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[POLL] When a NAND version is released, Will you flash?

First of all lets not turn this into a war of the mobile OS's....Everyone has their own oppinions and needs, which is why there will NEVER be a definitive answer to the Question: Which is better, WinMo or Android? So please dont start flamewars or fanboy arguments in this thread.
The purpose of this poll is to determine how many of you will be 'switching' to Android on a pemanent basis, and how many of you will be sticking with Windows Mobile in some capacity.
I ask this because originally when I first tested Android, I envisaged myself sticking with Windows Mobile when a flashable Android ROM was released.
Then as great progress began to be made with the AndroidHD2 development, I began to think that windows was dead to me and I eagerly awaited the NAND version of Android.
Now I am beginning to think that I might stick with a dual boot option even when the NAND version comes. Ideally I would like to have Android as my flashed ROM with a version of WM 6.5.x running from SD as a dual boot option.
So... When the NAND Flashable version of Android for HD2 comes...What will you do?
(I know this should be in the 'General HD2 Android' section but there isn't one...yet. Mods, please move when possible).

I like the widgets and backgrounds, android is just so much easier.
But for tomtom, I'll still be using my winmo. Some stuff just req windows to function.
So, best of both worlds, I guess..

If i can still retain WinMo then sure, why not... but if it's not possible then i'll stick to the Micro SD card. I wouldn't want to give up my ability to dual boot.
The Android builds are fast enough anyways on the card and i'm sure a class 6 Micro SD will be faster than the NAND anyways.

As well as in PCs, having dual boot means you can use both OSes Apps. So I will stick to dual boot.

I plan on buying the next big android phone tmobile and htc come up with (and i have a nexus one), so my hope for the hd2 is flashing wp7. I dont know if you nand flash if you would be able to flash wp7 if there are gonna be wp7 roms.

ANDROID: NAND
WINMO:SD card
Ubuntu: SD card
iOS4: SD card
and I wish having a new bootloader possible to select before splashscreen.
Cheer!

THANHVO31 said:
ANDROID: NAND
WINMO:SD card
Ubuntu: SD card
iOS4: SD card
and I wish having a new bootloader possible to select before splashscreen.
Cheer!
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Now THATS what Im talkin about!
Even the iOS4 might make it onto my card if a version was ever released for HD2...one more app store cant hurt

Here's the thing
If we flash Android to nand, will there be any going back? Will there ever be updates to future versions of android? This is the primary thing to me, if the dev's will continue to upgrade Android for future versions then I might flash, but if it's kind of a one and done, I'd probably stick with dual booting. I'm also hoping that there is eventually a wp7 port for the hd2 as well...

I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a class 6 card to keep dualboot, what do u guys think about the performance difference between NAND and Class 6?

HectiQ said:
I like the widgets and backgrounds, android is just so much easier.
But for tomtom, I'll still be using my winmo. Some stuff just req windows to function.
So, best of both worlds, I guess..
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same for me, the other gps software are.... not as good and easy as tomtom.
I will use Winmo for tomtom only and the rest on android
maybe tomtom release a android version

THANHVO31 said:
ANDROID: NAND
WINMO:SD card
Ubuntu: SD card
iOS4: SD card
and I wish having a new bootloader possible to select before splashscreen.
Cheer!
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Would it ever be possible to have iOS on a hd2? That would be great for all the extra apps.
I am happy with Android on SD card and dual booting.

I prefer the functionality of a dual boot, but in appealability I would much prefer to run Android as a day to day phone when the nand is finally ported. But I wouldn't jump in feet first,I'd hope that it was totally reversible and not flash back & forth,just that winmo could stay as an option to return to. And that the devs can continue to feed us with fresher versions when they become available.

umiss said:
I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a class 6 card to keep dualboot, what do u guys think about the performance difference between NAND and Class 6?
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And I'm thinking there is a different thread on that subject

i prefer winmo over the android , im returning to winmo , its just my openion :!

