I have yet to figure this out. There is always something wrong with all of these builds. By no means am I complaining because I couldn't do better but just want to know. As in fully I mean wifi tethering, phone speaker, camera, etc. I just want the basic froyo on my US T-Mobile. Nothing extra or fancy or without updating my radio. If I give someone my software info could they help me out? Thanks
fordking said:
I have yet to figure this out. There is always something wrong with all of these builds. By no means am I complaining because I couldn't do better but just want to know. As in fully I mean wifi tethering, phone speaker, camera, etc. I just want the basic froyo on my US T-Mobile. Nothing extra or fancy or without updating my radio. If I give someone my software info could they help me out? Thanks
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This is the wrong section for this question. But my everyday build is mdeejays http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
or Coredroid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8214568&postcount=1
They both work perfectly for me.
Read this page tell all new info added to kernel, most of the roms are fully working only some of them have few issues, ave personally not had many problems
Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646
mattc 1.8 with hastarin 7.1 - I can't find anything wrong in this combination, apart from the premature flash when taking photos in the dark. But everything else - is just the purest perfection
Ops and Devs - I know this thread is in the wrong place, but I would advise on letting this live, as it will prove that there is no such thing as best ROM. People will put different ROMs as their favourite - and at the end of the day I am sure that all of the variation will be mentioned at least once - hence proving the point
the annoying truth is most of the builds differ from person to person - so the best way to find out which build is best for you, well, you've just got to try it out for yourself!
if you're having problems, you may want to try changing your winmo rom, radio etc, just incase the problems that you're getting are to do with that
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the annoying truth is most of the builds differ from person to person - so the best way to find out which build is best for you, well, you've just got to try it out for yourself!
if you're having problems, you may want to try changing your winmo rom, radio etc, just incase the problems that you're getting are to do with that
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I couldnt agree with you more.
NONE...
Either you get music skip, rotation problems, cam not flashing correctly or wifi and 3g not working correctly, bluetooth problems and sudden freezes, all a bit like good old Windows mobile really, but its getting there...soon it will be the best Android device available
As stated already.
All builds are different, and you will need to find the one that fits you best.
I want to start out that I know there is a "guide" on the different ROMS.
But I want real reasons/thoughts on the different Android Roms available for our HD2s, and not have to go through 5 million posts.
What do you use daily and why, and your thoughts on the ROM?
Thanks.
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I want to start out that I know there is a "guide" on the different ROMS.
But I want real reasons/thoughts on the different Android Roms available for our HD2s, and not have to go through 5 million posts.
What do you use daily and why, and your thoughts on the ROM?
Thanks.
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Good luck. Everytime someone asks this question they get the same answer. Haha.
Indeed...and here it is...there is no "best" Android build, only what is best for you. Each one is different, and no person's opinion should make you go for one build over another, as each persons situation is different. THE advice to you, is to download a few, read like there is no tomorrow, and try a bunch until you find the one that works best for your needs.
I am aware there is no "best" ROM. I ws just asking what people's opinions/thoughts on the ROM(s) they use daily. I have nothing against trying different ROMS and have read about some at this point I would like something with decent fuunctionlity, esy on the battery and properly working wifi.
I am currently running Sergo's core droid v0.6, my only issues with it so far is wifi does not work, after a couple inutes the touchscreen is non responsive and I have to put it to sleep and back on to get it to work again.
So as stated I want to know how people like their current ROMS, not which one is best.
So I have expernce with CDMA phones and roms with android and all the way back to widnows mobile as well so I know what mostly to do. BUT I have STOCK gingerbread when I bought it from the store. So How do I go about doing this? I kinda want a Blurless rom. like stock everything and STOCK messagaing the full google expernace to say lol.
Well What do I need to do? I seen the main sticky thread in android dev BUT it doesnt really tell me anything much.
So how do I go about doing this??
Or maybe atleast a battery mod with the stock rom and the Wireless tether. And maybe something to help make the signal refresh much quicker than it does
Thanks
Check out the noob sticky. And then head on over to the development forum and start shopping. Well, reading first. Then shop.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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Check out the noob sticky. And then head on over to the development forum and start shopping. Well, reading first. Then shop.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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Well, I tried that. But It doesnt make much since to me. It says I must look into this and that well its confusing. Could u Paste here the part I need? and or how to?
