Captivate getting 2.3 - Vibrant General

According to this article, AT&T promised GB for their entire Android selection. Aren't the Captivate drivers same/similar with Vibrant's?
List of devices getting GB:
HTC Inspire™ 4G
LG Phoenix™
Motorola ATRIX™ 4G
Pantech Crossover™
Samsung Captivate™
Samsung Infuse™ 4G

anilo said:
According to this article, AT&T promised GB for their entire Android selection. Aren't the Captivate drivers same/similar with Vibrant's?
List of devices getting GB:
HTC Inspire™ 4G
LG Phoenix™
Motorola ATRIX™ 4G
Pantech Crossover™
Samsung Captivate™
Samsung Infuse™ 4G
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No, Cappy is most closely related to the i9000. Which is why they've had GPS on Gingerbread for months and months.

Guys, are you 100% sure that the Samfirmware tweeting is true?
you know, I thinked myself about this! We didnt got anything official from Samsung or T-mobile itself.
so i think there is still chance that we can get GB for vibrant
and by the way, I found something here:
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...ead-2-3-3-update-Release-Status-for-Countries
i dunno is this info is right or not but the US still pending.
what do you think about this?

Isn't the NS and Vibrant just about the same phone? Why don't more devs base their ROMs on the NS drivers and stuff? That question may not be the correct question, but I think it's understandable.

laylovj said:
Isn't the NS and Vibrant just about the same phone? Why don't more devs base their ROMs on the NS drivers and stuff? That question may not be the correct question, but I think it's understandable.
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If they were as similar as you're thinking they are, then we would have more roms based from them, but as you can see, there's nothing.
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laylovj said:
Isn't the NS and Vibrant just about the same phone? Why don't more devs base their ROMs on the NS drivers and stuff? That question may not be the correct question, but I think it's understandable.
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While they physically look the same the internals are quite different.
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kiaksar2142 said:
Guys, are you 100% sure that the Samfirmware tweeting is true?
you know, I thinked myself about this! We didnt got anything official from Samsung or T-mobile itself.
so i think there is still chance that we can get GB for vibrant
and by the way, I found something here:
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...ead-2-3-3-update-Release-Status-for-Countries
i dunno is this info is right or not but the US still pending.
what do you think about this?
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T-Mobile nor HTC didn't tweet the T-Mobile G1 wasn't going past Donut and the original myTouch 3G was getting FroYo

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[Q] Froyo on the way?

