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So I've been messing around trying to see what I can get going on the froyo front and I'm running into some problems....
first off, froyo isn't a huge fan of the galaxy s hardware...in AVD, when I create the profile in terms of the captivate hardware and it is buggy even in emulation...this doesn't bode well for actual hardware use. Maybe I'm just really bad at development but I dunno...
So secondly, on the phone itself I thought i'd try to just send over the image to see if the phone would even accept it. While the bootloader seems to be fine and not too worried about accepting an image (the touchwiz 2.1) it doesn't want to accept the buggy froyo.
So i've given it some shots, but its gonna take someone or a group of people who're smarter than me to see why the bootloader isn't really unlocked and why the avd doesn't like the galaxy s hardware specifications
I brought up the possibility of not being able to run Froyo without it being officially released by Samsung first on the Phandroid forums and repeatedly was assured that it'd only be a matter of time until Froyo was released on it.
This is disappointing
Intervenient said:
I brought up the possibility of not being able to run Froyo without it being officially released by Samsung first on the Phandroid forums and repeatedly was assured that it'd only be a matter of time until Froyo was released on it.
This is disappointing
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well it should work without it being specifically released (see aria, and every old HTC) but for some reason it's not. I'm probably just doing something wrong... i was a WM dev then an iPhone dev, I'm just learning the whole android development stuff
Read up on behold 2 development on androidforums.com and Eugene_ 373's forum on androidspin.com its very similar in structure to the galaxy s brand of phones. You can't expect Samsung phones and HTC phones to be in anyway simular. They use different file systems and partitions. So it is not a cut and paste job you need to do some heavy hacking.
psychoace said:
Read up on behold 2 development on androidforums.com and Eugene_ 373's forum on androidspin.com its very similar in structure to the galaxy s brand of phones. You can't expect Samsung phones and HTC phones to be in anyway simular. They use different file systems and partitions. So it is not a cut and paste job you need to do some heavy hacking.
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Do you think it can be done? Will we see Froyo before Samsung releases it?
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Do you think it can be done? Will we see Froyo before Samsung releases it?
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I and pretty much everyone that has followed the behold 2 debacle on androidforums.com have major doubts but I still believe there is potential. That's as much as I can say because some people on here don't like the fact that I don't have the same blind optimism as they do.
Also here are some posts that might help
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=12840#post12840
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a.html
Also I still might get a captivate if some good dev work is done. I don't need froyo before Samsung releases it and most of the added function provided by hacked and rooted roms can be added on to samsung roms. I am not getting a new phone for another month so if it looks like there is a lot of dev work done to this phone by then I will stay Samsung even though it might not get gingerbread.
psychoace said:
I and pretty much everyone that has followed the behold 2 debacle on androidforums.com have major doubts but I still believe there is potential. That's as much as I can say because some people on here don't like the fact that I don't have the same blind optimism as they do.
Also here are some posts that might help
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=12840#post12840
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a.html
Also I still might get a captivate if some good dev work is done. I don't need froyo before Samsung releases it and most of the added function provided by hacked and rooted roms can be added on to samsung roms. I am not getting a new phone for another month so if it looks like there is a lot of dev work done to this phone by then I will stay Samsung even though it might not get gingerbread.
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Just doing a quick Twitter search for "iphone captivate" yields 80% of the peope tweeting something along the lines of leaving their iPhone 4 for a captivate. Lets hope the Dev's share the same thoughts.
Hey I would just like to know if the Galaxy S has something. Can you go into Apps managment and look for an app called "device managment"? If it's there and at 40+ mb's then that is a recovery rom. It is a duplicate of your starting rom. You can clear it most likely to regain space but after a reboot it will come back. There is another partition on the phone that stores the rom and the phone will run a check on boot up to make sure it's there. If not then it replaces it. It can be hacked out permanently but I know the Galaxy S doesn't really have any issues about storage space.
psychoace said:
I and pretty much everyone that has followed the behold 2 debacle on androidforums.com have major doubts but I still believe there is potential. That's as much as I can say because some people on here don't like the fact that I don't have the same blind optimism as they do.
