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Is it possible? Multi Bootloader instead of original ROM?

Has anyone made it? It'd be great if someone has cooked such ROM.
Imagine that you could switch between WM, Android and Linux. Or a port of iphone os for WM device.
Ohh, and good would be to have Symbian or BB OS ported, too!

czesioxda said:
Has anyone made it? It'd be great if someone has cooked such ROM.
Imagine that you could switch between WM, Android and Linux. Or a port of iphone os for WM device.
Ohh, and good would be to have Symbian or BB OS ported, too!
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sorry but keep on dreaming, that never will happen...
android is being ported and propably be bootable directly someday, but all the others...no. They are made for a completely different architecture, so it won't be possible

czesioxda said:
Has anyone made it? It'd be great if someone has cooked such ROM.
Imagine that you could switch between WM, Android and Linux. Or a port of iphone os for WM device.
Ohh, and good would be to have Symbian or BB OS ported, too!
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While ports iPhone OS, BB OS, and Symbian are absolutely out of the question, there are some potential ways they are looking at to natively boot Android. The most recent one would have to be here, and it makes use of code injection into the original SPL in order to boot Android directly, but it's still just an idea for the moment.

The Phone with the storage to include so many operation systems at once is yet to be invented....
...and besides... why would anyone want to downgrade his WM phone?

Right now i'm using wm 6.5 , liunix and hopefully will get android running in my phone (thanx to the hard work of the developers) but i can not book into liunix straight after soft reset... so has to go in wm6.5 and start it manually... I'm using HTC Universal....

RAMMANN said:
The Phone with the storage to include so many operation systems at once is yet to be invented....
...and besides... why would anyone want to downgrade his WM phone?
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Well it can boot from sd card.... and you can use one os at a time...

[POLL] When a NAND version is released, Will you flash?

First of all lets not turn this into a war of the mobile OS's....Everyone has their own oppinions and needs, which is why there will NEVER be a definitive answer to the Question: Which is better, WinMo or Android? So please dont start flamewars or fanboy arguments in this thread.
The purpose of this poll is to determine how many of you will be 'switching' to Android on a pemanent basis, and how many of you will be sticking with Windows Mobile in some capacity.
I ask this because originally when I first tested Android, I envisaged myself sticking with Windows Mobile when a flashable Android ROM was released.
Then as great progress began to be made with the AndroidHD2 development, I began to think that windows was dead to me and I eagerly awaited the NAND version of Android.
Now I am beginning to think that I might stick with a dual boot option even when the NAND version comes. Ideally I would like to have Android as my flashed ROM with a version of WM 6.5.x running from SD as a dual boot option.
So... When the NAND Flashable version of Android for HD2 comes...What will you do?
(I know this should be in the 'General HD2 Android' section but there isn't one...yet. Mods, please move when possible).

I like the widgets and backgrounds, android is just so much easier.
But for tomtom, I'll still be using my winmo. Some stuff just req windows to function.
So, best of both worlds, I guess..

If i can still retain WinMo then sure, why not... but if it's not possible then i'll stick to the Micro SD card. I wouldn't want to give up my ability to dual boot.
The Android builds are fast enough anyways on the card and i'm sure a class 6 Micro SD will be faster than the NAND anyways.

As well as in PCs, having dual boot means you can use both OSes Apps. So I will stick to dual boot.

I plan on buying the next big android phone tmobile and htc come up with (and i have a nexus one), so my hope for the hd2 is flashing wp7. I dont know if you nand flash if you would be able to flash wp7 if there are gonna be wp7 roms.

ANDROID: NAND
WINMO:SD card
Ubuntu: SD card
iOS4: SD card
and I wish having a new bootloader possible to select before splashscreen.
Cheer!

THANHVO31 said:
ANDROID: NAND
WINMO:SD card
Ubuntu: SD card
iOS4: SD card
and I wish having a new bootloader possible to select before splashscreen.
Cheer!
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Now THATS what Im talkin about!
Even the iOS4 might make it onto my card if a version was ever released for HD2...one more app store cant hurt

Here's the thing
If we flash Android to nand, will there be any going back? Will there ever be updates to future versions of android? This is the primary thing to me, if the dev's will continue to upgrade Android for future versions then I might flash, but if it's kind of a one and done, I'd probably stick with dual booting. I'm also hoping that there is eventually a wp7 port for the hd2 as well...

