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I received my new P3600 last night and played around with it a little. I installed quite a few apps on to the storage card.
Now, what happens is that when I soft reset the device, it keeps on freezing at the green page saying (Windows Mobile - Direct Push Technology). last night I have seen the little spinning thing, now I dont even see this anymore.
Does anyone have the same problem? I am about to return to the device to the seller but want to make sure that really is a device problem rather then anything else.
Any experience with this?
take the manual or use the search for hard reset
tom0_1 said:
take the manual or use the search for hard reset
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well, I keep resetting and eventually the device does start up (out of 10 resets, it works 3 times).
I am wondering though if i should return this one asap. I have had a few devices over the years but never seen a problem like this.
Is resetting a known problem for P3600's?
The error was not the device but one of the applications, I installed.
Glad you're sorted!
Which app was it- as a warning for other users to avoid?
Craic Dub said:
The error was not the device but one of the applications, I installed.
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What was it?
Craic Dub said:
well, I keep resetting and eventually the device does start up (out of 10 resets, it works 3 times).
I am wondering though if i should return this one asap. I have had a few devices over the years but never seen a problem like this.
Is resetting a known problem for P3600's?
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Mine has just done it now. Apparently it is usually an application on the device that is causing problems. I would guess something along the lines of a today plug in or similar.
Trinity Rox
I've had my trinity now for about 2 months.
I just did a hard reset using the clear storage option on a WM6 rom I installed. I ran the "miniSD HC v3.1.zip" fix but my 512 card just vanished on boot up. Came back and saw the card, No problems. A word of warning before you start toying with your new Phone. put "PPCPimBackup" on your storage card and backup all your contacts etc. This app is a life saver.
Hello,
I have the same problem.
What to do?
just boght the p3600 and after using it 2 days i cant restart it.
its stuck whene the screen shows Windows mobile detect push technology.
what to do?
i have WM 5
Hi,
I've a big big problem with my HTC Advantage.
Yesterday the unit worked perfect until it switched off because of the empty battery. Then I charged it overnight.
Today in the mornig my log in passwort didn´t work anymore.
I never changed the password "0103" since 1,5 years.
What can I do now to get on my hdd? I´ve got a "actually" backup on the MiniSD-Card. But it's not possible to get on it.
Even the Hardware-Reset (Volume down holding Reset) doesn't work. I get on the "reset-screen" but the Action-Key doesn't work. Only the Camera (abort) is working.
It's absolutely true, the password changed it self.
Have you got any ideas? HTC says that in repair all datas will be lost!
Best regards from Austria and many many thanks for helping.
I can only say that I have also had the same experience.
For me the battery never ran out of juice but one morning the Advantage just would not accept my 4-digit "password".
I finally had to give up, for after a number of tries the time between each time one can try a new password becomes VERY long (and I also KNOW the password I used so what was the point...). Soft Resets did not help
So I ended up with a hard reset...
And I no longer use a password...
neon-mödling said:
Hi,
I've a big big problem with my HTC Advantage.
Yesterday the unit worked perfect until it switched off because of the empty battery. Then I charged it overnight.
Today in the mornig my log in passwort didn´t work anymore.
I never changed the password "0103" since 1,5 years.
What can I do now to get on my hdd? I´ve got a "actually" backup on the MiniSD-Card. But it's not possible to get on it.
Even the Hardware-Reset (Volume down holding Reset) doesn't work. I get on the "reset-screen" but the Action-Key doesn't work. Only the Camera (abort) is working.
It's absolutely true, the password changed it self.
Have you got any ideas? HTC says that in repair all datas will be lost!
Best regards from Austria and many many thanks for helping.
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I would call HTC and see if their's a default password they might have to get you back into the unit. I know it's a long shot but give it a try bud.
Did you do the hardware reset in the recommended way?
Volume down and pressing Reset at the same time.
Then press the Action Key in the middle (Key with the 4-directions).
I can't do a hardware reset because the button "is not working" or is locked because of the password.
I called HTC today and talked with a competent support engineer. There is no default key to unlock the password. It should be a Windows-Problem.
The only way is to send the unit to HTC - all data will be lost!
Best regards
it can change if you change your IMEI. otherwise no idea why.
For me it worked performing a standard 'hard reset' - volume slider down and 'reset'.
Sadly it seems that no one has got any other solutions...
change rom and restor you back up
go to bootloader mode, dont remember how but the info is somewhere in the forum. Then change rom, you can get the default rom off google if you search, so you actually uprading the same rom again into you existing rom. Then restore your backup. That's should do. i had the same problem and using standard volume slider down and pressing reset button worked for me. Hope that helps.