Also here are some posts that might help
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=12840#post12840
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a.html
Also I still might get a captivate if some good dev work is done. I don't need froyo before Samsung releases it and most of the added function provided by hacked and rooted roms can be added on to samsung roms. I am not getting a new phone for another month so if it looks like there is a lot of dev work done to this phone by then I will stay Samsung even though it might not get gingerbread.
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Very much apperciated, and the links were helpful on how this all will go down. This greatly changes on if I'll keep my Captivate. I know you should be happy with the phone you have, not the one you'll get, but I don't think I can stomach having a phone that won't be supported come Q4.
If the galaxy phones sell well it will be supported. They do have some phones that have gone from 1.5 to 2.1. Just don't expect any haste out of there crew
The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
Phlip00ws6 said:
The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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true...
I was just messing around with the sdk and whatnot and thought what the hell I have a spare I might as well try
but i guess it's above my head. I'm gonna keep reading up on it though, I'm not the best coder (my expertise lies in c++) but I can surely give it a shot
Phlip00ws6 said:
The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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Tell that to Cyanogen and Avalaunchmods and Herver who are all making FroYo ROMs for the Evo.
This sucks. I was kinda looking into replacing my 9700 with the Captivate and keeping at&t and Sprint both...
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The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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wrong.
See above post and also thing about the nexus one. 2.2 was released via cyanogen before it was officially released to the public.
And why would you want the official release from Samsung, which would still have the ATT junk and TW3.0, I want STOCK.
andy2na said:
wrong.
See above post and also thing about the nexus one. 2.2 was released via cyanogen before it was officially released to the public.
And why would you want the official release from Samsung, which would still have the ATT junk and TW3.0, I want STOCK.
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Yeah being able to remove the bloatware and using launcher pro and some of the stock Android apps like music is nice but still having to leave any TouchWiz stuff there is annoying. It will be the same on the official release just with 2.2 so I don't see why there wouldn't already be development for a custom ROM for captivate based off the stock Froyo 2.2 straight from Google. In fact this reminds me that I need to keep reading up and playing around so I might be able to do something even though it would only be for future development.
I'm not as concerned about 2.2 as 3.0...
If someone can get 2.2 running on this, then it bodes well for getting 3.0 running on this as well.
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I'm not as concerned about 2.2 as 3.0...
If someone can get 2.2 running on this, then it bodes well for getting 3.0 running on this as well.
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This. I'd love to see Gingerbread on this phone.
Before I get to my point I want to thank all the devs for there hard work that they do in their spare time. They do it for free and hope that some of us donate to make it a little more worth their while.
Maybe it's just me or does it seem like the development thread is slowing down. I've noticed lately that most of the stuff coming in now is ports from other phones and updates for past builds. Theres not alot of new stuff rolling out. EDT seems to stay busy, but what happend to TW? I would have put money on having a stable 2.3 rom out by now to use as a daily driver. We also lost Eugene and leaked samsung builds seem to not be coming out as often.
Is our phone entering the twilight years? Are the dev's losing interest and working on other phones. I've played around with some of the new phones like the atrix and thunderbolt and i'm sure they could be a lil more interesting to build for.
I hope i'm wrong and 5 min. after I post this a new 2.3 rom comes out. It was fun when you flashed a new trigger rom and 1 day later the new bionix came out. This is a really nice phone and you have to really try hard to brick it. It's almost like Samsung designed it to be modded. Hopefully the devs can get inspired again or some new blood comes in to give us something new.
I think we need to be patient. One day there will be a leak for gb and things will fire up again.
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just relax man every phone goes through spells of development. I see you only joined in april so just wait, Whitehawkx had a mostly working gb port working minus the gps and we have CM7 and MIUI support now as well.
Be patient this phone is amazing and im certain development will continue for it for some time.
In the mean time flash a miui beta or try out the EDT roms you wont be disappointed.
Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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u guys keep us coming back for more every day and i thank you for that! great job on all this.
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Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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Yes, but point being is that we're pretty much at the mercy of Samsung & T-Mobile to release a 2.3.
We will not have a kernel source to play with until it releases for I9K, and even then we'll have issues for a while. And we won't have one with rockin' battery life until we get a leak or source.
But yeah, there really isn't much developing coming from anyone except the guys working on kernels & people like Whitehawk, sonique, and of course Untermench who actaully modify the code. Because there's not much else to do.
Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
explodingboy70 said:
Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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I actually have tried to develop a theme to post here but there is so much involved with all the editing and i simply don't have the time. I really wish I did. Trust me I have a great respect for what the dev's do once I started playing around with just a theme. I can only imagine what a rom would take. Plus I can honestly say i'm not skilled enough to put out a quality rom any time soon, if ever. I'm really not complaining about effort or quantity from the devs, i've just noticed lately there seems to be a dull in the dev section. I was just wondering why.
Eugene is back. He said on twitter that he bought a Vibrant. You can see evidence, his newest Ginger Clone version has already had 4 updates.
Sure a lot of the development is for 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms, but I'd say we're easily WAY more active than we used to be. We've now got plenty of choices of roms, kernels, and themes. We've also got new people joining the Vibe development scene. There's an experimental Gingerbread Sense that's just started testing. We are now officially supported by the MIUI team. I see new things happening every day. Development doesn't always happen overnight, but I believe we've still got lots of good things look forward to.
Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Haha yeah I remember that too. But ROMs every week != good. Most of them are ports and aren't stable.
I really wish we could have AOSP roms so we could have TRUE development going on. None of this hack and patch stuff.
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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They want CM lol (as do I)
Why do we keep having these threads. I rooted my phone late last year. I have been more then satisfied. I'm just glad to have a faster better phone than what I had originally. Just have some damn patience.
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Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
masterotaku said:
Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
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Well said. It's just like what happened when I had the N1, people started to complain because the roms were so stable there weren't many updates being released.
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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i dont know either...
2.3 probably WILL be faster than 2.2 (duh) but besides the speed, we have everything else.
All thats going to be different is when you go into settings about it will say 2.3 gingerbread
instead of 2.2 or 2.2.1
the rest is good.
im on miui, and i switch between cm7 and miui once in a while
im never going back to 2.2.1
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What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
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What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Well said. Someone just asked on one of my 2.2.1 threads why it was so quiet and my only thought was because everything works. Here it is everything has been fixed there should be nothing left to discuss here flash and enjoy.
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
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That's the point for me. I stopped updating at KA6. Sure KA7 came out not long after, but why? I had been updating daily/weekly until then, always fighting some bug or flaw. With KA6, I flashed the ODIN version, removed bloatware myself, added the round battery icon, power off menu, and that was *it*. More recently I've updated the Kernel to Overstock 2.x and voodoo FS, but I'm not even sure why I need voodoo. Can't tell a difference in the real speed of the phone.
I didn't take the phone apart to add FFC like so many did (and who also never use it in most cases), so I don't need improved support for that... and themes, well... I guess there is that, not much going on in KA6 themes -- but that doesn't affect the use of the phone at all.
KA6 for me has been fast, stable, and by far the best on battery life of any I've touched yet. There are few if any programs out there that require 2.3 or higher, and until that is the case, why change?
The atmosphere is totally different than it was last fall, when the rest of the world was going 2.2 and Vibrant was stuck on 2.1. At that time, there were an increasing number of programs that simply would not work on Eclair - plus Froyo had been promised as an update. Now we have everything Samsung promised, and really if you're running a lightly modded ROM, it *is* bug-free.
So... until I am forced to consider 2.3, I'm sticking with KA6.. It is nice after years of constantly flashing upgrades on the HTC Vogue (wm6), then the G1, then flashing the MT3G constantly, then constantly flashing the Vibrant, to actually pick up my phone and have it work the same way it did yesterday.
So I have had my A500 for a week now and love it but still getting used to it. When I first purchased it and opened it up on first boot I setup the wi-fi etc it came up with update available, Said ok and it did the update.
When looking at the about side of things its saying its version 3.0.0.1 or was it 3.0.1 (am at work and cannot remember exactly. So has the 3.1 update been put out and that's what I updated to or is there still the update to come ??.
20 seconds of searching would net you your answer.
3.1 is due out at the end of June, but no exact date as yet.
on 30 June @23:59:59 exactly PST!
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Oh man, is this it? 6/23?
I've had my Iconia for a day (upgrade from Advent Vega). It's awesome, but I miss being able to use my Xbox controller for ye olde sega/nes/psx games.
