You guys are no fun. Being on here for my epic increases my stress levels. With robs leaving.. I felt I had to speak out. While I'm at it, I know you forum rentacops are gonna respond to this with off topic blah blah blah. Hey check this out. its because of people like you that this place feels like going to someones house you don't really like. This is a damn community. Have you idiots never been part of any other forums?? Because I have. And I've never been part of one with so many pricks that would rather burst someones bubble than skip past a thread or contribute to it. Its a damn forum and I doubt any of you even click past page 4 everyday. Every thread you post in you can easily get to with recent posts. So why even go into a thread you would have otherwise skipped? In the end the only posters left will be the trolls and rentacops with no devs left. Because everyone hates you. When that time comes, have fun holding hands together. Douchebags.
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I'm with you on this one!
Thank you Rush!
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U know what's funny when we need mods ..........they r no where to b found .......
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Maybe the mods aren't as uptight about the forum like some of these people. These are the same type of people you would hate to work with. Its a forum. A way for people with the same interest to communicate no matter what the topic be. I've made friends on so many forums. Its because of nonsense forums that people come together. When off topic discussions bring out people who would rather have a bit of fun than be buzz killingtons. Wouldnt you all rather be friends than bickering fools? This epic forum is dying.. if more of us came together who knows.. WE the posters and lurkers could pick up in development where they left off. But no.. its all about saying screw you, your post doesn't belong here.
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Maybe the mods aren't as uptight about the forum like some of these people. These are the same type of people you would hate to work with. Its a forum. A way for people with the same interest to communicate no matter what the topic be. I've made friends on so many forums. Its because of nonsense forums that people come together. When off topic discussions bring out people who would rather have a bit of fun than be buzz killingtons. Wouldnt you all rather be friends than bickering fools? This epic forum is dying.. if more of us came together who knows.. WE the posters and lurkers could pick up in development where they left off. But no.. its all about saying screw you, your post doesn't belong here.
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You guys are no fun. Being on here for my epic increases my stress levels. With robs leaving.. I felt I had to speak out. While I'm at it, I know you forum rentacops are gonna respond to this with off topic blah blah blah. Hey check this out. its because of people like you that this place feels like going to someones house you don't really like. This is a damn community. Have you idiots never been part of any other forums?? Because I have. And I've never been part of one with so many pricks that would rather burst someones bubble than skip past a thread or contribute to it. Its a damn forum and I doubt any of you even click past page 4 everyday. Every thread you post in you can easily get to with recent posts. So why even go into a thread you would have otherwise skipped? In the end the only posters left will be the trolls and rentacops with no devs left. Because everyone hates you. When that time comes, have fun holding hands together. Douchebags.
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CHEERS!!!! +1
I am willing to bet that my son is older than most of the idiot wannabe mods causing issues. I was actually in a post yesterday where someone asked a question in Q&A and got slapped for not asking the question in the app/rom thread. This is starting to get very discouraging. To many people running amuck. I actually sent a email this morning suggesting that each section for the forums should have there own "off topic" then maybe some of this BS might stop. I also asked if they like the idea and implement it to move ptfmedic's thread to it and sticky it. I for one don't even go to the main page no need.
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Lol I used to be in a atv forum and it was so bad they made a "*****" section and if you were a troll you could only post in I the "*****" section it was pretty funny watching people say "f u I'm leaving" when that's what we wanted
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I'm no self proclaimed mod.
But this was and still is a developers' forum.
Not a social forum.
So it shouldn't be that hard to understand why some people are rude when you post banter, not substance.
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Here we have people that we have never seen on here before that are reporting things as being "off topic" or "against the rules" that have been going on for ages and it is just the regulars here sharing with each other. But because we are in a down period as we wait for Gingerbread, and these dummies have nothing else to occupy themselves with, they think it must be all this off topic stuff holding back a new rom or theme coming out. But what they are doing is driving off anyone who has actually ever contributed anything and making certain that by the time Gingerbread drops there won't be anyone left, with the knowledge to contribute something great, who's willing to put up with the shenanigans of these fools.
They are too self involved to realize that the people that make this great software and mods that we use only do it to be a part of this community, and to chat and share and learn from each other. The fact that some random person can come in and benefit from their work is a side effect, not the main intent of their hard work!
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I'm no self proclaimed mod.
But this was and still is a developers' forum.
Not a social forum.
