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installing recovery without rooting?

Hi,
I have a nexus one and my friend wants the desire HD, but has some questions:
1. Can we install recovery WITHOUT rooting or at least without touching the stock rom?
2. Is there a patch to READ/WRITE Arabic letters? (a fix to connect the letters with each other, don't care about arabic UI)
3. If there's a patch, can it be installed on STOCK rom? with or without recovery?
I have my nexus one rooted and installed cooked rom, he doesn't want a cooked rom because he wants to receive google OTA updates.

Lol google don't update the desire hd.
But yes you need root before recovery.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.

dr.m0x said:
Lol google don't update the desire hd.
But yes you need root before recovery.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
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Doesn't google release OTA's every now and then?
Can't I keep the original rom while rooting the device?

I'm guessing what he means, is that Google doesn't update the Desire HD. HTC do, since it's an HTC phone

Google release the update HTC grab it insert the UI etc give it back to Google for he ota update
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ultra99 said:
Hi,
I have a nexus one and my friend wants the desire HD, but has some questions:
1. Can we install recovery WITHOUT rooting or at least without touching the stock rom?
2. Is there a patch to READ/WRITE Arabic letters? (a fix to connect the letters with each other, don't care about arabic UI)
3. If there's a patch, can it be installed on STOCK rom? with or without recovery?
I have my nexus one rooted and installed cooked rom, he doesn't want a cooked rom because he wants to receive google OTA updates.
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You need to root (and S-OFF) to install a custom recovery, but you can keep the stock ROM if you want. The catch is, that sinse your friend *wants* to buy a DHD, chances are that it will come with 1.72 ROM preinstalled. So no rooting possibility (for now at least), which means no custom recovery.
Updates are released by HTC. Obviously, if the update includes some patching to the Android OS, it's made by Google (but still released by HTC), but if the update includes patching of some phone issues (e.g. proximity sensor) or enhaching the functionality of a HTC's preinstalled app (e.g. camera), it's made and released by HTC themselves.
Don't know about arabic letters though. I remember there was a thread about this when the phone was released, but I didn't follow it. Try searching.

Verizon 4G Xoom Update HLK75H From HLK75F

This will update you from HLK75F (Android 3.2.4) to HLK75H (Android 3.2.6)
http://www.adrive.com/public/4b9c0913dd09925ec75f89fc410daba9537159adc7b178385965f0a3652ae86a.html
File name f6c4a62b2cbd.signed-trygon-HLK75H-from-HLK75F.f6c4a62b.zip
MD5 - E5E4A125B06496D0D13755FB72A1E23D
Verizon's Official Update PDF can be found here
http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/system_update/xoom.pdf

Giggity! Just did the update manually via stock recovery. Got nervous for a minute because when it came back up, the baseband version was coming up as "unknown". WiFi worked but 4G didn't. Reboot fixed it, thankfully.
It looks like there's a new CDMA radio (5DP vs. 54P in HLK75F) in the update, but the LTE radio remains the same version (05.19.07) as HLK75F. There is no bootloader update either, which is a good thing. Once you start getting into new bootloader versions, flashing old firmware instantly becomes a nightmare as anyone with a Motorola smartphone can tell you.
I'm hoping this update means ICS is around the corner. This HLK75H update may be the one that comes out as the "launchpad" for ICS...sort-of like what Google did with the Nexus One. Like a week or two before they upgraded it to Gingerbread, they released a Froyo update 2.2.2 which didn't really fix anything that anyone could figure out. It seems like it was just there to be the upgrade path to Gingerbread.
I hope that's what's going on here. Either way, I'm sure we can say that 3.2.6 is the final release of Honeycomb.