Bye bye winmo
The only thing that winmo is doing in my phone right now is to help me to run haret.

sure i would flash it, just to satisfy my curiosity, but i would eventually stick with dual booting winmo and android on SD.

NAND is so close....the Devs are finishing the structure port...them is a question of work to give the polish in all.
today the dev work is located on leds notification.
were is the status thread?
for the poll, I will make what turns more eficient the performance of Android....including the question of baterie life, very important.

pack21 said:
NAND is so close....the Devs are finishing the structure port...them is a question of work to give the polish in all.
today the dev work is located on leds notification.
were is the status thread?
for the poll, I will make what turns more eficient the performance of Android....including the question of baterie life, very important.
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This is great news! i really do start reading the dev channel logs to keep up to date

triple booting
i am sticking with triplebooting android ,ubuntu,winmo.i am using a class 4 card and the speed is great,moving up to class 6 .my hd2 with android scores better than my brothers evo on linpack,and quadrant.

At the moment I will stay on dual boot. Cant wait for a really stable Android for HD2 If we can get TomTom or iGO8 on Android then i will go with it on NAND.

[Q] U.S.A HD2 and Android

hay guys sorry id some of you get mad for me posting this here but this is the only place i know my qustion will get answered. OK im new to the windows phone deal. i have a mytouch slide and a g1 rooted so i under that hole part here is my ?.
From what i have read on the forums only build roms work with the hd2. well i would like to put android on it but after looking around most the roms on here and the links on here for putting android on the phone all lead to the LEO forum is the correct or no if not can someone tell me were to get the most resent android rom for the hd2 usa, now there seems to be two ways of installing it one is from sd card and 2 is from boot i would like to do it from boot any help would be grate thanks all and happy modding

Someone correct me if I am wrong...
There are not TWO ways of doing android.
Android is ALWAYS installed on the SD card. The only way to "boot" to it is to have your WM configured to boot the two files from your SD card required to run it, in essence there are a few apps that can do this at WM startup.
You will still need an Android friendly Windows Mobile ROM, so the stock from will not work. You also need a compatible radio.
I would check out the HD2 Android Dev forum for more info though.

JonSolo said:
Someone correct me if I am wrong...
There are not TWO ways of doing android.
Android is ALWAYS installed on the SD card. The only way to "boot" to it is to have your WM configured to boot the two files from your SD card required to run it, in essence there are a few apps that can do this at WM startup.
You will still need an Android friendly Windows Mobile ROM, so the stock from will not work. You also need a compatible radio.
I would check out the HD2 Android Dev forum for more info though.
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The Android port cannot replace the WinMo OS just yet. The only way is to install it to your SD Card and it will run off of that. There are apps that allow you to choose between WinMo and Android on bootup. The LEO Android forum is correct since Android builds do not matter which device it is booted on.
Android is able to run on the Stock ROM, but people have said it runs better with a different ROM/Radio.
The build I recommend is Energy ROM / Radio 2.12.50.02_2 and an Android Build of your choice, but you can always run it on the Stock if you feel like it.

gaarry said:
The build I recommend is Energy ROM / Radio 2.12.50.02_2 and an Android Build of your choice, but you can always run it on the Stock if you feel like it.
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+1 EnergyROM w/ 2.12.50.02 radio works very nicely for me.
pactive73 said:
can someone tell me were to get the most resent android rom for the hd2 usa
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I would look Here (FroyoStone thread) first and see how you like it. Latest release Sep 2nd.

Also when you download the Rom your prob wanna need the rmnt version. Froyostone is the best my far for me and bootloaders are for people with more then one Android Rom on there sdcard
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

[Q] Andriod on HD2 without WM?

Hello.
I have a HTC HD2, that I have been changing ROM's on for a while now.
Can't really find what I'm lokking for.
Is it possible to run Android on HTC HD2 without the need of WM ??
Hope that someone have a feedback on this....

tegbakke said:
Hello.
I have a HTC HD2, that I have been changing ROM's on for a while now.
Can't really find what I'm lokking for.
Is it possible to run Android on HTC HD2 without the need of WM ??
Hope that someone have a feedback on this....
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No not at this stage. I can recommend Miri's ROMs for android compatibility but havn't tried many others but there is currently no way to run Android on our HD2s without first booting into WM.
There are also a few ROM builds (see the HD2 android development thread) that have a lot cut out of them for faster operation/boot and there's also the option of using one of the developed Android loaders (boots WM then Android for you).