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go to bootloader mode, dont remember how but the info is somewhere in the forum. Then change rom, you can get the default rom off google if you search, so you actually uprading the same rom again into you existing rom. Then restore your backup. That's should do. i had the same problem and using standard volume slider down and pressing reset button worked for me. Hope that helps.
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uh, no need to reflash. just a plain hardreset will do.
Thanks all for helping.
I decided to send the HTC to the Austrian Service Point.
There´s still a gurantee, so I don´t want to spend every free minute with this stupid thing.
Best regards
neon-mödling said:
Thanks all for helping.
I decided to send the HTC to the Austrian Service Point.
There´s still a gurantee, so I don´t want to spend every free minute with this stupid thing.
Best regards
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heh, task 28 command in mtty is guaranteed to hard reset it if the button press is no good. but maybe it has some hw fault if the buttons don't work..
Solution
This is the only way to solve this issue. Yes its a BUG.
The Password is no longer stored correcly when you loose your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1164331
No patch avalible until now.
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This is the only way to solve this issue. Yes its a BUG.
The Password is no longer stored correcly when you loose your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1164331
No patch avalible until now.
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this link describes how to hard reset a blueangel. not athena.
"task 28" works though, but you do not need "task 0".
"task 28" basically does a plain hard reset, though. you only need to use it if volume+reset doesn't work (which is usually a HW button issue)
This just happened to me on my Touch...
but I ABSOLUTELY need the data on my touch. What to do?
Same Issue - MDA Vario II - PDAViet WM 6.1
Did anyone come, by any chance, up with a solution how to avoid the looming hard-reset?
Happened yesterday - password changed on its own.... Couldn't believe it!!
Still no fix?
I just got back from vacation yesterday. The phone worked fine until this morning. Somehow the password changed and I cannot get in. This sucks! I will lose all of my vacation photos (on internal memory) if I do a hard reset. The good news: I did a back up prior to going on vacation, so I won't lose everything. I, however, really hate to lose two weeks of photos. Any new suggestions on how to retrieve my data?
Sorry dude,
Hv to tell u that I was unable to find one when I was desperately looking for one some time ago. Best of luck anyways, and let us know in case you're successful.
Josh
Thanks for your um, empathy. I did a hard reset, but skipped the flash drive reformat. This reset the main memory to factory settings, but did not delete any of the files on the flash disk. I saved all of my photos, spreadsheets, and other data from the vacation. I restored the August 13th backup, but only the main memory files and lost very little.
This was a scary experience for two reasons: 1) I almost lost a ton of data, 2) I got it all back without needing a password. I thought that data on the flash disk was secure, but I was soooo wrong. All 16Gb are as secure as what is on the MicroSD card. If someone stole my device and performed the same operation they would have had lots of embarrassing photos of me at a bacchelor party and wearing a Spedo (or less) on the beach. I guess this is something I need to keep in mind in the future. I don't need these photos popping up when I run for president.
Last night i took a photo then attempted to send it to a friend (MMS) - surprise surprise the phone made no effort to send it and it sat in the Outbox. I deleted the message and re-created it then attempted to re-send... again... didn't even try to send it.
So i created the message again... but this time, it couldn't find any of my photos... which I thought was odd... so i try to load Resco File Explorer - and it complains that it can't find the program (installed to SD card).
So it seems that magically I have no SD card any more (fwiw: i'm using a 16GB Sandisk one).
So, thinking the phone is just spazzing out, i reboot it.... and now it won't even f***ing recognise my password!
I'm being pretty patient with this phone as i've loved it up until recently... but if i'm honest - i'm starting to grow weary of it now!
If anyone has any thoughts on what might have caused the above - i'd appreciate it!
Thanks
Don't know what has caused it but, if you have your data backed up, I would go for a hard reset and take it from there.
Incidentally what version ROM are you running?
WB
I'm using the stock UK T-Mobile 1.43 ROM
UPDATE: I've left the battery out for an hour or so and also performed several soft resets........ and now, the "unlock" button does nothing! No confirmation of a wrong password... just........ nothing!
So ****ing pissed off!
Pooper,
You say you have done several soft resets. Have you tried the hard reset I suggested earlier (different procedure to soft reset)?
If you try that and it doesn't work then take the easy way out and return/exchange the device as faulty.
Alternatively, if you get it up and running and are not precious about the T-Mobile rom, then flash to another rom (the stock 1.48 is a good start) and take it from there.
Just in case you do have a dodgy device I would start by returning it if the hard reset does not work.
Keep us posted on how you get on.
Cheers
WB
On this forum, 1 in 2 posts ends with "Hard reset it"...
...1 in 4 posts says "You must have a faulty device, send it back"
I pity the poor guy in the returns department of HTC. The quality control guys on the other hand, they really like to party don't they?
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On this forum, 1 in 2 posts ends with "Hard reset it"...
