus s, perfect phone, no issues.
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Same here. The only "problem" with my NS is the home button backlight is not as bright as the others.

First Nexus S, no issues whatsoever. I was very surprised since I went through three G2s(okay hinge, worst hinge, meh hinge) and three MT4Gs(bad screen, no update/bad reception, bad screen) that I ultimately ended ditching for this phone.
If asked what's the worst part of the build quality, I'd say the lack of texture coating to help the phone from feeling so slick.
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first in line, first phone, best phone,
i love him so much..*pets nexi*

unknown.soul said:
Same here. The only "problem" with my NS is the home button backlight is not as bright as the others.
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I too noticed that with my home button.
I've had the NS for 4 days and my battery life doesn't feel like its getting any better but I have used the phone constantly. I get about 5-7 hours usage before charge required again. That's around 15-30 percent.
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First phone. No issues whatsoever .

Mine works okay except cellular radio problem, but hopefully it'll be fixed through future radio ROM update.

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Mine works okay except cellular radio problem, but hopefully it'll be fixed through future radio ROM update.
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what is wrong/what do u think is a problem

First phone and no issues.

Much improved over Vibrant. So that is gingerbread over TMo 2.1. Also better than my MT4G, it seems to find its ffc. But rooted/OCLF Vibrant blows over 2k on Quadrant and both HTC phones are up 6db on WiFi sensitivity from both Samsung phones. OTA on SNS seems very good though. Already got first OTA update on SNS!! No TMo klepto wear dragging me down. Wow, Skype, Fring Tango seem to work. Now need to root and get edge and a prepaid SIM card. Only Navigon won't load on SNS but does on all others Inc. SG Tab.
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First phone here also,not seeing any of the problems mentioned in this forum. Bought in UK.
Very nice phone and certainly the best android phone I've used out of desire, desire HD, galaxy s. Very. Impressed with battery, crucifies all previously mentioned in this department.

Second phone. Had to replace first one due to back button being unsensitive like other buttons. Also noticed gsensor is quite jumpy in readings. Trying to understand if this is also hardware error.
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2nd phone - first went back because of the fast battery drain and unresponsive back button.
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2nd phone - first went back because of the fast battery drain and unresponsive back button.
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How fast of a drain? I recently feel my battery drains quite fast.
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I had mine exchanged. Had the metal piece from earpiece crooked and one corner was raised higher than the phones' glass.
GPS reception is horrible on this device however. I can be driving and it randomly loses signal.
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First phone..have not had one hardware issue with it..overall favorite phone ive owned and I've had A LOT!!..
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bogdi1988 said:
I had mine exchanged. Had the metal piece from earpiece crooked and one corner was raised higher than the phones' glass.
GPS reception is horrible on this device however. I can be driving and it randomly loses signal.
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I have actually found GPS on this phone to be quite nice i get a fast lock and its always within 5-20 meters... coming from the captivate im extremely happy with the GPS!!..

TheKenAnthony said:
I have actually found GPS on this phone to be quite nice i get a fast lock and its always within 5-20 meters... coming from the captivate im extremely happy with the GPS!!..
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I think most or all of the U.S. SGS variants had really bad GPS on a lot of phones. I know I came to the Nexus S from Vibrant and it is insane how much better it is.

slowz3r said:
what is wrong/what do u think is a problem
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The cellular radio freezes when being under no signal condition (subway in underground) for more than about 10 minutes. That the phone is no longer to get signal even the train goes to surface or I get off the station.
I have to power cycle the phone in order to make cellular radio works again.
Wifi and BT aren't affected.
Here is the related thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882518

Improve wifi performance

This is the lamest "mod" ever.
If you are experiencing dropped wifi because you are just barely within signal (like I am at work), holding the phone in landscape orientation with the backlit hardware keys on the right will increase your wifi signal by two bars. Im assuming the chip is on the right side of the phone.
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I definitely got to try this on Monday....my wifi signal sucks @ work:-(