Im not much of a linker, and im on phone. Type pudding in the search bar in the development forum. You're going to have download a couple things, flash a file or two, fastboot oem unlock a few times and make sure you read ahead in case you mess up. And read. And read ahead. We don't need another I bricked my pants thread. To tell the truth im not sure which rom is the best for blurless. You'll have to do that on your own or wait for an answer. Cyanogenmod 7 is being done for our phone. That will be a really good option for AOSP rather than stock. Its still in beta and slightly broken.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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Im not much of a linker, and im on phone. Type pudding in the search bar in the development forum. You're going to have download a couple things, flash a file or two, fastboot oem unlock a few times and make sure you read ahead in case you mess up. And read. And read ahead. We don't need another I bricked my pants thread. To tell the truth im not sure which rom is the best for blurless. You'll have to do that on your own or wait for an answer. Cyanogenmod 7 is being done for our phone. That will be a really good option for AOSP rather than stock. Its still in beta and slightly broken.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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Okay thanks. How would U load the 1% battery mod? or something for better battery life? And on the stock rom? and how could I load a better radio? and what about be better for a low signal area and something that refreshes the signal alot faster than a min
You have separate radio flashes. Read up on the ones that are compatible with your phone and/or region/carrier. Im assuming most roms have the 1% mod built in now. Should be in the features/changelog of X rom you decide to download.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
And I think there are only two kernels available. The atrix handles everything pretty well as far as battery life. Be realistic about your usage. Dont expect all day battery life when you're playing tegra games or watching streaming youtibes videos off a cell signal. If you're game for oc'ing or better yet undervolting im assuming faux123 is the kernel to dl. This requires a lot of reading if you are unfamiliar with how a kernel works, and what oc'ing/uv'ing are. Before you even download a kernel you should untick "load on boot" in setcpu.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Keep an eye on the CM7 beta builds. They're currently the only way to get a blur-free rom, and its somehwat buggy(no camera, drops calls) but once those get fixed it would be perfect for day to day use.
To flash any roms, you'll need to unlock your bootloader. Look up pudding.
Hello again. I have been flirting with the idea of flashing a custom ROM, but never could bring myself to do it, mostly because, up until now, I didn't have a mainstream phone (Milestone X with nTelos). Now that I have a Nexus 4, I know that it's completely feasible. But, I have several questions before I do. Most of them are about comparisons, but some are about topics that I just don't understand. I know that probably every question has been answered on here somewhere, but the problem with finding the answers lies in sifting through hundreds of pages of threads and topics, where people are talking about a hundred different things. It's quite the overwhelming task to even know where to start. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask those questions here.
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
What I'm really looking for in a custom ROM isn't completely the ability to customize every last detail and setting. Rather, I'm mostly interested in something that just 'pops'.. something that looks and feels awesome compared to a stock ROM. Beauty, speed, responsiveness and most of all, battery life, are what I'm after.
Speaking of responsiveness, I've learned that this community is A+ when it comes to assisting those of us that seek more Android knowledge, so, allow me to say 'thanks' ahead of time!
Btw, obviously, I'm running stock 4.2.2, am unlocked and rooted, and have TWRP recovery.
Regards.
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Hello again. I have been flirting with the idea of flashing a custom ROM, but never could bring myself to do it, mostly because, up until now, I didn't have a mainstream phone (Milestone X with nTelos). Now that I have a Nexus 4, I know that it's completely feasible. But, I have several questions before I do. Most of them are about comparisons, but some are about topics that I just don't understand. I know that probably every question has been answered on here somewhere, but the problem with finding the answers lies in sifting through hundreds of pages of threads and topics, where people are talking about a hundred different things. It's quite the overwhelming task to even know where to start. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask those questions here.
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
What I'm really looking for in a custom ROM isn't completely the ability to customize every last detail and setting. Rather, I'm mostly interested in something that just 'pops'.. something that looks and feels awesome compared to a stock ROM. Beauty, speed, responsiveness and most of all, battery life, are what I'm after.
Speaking of responsiveness, I've learned that this community is A+ when it comes to assisting those of us that seek more Android knowledge, so, allow me to say 'thanks' ahead of time!
Btw, obviously, I'm running stock 4.2.2, am unlocked and rooted, and have TWRP recovery.
Regards.
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1. No
2. No
3. Lots to fear. Can go back though.
4. Search, read, & learn a bit before you start flashing. You need to know EVERYTHING about everything ahead of flashing.
5. Apps are OS version / phone / country dependent.
6. Yes
You have a bit of searching but l o a d s of reading ahead of you.
Good luck!