Not possible right now. The devs are working on a NAND version which will make it possible, but it's not available yet.

Highly recommend Energy's Titanium rom, its very lightweight and is perfect if you reboot your phone and want to get back to android fast.

I use ChuckyDroidROM as Winmo build (very low on all recourses), and put shubCRAFT 1.5 or mattc Froyo 1.7 on top of it.
Using the little boot app in the ROM it runs great now
Almost dont notice its a layer

Its cool to have 2 OS on 1 phone, why not?

Question seems to be answered. Thread closed.

Going from Win Mo 6.5 to Android

Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?

Duff33 said:
Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
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Apologies accepted since you missed alot of threads ! Most of us have Android on our HD2's .
It was very easy but you must do somethings first to guarantee a working Android on your HD2 . (Read the Guide on my Sig. )
You don't need to backup anything as the current Android doesn't touch your internal device memory (i.e. WinMo system files) It will run off your sd card.
Have fun

kawazaki said:
Apologies accepted since you missed alot of threads ! Most of us have Android on our HD2's .
It was very easy but you must do somethings first to guarantee a working Android on your HD2 . (Read the Guide on my Sig. )
You don't need to backup anything as the current Android doesn't touch your internal device memory (i.e. WinMo system files) It will run off your sd card.
Have fun
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I ran EVO android from SD without having to mod my OEM phone.
Just make sure you do follow the directions and update the kernel as some may leave the kernel out of the bucket of legs and thighs.
It did mess with my time and date everytime I booted back into the phones OS but everything else pretty much was the same.
No speed improvements, may be a wee faster if loaded on phones memory.
Evertything the EVO Android had I had on my OEM phone, just different names on some apps.
Once I got my WM6.5 setup properly Android was usless to me.
Like linux it is a sloooooooooo booter. That is the deal breaker for me.
I like 30 second boots at the most. 20 seconds for a desktop is slow!

HD2 will live!!
HD2 with its name LEO is really a king to the jungle out there with its new era of a great processor, an outstanding screen and a sexy look!!
Wm 6.5 is fine but android really excells in combining wm and ios and making a neat interface with user friendly handling!
I'm so meticulous with my device and using stock rom and radio, i tried android from one of the great builds done by MDJ (thanx a lot to him)
It doesn't do any harm coz i didn't need to upgrade rom nor ram and everything is dealt with thru sdcard
if u don't like it; just format or erase the android folders or just leave it there if u have a big memory
it's awesome by all means!! give it a try u wont loose anything!!
TMOUS stock rom 2.10 and radio 2.08

sevoflurane said:
HD2 with its name LEO is really a king to the jungle out there with its new era of a great processor, an outstanding screen and a sexy look!!
Wm 6.5 is fine but android really excells in combining wm and ios and making a neat interface with user friendly handling!
I'm so meticulous with my device and using stock rom and radio, i tried android from one of the great builds done by MDJ (thanx a lot to him)
It doesn't do any harm coz i didn't need to upgrade rom nor ram and everything is dealt with thru sdcard
if u don't like just format or erase the android folders or just leave it there if u have a big memory
it's awesome by all means!! give it try u wont loose anything!!
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Hi there
Are you saying, that you've managed to run adndroid on your leo with stock Rom and radio? Thing is, that I would also like to try android on my handset, but I'm too scared to hurt it in any way - hence not too keen on changing rom / radio - which seem to be only way according to info I've managed to find so far
Would you care to share your phone configuration, to see what you're running?
Many thanks.

krzyzag said:
I would also like to try android on my handset, but I'm too scared to hurt it in any way - hence not too keen on changing rom / radio - which seem to be only way according to info I've managed to find so far
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Your current configuration won't run Android. It needs a radio of at least 2.08.50 (MUST be a .50, NOT a .51!!!) The ROM is irrelevant - only the radio matters to Android.
There is an official ROM upgrade available that takes you up to a 3.14 ROM with a 2.15.50 radio, but I don't know if you can use that without HSPL as you have a branded handset.
It may be possible to just upgrade the radio, from the HD2 ROMs thread, and leave your Windows ROM as it is.