So it shouldn't be that hard to understand why some people are rude when you post banter, not substance.
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I think you may be wrong. If XDA was purely a developer forum, we'd have no reason for separate 'Development' and 'General' areas.
Like it or not, the mallcop wannabes lurking about can't pray to their personal unicorns and wish away the fact that XDA has grown into an ENTHUSIAST community, and general, unorganized discussion is a healthy way to foster friendly, casual relationships between regular visitors.
Dev or not.
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Originally Posted by squshy 7 *
I'm no self proclaimed mod.
But this was and still is a developers' forum.
Not a social forum.
So it shouldn't be that hard to understand why some people are rude when you post banter, not substance.
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There is a development section of the Epic forums. Maybe your time would be best spent there and not in the general section.
I completely understand that this is a development forum and we come here to read about android development. At the same time, the people that are contributing to the development section so far have been the people everyone's pissing off and booting/influencing to leave.
If a marine came back from IRAQ and ended up on CNN and said he's just glad to be back because he has a kid with AIDS at home and really needs to take care of him and would like to give everyone a site to check out childwithAIDSawareness. How surprised would you be if the news caster turned and say "whoa, let me stop you right there, these people tuned in to hear about the war, not your sick kid."
/NB4L
I think the problem with XDA, is demonstrated nicely with this comment:
squshy 7 said:
But this was and still is a developers' forum.
Not a social forum.
So it shouldn't be that hard to understand why some people are rude when you post banter, not substance.
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I completely understand that this is a development forum and we come here to read about android development. At the same time, the people that are contributing to the development section so far have been the people everyone's pissing off and booting/influencing to leave.
If a marine came back from IRAQ and ended up on CNN and said he's just glad to be back because he has a kid with AIDS at home and really needs to take care of him and would like to give everyone a site to check out childwithAIDSawareness. How surprised would you be if the news caster turned and say "whoa, let me stop you right there, these people tuned in to hear about the war, not your sick kid."
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That example is a terrible fit for this situation. People posting about things not related to the epic aren't doing anything special for anyone. They are wasting XDA bandwidth and burying actual useful threads.
The best comparison would be if Casey Anthony went on the news to tell her side of the story and spent the entire time trying to advertise her book/movie/insert self indulging greed.
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That example is a terrible fit for this situation. People posting about things not related to the epic aren't doing anything special for anyone. They are wasting XDA bandwidth and burying actual useful threads.
The best comparison would be if Casey Anthony went on the news to tell her side of the story and spent the entire time trying to advertise her book/movie/insert self indulging greed.
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An attitude like that could come back to bite you someday.
Bandwidth? Really??? Collectively all of the content in this subforum's entire front page takes up 10mb at most.
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That example is a terrible fit for this situation. People posting about things not related to the epic aren't doing anything special for anyone. They are wasting XDA bandwidth and burying actual useful threads.
The best comparison would be if Casey Anthony went on the news to tell her side of the story and spent the entire time trying to advertise her book/movie/insert self indulging greed.
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This whole thread is unrelated to the epic dude.
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This whole thread is unrelated to the epic dude.
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You don't think I realize that? That I also don't realize that no matter what I say about it being against the rules and having no relation to these forums you won't be convinced you're doing something wrong? I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
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You don't think I realize that? That I also don't realize that no matter what I say about it being against the rules and having no relation to these forums you won't be convinced you're doing something wrong? I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
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All I'm saying is at least the guy contributed something other than *****ing about other people. We have a bunch of these threads burying perfectly great "on topic" threads that are just as against the rules as his... And here they sit.
Only non of you develop for us.
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Greetings! Actually, im very angry and shouldnt be nice for an introduction, sorry devs this is focused more towards "Everyone else"! Here we go....
LISTEN UP EVERYONE RIGHT NOW!!!! I have been a long time fan and supporter of xda and the devlopers that make it what it is. One thing i have NOT been a fan of is the fact that XDA allows end users to post on the forums! A good alternative would simply to only allow a very basic bug report.
The same respect the site gives to us to simply post whatever we want has started to get taken advantage of and has been misused for TOO LONG!!
WE ARE LOSING OUR DEVELOPERS TO YOUR, YES YOUR, FLAMING OF OTHERS, POSTING ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS POSTING AND QUESTIONS!!