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1. No
2. No
3. Lots to fear. Can go back though.
4. Search, read, & learn a bit before you start flashing. You need to know EVERYTHING about everything ahead of flashing.
5. Apps are OS version / phone / country dependent.
6. Yes
You have a bit of searching but l o a d s of reading ahead of you.
Good luck!
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I guess I'm not understanding your answers to numbers 1 and 2. Are you saying you can't answer those questions, or that you won't.
As for the rest, thanks, really. But although I generally always appreciate brevity, it doesn't really help me here. I have done a lot of reading on the topic, but the problem is that everyone that's talking about this custom ROM or that one already knows quite a bit, and is discussing some quite technical (like flashing this radio or that one). Another main problem I have is that I'm not sure which ROM I'd like to flash. If I could narrow it down by features, pros and cons, then I could narrow my attention to that particular ROM, and save myself a lot of trouble.
wvcadle said:
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
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1. Google have yet to release their Binaries to AOSP so many of the AOSP based ROMs are still unstable / nightly
2. This CNET article is a good starting point (here)
3. Maybe ADB backup is better to backup your app APKs and data, and an ADB sdcard pull is better to backup your sdcard. Nandroid is good if your restoring a ROM back to an earlier snapshot, but can become messy going from, say, CM10.1 back to stock
4. search and read, read, read
thats all I got. Good luck.
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I guess I'm not understanding your answers to numbers 1 and 2. Are you saying you can't answer those questions, or that you won't.
As for the rest, thanks, really. But although I generally always appreciate brevity, it doesn't really help me here. I have done a lot of reading on the topic, but the problem is that everyone that's talking about this custom ROM or that one already knows quite a bit, and is discussing some quite technical (like flashing this radio or that one). Another main problem I have is that I'm not sure which ROM I'd like to flash. If I could narrow it down by features, pros and cons, then I could narrow my attention to that particular ROM, and save myself a lot of trouble.
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Only you can answer them.
Start with a simple rom, with few modifications so you don't get overwhelmed.
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I was reading for a week before I rooted and flashed a rom on my n1, can guarantee you many if not most in here started like that.
You want to have it all answered in a thread & spooned to you?
I'm sorry to say but you're starting wrong.
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Only you can answer them.
Start with a simple rom, with few modifications so you don't get overwhelmed.
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I was reading for a week before I rooted and flashed a rom on my n1, can guarantee you many if not most in here started like that.
You want to have it all answered in a thread & spooned to you?
I'm sorry to say but you're starting wrong.
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Believe me, I'm not asking for anything to be spooned to me. I mean, if I could at least get some help in figuring out which ROM I'd like to flash, that would be appreciated. I could certainly do the leg work if I could just get help deciding on which ROM. I stated in my OP the type of things I'd like to have in a custom ROM. Didn't what I posted put one or two in your head? If so, may I ask which ones? Even with your opening sentence of this reply, you said to start with a simple rom. Any examples?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009561
At least he has an op that explains a fair bit.
Roastgoat said:
1. Google have yet to release their Binaries to AOSP so many of the AOSP based ROMs are still unstable / nightly
2. This CNET article is a good starting point (here)
3. Maybe ADB backup is better to backup your app APKs and data, and an ADB sdcard pull is better to backup your sdcard. Nandroid is good if your restoring a ROM back to an earlier snapshot, but can become messy going from, say, CM10.1 back to stock
4. search and read, read, read
thats all I got. Good luck.
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They are more stable than you think, i wouldnt call some of the better ones unstable or nightlies. i've been running aokp for a few months now and it's very stable no major bugs over stock rom for me.
wvcadle - It's hard to say what the best roms are since that's mostly personal taste but some of the more popular roms are ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, Xylon and slimbean. There is a questions section that has lots of threads comparing roms.
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They are more stable than you think, i wouldnt call some of the better ones unstable or nightlies. i've been running aokp for a few months now and it's very stable no major bugs over stock rom for me.
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I have tried PA and CM10.1, both of which I liked but some minor issues have me back to stock and waiting for stable releases. I think personally I would go CM10.1 once stable.
Test several ROMs, then decide which one better fits your expectations. Nobody can tell which is the best.
I have tested 3 or 4, then I went back to stock and just added some tweeks to it. But hey, that's me!
JanusDC said:
Test several ROMs, then decide which one better fits your expectations. Nobody can tell which is the best.
I have tested 3 or 4, then I went back to stock and just added some tweeks to it. But hey, that's me!
