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5 Ways ATT/Iphone Rip you off!

Great FACTUAL article on more ways ATT/Iphone rip you off
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9178836/5_ways_iPhone_users_get_ripped_off?taxonomyId=75

It's actually a pretty bad article. They're talking about practice from all the carriers. Also I want to see this .Nelson data that says most smartphone users use 0 bytes of mobile data a month.
Also carriers subsidize smartphones by more than regular phones so of course etf is higher.
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I really hate AT&T but I have to agreed that's a pretty horrible article...
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donatom3 said:
It's actually a pretty bad article. They're talking about practice from all the carriers. Also I want to see this .Nelson data that says most smartphone users use 0 bytes of mobile data a month.
Also carriers subsidize smartphones by more than regular phones so of course etf is higher.
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I really hate jumping on the bandwagon but Donatom is right that is a really horrible article. Most ALL carriers work the exact same way. Also if you don't use data on a smartphone you really shouldn't have a smartphone.
With that said and done the article should have said how Cell phone users are being ripped off or something like that it would have made more sense....but not much

Thanks for starting this thread with valuable information/opinions/comments/questions about the htc evo/sprint in this htc evo forum...

[Q] Sprint I dare you to announce the Shift and a WP7 Device then be done...

I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU
NO
I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!
But seriously
I just thought of this, they havent announced a WP7 ala the HTC 7 Pro I swear if its that and the shift why I outta give 'em a black eye!

Blitzpwnage said:
I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU
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I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!
But seriously
I just thought of this, they havent announced a WP7 ala the HTC 7 Pro I swear if its that and the shift why I outta give 'em a black eye!
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Lol the title is funny.

I wasn't aware there were any CDMA WP7 phones yet.

cruise350 said:
I wasn't aware there were any CDMA WP7 phones yet.
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yeah they delayed them to 2011 for cdma

Not that I really care about this thread...however for some reason I see sprint's "tongue stick to the iced flagpole" //Christmas story....
Cuz they read this and everything

d3x502 said:
not that i really care about this thread...however for some reason i see sprint's "tongue stick to the iced flagpole" //christmas story....
Cuz they read this and everything
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and someone understands the meaning of my most useless thread ever!!! The truth will set you freee!!!!

All we need sprint to do is give us the Evo 2

Sprint better release some phones and honeycomb tablets one reason why sprint is losing customers is poor choice of phones
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cesarcerros31 said:
Sprint better release some phones and honeycomb tablets one reason why sprint is losing customers is poor choice of phones
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Losing customers? They're actually activating more customers than ever

cesarcerros31 said:
Sprint better release some phones and honeycomb tablets one reason why sprint is losing customers is poor choice of phones
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AT&T is proof you can ride one good phone to profit. Regardless, I believe you're confusing Sprint with T-Mobile.

NHLWil said:
AT&T is proof you can ride one good phone to profit. Regardless, I believe you're confusing Sprint with T-Mobile.
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+1
I hate T-Mobile
I've got 4 letters for the OP
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another poster in another thread said that the Evo and the other big boys were demo'd at CTIA and Sprint doesn't really announce anything at CES.

cesarcerros31 said:
Sprint better release some phones and honeycomb tablets one reason why sprint is losing customers is poor choice of phones
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i believe i read sprint will be getting a webos tablet and a new webos phone in addition to the wp7 device. id say that's enough for right now. as far as an evo2 it's all speculation.

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I hate T-Mobile
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actually t-mobile has improved alot since i was last with them and they have a decent lineup of phones available. that's where my wife and i are going when we leave sprint in a few months.

fixxxer2008 said:
actually t-mobile has improved alot since i was last with them and they have a decent lineup of phones available. that's where my wife and i are going when we leave sprint in a few months.
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leave uncapped internet for capped internet? great.

JUST2SUAVE said:
leave uncapped internet for capped internet? great.
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Unlimited internet with throttling over 5 GB - I think it forces edge after that point. Plus you don't pay extra for HSPA+. If you pay month to month, it's very cheap. If you get a Nexus 1 and I think S (since you can undetectably use cheap non-smart phone data plans), it can be significantly cheaper than Sprint.