I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a class 6 card to keep dualboot, what do u guys think about the performance difference between NAND and Class 6?

HectiQ said:
I like the widgets and backgrounds, android is just so much easier.
But for tomtom, I'll still be using my winmo. Some stuff just req windows to function.
So, best of both worlds, I guess..
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same for me, the other gps software are.... not as good and easy as tomtom.
I will use Winmo for tomtom only and the rest on android
maybe tomtom release a android version

THANHVO31 said:
ANDROID: NAND
WINMO:SD card
Ubuntu: SD card
iOS4: SD card
and I wish having a new bootloader possible to select before splashscreen.
Cheer!
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Would it ever be possible to have iOS on a hd2? That would be great for all the extra apps.
I am happy with Android on SD card and dual booting.

I prefer the functionality of a dual boot, but in appealability I would much prefer to run Android as a day to day phone when the nand is finally ported. But I wouldn't jump in feet first,I'd hope that it was totally reversible and not flash back & forth,just that winmo could stay as an option to return to. And that the devs can continue to feed us with fresher versions when they become available.

umiss said:
I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a class 6 card to keep dualboot, what do u guys think about the performance difference between NAND and Class 6?
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And I'm thinking there is a different thread on that subject

i prefer winmo over the android , im returning to winmo , its just my openion :!

Bye bye winmo
The only thing that winmo is doing in my phone right now is to help me to run haret.

sure i would flash it, just to satisfy my curiosity, but i would eventually stick with dual booting winmo and android on SD.

NAND is so close....the Devs are finishing the structure port...them is a question of work to give the polish in all.
today the dev work is located on leds notification.
were is the status thread?
for the poll, I will make what turns more eficient the performance of Android....including the question of baterie life, very important.

pack21 said:
NAND is so close....the Devs are finishing the structure port...them is a question of work to give the polish in all.
today the dev work is located on leds notification.
were is the status thread?
for the poll, I will make what turns more eficient the performance of Android....including the question of baterie life, very important.
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This is great news! i really do start reading the dev channel logs to keep up to date

triple booting
i am sticking with triplebooting android ,ubuntu,winmo.i am using a class 4 card and the speed is great,moving up to class 6 .my hd2 with android scores better than my brothers evo on linpack,and quadrant.

At the moment I will stay on dual boot. Cant wait for a really stable Android for HD2 If we can get TomTom or iGO8 on Android then i will go with it on NAND.

Running NAND and WinMo...

Perhaps a stupid nob question - but here it goes...
I need to be able to still run WinMo 6.5.5 because we use some WinMo apps at work, so if i flash a Android NAND Rom, can i still boot WinMo in my custom ROM (Dutty v.13) with all the apps and stuff i have installed under WinMo?
Just need to know befor i flash a Andorid MNND rom.
It's easy to choose if you run Android from the SD card, but it would be nice to run a NAND Android Rom instead.

Nope. It is an either or situation with NAND. NAND completely erases the WinMob OS and puts android in it's place.
Just out of curiosity, what is it that you need windows for?

chvvkumar said:
Nope. It is an either or situation with NAND. NAND completely erases the WinMob OS and puts android in it's place.
Just out of curiosity, what is it that you need windows for?
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Thanks for the quick and precise respons ;-)
We only use mobil phones at work and have a littel app for directing calls and choosing witch phone queue we are on. And that littel app only works with WinMo :-(

I think dual booting is the best way to go for you. Use wnmo at work and android at home.
Or, ask your company to get on with the times and develop a port for Android and IOS

TBH I think you lose nothing with sticking to Android in RAM and running a sweet sweet custom Winmo 6.5 - I know that Android on HD2 is stellar, but between Laurentius 5.1, Energy, and Dutty you are really covered for WM6.5 as they are all superb.
But yes - NAND really does wipe WM completely
In all honesty RAM builds are faster than NAND ones for now.

Thanks guys - il'l stick with one of the new Android RAM builds.