...1 in 4 posts says "You must have a faulty device, send it back"
I pity the poor guy in the returns department of HTC. The quality control guys on the other hand, they really like to party don't they?
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Sometimes hard resets do resolve strange issues. Soft reseting is a way of life in the winmobile world.
The dilemma people have at the moment is that because there are so many reports of issues and variable manufacturing quality in these devices and they are all under warranty, it makes sense to play safe and send the device back if all sensible and warranty friendly measures to resolve problems have failed.
Must admit I would be really cheesed off if I happened to have a faulty device on my hands, due to manufacturing errors, which the manufacturer would not accept back because I had tried solutions to resolve problems that they considered not to be warranty friendly. Definitely would not be happy after having spent £500 on a device.
Regrettably, therefore, this is why the most common recommendation at the moment is to send a device back. Not good but sensible and pragmatic.
WB
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On this forum, 1 in 2 posts ends with "Hard reset it"...
...1 in 4 posts says "You must have a faulty device, send it back"
I pity the poor guy in the returns department of HTC. The quality control guys on the other hand, they really like to party don't they?
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a hard reset is kind of the mobile equivalent to restarting your pc, and we all know that is the first thing any tech support guy says. as for the quality control, don't forget that for everyone with a problem there are a few dozen people with no problems at all, they just don't start threads saying "no problem with camera, help not needed"
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a hard reset is kind of the mobile equivalent to restarting your pc,
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Not really.... a SOFT reset is like restarting you PC (i.e. your programmes, settings, personal saves etc. are all preserved); a HARD reset is more like reformatting your computer that has an ability to self install Windows when the format is done... (i.e. you lose all personal files etc.).
A hard reset is far more taxing than a soft one. Last option for me everytime!
oliie said:
A hard reset is far more taxing than a soft one. Last option for me everytime!
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I very rarely have to do a hard reset with my Diamond (only after upgrading the rom), although I have to do several soft resets a day due to my tinkering!
I hear you Wacky Banana - £500 device that did this and I'd be a bit miffed too!
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a hard reset is kind of the mobile equivalent to restarting your pc, and we all know that is the first thing any tech support guy says. as for the quality control, don't forget that for everyone with a problem there are a few dozen people with no problems at all, they just don't start threads saying "no problem with camera, help not needed"
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Hi! Indeed, I couldn't agree more with you. I have bought my HD2 two weeks ago (as well as my brother and my dad about a month ago) and none of us has a any problems whatsoever and actually this is my first post after I have bought the device.
I am reading this forum everyday and I contribute wherever I can to help people out (not so much here, so forgive me ).
I have came to the conclusion that either the branded units are of lower quality than the unbranded ones ( a bit unlikely) or the branded ones are full of software bugs by not so good operators tweaking (most likely)...
cheers
Hehe, i knew i'd wake up to howls of anger and derision re: my hard reset comment.
The actualities of the process aside, the comparison I was trying to make was that if you have a problem on your PC, sometimes logging off and back on will fix it, whilst other times a reboot is required. (Yes, I know, a reboot is usualy the first stop because it only takes a minute or so, and there's no resetting to do, but bear with me)
In many circumstances I would equate a soft reset to logging off, in that it doesn't always solve a problem. Sure, it solves many small problems, but for larger probs theres nothing like a hard reset and start over. Planned ahead, and assuming you have all the apps you regularly use in a handy spot, and your data backed up, a hard reset need only take 10-20 minutes, if that.
Suppose it serves me right for trying to mix up similies at 3am.
Your problem sending MMS's is probably to do with winmo getting the settings for T-Mobile slightly wrong.
Go to start->settings->menu->all settings->connections->connections->manage existing connections
edit the active connection and untick the box where it uses a proxy.
This is common to all winmo devices that automatically setup connections for T-Mobile.
I had put a pattern lock on my HTC HD2 but my phone went dead and after I put it in charge and turned it on the phone won't accept the right password like it doesn't recognize it ... so now im locked outta my phone . I know how to do a factory reset , but i dont wanna erase everything ..
I heard a whole bunch of stuffs and people everywhere be saying that they haven't heard any other way then the master reset to unlock the phone so I was wondering is there any other way I can unlock the phone without having to do a master reset cause I haven't backing up my datas on the phone yet and since it's locked now it doen't even allow me now to do any kind of synchronization on my pc. So since yall are the experts on that matter please help me cause I'm afraid of losing all my informations on the phone and it has been about two weeks now since I put the phone on a corner somewhere unuseful and waiting for an answer.
thanks already guys !
Unfortunately, there is no way out other than a reset. Sucks to hear I know. However, yank the SD card out first, at least you wont lose anything that's on that.
Going forward, you can use the built in Microsoft MyPhone to sync backups to your live account. Or any other number of backup software that's out there. You can also set your phone and video to save to the SD card.