I just read on Vibrant xda forum that Bhman/Eugene737 just posted a froyo rom on Vibrant yesterday.Does that mean Epic devs bout to have a port for us?
Check out the Vibrant xda section they have youtube video,rom gets 13 on Quadrant.
That would be ridiculous if it was made for the epic, the epic is vastly different from the other SGS phones
thomasskull666 said:
That would be ridiculous if it was made for the epic, the epic is vastly different from the other SGS phones
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Is it that different?You saying that we can't have 2.2 ported minus physical keyboard,frnt camera and flash not working?Besides those things and different file system it is identical phone aint it?
lviv73 said:
Is it that different?
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Let see, physical keyboard, front camera, flash, file system, CDMA radio (Vibrant has a GSM radio), 4G radio. Yeah not different at all.
lviv73 said:
Besides those things and different file system it is identical phone aint it?
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Well they both have an AMOLED screen and the Hummingbird processor...
Even if you were to get the Vibrant rom running on the Epic (after taking into account the differences in the file system) the phone would still be unusable. The Vibrant uses a different radio for phone calls, and data (3 and 4 G). So it would be pretty much useless as a phone.
When it comes down to it, this is still a galaxy s phone. But I don't think we should get excited until we see a port onto the fascinate, which is like the only other cdma galaxy s but more intune with the international version
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A_Flying_Fox said:
When it comes down to it, this is still a galaxy s phone. But I don't think we should get excited until we see a port onto the fascinate, which is like the only other cdma galaxy s but more intune with the international version
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When it comes down to it they are both phones so I'm hoping for froyo and iOS being ported early next week
Moved to general as not development.
Please do not make new threads in development to ask questions
A_Flying_Fox said:
When it comes down to it, this is still a galaxy s phone. But I don't think we should get excited until we see a port onto the fascinate, which is like the only other cdma galaxy s but more intune with the international version
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Agreed, CDMA is definitely the kicker as we have no way of getting that from a vibrant port. Other than that it isn't that ridiculously complicated to port it to our phone so yes once we see the fascinate get it then we will be on a roll.
Iz it almust HERE yetz!? giggity giggity.
.....Sigh*
blulitespecial said:
Iz it almust HERE yetz!? giggity giggity.
.....Sigh*
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Seems like we don't have much longer to wait.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/samsung-comes-clean-with-galaxy-s-froyo-upgrade-dates-all-carri/
But then again... Who knows?
end of November.” now
Late last week, Samsung announced that the Froyo or Android 2.2 update would finally be coming to the Galaxy S smartphone this week.
It seems that this won’t be the case, however, as the firm has issued an update via its official Twitter channel.
Samsung tweeted: “The Froyo upgrade will be available in the UK from early November and we expect all operator versions to be available by the end of November.”
So, early November could mean two to three more weeks before it lands on Kies, the company’s own Windows based upgrade platform, with operators pushing it out after that. The cause of the delay is unknown.
The Froyo update will bring a number of new features to the very popular Galaxy S, including a speed boost, full Flash support and device tethering, along with Google Maps GPS navigation plus voice guidance.
toon_nufc said:
It seems that this won’t be the case, however, as the firm has issued an update via its official Twitter channel.
Samsung tweeted: “The Froyo upgrade will be available in the UK from early November and we expect all operator versions to be available by the end of November.”
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That is Samsun'g official Twitter channel for the U.K. That timing corresponds to a new press release from Samsung for the U.K. The "all operators" referred to, quite obviously, are the telecom operators in that market.
The corresponinding Twitter site for the U.S. says there is no ETA yet.
And the earlier announcemetn you mentioned was also about overseas markets.
harrybozack said:
When it comes down to it they are both phones so I'm hoping for froyo and iOS being ported early next week
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Hold up,iOS port?iOS port for what phone?Its closed source so i doubt it be ported,but it would be nice.
Sadly, I just heard from my Sprint insider not to expect Froyo on the Epic until mid-late December.
infamousjax said:
Sadly, I just heard from my Sprint insider not to expect Froyo on the Epic until mid-late December.
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That is the suck. waaaaahhhhh! (crying)
well noobnl has froyo working with the radio so we should see a cyanogized epic release soon
bobdude5 said:
well noobnl has froyo working with the radio so we should see a cyanogized epic release soon
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lol sure buddy!
noobnl is still working on the data, sensors, gps... he has the radio interface layer working, but idk if thats the same as saying the radio is working

Gingerbread instead of froyo?