What does that mean for us? IT MEANS NO DEVLOPERS, NO CUSTOM ROMS OR APPS....NO XDA!!!! We will be limited to live on the carriers and manufacturers ROMs and timeline!!!!!
All devs,moderators and admins.....this message NEEDS to be heard by EVERYONE on EVERY device forum!! The people here who actually care about your work cant lose you guys!
Wrong section
This is for developing for the Vibrant.
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Right, there are no modified ROMs at all on this board................... Go away boy.
are you drunk?
WTF? Really? Your idea to fix the issue to feel exists is to improperly post that which could easily be seen as inflammatory in what is supposed to be a development thread? I'm sure your post will meet with much positive response.
I second the question.. You drunk?
You gotta be high. That felt a while lot like when stoned hippies tell you the solutions to the world's problems.
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Wrong section. But he does have a point, too many people are *****ing in these dev threads.
In the words of Rodney King, cant we all just get along?
What's next, a manifesto?
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First off, try posting in the correct forum. This is the Vibrant Development forum.
2nd, if people don't like it here they don't have to read or post here. It's that simple.
Have a nice day.
Moved to general as this does not pertain to development.
I recently wrote this article for the homepage on XDA: http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
Recommending less Blow and more Ludes. Also, Stewing...your thread is spamish to begin with as the subject line gives no clue about the body, ehem, Complaint.
Misleading subject line but he does make a point though it may be exaggerated a bit. Unfortunately the problem is stupid doesn't know it's stupid.
Arent you like the rest? Making another useless thread in the wrong section in the first place. Also writing in caps doesnt make it more important, it makes you look that your craving for attention
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Don't all developers pretty much receive treatment like this? By that I mean in any market, not just cell phones.
There are always jackasses that complain about everything, and the people that love and appreciate all their hard work pretty much go unnoticed compared to the unhappy obnoxious ones.
Its a reflection of society in general where we tend to focus on the bad instead of the good. The people who appreciate and respect devs are out there, they just aren't as loud and annoying as everyone else who has a huge sense of entitlement and zero patience.
Trying to change their behavior seems pretty impossible short if banning them, which also seems improbable.
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Developers like the flaming and the trolling, its what gives us a smile everyday.. duh... without it we would just be angry drunks who play with computers and phones.
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Developers like the flaming and the trolling, its what gives us a smile everyday.. duh... without it we would just be angry drunks who play with computers and phones.
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You sir are a TROLL, ye must be banned this instant.
stewiegx420 said:
Greetings! Actually, im very angry and shouldnt be nice for an introduction, sorry devs this is focused more towards "Everyone else"! Here we go....
LISTEN UP EVERYONE RIGHT NOW!!!! I have been a long time fan and supporter of xda and the devlopers that make it what it is. One thing i have NOT been a fan of is the fact that XDA allows end users to post on the forums! A good alternative would simply to only allow a very basic bug report.
The same respect the site gives to us to simply post whatever we want has started to get taken advantage of and has been misused for TOO LONG!!
WE ARE LOSING OUR DEVELOPERS TO YOUR, YES YOUR, FLAMING OF OTHERS, POSTING ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS POSTING AND QUESTIONS!!
What does that mean for us? IT MEANS NO DEVLOPERS, NO CUSTOM ROMS OR APPS....NO XDA!!!! We will be limited to live on the carriers and manufacturers ROMs and timeline!!!!!
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I'm with everyone else, this thread was not necessary, put your energy elsewhere.
I find it funny that he posted this topic in the Dev section talking about how people post about crap not related to development. Way to go. You deserve a cookie.
stewiegx420 said:
Greetings! Actually, im very angry and shouldnt be nice for an introduction, sorry devs this is focused more towards "Everyone else"! Here we go....
LISTEN UP EVERYONE RIGHT NOW!!!! I have been a long time fan and supporter of xda and the devlopers that make it what it is. One thing i have NOT been a fan of is the fact that XDA allows end users to post on the forums! A good alternative would simply to only allow a very basic bug report.
The same respect the site gives to us to simply post whatever we want has started to get taken advantage of and has been misused for TOO LONG!!
WE ARE LOSING OUR DEVELOPERS TO YOUR, YES YOUR, FLAMING OF OTHERS, POSTING ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS POSTING AND QUESTIONS!!
What does that mean for us? IT MEANS NO DEVLOPERS, NO CUSTOM ROMS OR APPS....NO XDA!!!! We will be limited to live on the carriers and manufacturers ROMs and timeline!!!!!