Very much looking forward to 'official' xbox pad support, and hoping it brings analogue stick functionality with it (I'm guessing it does - right now, I only get dpad/button/triggers working on the Vega).
The 23rd... an agonising 11 days.
yeah I can't wait and I really think why it took so long is cause Acer had to add things to improve a500s quality with honeycomb, more than motorola and Asus had to.
I think many, many people are thinking the 3.1 update is going to be the holy grail of Android.
I, for one, will be waiting to update - you lot can be the 'first adopters' and get all the bugs, I'll wait for 3.101.
3.1 will not be the all-fix thing you think it'll be.
3.1 the holy grail !!!
I didn't heard about something after 3.1... such as a 3.x or 4.0 ... what the future of Android ?
Afer 3.1? Ice Cream Sandwich. It is the unifying firmware to run both phone and tablets and anything in between. The holy grail of a smartphone OS. After that? Ice Cream Sandwich 2.0. Etc..
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Afer 3.1? Ice Cream Sandwich. It is the unifying firmware to run both phone and tablets and anything in between. The holy grail of a smartphone OS. After that? Ice Cream Sandwich 2.0. Etc..
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no
after that
Honeycomb will become Spicy Buritos 4.0 Ultimate Android version with the tequila notification and the samba starting screen
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Honeycomb will become Spicy Buritos 4.0 Ultimate Android version with the tequila notification and the samba starting screen
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Yeah, mexican food and brazilian music. That would be nice
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I think many, many people are thinking the 3.1 update is going to be the holy grail of Android.
I, for one, will be waiting to update - you lot can be the 'first adopters' and get all the bugs, I'll wait for 3.101.
3.1 will not be the all-fix thing you think it'll be.
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3.101? That could be a long wait
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3.101? That could be a long wait
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To be honest, I don't think so..
I think there will plenty of bugs in 3.1 - this forum will be FULL of posts about gps not working after update, or wifi, or mSD card, or whatever.
3.1.001 will be out before the end of August to address those faults.
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To be honest, I don't think so..
I think there will plenty of bugs in 3.1 - this forum will be FULL of posts about gps not working after update, or wifi, or mSD card, or whatever.
3.1.001 will be out before the end of August to address those faults.
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Why do you write such nonsense?
the port which is already made, which is not even perfect.. and its still pretty good..
fast browsing is the major i think for this release..
launcher less laggy
wifi,gps etc.. works pretty ok i think for a asus port..
so please.. false arguments.. 3.1 is already on our device in a unofficial port, and initial reports are good (if you please ignore media playback)
the official 3.1 can only be better, if acer do just as good!!
but we seem to have to wait alot longer for the official to get out..
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Why do you write such nonsense?
the port which is already made, which is not even perfect.. and its still pretty good..
fast browsing is the major i think for this release..
launcher less laggy
wifi,gps etc.. works pretty ok i think for a asus port..
so please.. false arguments.. 3.1 is already on our device in a unofficial port, and initial reports are good (if you please ignore media playback)
the official 3.1 can only be better, if acer do just as good!!
but we seem to have to wait alot longer for the official to get out..
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And what makes you think, out of all the things Acer have done (for eg. ignore all requests for unlocked loaders, ignore emails (well, ignore the first 3-7 emails), they'll make 3.1 'better' than it is.
EVERY time there's been an update from Acer, there are a flood of posts here about something not working after the update - why do you think 3.1 will be any different?
And, to paraphrase you - initial reports are good, but only if you ignore something that's bad.. and you really think that's a logical statement?
1940 - 1945 were lovely years to be alive, if you ignore that silly war thing.
3.1 is very likely to be better than 3.0 - if only because they've managed to fix 3.0's bugs (like ANY update).
I just think it'll come with it's own slew of both new and old-unfixed bugs, and this forum will once again be filled with posts about xx not working, or yy force closes when it didn't before, etc.
Lets face it, there's been, what?, 3 or 5 Acer download updates this year, all supposedly fixing something found wrong in the previous releases..
3.1 will have a host of bugs, and there'll be updates for it within 4 to 6 weeks of its release.. I've just said I'll be waiting for those updates, rather than bow down and praise the holy 3.1.
That's my opinion of the 3.1 release, you have no right to call it nonsense when it's based on the number of updates released to 3.0 this year.