hey guys what if the reason we haven't got our froyo is because e are getting gingerbread instead? Google just announced that gingerbread is filly cooked and that is planning to released ASAP.
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drago009 said:
hey guys what if the reason we haven't got our froyo is because e are getting gingerbread instead? Google just announced that gingerbread is filly cooked and that is planning to released ASAP.
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No, we're getting Froyo ... beta has already leaked if you haven't noticed. Official version from Samsung / Sprint should be out sometime in the near future. Don't get your hopes up with Gingerbread because we won't see that on the Epics for quite a while.
Yep. Like I said in the froyo leak forum, any person phone-geeky enough to be hanging out in XDA will probably have a different phone by the time Gingerbread hits the Epic.
However someone did make a good point in that the Nexus S will have gingerbread and since that's a Galaxy S phone it will hopefully be easy to port over to the Epic.
jirafabo said:
Yep. Like I said in the froyo leak forum, any person phone-geeky enough to be hanging out in XDA will probably have a different phone by the time Gingerbread hits the Epic.
However someone did make a good point in that the Nexus S will have gingerbread and since that's a Galaxy S phone it will hopefully be easy to port over to the Epic.
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That was me who said that, and I haven't yet seen anyone argue that it wouldn't be possible....
While the coming update is undoubtedly Froyo, I think it's only a matter of time before we'll have 2.3. Considering the new Nexus is the "Nexus S" from Samsung and looks to basically be another Galaxy S variant, I think ports will happen.
The Nexus S is not a CDMA phone so the port will take a bit or time, unless the 2.2 kernel works out of the box with 2.3.
It's possible but don't expect instant gratification.
Also shouldn't this be in general?
cicada said:
The Nexus S is not a CDMA phone so the port will take a bit or time, unless the 2.2 kernel works out of the box with 2.3.
It's possible but don't expect instant gratification.
Also shouldn't this be in general?
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Yeah it should, and I don't think anyone was saying we could just dump Nexus S and throw it on our phones.
odub303 said:
That was me who said that, and I haven't yet seen anyone argue that it wouldn't be possible....
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It won't be so easy if the dual core rumors are true
bobdude5 said:
It won't be so easy if the dual core rumors are true
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assuming they write the code for a dual core too I'd be willing to bet the first dual core phones won't be coded for it
Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
I saw that too.
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Muckrak3r said:
Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
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Gingerbread is 2.3. I guess the updates don't merit the 3.0 label.
Muckrak3r said:
Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
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The Goog has 'officially' said Gingerbread will be 2.3
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The Goog has 'officially' said Gingerbread will be 2.3
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Honeycomb is going to be 3.0
Epic experience + Phoenix kernel + Emotionless beast = Great functionality, Exceptional battery life, and Sweet eye candy.
2.3 would have to be released to the devs at the handset manufacturers so they could customize it for their phones (load it with their crap bloatware, custom interface, etc.....). As we have seen, that takes time (2.2 has been out for a while now). If we were to see 2.3, it would probably be 6 months from now, about the time 2.4 or 3.0 (they should call it Poundcake.....good name, and good Van Halen song) is coming out.
I don't think our handsets will ever see 2.3 at this rate. It will be another year into the future before we see it, and by then our phones won't even be powerful enough to make phone calls.
Oh we will definitely see 2.3 on the epic even if it has to be unofficially brought to us ;-)
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odub303 said:
That was me who said that, and I haven't yet seen anyone argue that it wouldn't be possible....
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This is exactly why I am so excited about the Nexus S. In the same way that the Nexus One gave the Incredible, the Evo 4G and the other HTC devices amazing hacking potential, the Nexus S will make our Galaxy S phones way way better.
More developers will be working on this platform, and we will have all the google stuff working on hardware that is 99% the same. Really, the only thing different will be the CDMA/4G radios, but that is just minor stuff since that is the only difference between the Nexus One and the Evo. Also, the Epic Experience ROM is full of stuff taken off of other Galaxy S devices and it all works great.
Also, I'm going to say that this phone is not dual core. It might have a 1.2ghz hummingbird, but thats the only thing that might be different. It might also have some filesystem stuff that is different but we can hack around all of that. Hopefully it is using the same GPS chip though, because Google will then really light a fire under Samsung to make sure they fix it once and for all.
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Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
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Nope, it has been revealed that Gingerbread is 2.3 (which is allegedly coming to the Nexus One in a matter of days); it is speculated that Honeycomb will be 3.0
nimaim said:
Don't get your hopes up with Gingerbread because we won't see that on the Epics for quite a while.
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My money is on never seeing 2.3
I love my Epic... I'm just pretty sure 2.2 will be our only upgrade
snowmanwithahat said:
My money is on never seeing 2.3
I love my Epic... I'm just pretty sure 2.2 will be our only upgrade
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Absolutely no way that we don't get gingerbread. The epic is sprints flagship android phone, not to mention samsungs.
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Galaxy S Gingerbread update soon. Due at end of March!