Sorry man, it's the most frustrating thing about this phone.
Yea that is so frustrating ... but is there any way that I can back up my datas before i perform that master reset cause I have never back them up before and everything is saved on the phone even my contacts cause as the phone locked right now it seems impossible to me to do anything at all. Anytime I'm trying to synchronize the datas on my pc it won't let me and said "your phone is locked authenticate your phone first". So is there any way out ?
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Yea that is so frustrating ... but is there any way that I can back up my datas before i perform that master reset cause I have never back them up before and everything is saved on the phone even my contacts cause as the phone locked right now it seems impossible to me to do anything at all. Anytime I'm trying to synchronize the datas on my pc it won't let me and said "your phone is locked authenticate your phone first". So is there any way out ?
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Unfortunately that's one of the bugs, that the lock screen will no longer function correctly, you won't be able to get in, ever, sorry
i think i know why it happens, at least for me...
seems whenever i install certain cabs, then uninstall them, this happens. most recently has been a swype cab i found off here, was the latest version for t-mobile hd2s. it installed fine and worked fine, but when i removed it, it caused the issue. i reformatted and only installed that cab, setup a pin, rebooted, worked, uninstalled the swype cab, rebooted, broke-wouldn't take the pin.
so maybe it has something to do with using non stock roms and using different kinds of cabs or something...
Just happened to me last week due to a forced server exchange policy.
Hard reset is it. Confirmed by HTC.
Known bug with no fix on the way it seems.
same happended to me...and still looking to fix it
i already did the reset they told not to put a password on my phone
so im lookin if they find a fix so i can use password
My Grand Prime doesn't recognize any of my microSD cards (I have three that work with all my other devices except this phone). Before I accept that the connector is broken and file for a warranty replacement I want to try out a couple things.
One thing I was reading is to uninstall/install the microSD drivers from the Device Manager. However, I can't find the Device Manager...where is it located?
Another suggestions was to perform a Reset, and if that doesn't fix it, a Factory Reset. All I can find, as far as resets, is the Factory Reset. How do you perform this regular reset and what is the difference?
Then someone on Android Central said that the Android OS could be the problem. I responded to this guy letting him know the phone's running 5.1.1, but I haven't heard back from him. Is anyone familiar with this, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
If anyone has any other suggestions they'd be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
-Adam
God this was funny xD. There's no device manager on android. To do a factory reset, pull the battery out, put it back in and before turning it on press the Volume UP and home button and turn it on. Quit releasing the power once you see Samsung on the screen. Then using the volume keys, select Wipe Data and use the power button to confirm.
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God this was funny xD. There's no device manager on android. To do a factory reset, pull the battery out, put it back in and before turning it on press the Volume UP and home button and turn it on. Quit releasing the power once you see Samsung on the screen. Then using the volume keys, select Wipe Data and use the power button to confirm.
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Ok, so I'm not crazy; I had never been aware of a device manager either. Is there even such thing as a sd card driver either?! Same thing with a Reset that isn't a Factory Reset..? This problem is just really pissing me off cuz I called the Metro store I bought the phone at the same day to ask if I could come back and exchange it, it's obviously a lemon, and they said no! I have to go thru the warranty. If they try n charge me any extra money for a new phone I won't be happy. I know how these companies work. They pass you off to 10 different people, with the hold time increasing each time, until you get to someone that can actually help you and cancel the made up charge. They know they're dealing with someone who's already frustrated and figure that you'll just give up and pay.
No there are no drivers in Linux/android as far as I'm aware, however there are modules that make your hardware load but that should nit be an issue. The only reset there is, is the Factory reset. Try it, if it doesnt work either, go to the store and claim your warranty!
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No there are no drivers in Linux/android as far as I'm aware, however there are modules that make your hardware load but that should nit be an issue. The only reset there is, is the Factory reset. Try it, if it doesnt work either, go to the store and claim your warranty!
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Have you ever heard of a problem, most likely hardware related, being fixed with a Factory Reset? Also, is there an App that copies all Contacts saved to the Device into a file that fan be imported back into the phone, after the reset? The Contacts I have saved to Google are cluttered with old, outdated ones, ones of people I forge,t but might remember one day, and be happy I still have them, etc. So I just keep the Contacts I currently use on the Device to make things less complicated. Thanks.
Adam O'Blivion said:
Have you ever heard of a problem, most likely hardware related, being fixed with a Factory Reset? Also, is there an App that copies all Contacts saved to the Device into a file that fan be imported back into the phone, after the reset? The Contacts I have saved to Google are cluttered with old, outdated ones, ones of people I forge,t but might remember one day, and be happy I still have them, etc. So I just keep the Contacts I currently use on the Device to make things less complicated. Thanks.
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Nope sorry don't know any app like that I always use the google sync!