Duff33 said:
Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
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They are two separate systems - WinMo in the phone's ROM and Android on the Phone's SD Card.
The only real requirement is that your RADIO must be at least 2.08.50 (any one higher than that with a .50 will do). So you need to know what software you already have:
Settings -> About phone -> Software information. Here you will see the Rom, Radio versions. If the radio is not correct, then we'll go through the procedure on how to update it.
The chefs in the Android ROM section give details on what you download and how to set it up.
As for backing up, there should be no need to (as they are independent systems), but better safe than sorry; install SPB Backup. Even if you weren't thinking of running Android, having a backup is always advisable.

mismatch
I have a bootscreen on WM that shows 3.14 as the ROM but in Settings/phone/ software information it still shows 1.48 and a date of 09/29/10.
Is this normal? does this mean my upgrade failed?
Radio release is same on both - 2.15.50.14

modified2 said:
I have a bootscreen on WM that shows 3.14 as the ROM but in Settings/phone/ software information it still shows 1.48 and a date of 09/29/10.
Is this normal? does this mean my upgrade failed?
Radio release is same on both - 2.15.50.14
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Don't worry about what is says when Windows is running. The value shown then is from the registry, so it can be changed. Have you done a restore from a backup application by any chance?

[Q] SD or NAND ?

What are you think ?
Is better to install sd or nand android ?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909185

Fatih_np said:
What are you think ?
Is better to install sd or nand android ?
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depends highly on your preferences ... do you 1. like having winmo 6.x (and warranty if applicable) 2. want only android as main OS
both have pros and cons. personally i like having android on NAND because its more native (turn the phone on and it boots right into android as if it came factory installed) and windows mobile 6.x is a dead (officially no longer supported by MS)
one might prefer SD to have more freedom and ease switching between rom builds.
the decision (and intensive research on how to accomplish either SD or NAND) is ultimately up to you.
GOOD LUCK :-D

Definitly NAND as long as you dont have an app running under WinMob only.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid (HD2 Leo)

Of Course Nand, work a lot of smoother and who needs WM 6.5
Maybe if you need WP7 you can make Android on SD

I prefer sd

Since WinMo 6.5 is rubbish and you can do everything with Android in a faster and smarter way of course NAND is your choice.

I had this same question - I have an application that only works on WM6.5 - So I guess I will need SD?
Now I have to choose a ROM - Can anyone point me in the right direction - I want something stable, fast and not too much updating.
Regards
ADC

adchesney said:
I had this same question - I have an application that only works on WM6.5 - So I guess I will need SD?
Now I have to choose a ROM - Can anyone point me in the right direction - I want something stable, fast and not too much updating.
Regards
ADC
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If you want try SD with Sense, look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171237
Fast, stable, all work well. But not last version of Android...

If you don't plan on using both WinMo AND Android, I would definitely recommend NAND.
I tried both approaches and NAND ROMs are simply faster and more responsive (NAND memory is usually faster than SD).
If you are an HD2 Android beginner, you might first try to use an SD version to try things out and get the feel of the Andorid OS (SD builds are easier to install).
Then, if you decide that pure Android is the way to go, you can switch to a NAND build.
There are ROMs that are maintained in both SD and NAND versions - for example the AmeriCan Android, which I use and am totally satisfied with (SD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209474; and if I remember correctly, there should even be an Ice Cream Sandwitch version in the works).

Fatih_np said:
What are you think ?
Is better to install sd or nand android ?
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i chose sd only if i try sonthing new. like the ice cream sandwich. but imo is nand the right one.