Mine does the opposite.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

Lol it works and I'm sat next to the router! How bizarre.
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Tennis11 said:
Mine does the opposite.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
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Maybe it depends on router location. Both orientations should be tried. This saved me because holding the phone upright drops signal every few minutes, but landscape is a solid 2
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makes sense that the wifi antenna is on the right since if it is plugged into a dock (left side down, where the hdmi/usb are), the wifi would be able to get the best signal....dont know this for a fact but makes sense

Room7 said:
makes sense that the wifi antenna is on the right since if it is plugged into a dock (left side down, where the hdmi/usb are), the wifi would be able to get the best signal....dont know this for a fact but makes sense
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Good point
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from my understanding,
the way antennas work is that they have a null/hole perpendicular to how they're pointed.
in other words, if the transmitting antenna is pointing straight up and down, then the receiving antenna should be pointing straight up and down for the best reception. otoh, for the WORST reception, the receiving antenna should then be pointing sideways (if the transmitting is pointing straight up and down.)
therefore, in a perfect world, if you wanted the best coverage...on a router with two antennas, you'd point one straight up and down, and another sideways. that way you have everything covered...the straight up and down, and the sideways...and everything inbetween.
but we don't live in a perfect world...and there are walls, reflections and cancellations...and so came the rise of the "rabbit ear" tv antenna position..two antennas pointed 45degrees off center...which is a compromise. each antenna is now more likely to pick up "something" vs "nothing". you may not get the best reception, but you won't get the worst...and you shouldn't get "holes".
and so with the atrix, it'd depend how the wifi antennas are situated vs how your router antennas are situated vs the wifi reflections off the walls, etc.
also, if you think about it, if the antennas are on the side...then in portrait mode your hands are covering the antennas, whereas in landscape mode you're not.

The atrix has N draft wireless and i have been less than impressed with the signal strength seeing as my iphone back in the day could get much better signal in identical situations. However this does not by any means diminish the awesomeness of android over iOS

Khoops66 said:
The atrix has N draft wireless and i have been less than impressed with the signal strength seeing as my iphone back in the day could get much better signal in identical situations. However this does not by any means diminish the awesomeness of android over iOS
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It's because of the location of the wifi chip on the phone. I get better signal with my Atrix lanscape, hardware keys to the right, than I could get with my iphone 4 in ANY orientation.
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Khoops66 said:
The atrix has N draft wireless and i have been less than impressed with the signal strength seeing as my iphone back in the day could get much better signal in identical situations. However this does not by any means diminish the awesomeness of android over iOS
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Im holding a new atrix an a new iphone4. Not only is the atrix reception better it can see 6 wifi networks, the iphone only 2.
On data 2g when in devon i was downloading apps and checking emails while the iphone couldnt get any reception on the same mobile supplier.
Jonnym
i like both phones and there os's but the atrix is far better connected

Jonnym said:
Im holding a new atrix an a new iphone4. Not only is the atrix reception better it can see 6 wifi networks, the iphone only 2.
On data 2g when in devon i was downloading apps and checking emails while the iphone couldnt get any reception on the same mobile supplier.
Jonnym
i like both phones and there os's but the atrix is far better connected
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This has not been my experience at all. My Atrix gets worse wifi connection under all circumstances compared to my iphone 4.
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Damn that does work..
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Jonnym said:
Im holding a new atrix an a new iphone4. Not only is the atrix reception better it can see 6 wifi networks, the iphone only 2.
On data 2g when in devon i was downloading apps and checking emails while the iphone couldnt get any reception on the same mobile supplier.
Jonnym
i like both phones and there os's but the atrix is far better connected
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I'm in Devon and just waiting on my Atrix to be delivered so I can move my IP4 back to 2nd / spare phone. where I work is right on the fringe area of 3g signal and i find the Iphone will hold onto 3g and end up dropping calls, when it should let it go and drop to 2g like most phones do when they are in the same place.
Its good to know in your experience the Atrix has better signal and hopefully in a couple hours I'll be able to post the same confirmation. I also have a wifi network close by our office that lappies can see but normally phones dont so will be interesting to see if the Atrix lists it.
Kevin

I would like to also confirm holding it sideways as mentioned really does seem to work! mad.
Jonnym