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did your wife just yell at you or something!
We seriously need to calm down and post in a civilized manner. I see far too many immature and unnecessary posts that only flame at other posts. There is no reason to tell someone they're stupid for posting something from an ignorant's perspective. If they don't know and they're asking, then politely point them in the right direction. No need to bash on them. Granted, there are some pretty stupid/idiotic questions asked here (some intended for trolling) but still, DONT FEED THE FIRE. Let it go, calm down, and post like they are right in front of you. DONT HIDE BEHIND THE INTERNET TO GET AWAY WITH DISRESPECTING OTHERS! It seriously gets old fast. Act like adults please!
/endrant
Overall, I agree with you. But.. is there really a need to start a new thread about some **** that already has five other threads on the front page?
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Overall, I agree with you. But.. is there really a need to start a new thread about some **** that already has five other threads on the front page?
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i see nowhere on the general section (which, this kind of topic would be under) where this topic is mentioned. Because apparently, it seems like the Epic forums are filled with little high schoolers who think swearing is cool. Because honestly, it isn't.
BUT, if there is a thread requesting others to be more civilized, then I apologize.
Not this topic, but other topics. Sorry, I should've worded it differently.
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+1. This forum has become unwelcoming and almost frightening to post a question within. People around these parts need to chill out.
ONe of the best threads I've read in a while. There are a lot of times where I see people as a question and instead of getting a simple answer they get a bash from someone. We all need to understand that nit everyone knows the same thing. What may be a dumb question to you is not to the op and other people that need to know too. If you have nothing better to do then flame people for their questions don't come on here. Go somewhere else. We obviously dont need you. Thanks
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Overall, I agree with you. But.. is there really a need to start a new thread about some **** that already has five other threads on the front page?
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i c wut u did der
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I totally agree with you. I know if ii ask any question and any little highschool or immature brat insults me. Don't go crying to the mods about me handing your ass to you on a wooden plate. So kids let's be nice and remember what we were taught in kindergarden "the golden rule".
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Replies are always "wow. You should've searched." Um...the xda app doesn't search. It fc's. And also, whosdaman likes to close general threads about people that wanna know thins about froyo or any other "GENERAL" question.
Not everyone is on these forums 24/7 to be knowing that updates that were announced weeks ago were suddenly canceled.
Not everyone is tech savvy enough to use odin.
Not everyone undertsands the differences between dk28 and di18.
If you're gonna respond by telling someone they should search before posting, why not give them a link to follow leading them to the appropriate thread? That way they can see "oh crap. I should search next time, cuz that's what I was looking for." Assuming they're not on the app, ofcourse.
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And sometimes you follow the instructions and it just won't work for you. (I know, I couldn't get odin to work for me until I used a different cable.) I had lots of help down to step by step instructions. Without the help, I would still have a dead Epic.
I also second keeping thing civil. If we don't we will chase away a lot of good people and information.
George
I agree with the OP every bit.
And besides, at one point even the most tech savvy people were noobs. Everyone had to start somewhere, and asking questions is a good way to learn. Now the pointless questions are about the "delayed" updates Samsung promises. Although, there is no point to get into that once again. The search feature on the XDA app doesn't work, which is also not helpful to new members at all. I agree, just point them in the right direction, and move on, without the snotty attitude. It really isn't that difficult.
I'll be honest, I'm only 14, and I know better than to be rude or swear on the internet when someone isn't familiar with something new.
EDIT: woohoo, svetius fixed it... no more "IPHONE" at the top of XDA!!!
Consider this a rant.
I ALWAYS come here to help XDA and our community. I don't believe anyone would doubt that.
I make one thread *HERE* where I comment on not liking the IPHONE FORUMS button at the top...
In there I inquire about having an ANDROID ONLY forum and a MICROSOFT ONLY forum... seems like XDA is getting too big anyway....
I then encourage people to donate to XDA (Like I have)....
and then I get called a troll by some mod I dont know, and my thread gets locked?
Forgive me for helping people here everyday.
Forgive me for encouraging donations to XDA.
Forgive me for not enjoying looking at IPHONE everytime I post about ANDROID.
Forgive me for having an idea to split XDA up into sister sites (like you are doing).
Forgive me FOR BEING A TROLL... that part is laugable. Being called a troll was probably the spark that caused this rant.