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I think I'm going to try Modaco's ROM first. Do you know what Kernel it uses? Is it the stock kernel? I'd like to flash Franco's kernel, as I hear it has improved battery life.
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I think I'm going to try Modaco's ROM first. Do you know what Kernel it uses? Is it the stock kernel? I'd like to flash Franco's kernel, as I hear it has improved battery life.
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I wouldn't jump into kernel flashing so fast. I'd try a couple of ROMs first.
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I wouldn't jump into kernel flashing so fast. I'd try a couple of ROMs first.
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Well, I just flashed my first Custom ROM. I'm pretty stoked! Even though it's one of the simpler ROMs, it's still pretty cool. Hopefully I don't get hooked!
So, is flashing a custom kernel more dangerous than ROMs? I heard Franco has an app he created to flash his kernels.
I wouldn't say its dangerous. There's just more things to tweak and mess with. Voltages, gamma, CPU speed, etc. I'd just get comfortable with flashing ROMs and finding what you want first. And yes, flashing is an addiction. You will now flash hundreds of times only to find you want to flash a hundred more.
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I wouldn't say its dangerous. There's just more things to tweak and mess with. Voltages, gamma, CPU speed, etc. I'd just get comfortable with flashing ROMs and finding what you want first. And yes, flashing is an addiction. You will now flash hundreds of times only to find you want to flash a hundred more.
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Will the other ROMs not work right out of the box, or would I need to tweak all of those settings to get them to work?
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All the ROMs will work out the box. Developers will not turn over incomplete ROMs to the end users. Like now I'm using Paranoid Android...works beautifully, but there are tons of settings built in to mess with. Other ROMs don't have some of its features and vise versa. With kernels, I use the stock kernel with it. I've flashed other kernels but in MY opinion, I like the stock one. So read up on some ROMs, back up and flash some to see what you will like
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TBH it will take you some time to learn everything. All the questions you need answered will come in time with you learning Android. Its best to learn by LOTS of reading but you also need some trial and error. You will learn what Roms work best for you and which dont. You will see that you dont always need a custom kernel, and perhaps your screen only needs to 2 more clicks of saturation to have 2.2 gamma while others need to tweak across the board. Once again you gain that knowledge over time. You will get in trouble from time to time, not have help and possibly brick badly, but you learn to fix and work it out, and THAT is really where you learn lots. When you hit a roadblock READ and you will have your answer and in the process gain the knowledge you need.
Good luck and enjoy the hobby!
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All the ROMs will work out the box. Developers will not turn over incomplete ROMs to the end users. Like now I'm using Paranoid Android...works beautifully, but there are tons of settings built in to mess with. Other ROMs don't have some of its features and vise versa. With kernels, I use the stock kernel with it. I've flashed other kernels but in MY opinion, I like the stock one. So read up on some ROMs, back up and flash some to see what you will like
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You've been a great help. Really. And I appreciate it. I just realized there was a 'Thanks' button on this forum, so you've got my first one.
One last question, and I'll leave you be... promise (I think!): The three things I'm most concerned with in a ROM deal with power consumption, speed, and, yes, beauty. I can safely say I will never try to overclock my phone, or change any really deep settings. Do those three items bring any specific ROM or two to mind that you can point me in the direction towards?
Thanks again!
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You've been a great help. Really. And I appreciate it. I just realized there was a 'Thanks' button on this forum, so you've got my first one.
One last question, and I'll leave you be... promise (I think!): The three things I'm most concerned with in a ROM deal with power consumption, speed, and, yes, beauty. I can safely say I will never try to overclock my phone, or change any really deep settings. Do those three items bring any specific ROM or two to mind that you can point me in the direction towards?
Thanks again!
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No problem. Glad I could help.
And your last question is the ultimate question...lol. It's all about how you use your phone. One ROM might be more efficient for you than it would be for me. You might watch a lot of videos and don't have good reception. That could drain your battery. I'd go with ROMs that have a good thread. Read and read about the ROM before you flash it. Read the first pages and the last. I personally like Paranoid Android and AOKP ROMs. Look in the original development section and read up on Liquid Smooth, AOKP, and Paranoid Android. They are really great out the box and no overclocking or "deep settings" needed. If you have any questions about the two I like I'll be more than happy to answer any questions. Just PM or email me.
Ok, MoDaCo on my N4 and PA 3.0 on my N7!
Yes, flashing custom roms is becoming a hobby!