Tinyk said:
I'm in Devon and just waiting on my Atrix to be delivered so I can move my IP4 back to 2nd / spare phone. where I work is right on the fringe area of 3g signal and i find the Iphone will hold onto 3g and end up dropping calls, when it should let it go and drop to 2g like most phones do when they are in the same place.
Its good to know in your experience the Atrix has better signal and hopefully in a couple hours I'll be able to post the same confirmation. I also have a wifi network close by our office that lappies can see but normally phones dont so will be interesting to see if the Atrix lists it.
Kevin
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Don't take my experience as a all encompassing rule. Where we were there is no 3g at all. My laptop is about the same on seeing the other networks as my Atrix but better at staying connected to them.
Any one had any luck using BTopenzone?

Wifi performance.

I used to own an Atrix and got rid of it because of the Wifi performance and a couple of other minor things. I'm wondering though, if I loaded a custom rom, could it literally improve the Wifi performance?
On my Inspire, the Wifi strength got better when I loaded cm7. Has anyone that's loaded cm7 on their Atrix noticed an improvement in Wifi performance?
I would literally have to hold the Atrix in landscape orientation to pick up signal at work where my iPhone 4 and Inspire can pick it up regularly.
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I'd have to say that your particular phone had a problem. Mine has awesome wifi strength. Way better than my Tilt2 or iPhone 3GS....and way faster since it's "n".

Maybe I should use the term range not performance.
I had 3 different Atrix's and they had the same range and were all dead in the same spots.
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Haven't noticed a difference in roms and wifi performance....
My 3gs hasvway better range then ny ATRIX ... so sad.
Still ... its not an issue since I have pretty good 3g coverage in my area.
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Yes, unfortunately the atrix wifi range isn't that good. I have trouble picking up signal where others do so easily.
I wonder if the antenna is too small... would it be possible to "embed" a wire inside the back cover and connect it to the regular antenna to create a makeshift range extender?
Edit: iI think the phone's radio has influence over wifi reception, but it can only go so far. Might not be 'improveable' as much as we'd like to.

s1mpd1ddy said:
Haven't noticed a difference in roms and wifi performance....
My 3gs hasvway better range then ny ATRIX ... so sad.
Still ... its not an issue since I have pretty good 3g coverage in my area.
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Very sad yes. I work in a lead lined building and have no service whatsoever, I completely rely on Wifi.
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That'd be your particular device's problem. Atrix got best wifi performance IMHO. Very fast and responsive. SpeedTest.net results shows that with the wifi at my home, my XT720 returns a speed of 7~8 Mbps where Atrix always returns 12~16 Mbps of speed.

I'd say the reduction in range is due to the improvement in speed.
My Atrix get's my wifi signal about 20m through 4-5 concrete walls, occasionally I've also noticed it get's it through 3 levels in my apartment building, though I don't have anything else to compare it too.

seh6183 said:
Maybe I should use the term range not performance.
I had 3 different Atrix's and they had the same range and were all dead in the same spots.
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I doubt a ROM will significantly improve the wifi range on the Atrix, more of hardware thing IMO.
Same behavior for me at work too. My old BB 8900 can hold onto the weak wifi signal (around 80-90dbm) better than my Atrix. If I run too much data on wifi on the Atrix, the wifi will throw too many errors and disconnect. I ran logcat to see all of the fun stuff going on to figure this out.
Fortunately work is upgrading the wireless network soon .

There has been several radio firmware packages released since you got rid of yours I think. The latest AT&T one (1.77.30P) definitelly made things better all around for me.
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beatphreek said:
There has been several radio firmware packages released since you got rid of yours I think. The latest AT&T one (1.77.30P) definitelly made things better all around for me.
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I wish there was a way to test this without going out and buying a phone.
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I wish there was a way to test this without going out and buying a phone.
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The new radio helps the range a little vs the radio in 2.2.2 for me. The wifi disconnects less frequently, but it still disconnects from time to time. If you rely solely on wifi it's not worth it IMO.