/rant
Consider me taking an extended break from XDA... if you need help PM me. I will still be lurking in the Dev section. Or trolling I guess?
Dude take a chill pill!
I was called a troll by the very group I was supporting....
I've never found the mods on here to be helpful.
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read between the lines. He wasn't calling you in general a troll. Notice how he stated "I wished threads like this remained civilized"? That means responses within the topic where troll topics, or troll bait.
Manstruation.
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I was called a troll by the very group I was supporting....
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I'm obviously new here but this does seem a bit counter productive of the forums to do. This rant has more behind it than being a "troll" and by the sounds of it the anger is founded.
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you are forgiven.
I'm sympathetic to you, but it's really the wrong place for such a thread. If you seriously hate seeing the word "iPhone" so much, why would you start a thread in Vibrant General about the iPhone?
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read between the lines. He wasn't calling you in general a troll. Notice how he stated "I wished threads like this remained civilized"? That means responses within the topic where troll topics, or troll bait.
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to be fair to the op, the mod originally said "obvious troll is obvious". Then he post was edited reopened and moved.
S15274N seriously helps TONS of people and goes above and beyond to contribute. Really weak sauce IMHO.
Vibrant, Bionix-V, Voodoo...
The more professional thing to do would be to send a PM to the mod who locked the thread.
i gotta admit....
i was trollin this morning....
i saw that thread when i was already in a pissed off mood...
for that i apologize for my part of the trollin...
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Agreed, that's why I did it.
And yes, his post was edited. To be fair, I edited my op to be better, but before I could post that I cleaned it up, it was locked.
that seems like a small thing to close a thread up for.
I think that thread was a suggestion, not a complaint, or rant as you said.
a pure suggestion.
and if people were flaming/trolling it, its the moderators duty, and job to handle that, is it not?
but s15, by just reading the OP, you kind of made it sound like a "DO IT NOW" like a command rather than a request, i can see how the mod would get kind of irritated, too.
"the_scottsmen: Obvious trolls are obvious. It's a pity threads like this can't remain civilised...I'll re-open it for now and move it to General."
The way I interpreted his statement was that the thread wasn't so much the issue, but that some of the more extreme comments were.
My personal on the button: I have no problem with it. I'm with birgertime. This site started as a winmo forum and grown into so much more. Why wouldn't they want to advertise their new sister site? ios is a huge platform and I'm sure they would like those eyeballs to head on over here. Plus those mac fans love to throw out money, like for fart apps. xda deserves money, not so much apple.
Stop whining...are u 5? Seriously? Xda does not need ppl like u crying for every little thing.
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Stop whining...are u 5? Seriously? Xda does not need ppl like u crying for every little thing.
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fatboy547 said:
Stop whining...are u 5? Seriously? Xda does not need ppl like u crying for every little thing.
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THIS is a perfect example of "troll" "flame" and so on.
s15274n said:
Consider this a rant.
I ALWAYS come here to help XDA and our community. I don't believe anyone would doubt that.
I make one thread *HERE* where I comment on not liking the IPHONE FORUMS button at the top...
In there I inquire about having an ANDROID ONLY forum and a MICROSOFT ONLY forum... seems like XDA is getting too big anyway....
I then encourage people to donate to XDA (Like I have)....
and then I get called a troll by some mod I dont know, and my thread gets locked?
Forgive me for helping people here everyday.
Forgive me for encouraging donations to XDA.
Forgive me for not enjoying looking at IPHONE everytime I post about ANDROID.
Forgive me for having an idea to split XDA up into sister sites (like you are doing).
Forgive me FOR BEING A TROLL... that part is laugable. Being called a troll was probably the spark that caused this rant.
/rant
Consider me taking an extended break from XDA... if you need help PM me. I will still be lurking in the Dev section. Or trolling I guess?
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To the Mod that closed this: This is not IRAN we do not need the "Thought Police" telling us we shouldn't express our consternation with a given product or corporate behavior. I would agree to personally attack another person is inappropriate But, the fact is; in a forum such as this we have the right to express our thoughts about these products. After all, isn't that how the development section got started by a bunch of us who were angry with the corporate Lameness and took to solving the substandard products on our own...?........ Or are supposed to be sheep and stay silent ??? Hmmmm ???
Frankly, I have seen so much worse so, why this thread you guys have stock in Apple ???
Ok, I'm starting this thread so who ever has a problem can just air out everything in here.