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And what makes you think, out of all the things Acer have done (for eg. ignore all requests for unlocked loaders, ignore emails (well, ignore the first 3-7 emails), they'll make 3.1 'better' than it is.
EVERY time there's been an update from Acer, there are a flood of posts here about something not working after the update - why do you think 3.1 will be any different?
And, to paraphrase you - initial reports are good, but only if you ignore something that's bad.. and you really think that's a logical statement?
1940 - 1945 were lovely years to be alive, if you ignore that silly war thing.
3.1 is very likely to be better than 3.0 - if only because they've managed to fix 3.0's bugs (like ANY update).
I just think it'll come with it's own slew of both new and old-unfixed bugs, and this forum will once again be filled with posts about xx not working, or yy force closes when it didn't before, etc.
Lets face it, there's been, what?, 3 or 5 Acer download updates this year, all supposedly fixing something found wrong in the previous releases..
3.1 will have a host of bugs, and there'll be updates for it within 4 to 6 weeks of its release.. I've just said I'll be waiting for those updates, rather than bow down and praise the holy 3.1.
That's my opinion of the 3.1 release, you have no right to call it nonsense when it's based on the number of updates released to 3.0 this year.
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I think you're thinking of the Asus TF...
lord_voldemort666 said:
I think you're thinking of the Asus TF...
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thats what i think too.. they person is wrong this time. as its no business of Acer, but actually done by another comany..
people just want someone to blame for something...
I think Fluffbutt is just arguing to argue. His arguments suck, and are all pretty much unfounded.
There's only been one update for 3.0 per region that I'm aware of.
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thats what i think too.. they person is wrong this time. as its no business of Acer, but actually done by another comany..
people just want someone to blame for something...
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You fanbois ARE kidding, right?
I've had my A500 for about a month now, maybe six weeks, and it's updated twice from original in just that time!
You lot REALLY do love your Acers don't you.. you can't stand ANY dissension or disagreement about how wonderful things are (you should be on their payroll for marketing!)
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You lot REALLY do love your Acers don't you.. you can't stand ANY dissension or disagreement about how wonderful things are (you should be on their payroll for marketing!)
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you are in a developer forum, with all the custom roms for any model you can think of (almost).. so wtf would you care about what Acer can deliver of updates, if xda have the suppport required to get your tablet working..
we can only be so lucky that nvidia tegra2 is getting so popular and that platforms are almost 100% compatible.
i only ask acer to open the kernel source, so kernel developers can add the functionality missing.
but updates from acer? i dont need updates so often.. we need xda forums and more supporting the developer community..
if you can say "fanboy", you should associate that with nvida tegra2, and not the vendor here.. i chose Acer because of the hardware, not because of the company and its reputation.
Who wants a usb less tablet, if you get one with both sockets? (here i mean asus/motorola)
Samsung has said few days ago, that he would not update Galaxy S due to lack of memory for ICS and Touchwiz altogether. Today, there's a new info from our 'favourite' brand:
In spite of Samsung's best efforts to bury the news by reporting it a couple of days before Christmas, Friday's disclosure that the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab won't get upgraded to Android 4.0 drew a lot of justified ire. Now the company seems to be backtracking like a champ, as reported by ajnews in Korea, by claiming that it will review the viability of updating those two devices in response to strong customer demand. While restating the difficulties of fitting its entire software footprint onto the Galaxy S and Tab's limited memory capacity, Samsung has been quoted as saying it'll investigate ways to try and make it work. We've reached out to Samsung for official comment on the matter and will update you as soon as we hear back.
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via TheVerge.
goorek said:
Samsung has said few days ago, that he would not update Galaxy S due to lack of memory for ICS and Touchwiz altogether. Today, there's a new info from our 'favourite' brand:
via TheVerge.
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So? I dont care....theres will be more custom rom for it...