My wifi is awesome and all I have are access to g routers. Speed and distance.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

gnahc79 said:
The new radio helps the range a little vs the radio in 2.2.2 for me. The wifi disconnects less frequently, but it still disconnects from time to time. If you rely solely on wifi it's not worth it IMO.
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I agree. Thank you for the info.
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[Q] Signal / attenuation issue on the M?

Just wondering if anybody has had any of the issues mentioned in these threads:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/5fb46833c0?page=1
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-razr-m/224018-razr-m-antennagate.html
Mine has been solid, and more solid than the S3 I tested. But it has had a few quirks as well, and I live in a strong 4G area. Makes me wonder if my area wasn't as strong if I would be seeing these issues as well.

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Sorry, had a few XDA windows open and didn't realize I wasn't in Q&A!

I am also very interested in reports of radio/signal performance issues with this phone. I don't have mine yet, but I live and work in an area with extremely poor 3g only coverage and I will be very disappointed if the RF performance is not significantly improved from the first generation chip sets we have on current models.

cellzealot said:
I am also very interested in reports of radio/signal performance issues with this phone. I don't have mine yet, but I live and work in an area with extremely poor 3g only coverage and I will be very disappointed if the RF performance is not significantly improved from the first generation chip sets we have on current models.
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Exactly - that was one of the big reasons I opted for this over something like the Maxx. Heck, wasn't that one of the perks, supposedly, of the S4 chipset? Better and more efficient handling of LTE/3G signals? Obviously that doesn't help with the actual strength/quality of the antenna, but still...

I would appreciate it if more people could weigh in on this. I'm still on the fence about moving to big red for this phone, and if it is confirmed to have signal issues that will make my decision easier. Would especially love to hear from people who already had Verizon : better or worse signal with the M than with your previous phone?
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phositadc said:
I would appreciate it if more people could weigh in on this. I'm still on the fence about moving to big red for this phone, and if it is confirmed to have signal issues that will make my decision easier. Would especially love to hear from people who already had Verizon : better or worse signal with the M than with your previous phone?
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Who are you with currently?
And the fact that nobody is responding much in this thread (or the other linked threads) is probably because #1, not many people have the phone yet, or #2, it's an isolated issue.

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Who are you with currently?
And the fact that nobody is responding much in this thread (or the other linked threads) is probably because #1, not many people have the phone yet, or #2, it's an isolated issue.
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Hoping for #2.
Currently with att. Been waiting forever for a high end phone that's got a small form factor, and I'm not confident we will see any others any time soon. So if this phone simply works as experience expected and isn't plagued with bugs, I will happily jump ship back to big red.
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I used to carry an HTC Thunderbolt and this phone actually pulls better signal than it and the data is faster as well. Signal is no issue at all. Hope that helps
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Hoping for #2.
Currently with att. Been waiting forever for a high end phone that's got a small form factor, and I'm not confident we will see any others any time soon. So if this phone simply works as experience expected and isn't plagued with bugs, I will happily jump ship back to big red.
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Yeah I guess the inherent problem with a thread like this is you won't hear the other side represented. For the most part my signal has been flawless, but I live in a very solid 4G area. I was talking with my wife this morning and the call was very "crackly" - but honestly, her iPhone 4S has been acting funny lately anyway (external speaker randomly not working), so who knows where the problem lied.... lay... whatever.

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Yeah I guess the inherent problem with a thread like this is you won't hear the other side represented. For the most part my signal has been flawless, but I live in a very solid 4G area. I was talking with my wife this morning and the call was very "crackly" - but honestly, her iPhone 4S has been acting funny lately anyway (external speaker randomly not working), so who knows where the problem lied.... lay... whatever.
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And how does the signal compare to your last phone or your wife's phone in dbm?
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And how does the signal compare to your last phone or your wife's phone in dbm?
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Haven't tried to compare that specifically to her iphone, and I don't have my previous phone to compare with. However, it might not be the most accurate test anyway, unless I carried her phone around with me all day, b/c we have a water tower about 100 yards from our house that looks like it has "antennas" for just about every carrier, so my signal strength at home is always top notch.