From everyone complaining about stolen work, who's posting what on twitter and all the bull**** high-school bickering that's going on between members.
You guys are tearing this place a part and turning it into a complete disaster.
So come in here and let it out, stop trashing actual dev threads and turning everything off topic and getting it locked.
And no I don't have a beef with anyone its just extremely annoying.
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Thanks for just starting it up again wtf.
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Will a custom kernel be a problem if I unroot and receive a OTA?
Or will the kernel be restored with my nand backup?
Kernels are restored.
Follow the leader @corythug
What's 5+5+5+5+5+5+5+5x0=?
The answer is 35. Based on my experience with FB, this ought to distract everyone with a whole new type of argument. Engage.
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What's 5+5+5+5+5+5+5+5x0=?
The answer is 35. Based on my experience with FB, this ought to distract everyone with a whole new type of argument. Engage.
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(Scratches head) hmmmmm
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Pemdas.
Gazilliion points fur meeeee
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(Scratches head) hmmmmm
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Multiplication before addition buddy
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If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it.
Does it make a sound???
Idk how I got here...
There is only a sound if you disable hi-fi recording
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Multiplication before addition buddy
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I know how to do math. Lol i was trying to help lighten the situation. Seems like some people are still hostile around here.
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Fail! Lol
Well I tried to lesson some of the b.s. going on around here.
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Maybe we should have 2 more forum subcategories, nexus s/4G ROM awareness
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Ok, I'm starting this thread so who ever has a problem can just air out everything in here.
From everyone complaining about stolen work, who's posting what on twitter and all the bull**** high-school bickering that's going on between members.
You guys are tearing this place a part and turning it into a complete disaster.
So come in here and let it out, stop trashing actual dev threads and turning everything off topic and getting it locked.
And no I don't have a beef with anyone its just extremely annoying.
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How about if it ain't broke then don't fix it? How about leave things alone and quit reorganizing stuff on a whim? How about not making up rules that only apply to the nexus s section but not to any other phone sections? When the ns4g finally came out, we had to beg and make a big fuss about getting a little better organization and differentiation between the ns and ns4g in regards to roms. After it finally came, there was much happiness and joy because the fear of accidentally flashing the wrong rom had been relieved a little. Then a while later, it wasn't good enough the way it was. The dev section had to be changed. Roms started being considered if they were really custom or not. If they weren't made by members here directly, then that's a no no and they don't deserve to be in the appropriate dev section. They should be moved to general, have a scolding message added in the OP's post, telling them they aren't worthy of being in the dev section, then modifying the topic subject into an "awareness" subject? The rules are the rules but they don't apply to cyanogenmod. They don't apply to him because if it weren't for him and his crew, this place wouldn't be as popular as it is/was by a long shot.
With all the android phones I've owned: moment, evo 4g, epic 4g, evo shift, optimus s, and nexus s 4g, I've never had an angering experience with the babysitters until I got to this section. I've never seen things done that seemed ridiculous and like "shooting yourself in the foot" like here. I've never seen such heavy handed managing in similar forums. I've never seen as much locking, censorship and deleting of posts as I have here. The "less than" members in this section aren't having problems and butting heads very much with each other. A good amount of the problems we are encountering are from people that are "greater than" us. We (just members) aren't chasing devs and members off to either quit or go elsewhere.
So go ahead, send me stern and reprimanding pm's saying that my behavior is way out of control. Give me infractions and lots of points and make me stay after school. Mute or erase mine and other's comments. When worse comes to worse, expel us from the school of hacking phones. What I say won't change anything, I know that. I just wanted to get a few things off my chest. I keep coming back to this section, I don't know why, I must be a glutton for punishment.
Everyone is hostile because we don't get laughs from fixxer anymore.
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herbthehammer said:
How about if it ain't broke then don't fix it? How about leave things alone and quit reorganizing stuff on a whim? How about not making up rules that only apply to the nexus s section but not to any other phone sections? When the ns4g finally came out, we had to beg and make a big fuss about getting a little better organization and differentiation between the ns and ns4g in regards to roms. After it finally came, there was much happiness and joy because the fear of accidentally flashing the wrong rom had been relieved a little. Then a while later, it wasn't good enough the way it was. The dev section had to be changed. Roms started being considered if they were really custom or not. If they weren't made by members here directly, then that's a no no and they don't deserve to be in the appropriate dev section. They should be moved to general, have a scolding message added in the OP's post, telling them they aren't worthy of being in the dev section, then modifying the topic subject into an "awareness" subject? The rules are the rules but they don't apply to cyanogenmod. They don't apply to him because if it weren't for him and his crew, this place wouldn't be as popular as it is/was by a long shot.