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good news ..!!! I hope we will get it.
i dont care either, samsung cant make a good smooth rom for galaxy s+ at all,
custom roms are always the best choice for us,
ics 4.0 will be ported to galaxy s+ sooner or later but one thing is clear, ported 4.0 especialy for galaxy s+ will be well optimized,smooth and fast and low memory issue will be solved
support our gr8 dev.team
regards
I know that, but for now on there isn't many custom roms for us. broodROM and Cranium, and the newest stock ones to flash. I appreciate their work, but they are based on the stock ones. and with ICS, that's a different thing to port it. and unfortuantely, I haven't seen much of a chance for the CyanogenMod or smth like this with ICS for our S+ yet. hope it will change.
c'mon guys. don't say u don't care. when samsung has decided not to release ICS for us you guys were complaining, now that samsung is reconsidering, you guys said i don't care?? yea right..
no matter we have custom rom or not, I would love to try out the official ICS.
and like the above mention, our dev is so poor that till this date there is so little choice of rom. how can u be so sure there would be ICS port for us? and if that didn't happen, u guys will be complaining again saying samsung is bad bla bla..
just be greatful jezz
I think it will be awesome!!
i saw only galaxy s and tab, why you are thinking that s+ is included into this list?
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i saw only galaxy s and tab, why you are thinking that s+ is included into this list?
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Galaxy s has few type of models, not only i9000..
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they never mention anything about i9001, this phone is like forgotten, in both Samsung and devs world. I just hope that when they mention Galaxy S, they think also about S+.
well guys.
my opinion is a little bit splitted:
in the one hand, i have my phone since september and i read the forum carefully and at this time the forum was very dad, the wasn´t a root anyway!
in the other hand:
our phone is getting very big. here in europe it is selling very good, because you can buy it with the price of the i9000 and it is better then the i9000.
i think it will grow but it will take alot of time, maybe we will reach at march a respectable community....
but only maybe
if all goes wrong we will stuck on only to custom roms...
i think we have to drink our tea and just wait.....
sry for my perfect english
greetings fabsau
fabsau said:
well guys.
my opinion is a little bit splitted:
in the one hand, i have my phone since september and i read the forum carefully and at this time the forum was very dad, the wasn´t a root anyway!
in the other hand:
our phone is getting very big. here in europe it is selling very good, because you can buy it with the price of the i9000 and it is better then the i9000.
i think it will grow but it will take alot of time, maybe we will reach at march a respectable community....
but only maybe
if all goes wrong we will stuck on only to custom roms...
i think we have to drink our tea and just wait.....
sry for my perfect english
greetings fabsau
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another non dev thread in the dev section.. nways, i heard the chinese community is big and that the I9001 is a very popular model there , and that they do a lot of developing on their own forums, hopefully that work will make it's way to xda sooner or later.
It shows that people much power is just great, but also continue to work hard.
This is great news!!!
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ICS porting
I think we have no devs here that can do what others done....ICS porting.
We are the only ones that are not trying or we dont have any idea about porting.....It realy hurts me to see such websites saying all android devices have ICS and we dont.....OK here check this site and say what you have to say........ http://software2tech.com/2011/11/30/android-4-0-devices-list/
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I think we have no devs here that can do what others done....ICS porting.
We are the only ones that are not trying or we dont have any idea about porting.....It realy hurts me to see such websites saying all android devices have ICS and we dont.....OK here check this site and say what you have to say........ http://software2tech.com/2011/11/30/android-4-0-devices-list/
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we can make use of other ports, like those from DHD/Xperia Arc S/I9000 , combining stuff from those 3 builds i'm pretty sure we can get a booting version with main things working. Devs from other devices have really done a lot, we just need some1 with the guts and basic knowledge to put things up together.
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we can make use of other ports, like those from DHD/Xperia Arc S/I9000 , combining stuff from those 3 builds i'm pretty sure we can get a booting version with main things working. Devs from other devices have really done a lot, we just need some1 with the guts and basic knowledge to put things up together.
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i belive there are few already
all we need is wait, the result will be here sooner or later,
on official list galaxy s+ i belive is on the bottom of samsung devices so our hope leading to gr8 developers here on xda.
regards
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I think we have no devs here that can do what others done....ICS porting.
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The main thing we are stuck is that this phone is totally forgotten. Except in China. No one is interested to develop anything for such piece of a device. There would be so useless number of users for those roms and mods.
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The main thing we are stuck is that this phone is totally forgotten. Except in China. No one is interested to develop anything for such piece of a device. There would be so useless number of users for those roms and mods.
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how can we get those Chinese guys to xda then ?