I'm in the NYC Metro area with strong 4G signal. My prior phone was the RAZR MAXX. I really don't pay much attention to the 3G/4G reading or even the signal bars. That said, I would say this phone spends more time on 3G than I noticed on my prior phone. The Maxx would get hot without use, just in my shirt pocket, as I'd be walking through Manhattan and the battery would show it. It seems that it was continuously searching for or trying to hold a weaker 4G signal - only my guess. I have yet to experience that problem with this phone.
I haven't had any problem making calls with the M, the sound is very loud and clear.

I can chime in with my findings a bit. I just picked up 3 of these phones for our business. Side by side with my Galaxy nexus, the razr m has a couple less bars. If I run a speed test the razr m always has less download speed, but it has a higher upload speed. The ping time is higher on the Razr also. I can't say about call quality till after today though. Now one thing to keep in mind, my gnex has a aosp version of JB and this razr m has the stock ICS. That could make a difference right now. I will try to chime in today on call quality and such later tonight.

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I can chime in with my findings a bit. I just picked up 3 of these phones for our business. Side by side with my Galaxy nexus, the razr m has a couple less bars. If I run a speed test the razr m always has less download speed, but it has a higher upload speed. The ping time is higher on the Razr also. I can't say about call quality till after today though. Now one thing to keep in mind, my gnex has a aosp version of JB and this razr m has the stock ICS. That could make a difference right now. I will try to chime in today on call quality and such later tonight.
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From what I've read about the radios between the devices, the Gnex should have the ability to hit higher speeds than Moto's radios, but the stability/strength is another issue. Interesting that the Gnex is showing more bars, though!

scarydecoy said:
I can chime in with my findings a bit. I just picked up 3 of these phones for our business. Side by side with my Galaxy nexus, the razr m has a couple less bars. If I run a speed test the razr m always has less download speed, but it has a higher upload speed. The ping time is higher on the Razr also. I can't say about call quality till after today though. Now one thing to keep in mind, my gnex has a aosp version of JB and this razr m has the stock ICS. That could make a difference right now. I will try to chime in today on call quality and such later tonight.
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bars don't mean anything. Samsung could set 80dBm to mean 5 bars while Motorola could choose 80dBm to mean 3 bars. Please go into settings and compare the actual signal dBm reading of the M and the gnex!
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and on a side note, wasn't the gnex on Verizon notorious for having a terrible signal? If so, scary that the gnex signal may be better than the M.
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phositadc said:
and on a side note, wasn't the gnex on Verizon notorious for having a terrible signal? If so, scary that the gnex signal may be better than the M.
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Yes, and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that the M is better. The Gnex greatly improved after 4.0.4, and then Jelly Bean - but the M is still much better. The Gnex would actually drop data often, the M's main problem (if you want to even call it a problem yet) is switching to 3G - not dropping data altogether.

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Yes, and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that the M is better. The Gnex greatly improved after 4.0.4, and then Jelly Bean - but the M is still much better. The Gnex would actually drop data often, the M's main problem (if you want to even call it a problem yet) is switching to 3G - not dropping data altogether.
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I'd definitely like to see someone compare actual dBm numbers between the two then.
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I'd definitely like to see someone compare actual dBm numbers between the two then.
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Well the data drop issue was more of a software problem than a dbm issue, if I remember right. Obviously dbm's play a part in what the software is going to do, but still. Software tweaks clearly helped out the Gnex and Bionic in that regard.

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Well the data drop issue was more of a software problem than a dbm issue, if I remember right. Obviously dbm's play a part in what the software is going to do, but still. Software tweaks clearly helped out the Gnex and Bionic in that regard.
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I was limited on time. The razr m doesnt show signal strength in the phone status. I grabbed a app and the M is anywhere from -81 to -70 and the gnex is -86 to -84. I havent had any signal issues on this gnex.. I went through a couple of them though.

[Q] Anyone one else think the radio on the Nexus 4 is sub par?

I've definitely noticed a decrease in service compared to my previous phones, especially the T-Mobile Galaxy SIII. I'm not sure if its poor Radio firmware, or the materials, but it's a noticeable drop. Using a signal booster in my house, I used to get full bars in my bathroom just two rooms away on the GSIII. The Nexus 4 barely gets 1.
Anyone else having issues, and does anyone know if newer radio firmware will be released soon?

feels the same for me, if not better than my galaxy nexus.