With all the android phones I've owned: moment, evo 4g, epic 4g, evo shift, optimus s, and nexus s 4g, I've never had an angering experience with the babysitters until I got to this section. I've never seen things done that seemed ridiculous and like "shooting yourself in the foot" like here. I've never seen such heavy handed managing in similar forums. I've never seen as much locking, censorship and deleting of posts as I have here. The "less than" members in this section aren't having problems and butting heads very much with each other. A good amount of the problems we are encountering are from people that are "greater than" us. We (just members) aren't chasing devs and members off to either quit or go elsewhere.
So go ahead, send me stern and reprimanding pm's saying that my behavior is way out of control. Give me infractions and lots of points and make me stay after school. Mute or erase mine and other's comments. When worse comes to worse, expel us from the school of hacking phones. What I say won't change anything, I know that. I just wanted to get a few things off my chest. I keep coming back to this section, I don't know why, I must be a glutton for punishment.
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Some good points. Can't we all just get along ?
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[email protected] said:
Some good points. Can't we all just get along ?
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Obviously not. Our side is trying but the other side is "cheating". Makes it hard.
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I for one like the idea of a general topic thread, but I don't understand why someone that trolls is not banned or their comments removed instead of closing the thread.
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I agree completely. I'm not trolling with that statement either.
Honestly, now that we have 2 mods another thread COULD be opened. The probability of conflict due to misunderstandings, differences of opinion and, perhaps for some, dislike of a fellow member or members is still pretty high.
XDA stands for something special. It's a community of people trying to advance its knowledge through helping and sharing. Sometimes egos, not excluding mine, get inflated and the perceived need to stand up for what one feels is right becomes too much to let lie.
Sometimes people just throw out bait to see who bites. These instigators are known as "trolls."
The latter is frowned upon, but not necessarily wrong, as long as things aren't pushed too far. The former, well, good luck with that one. Remember that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Doing something wrong just to do it is not ok. Doing something wrong because you feel you are fighting for something important is another story. There is the letter of the law, and the spirit in which the law is written.
Again, I'm honestly NOT trolling.
The few should not be allowed to ruin it for the many.
It would be a great day for our XDA community if our senior moderators would embrace this philosophy and push for this change.
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I, for one am guilty of standing up for myself on here. Take it or leave it. I don't let stuff ride. I'm not here to get respect or gain popularity. I do all that I do for fun and to give back. I'm known as a cocky s.o.b but I'm also known to help a fellow member out as much as my knowledge allows. I've spent numerous hours on talk, pm's and email helping people out that just quite can't get it. The thing that just makes me mad is when you see plain stupidity in your face. For example, I've seen at least a dozen people ask "Where is the low mic fix?" when if the person would search or read back 5 pages you'd find the answer. Back when this Glacier thread started you wouldn't even think of asking a question in the dev section without searching at least 10 times and if you asked such a dumb question you would get reprimanded and issued a infraction and your comment deleted. If I would get on someone now, they'd call me names and blah, blah, blah and the poop tossing would begin. The other day I was speaking out against what I thought was unfair in the general section and I don't take back any of it but to have me censored while idiots actually crowd the dev section with questions really made me mad. I have a change of heart now because the moderators are now getting back to the days of old and doing something about the useless posts. +1 to them. Since we had lack of moderating for 6 or so months, the "noobs" that are now senior members think its ok to do what they do and that's when I'm on your ****. Love me, hate me, I honestly don't gaf....end of rant.
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I completely agree with you, I think part of it is people want the cool new stuff without actually reading and learning a thing or two; while it's understandable that you may not have time to look things up, we say these things for the benefit of users themselves. Trust me, the benefits of looking up things on your own and asking after you feel you've searched your ass off are far more greater than just being told everything. Going from releasing a port, to building from source, to being asked by awesome to join team inferno and learning some github all within my first few months of developing on my first and only android phone; I'd say I'm pretty good proof of how effective doing a bit of research is (seeing as I had no prior knowledge on how to do ANYTHING but flash a rom). It's not like you're being asked to read a 700 page documentation on the android system... and although better moderation required us to lose our BS thread and possibly some infractions to some long-time users, it's good that we're starting to get that old sense of moderation back...
tldr; XDA isn't here to hold your hand (so don't assume it is), but if you put some time into reading and learning the benefits are basically limitless.