HD2 Win6.5 + Win7

Hello xdadevs,
i have a question, is it possible to have win6.5 and win7.0 installed on a HTC HD2?
for example win6.5 on device and win7.0 on SD card?
i tried to find some info in the current threads but didnt find anything
thank you in advance

Hello.
It's not possible yet (maybe in future...?). Those are your posibilities:
- Windows Mobile from NAND (stock).
- WM6.5 in NAND, Android from SD Card.
- Android from NAND (no WM).
- Windows Phone 7 in NAND.
- Windows Phone 7 in NAND, Android from SD Card.
There are also other choices like WM in NAND and Ubuntu from sdcard (via HaRET.exe), but those are most popular.

Cotulla said that he is working on a SD version of WM6.5, so if that gets released, you have have wp7 on NAND and WM65 on SD... but it may be a while before that gets released.

thank u so much ppl, ill be in touch with forum to check cotulla's progress
ps:zarathustrax r we ...somehow related ? hehehe (your nick)

zarras said:
thank u so much ppl, ill be in touch with forum to check cotulla's progress
ps:zarathustrax r we ...somehow related ? hehehe (your nick)
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LOL... yeah, the first 3 letters are the same. I took my nick from Nietszche's book, which I read a lot in my youth... then just added an X. Don't remember exactly why... I think I was going for something like Zarathustra-X, but didn't separate the X or capitalize it. I don't know exactly what I was thinking at the time... it was a few years ago.
As far as progress about WM65 for SD, cotulla probably won't give updates on progress... probably will just release it suddenly when it's done... if it even works out and he finishes it. It's probably not a high priority for him with all the other projects he's working on, especially now that he's working on magldr for the Rhodium, too. Hopefully we'll see it in the next few months though. I look forward to tribooting wp7, android and WM65.

Android + WM on NAND
Hi
is possible to have Android **and** WM on Nand ???

OrsoNerOne said:
Hi
is possible to have Android **and** WM on Nand ???
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No you can only have one OS at a time in NAND. One because of limited space in NAND and to you would have to parition it even if you did have enough space and I do not think you can partition the NAND memory of a device as it is not like a actual hard drive or SD card.

[Q] SD or NAND ?

What are you think ?
Is better to install sd or nand android ?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909185

Fatih_np said:
What are you think ?
Is better to install sd or nand android ?
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depends highly on your preferences ... do you 1. like having winmo 6.x (and warranty if applicable) 2. want only android as main OS
both have pros and cons. personally i like having android on NAND because its more native (turn the phone on and it boots right into android as if it came factory installed) and windows mobile 6.x is a dead (officially no longer supported by MS)
one might prefer SD to have more freedom and ease switching between rom builds.
the decision (and intensive research on how to accomplish either SD or NAND) is ultimately up to you.
GOOD LUCK :-D

Definitly NAND as long as you dont have an app running under WinMob only.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid (HD2 Leo)

Of Course Nand, work a lot of smoother and who needs WM 6.5
Maybe if you need WP7 you can make Android on SD

I prefer sd

Since WinMo 6.5 is rubbish and you can do everything with Android in a faster and smarter way of course NAND is your choice.

I had this same question - I have an application that only works on WM6.5 - So I guess I will need SD?
Now I have to choose a ROM - Can anyone point me in the right direction - I want something stable, fast and not too much updating.
Regards
ADC

adchesney said:
I had this same question - I have an application that only works on WM6.5 - So I guess I will need SD?
Now I have to choose a ROM - Can anyone point me in the right direction - I want something stable, fast and not too much updating.
Regards
ADC
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If you want try SD with Sense, look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171237
Fast, stable, all work well. But not last version of Android...

If you don't plan on using both WinMo AND Android, I would definitely recommend NAND.
I tried both approaches and NAND ROMs are simply faster and more responsive (NAND memory is usually faster than SD).
If you are an HD2 Android beginner, you might first try to use an SD version to try things out and get the feel of the Andorid OS (SD builds are easier to install).
Then, if you decide that pure Android is the way to go, you can switch to a NAND build.
There are ROMs that are maintained in both SD and NAND versions - for example the AmeriCan Android, which I use and am totally satisfied with (SD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209474; and if I remember correctly, there should even be an Ice Cream Sandwitch version in the works).

Fatih_np said:
What are you think ?
Is better to install sd or nand android ?
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i chose sd only if i try sonthing new. like the ice cream sandwich. but imo is nand the right one.