According to Android Central: http://www.androidcentral.com/european-galaxy-s-gingerbread-update-coming-end-march
Link to Samsung Romania post: http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileRomania/posts/189412624430604
A post on Samsung Mobile Romania's Facebook page seems to suggest that Romanian Galaxy S phones (and presumably other European models) may see an official update to Android 2.3 Gingerbread by the end of March.
Translated into English and cleaned up a little, the post reads:
"The update to version 2.2.1 for Galaxy S will be available until 20 March, and Gingerbread (2.3) until the end of the month."
Our Romanian is a little rusty, but we think it's safe to assume the last part of that statement means either "it'll arrive by the end of the month", or "it won't arrive until the end of the month". Either way, it looks like the European Galaxy S could soon claim bragging rights as the first non-Nexus phone to get an official Gingerbread update. HTC has announced that Gingerbread will be coming to some of its older phones, but these updates aren't due until sometime in the second quarter.
Samsung Romania also adds that two of its budget phones, the i5500 Galaxy 5 and i5800 Galaxy 3, will be updated to Froyo by Mar. 20 and Mar. 31 respectively. [Samsung Romania Facebook via Crave]
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still doesn't help us with key mapping because it's not source.
But good to hear either way.
for Europe
geoffcorey said:
still doesn't help us with key mapping because it's not source.
But good to hear either way.
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There are ways around it. Whitehawk has everything working properly except GPS in the Gingerbread leak we had
Emama said:
for Europe
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Yeah but now the we have that universal kernel, isn't good news for any Galaxy S variant good news for us as well?
thegreatcity said:
Yeah but now the we have that universal kernel, isn't good news for any Galaxy S variant good news for us as well?
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The universal kernel is for 2.2 and 2.2.1 ROMs only.
Also, it's not a universal kernel, it's a universal settings.apk that's been fixed for us.
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geoffcorey said:
still doesn't help us with key mapping because it's not source.
But good to hear either way.
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Doesn't matter, it means there is a good chance that we will get it, but probably not till 2050
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zer0nine said:
According to Android Central: http://www.androidcentral.com/european-galaxy-s-gingerbread-update-coming-end-march
Link to Samsung Romania post: http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileRomania/posts/189412624430604
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That's great and all - really it is. But didn't the first Froyo releases already come out in Europe by September? Yet the Vibrant didn't get Froyo for another 4 months...
so what this means is... a year till we get gingerbread?
reuthermonkey said:
That's great and all - really it is. But didn't the first Froyo releases already come out in Europe by September? Yet the Vibrant didn't get Froyo for another 4 months...
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I don't really know the history of the Vibrant, (Picked it up off Craigslist 2 months ago) but this at least gives me some hope.
God, getting Gingerbread on the Vibrant would be AMAZING. It would increase the speed, and once the source is released, we would see some awesome gingerbread ROM's for it.
Just one gingerbread leak for vibrant, then we will be back in business.
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iynfynity said:
Just one gingerbread leak for vibrant, then we will be back in business.
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Seriously. All they need is the driver sources + the kernel and CM7 would become amazing.
Hopefully somebody will be able to port it quickly if T-Mobile foes not roll out the rom in the same timeframe...
Tmobile said they would be more up to speed on updates. Take that for what you want it to mean.
That is all I gotta say about this subject.
ELStiko said:
Tmobile said they would be more up to speed on updates. Take that for what you want it to mean.
That is all I gotta say about this subject.
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+1. This was released by T-mo after 2.2 was released on kies for the vibrant. So hopefully we'll get gingerbread alot faster than froyo. And hopefully the first of the U.S galaxy S phones to be updated again.
If the Vibrant gets an official Gingerbread update EVER I will buy a Galaxy Tab immediately.
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No gingerbread leaks yet?