Yeah, my connection cuts out quite frequently. It's pretty annoying

jacklebott said:
Yeah, my connection cuts out quite frequently. It's pretty annoying
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I can't really compare how my reception is with my nexus since I am on a new provider, but I did notice something odd with how many bars I have. I assume there is some kind of battery saving function because when I am not really using data I will see 3G, as soon as I use data though it will switch to H. But what I noticed is when I am on 3G I will have like 2 bars service, but when the phone switches over to H I have full or close to it..
Maybe thats normal just thought it was odd?

ogrillion said:
I can't really compare how my reception is with my nexus since I am on a new provider, but I did notice something odd with how many bars I have. I assume there is some kind of battery saving function because when I am not really using data I will see 3G, as soon as I use data though it will switch to H. But what I noticed is when I am on 3G I will have like 2 bars service, but when the phone switches over to H I have full or close to it..
Maybe thats normal just thought it was odd?
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Normal. Saves data. That's how T-mobile does it. Not sure about the bar part, unless it's switching towers for some reason? Ha.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.

Yes it's noticeably worse than any other smartphone I've owned.
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In my case, it's the opposite. It's the best smartphone in terms of service quality. maybe because I'm in Belgium !

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Yes it's noticeably worse than any other smartphone I've owned.
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Weren't you the one that dropped yours in the toilet? If so I don't think you qualify anymore for bug reports
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I seem to be having the same reception problem the iPhone 4 had, namely that when I hold the phone, I lose reception.
Flat on desk: -82dBm
Fingers on either side of phone, still flat on desk: -99dBm.
Is anyone else getting the same phenomenon or is it just me? I wanna do a replacement if it's just me, but if it's something that everyone is experiencing, then I'll live with it.

I notice 2 things, 1) in general the reception is lower (4bars with my sensation/hd2 = 3bars on my n4) but I haven't done any real testing so it could be the bars are incorrect 2) big death grip problem, as soon as I grab the phone the reception drops and can cause a call to drop
For the most part I get good reception but yeah in certain parts of the house the phone is unusable.

I wonder if a simple bumper fix will do
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h.nocturna said:
I seem to be having the same reception problem the iPhone 4 had, namely that when I hold the phone, I lose reception.
Flat on desk: -82dBm
Fingers on either side of phone, still flat on desk: -99dBm.
Is anyone else getting the same phenomenon or is it just me? I wanna do a replacement if it's just me, but if it's something that everyone is experiencing, then I'll live with it.
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Same, going from -77 to -85dBm
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Keep in mind that bars mean nothing. Check the dBm / asu, the lower the better. Over ~110 things get dicey/unusable.
When I had my N4 on AT&T, it got better reception than my Capitvate and Atrix 2. I'm on T-Mobile now, and I'm still experimenting.

strobex said:
I wonder if a simple bumper fix will do
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I have a tpu case on mine and it hasn't made a difference, actually the thing that works for me is switching to 2G + wifi when I'm home and of course 3G when out and about, I just wish nfc task launcher or tasker could access that "toggle" on the stock rom.

Hi
Different phone different reception patterns. No two phones will be exactly the same in terms of their signal strength, you might find an improvement compared to a previous phone, you might find it is worse, most will see no difference and it's very dependant on environment. I've seen no difference personally. Given some time and feedback from various carriers can improve things with radio updates, such as the phone being more or less aggressive in switching between cells, or protocol fixes that help prevent drop outs during higher error rates when the signal is lower and cleaner/quicker hand-off to adjacent cells.
It should be noted the main antenna is at the bottom of the phone like most mobiles these days, so holding it at the bottom cupped in the palm of your hand will see the signal reduce and battery consumption increase as it tries to transmit through flesh. There are diversity antennas towards the top of the phone, but these are for reception only and do not transmit.
A bumper is unlikely to help unless it was extremely large to make the distance between a hand and the antenna several inches! The iPhone was a different issue, it was because the antennas were not insulated and were being de-tuned and shorted by being touched when the phone was held.
Regards
Phil