How can I apply it if i'm not rooted
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wolf1306 said:
How can I apply it if i'm not rooted
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you can find the instruction here.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...unrooted-with-locked-or-unlocked-bootloaders/

wolf1306 said:
How can I apply it if i'm not rooted
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I am not sure as i have not been not rooted for along time but i am thinking if you copy it to your sdcard and reboot into recovery you can apply it through there. At least this option works on my bionic anyway.
To get into recovery you must turn power off then power it on again. Once the red motorola logo comes up count 1 2 3 and then hit the down volume button until it says android recovery then hit the up volume button to select it.

oldblue910 said:
Giggity! Just did the update manually via stock recovery. Got nervous for a minute because when it came back up, the baseband version was coming up as "unknown". WiFi worked but 4G didn't. Reboot fixed it, thankfully.
It looks like there's a new CDMA radio (5DP vs. 54P in HLK75F) in the update, but the LTE radio remains the same version (05.19.07) as HLK75F. There is no bootloader update either, which is a good thing. Once you start getting into new bootloader versions, flashing old firmware instantly becomes a nightmare as anyone with a Motorola smartphone can tell you.
I'm hoping this update means ICS is around the corner. This HLK75H update may be the one that comes out as the "launchpad" for ICS...sort-of like what Google did with the Nexus One. Like a week or two before they upgraded it to Gingerbread, they released a Froyo update 2.2.2 which didn't really fix anything that anyone could figure out. It seems like it was just there to be the upgrade path to Gingerbread.
I hope that's what's going on here. Either way, I'm sure we can say that 3.2.6 is the final release of Honeycomb.
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I wouldn't count on it but would hope that ICS is around the corner for us. As for the final release of Honeycomb i would hope so too but who knows what these people at Motorola think. I would like to see an ASOP ICS but i bet moto puts their hands on it before we get it and adds their 2 cents.

Not on the US Xoom. They can't. The updates come from Google. Moto just pushes them. The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device. ICS will be plain vanilla just like Honeycomb is.
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This works only in the 4g, because I have the Verizon version ,but with 3g...
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I am rooted using Rogue Recovery 1.3.0 and Rogue Kernel 1.4.3 "Rana" (ROM Ver. HLK75F) can I run this Zip from Rogue Recovery without going back to stock kernel and recovery? Will this update un-root me?
I will answer my on questions for 'GP' I ran the update through recovery, I was soft bricked at the Dual Core 'M'. Went back into recovery and reinstalled 'Rogue Kernel 1.4.3 "Rana"' and Universal Root.zip (didn't know if it was needed but figured it wouldn't hurt.) and rebooted after 10 minutes was up and running on HLK75H. Had 'su' updated binaries once system was running and all seems well.

what are you all excited about? This update is worthless

LIH said:
what are you all excited about? This update is worthless
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Might be but it is still an update.

+1
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zip file is no longer available

http://android.clients.google.com/p...signed-trygon-HLK75H-from-HLK75F.f6c4a62b.zip
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thank you

Sky Go on Milestone 2

Hello forumites. I did have a thread on the dev forum regarding this but it got deleted (don't know why?) and had little - no - response. Here's hoping this thread bears more fruit... I mean, surely I'm not the only one trying to get this app running?
Bottom line in case you don't know is that you need to use this version of the app and use OTA Voodoo Rootkeeper to hide the root before using the app (Sky has blocked rooted phones from working).
Problem No. 2 seems to be that Sky checks for custom ROMs and kernels so it is very hit and miss as to which handsets will work. So far I have tested MIUI (unsuccessful), MS2Ginger 3.0 (successful but didn't like the ROM) and stock UK GB (via santi's Nandroid backup - unsuccessful). Some guy here has managed to get the app going on a stock ROM so I'm currently flashing the SBF via RSD Lite to see if I get any more joy.
Anyone else here had a go at getting Sky Go working? If so, which ROM are you rocking?

I can assure you it works on the stock rom with Voodoo, eventhough the ROM is pants while Skygo works I will keep it!

I have a Argent3.0stone... I will try

I have MIUI, i will try too..

Managed to get it running by flashing a UK GB SBF but the stock ROM is god-awful. Anyone tried running it under CM9? I know that ICS isn't officially supported but I have heard reports of it working.