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how can we get those Chinese guys to xda then ?
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That's a problem as most of them don't speak english. Not offended or anything Post based on my own experience.
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I found something interesting on that Chinese I9001 forum. So it seems some students are trying to gather a group of developers. And the magical "4.0" seems to appear every now and then. Let's wait and see what will come The following text is not written by me. Google translator did the job.
"Here so long, no contribution has been in the water looking for fish Isle of Man, today, to drilled soil, that is to say that before in Saipan who worked with the community, did Moman's system, then go when, unexpectedly there confused the radical, then I heard, the day Moman inception, the hottest day, Oh, just get the points on the QQ stuff like that (because of bad mood, so hit wherever he goes, Oh, a joke) Now with my own 9001, so 4.0 Andrews also decided to get a working group, ad right Okay, we are using 4.0 and it was not previously Moman Nokia to lose, the community can be raised (of course from the master who does not open, right?) "
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I found something interesting on that Chinese I9001 forum. So it seems some students are trying to gather a group of developers. And the magical "4.0" seems to appear every now and then. Let's wait and see what will come The following text is not written by me. Google translator did the job.
"Here so long, no contribution has been in the water looking for fish Isle of Man, today, to drilled soil, that is to say that before in Saipan who worked with the community, did Moman's system, then go when, unexpectedly there confused the radical, then I heard, the day Moman inception, the hottest day, Oh, just get the points on the QQ stuff like that (because of bad mood, so hit wherever he goes, Oh, a joke) Now with my own 9001, so 4.0 Andrews also decided to get a working group, ad right Okay, we are using 4.0 and it was not previously Moman Nokia to lose, the community can be raised (of course from the master who does not open, right?) "
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Also found very interesting ROM made by the chinese http://translate.googleusercontent....1.html&usg=ALkJrhgrcANptLPgNgsL4x0zg0EJ6TYeew
Now that Samsung have released ICS for GS2, and Custom ROMs will now be ICS based (the majority, at least), this leads us to think... are these the last major OS updates Samsung will give our beloved GS2? Will we receive Jelly Bean, or, dare I say.. Key Lime Pie?
No is my guess. We may get a value pack!
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No is my guess. We may get a value pack!
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I agree, after seeing the fate of the Galaxy S.
We get directly a new phone delivered by samsung ceo
Galaxy S got Eclair froyo and GINGERBREAD so 3 os version
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I think there might be a possibility of jelly bean, I wouldn't rule it out just yet.
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We get directly a new phone delivered by samsung ceo
Galaxy S got Eclair froyo and GINGERBREAD so 3 os version
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Yes, but not only gingerbread, it got 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6 and 2.3.6 with a value pack, i consider that quite a lot of updates
Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.
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Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.
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Just to add to that people forget that we have at current moment the best ****ing dual core android phone on the market. so if samsung does stop their support we are damn sure that we have the best devs around to still support our phone with whatever OS comes out in the coming year. Devs come and go but i have read a post by one of the most respectful devs around in these forums and he is staying put...so as long as we have him we have nothing to worry about..
Now as regarding new OS...Jelly Bean, Key Lime, Fruity Pebbles, Kung Pao Chicken or whatever you want to have *****es please....ICS has just arrived and not in full force yet and you lot talking about new OS...What in the freaking blue hell is wrong with you lot? lol enjoy the goodness of ICS and go away for your summer holidays, spring break or whatever and then think about the new OS when the time is right...Jesus
Some countries never got an official 2.3.6 update for the GSII.
Some carriers, like ZTA (Claro, Brazil) are way too damn stupid to allow for updates.
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Now that Samsung have released ICS for GS2, and Custom ROMs will now be ICS based (the majority, at least), this leads us to think... are these the last major OS updates Samsung will give our beloved GS2? Will we receive Jelly Bean, or, dare I say.. Key Lime Pie?
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I will give you the answer once my crystal ball comes back from repairs.
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Just to add to that people forget that we have at current moment the best ****ing dual core android phone on the market. so if samsung does stop their support we are damn sure that we have the best devs around to still support our phone with whatever OS comes out in the coming year. Devs come and go but i have read a post by one of the most respectful devs around in these forums and he is staying put...so as long as we have him we have nothing to worry about..