Award Tour said:
Unlimited internet with throttling over 5 GB - I think it forces edge after that point. Plus you don't pay extra for HSPA+. If you pay month to month, it's very cheap. If you get a Nexus 1 and I think S (since you can undetectably use cheap non-smart phone data plans), it can be significantly cheaper than Sprint.
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wow,im going to tmobile too.

NHLWil said:
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In my opinion t-mobile has the best selection of phones around.
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OneStepAhead said:
In my opinion t-mobile has the best selection of phones around.
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Sadly this is the truth. I so want the g2, and would drop the evo in a hearbeat for a g2 on sprint.

Here's something, ermm, interesting.

Saw this as a comment on an androidcentral post about the within:
Listen up and listen good cuz I don't lie or play when it comes to this stuff... Sprint Is kicking but this year and will continue that but kicking like none of you can imagine. I am a sprint employee work at the West Hollywood Store in CA. It's the flagship store for the west coast Dan Hesse frequents our store device's come through our store sometimes up to 5 months before a rumor about it hits the internet. This is a HUGE year for sprint if you understand business in the least bit you know corporate change takes time. If you can't see the changes sprint has made and continue to make for the better than your just blind or don know what to look for. I know some of you may call me bias and your right I am. But only to one thing and that's customer experience. I love that SPRINT by maintaining is price plans is forcing AT& T and T-Mob todo stuff like the 70 dollar unlimited data even if it is capped. Yes thee above pic is the GS2 i've held it. YES it will be 4G yes we are getting a keyboard version as well as the standard GS2. Yes that phone will also be 4G and dual core not single core. The its not for certain it will be the epic2 or called epic at all. Yes the GS2 is a vicious competitor for the Evo 3D from personal experience I still think the Evo 3D is better. I prefer sense over touch anything I trust htc more than samsungs when it comes to mobile anything and the internal update system htc uses not having to wait for sprint like the last two patches they did for the 3d speaks volumes. Add htcsense.com to that and better build quality and you begin to edge out the competition. Admittedly not by much with the GS2 but still its an edge. As far as the YouTube comparisons of the GS2 to the Sensation to gauge it again the 3D, don't make me laugh the 3D itself makes the sensation look the same way. In no way am I denying the amazingness that is the GS2 I just PREFER htc that's all. Last but not least the GS2 is really really fast it was a tad and I do mean a TAD faster than my 3D but..... My Evo is jam packed 6 email accounts syncing about 80 apps 7 custom scenes setup the whole 9 and the GS2 was but naked not even signed into a gmail account. I say that today this when you watch these comparison vids take into account what may or may not be on the devices in question in terms of data info etc... Once you get these devices in hand your speed milage Will vary depending on how much you throw at your device. It's a good time to be with sprint I'm not even going to get into the improvements happening to the network ill save that for another post. And oh yeah in case you were skeptical on the matter we are absolutely getting the iphone so tell all your apple juice drinking buddies that VZ and AT&T's are numbered it'll be here before you know it. The real question is will it be 4G and honestly even I don't have that answer................ Yet. PS if your in the LA area and you want to switch to sprint I can give you 125 dollar port in credit... Yes we pay YOU 125.00 bucks to KEEP your number give me a shout PM me. Duece
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Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

Killer! jumping on that bish like no other lol

Thats a ****in huge wall of text.....but I'm excited for a keyboard galaxy S[exy] variant again and dual core....saving up my money now

Hahaha!!! That GS2 keyboard version is MINE baby the day it hits the floor with its sexy dual-core speed, and I still have my upgrade left so ill get it for the nw contract price...that's a damn beautiful thing....I can't wait to hear about official names and specs for the regular SG2 and the keyboard SG2....this exited me for the phone releases AND. For the service improvements....let's go Sprint baby....to all u otha sucka ass carriers like Gucci Mane said, "you deserve betta baby, betta baby, betta baby!)
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My head hurts.

GS2 with a keyboard...I'm sold
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I trust nothing of what that guy wrote. Everytime someone claims to have advanced knowledge they are wrong completely. Why the eff would sprint bring rumored phones around a retail store before they are even announced? That just makes no sense. I have dealt with enough sprint employees who "have the scoop" and turn out to be collosal nitwits before to believe that some random sprint store employee got the scoop on sprint getting the iphone.
I do think he is a sprint employee though because every sprint employee I have ever dealt with is a huge fanboy of the evo.
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I haven't heard the details he has shared, but my corp rep brought the regional network rep out who knows all the tech updates and all the phone releases. He said the biggest thing sprint has in the pipe is the network updates. Everyone is getting phones, they are rolling out new tower hardware making speeds, signal quality and increase the number of clients able to hit the servers. He told me it would be a 2 year rollout, but we had 36 tower updates last month. He said there are about 40 new devices rolling out and they would rock!
Ill buy what that guy was selling
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I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.