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I, for one am guilty of standing up for myself on here. Take it or leave it. I don't let stuff ride. I'm not here to get respect or gain popularity. I do all that I do for fun and to give back. I'm known as a cocky s.o.b but I'm also known to help a fellow member out as much as my knowledge allows. I've spent numerous hours on talk, pm's and email helping people out that just quite can't get it. The thing that just makes me mad is when you see plain stupidity in your face. For example, I've seen at least a dozen people ask "Where is the low mic fix?" when if the person would search or read back 5 pages you'd find the answer. Back when this Glacier thread started you wouldn't even think of asking a question in the dev section without searching at least 10 times and if you asked such a dumb question you would get reprimanded and issued a infraction and your comment deleted. If I would get on someone now, they'd call me names and blah, blah, blah and the poop tossing would begin. The other day I was speaking out against what I thought was unfair in the general section and I don't take back any of it but to have me censored while idiots actually crowd the dev section with questions really made me mad. I have a change of heart now because the moderators are now getting back to the days of old and doing something about the useless posts. +1 to them. Since we had lack of moderating for 6 or so months, the "noobs" that are now senior members think its ok to do what they do and that's when I'm on your ****. Love me, hate me, I honestly don't gaf....end of rant.
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i agree. the stupidity around here is just amazing. take the most recent one i've seen for example. i'm not going to name any names, but you know who you are.
this guy comes around and posts a question in the General Section. that's already a mistake. who doesn't know that Questions go in the Q & A Section? and then, since he didn't get any answers, he ventures on over to the Development Section, literally picks a random thread, and posts his question there. his question has NOTHING to do with what the topic is about. completely unacceptable. and then, when another forum member tells him that he shouldn't do that, what does he do? he goes on calling names. hey man, it's not our fault you have no respect for others. all this person could've done was just SEARCH. Google it, Bing it, Yahoo it, i don't care, you could've at least SEARCHED before you asked. yeah okay, maybe if you had only a few post counts, then i would forgive you, but no, this is a Senior Member, with over 200 posts! things like this shouldn't even happen from such an "experienced xda user". and i'm seeing things like this more and more everyday, not just in in Glacier forums, but pretty much everywhere else. noobs come along with only a few posts, and they see that they need 10+ posts to post in the Development Sections. so what do they do? they spam all the other sections and threads until they get more than 10 posts, then they begin spamming the Development Sections with their stupid questions that could've been answered by a search. and that's not all. since they can't spam the Development Sections with under 10 posts, they spam the DEVELOPER'S PMS. i have over 1000 PMs in my inbox, i'd say over 3/4 of them are useless garbage asked by idiots who are too lazy to search.
now about the off topic threads:
i really like the idea, it's a great way for forum members to hang out and have friendly chats for one another, but one thing i had noticed going on in the old BS Thread was that noobs with less than 10 posts would come here and post until they get 10 posts. i actually even read some other posts that encouraged this action. so while the off topic threads are great, they also have downsides to them as well.
IMO, we should just make it that you can only post in the Q & A Section until you have a certain amount of posts, cause honestly, most of the first few posts are just plain stupid questions that can be answered, by a simple search.
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Benignoid said:
I thought this was a community? What kind of community can't even communicate for fun with each other and just talk? Dang the government! (the mods) *end rant*
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I'm going to act like I didn't read that.
As for the off topic thread. I'll allow one of but once it gets hectic like the last one. *You know who I'm talking to* starting problems calling people etc, it's gone an infractions are handed out.
Yall decide in this thread, who will open it.
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I'm going to act like I didn't read that.
As for the off topic thread. I'll allow one of but once it gets hectic like the last one. *You know who I'm talking to* starting problems calling people etc, it's gone an infractions are handed out.
Yall decide in this thread, who will open it.
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Dibs?
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Synthetic.Nightmare said:
Dibs?
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There are no dibs. THIS IS WAR!!!
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Dibs?
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Do it.
Does the Q&A need a b.s. thread?
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md1008 said:
Does the Q&A need a b.s. thread?
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No I think we're lucky to get one
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