Now as regarding new OS...Jelly Bean, Key Lime, Fruity Pebbles, Kung Pao Chicken or whatever you want to have *****es please....ICS has just arrived and not in full force yet and you lot talking about new OS...What in the freaking blue hell is wrong with you lot? lol enjoy the goodness of ICS and go away for your summer holidays, spring break or whatever and then think about the new OS when the time is right...Jesus
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Kung pao chicken!!!!!!!!!! +1. Would evolve our phones!!!
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I hope that there will be still some development from Samsung, because the sources of them improve the developing of alternative Roms for the phones.
If i´m right we can see this by the ICS roms, for example missing kernal sources for video record and still waiting for other sources from samsung for developers.
But i worry about that this will not look like that. Maybe some value pack, like other mentioned.
Recording to the update policy i think maybe should choose a google phone next time ? :/
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I hope that there will be still some development from Samsung, because the sources of them improve the developing of alternative Roms for the phones.
If i´m right we can see this by the ICS roms, for example missing kernal sources for video record and still waiting for other sources from samsung for developers.
But i worry about that this will not look like that. Maybe some value pack, like other mentioned.
Recording to the update policy i think maybe should choose a google phone next time ? :/
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well people talking about development and saying that in the next year samsung will kinda fade away it's support for the s2 why are you people worrying. if you actually read you guys should know that the first galaxy s1...i mean i go onto the forums over there and they still have enough development still going on. the same goes for here.
yes there is a lot of hype around the galaxy s3 and i am pretty sure that alot of devs can not wait to get their hands on it. but i am still sure that alot of respectful devs will wait around till a phone and handset that is worth going for and that they know they will get support from google itself, to purchase one ie the next Nexus. the development and the manner they get the updates and sources for that handset is brilliant and amazing. so for me by the looks of it my s2 still has plenty of life and i hope i still be here helping people when jelly bean or fruity pebbles comes along..and then when the new nexus comes along i will be buying that to
There's not much to think about now. Seeing how fast mobile phones evolve, the SGS2 might not even have the appropriate hardware for a new OS. I'm thinking full HD and bigger screens, hovering over screen sensors, screen projection, using the phone as a desktop, 3D stuff...
I'm awaiting Ics, and if and when i'm tired of it, I am sure i'm tired of my phone as well and buy a new one. This is a phone for hardware enthusiasts, one and a half years is more than enough for me.
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well people talking about development and saying that in the next year samsung will kinda fade away it's support for the s2 why are you people worrying. if you actually read you guys should know that the first galaxy s1...i mean i go onto the forums over there and they still have enough development still going on. the same goes for here.
yes there is a lot of hype around the galaxy s3 and i am pretty sure that alot of devs can not wait to get their hands on it. but i am still sure that alot of respectful devs will wait around till a phone and handset that is worth going for and that they know they will get support from google itself, to purchase one ie the next Nexus. the development and the manner they get the updates and sources for that handset is brilliant and amazing. so for me by the looks of it my s2 still has plenty of life and i hope i still be here helping people when jelly bean or fruity pebbles comes along..and then when the new nexus comes along i will be buying that to
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Yes its true that there is still a huge continuing development for SGS1 and there is atm a huge development for SGS2 and i also think that the development will also last very long. Especially because there is enough power in the SGS2 ( Hardware) to get along with further Updates.
So yes i worry that samsung will stop the developing for the phone maybe,but i also know that other DEvs will not
Without Flash support, i dont care about Android V5.
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Some countries never got an official 2.3.6 update for the GSII.
Some carriers, like ZTA (Claro, Brazil) are way too damn stupid to allow for updates.
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Lol for me in my country i got only one update wich is 2.3.3 we didnt recive aby update later than that .......
Im using odin to flash firmwares
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Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.
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I think we will. The Exynos + 1gb RAM is way ahead of it's time.
The Google upgrade agreement with all manufacturers is that all phones that are hardware capable will get upgrades for the first eighteen months from date of first sale of the model .
SGS2 3rd may 2012 .
Jellybean before Dec 2012 i would not think so .
jje
no way ,now new phones r online an wen a new model is out wiv jelly bean ,,,companies will force out an advertise tht phones so these old phones i don think ppl will remember...quad cores r already out