Don't use the universal de-blur script because Sky Go doesn't work anymore, only news no sport, it thinks its rooted even with voodoo :-(

CM9 and V3 Bootloader, won't wake up

I have CM9 with the V3 bootloader and I'm loving it!
I have one issue and I was wondering if anyone else has come across this. When I lock the screen (tap the power button) then come back to it 5 minutes later I have to do a hard reset. It's like it's going to sleep and not coming back on. This isn't a CM9 issue I don't think because the official dump I flashed originally to get on ICS and the V3 bootloader had the same issue. Is it the bootloader? Is there a firmware update I missed by not using the official GEN1 update? Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: I used the Acer_AV041_A500_1.033.00_PA_CUS1 update.zip to get onto ICS and it worked beautifully except for this issue. Should I reflash with one of the other ICS leaks for the GEN1?

Search for sod (sleep of death) and you will get a zillion hits...

naviathan said:
I have CM9 with the V3 bootloader and I'm loving it!
I have one issue and I was wondering if anyone else has come across this. When I lock the screen (tap the power button) then come back to it 5 minutes later I have to do a hard reset. It's like it's going to sleep and not coming back on. This isn't a CM9 issue I don't think because the official dump I flashed originally to get on ICS and the V3 bootloader had the same issue. Is it the bootloader? Is there a firmware update I missed by not using the official GEN1 update? Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: I used the Acer_AV041_A500_1.033.00_PA_CUS1 update.zip to get onto ICS and it worked beautifully except for this issue. Should I reflash with one of the other ICS leaks for the GEN1?
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Flash the correct ICS kernel and not a modified kernel to run on HC bootloader.

civato said:
Flash the correct ICS kernel and not a modified kernel to run on HC bootloader.
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CM9 isn't using the correct kernel? I thought they said they would no longer be providing a HC compatible kernel in their images.

Stay Stock Or Custom Rom?

Im getting a Nexus 7 for christmas and im wondering if i decide to root the nexus 7 is it possible to go back to stock as its not amobile phone i cant think it would be to hard because i love the stock jelly bean 4.2 system but im wanting paranoid rom so i can get table ui on the nexus 7 but if i dont like it can i just go back to the stcok jelly bean rom?? (nexus 7 has been bought from offical google website)
Thanks Guys
George

Why would you not like it...its stock plus so many more options.
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Yes.
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dparrothead1 said:
Yes.
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out

Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35472344#post35472344

dannymassacre said:
Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
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This doesn't even matter, all the devs have the official ota update before it comes out due to Google dropping the source before they actually push it out.
Way better to root, you'll have the updates faster that way.
Sent from my Nexus 7

IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out

While I personally prefer stock (with modifications of course) on my N7, it is trivial to revert these devices back to stock, or any other ROM, if you want to. You don't even need to revert and upgrade - you could just download the latest FULL image and flash your device that way, skipping the update step altogether.
But if updates are your only concern, I imagine most of the ROM developers would incorporate the new version into their ROMs very soon after the OTA drops.

BrianDigital said:
IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
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This.
Even if you don't run a custom rom initially, if the bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom recovery and rom later. The problem is that if you unlock all the internal storage gets wiped which is not the end of the world if you backup first but it's still a minor inconvenience.
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paranoid is great, but depends what you like. I love it fit the tablet interface and customization options. stock 4.2 had a lot of the same customization built in, so it's awesome as well.
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To me, its custom ROM or bust.
-Sent from Marino's Nexus 7-

Multi ROM
you may want to use Multi ROM.
Root your stock ROM.
Install Custom Recovery to install Multi ROM.
After installing Multi ROM, you may now install other or more ROMs inside.
Also, you have the option to auto-boot from stock ROM or from other ROM.
With that, you may access your stock ROM without removing your custom ROMs and vice versa.
Goodluck!

I unlocked and rooted my nexus 7 so that I could use otg cable---> a flash drive … I have extra storage now. Just download an app called stick mount an your all set...

Rooting should be the first thing you should do. As others said you can keep it stock if you want. Only difference is you get to install apps like titanium backup and file managers like root explorer. You also will have a custom recovery so you can backup your latest STABLE and smooth ROM so you can revert back if you ever run into trouble like the 4.2 OTA debacle.
As far as any maintenance and fixing issues... having root makes it a breeze as factory resets just mean in 10 minutes you are back in businesses, you just need redo your screens.

I took the plunge and after rooting I installed this: [EXPERIMENTAL] MultiROM v3
Now I'm running stock along with a few other ROMS, including Ubuntu.