Did samsung forget about us? The epic, capivate, and even the facinate have gingerbread leaks. The fricken facinate(the bing phone). http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...inate-now-available-for-download-and-install/
I kind of have a theory of my own.
T-Mobile just decided to drop the Vibrant, and update the GS4G to GB, and forget us.
It's most likely not true, and they could easily be building it now, but this is what I think, and if it's true.... then damn.
At this point I'm surprised we haven't seen a leak yet, I think the Epic is on its third leak. Makes me wonder why, unless its next to leak.
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T-Mobile can't be the blame anymore. When froyo was released to us it wasn't an ota, it was thru klies which is Samsungs update software. I don't understand how T-Mobile can be blamed anymore. The leaks for the captivate, fasinate and sgs4g were from Samsung. Not the carriers of those phones. Tho they did include the carrier bloat ware. So maybe I'm wrong. I just want a dang leak for us vibrant owners.
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eminembdg said:
T-Mobile can't be the blame anymore. When froyo was released to us it wasn't an ota, it was thru klies which is Samsungs update software. I don't understand how T-Mobile can be blamed anymore. The leaks for the captivate, fasinate and sgs4g were from Samsung. Not the carriers of those phones. Tho they did include the carrier bloat ware. So maybe I'm wrong. I just want a dang leak for us vibrant owners.
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sgs4g has all standard tmo bloatware
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birgertime said:
sgs4g has all standard tmo bloatware
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Right. That's what I've read.
We should have a leak for vibrants, not gigantic difference between sgs4g and our vibrants, correct?
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Longcat14 said:
I kind of have a theory of my own.
T-Mobile just decided to drop the Vibrant, and update the GS4G to GB, and forget us.
It's most likely not true, and they could easily be building it now, but this is what I think, and if it's true.... then damn.
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Your half right, the missing part is they see no reason to update last years phones now that there is a possibility of buy out.
But I could be totally wrong about that.
eminembdg said:
Right. That's what I've read.
We should have a leak for vibrants, not gigantic difference between sgs4g and our vibrants, correct?
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Nope there are several differences including a different GPS/WIFI chip. This was discussed in detail and breakdowns showed the differences. I think you can probably still pull up the breakdown pics with the phones setting side by side.
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Nope there are several differences including a different GPS/WIFI chip. This was discussed in detail and breakdowns showed the differences. I think you can probably still pull up the breakdown pics with the phones setting side by side.
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Oh OK. I've never seen that comparison or breakdown. Still doesn't explain captivate and fascinate leak. They are pretty much same phone as vibrants
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there's a leak on samfirware but krylon said do not flash it.
eminembdg said:
Oh OK. I've never seen that comparison or breakdown. Still doesn't explain captivate and fascinate leak. They are pretty much same phone as vibrants
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The Fascinate isn't GSM, which (if I remember correctly) makes a very big difference.
InversedTech said:
The Fascinate isn't GSM, which (if I remember correctly) makes a very big difference.
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That's network. Not GPS chip, not what is being discussed at all.
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dligon said:
there's a leak on samfirware but krylon said do not flash it.
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No, thats for the Galaxy S 4G. Model T959V....ours for the Galaxy S Vibrant is T959.
krazie1 said:
No, thats for the Galaxy S 4G. Model T959V....ours for the Galaxy S Vibrant is T959.
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Lol you beat me to it. Was just going to say that
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Nope there are several differences including a different GPS/WIFI chip. This was discussed in detail and breakdowns showed the differences. I think you can probably still pull up the breakdown pics with the phones setting side by side.
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GPS chip is the same.
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eminembdg said:
Lol you beat me to it. Was just going to say that
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that's true but for people who just flash and dont read carefully they may try and flash it and screw up their vibrant.
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GPS chip is the same.
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are you sure?
I understand that GPS is broken on CM7 because there are no drivers. And when people said to use the drivers from the galaxy 4g they said no go because the drivers are different due to different chips in the two units. Plus there are pics, or where because I cannot find them now, that showed two different chips. Samsung moved away from the erricson chip because of all the issues with GPS on the SGS line.
I was wondering about this the other day, it is indeed frustrating.
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are you sure?
I understand that GPS is broken on CM7 because there are no drivers. And when people said to use the drivers from the galaxy 4g they said no go because the drivers are different due to different chips in the two units. Plus there are pics, or where because I cannot find them now, that showed two different chips. Samsung moved away from the erricson chip because of all the issues with GPS on the SGS line.
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the gps is the same between the vibrant and sgs4g, that's why there are now gingerbread roms with gps (since the sgs4g gb leak).
cm7 is different, it has no samsung software, so in order to use the gps drivers from the sgs4g they need to insert a layer of abstraction (a wrapper) to try and use gps drivers. otherwise, for all samsung based roms, the gps is tightly coupled with tw. if we had the source for the gps drivers, it would be much easier and would likely be working by now.
SGS4G & Vibrant are not the same, which is why our GPS isn't 100%, only half-assed

2.3.5 coming?

samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/8830330-android-2-3-5-for-infuse-and-galaxy-s-4g-
Saw this on samfirmware.com - hoping to see sprint release soon. Any ideas when?
joshag said:
samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/8830330-android-2-3-5-for-infuse-and-galaxy-s-4g-
Saw this on samfirmware.com - hoping to see sprint release soon. Any ideas when?
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That's not us. The Galaxy S 4G is not the Epic 4G. Two different phones.
Galaxy S 4G is a T-Mobile variant of the Galaxy S line, just like the Epic 4G is Sprint's variant. But as the post above mine points out, they are two different phones so that update doesn't pertain to our phone.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=Samsung-Galaxy-S-4G
what the @#@[email protected] why are all other phoones including samsung's getting updated and we are still stuck on froyo???
Do you guys not know which phone you guys own?...
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ac16313 said:
Do you guys not know which phone you guys own?...
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Don't we all own the iPhone 8 with Holographic keypad? Damn... I think I'm in the wrong forums. (bored in class, nothing bad meant by this comment ^_^ )
hardrock121 said:
what the @#@[email protected] why are all other phoones including samsung's getting updated and we are still stuck on froyo???
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If I remember correctly T-Mobile got Froyo just a week or two ahead of Sprint after the EB13 recall. Then Verizon with AT&T pulling up the rear. So this may be a good sign we will get GB soon.

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