Winner
bigray327 said:
I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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bigray327 said:
I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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Who doesn't make that mistake every once in a while.
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AJC9000 said:
Thats a ****in huge wall of text.....but I'm excited for a keyboard galaxy S[exy] variant again and dual core....saving up my money now
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Yes!
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bigray327 said:
I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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of "kicking but" and "kicking butt"

"Let's eat, grandma."
"Let's eat grandma."
Punctuation saves lives.

tpike said:
I haven't heard the details he has shared, but my corp rep brought the regional network rep out who knows all the tech updates and all the phone releases. He said the biggest thing sprint has in the pipe is the network updates. Everyone is getting phones, they are rolling out new tower hardware making speeds, signal quality and increase the number of clients able to hit the servers. He told me it would be a 2 year rollout, but we had 36 tower updates last month. He said there are about 40 new devices rolling out and they would rock!
Ill buy what that guy was selling
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tpike added his credentials to that , so that is good news

The Root said:
"Let's eat, grandma."
"Let's eat grandma."
Punctuation saves lives.
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So very true.
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The Root said:
"Let's eat, grandma."
"Let's eat grandma."
Punctuation saves lives.
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"I helped my uncle jack off a horse."
"I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse."
So does capitalization.
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I work for a regional electronics and appliance chain, that is becoming a full device sprint dealer this fall. At a training event for sales reps the sprint trainer brought up an iphone 5 variant for sprint a few times. Interesting to hear it from this guy as well. Although if I had to guess, they are both misreading it, and all we are likely to see is the new prepaid iphone version coming out for virgin.
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I hate when people say the EVO 3d is a better phone than SG2 even though across the board SG2 eats 3d. Granted htc sense 3.0 is sexy, but MIUI is better

Sprint's overall phone lineup is strong with or without the iPhone. It has been for a while. The issues are that they have to quickly maintain and improve their network and hold prices and plans to the attractive level they are now. I don't believe in corporate hype, I believe in underpromising and overdelivering. Sprint did that in the years I've been with them.
Now they have to continue so they can grow and poach away customers who get sick of being robbed by Verizon and AT&T. But without the network that's going to be even harder to do. Take my neighborhood for example--coverage here is poor, Sprint probably has no customers other than people like me who figured out how to force roam, or those who have Airaves. And it's doubtful any new towers are planned, so they better get busy on these network improvement miracles, because reasonably priced unlimited 4G makes no difference to those who can't get it.

Sprint to buy 20$ BILLION worth of iPhone in next 4 years!!!

Just read an article online & it said sprint takes big risks to buy 20 billion worth of iPhone in next 4 years but that they are going to get the iPhone 5 while At&t & Verizon get iPhone 4s then I think they get the 5 early 2012!! I think Sprint crazy to put up that much they should of did maybe 10&?$billion & use the other 10billion to build out there 4g lte to get it out to people faster!!! What you guys think
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Oh dude, people will be so pissed if this is true... most people in my area hate sprint because of how crappy the service is while I cling tightly to my unlimited data despite its constant slowness.
It makes sense as to why sprint would do this and I do see this bringing in a good rush of customers, but to bank so much money on exclusivity for a few months seems like a gamble to me.
Time will tell though, its not like we have to wait that long to find out...
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link to article please

its not going to be exclusive, that is just to get apple to join sprint, like said it will buy 20billion worth of iphones in the next 4 years so its just to get apple to get in bed with sprint, not exclusive
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/03/sprint-places-20-billion-order-for-next-iphone-hinges-company/

That a ton of mula sprint why that much? I looked online read & posted about it I think sprint should of not spent that much if apple didn't want to give them the iPhone 5 then sprint should of told them f u & spend there $ on building out there 4g LTE & Try & get the Nexus Prime as early as they could & then tell Samsung that when they make the new Galaxy S3 instead of having the. U.S.A get the phone last like we did the S2 Epic Touch . Sprint pays a little more to get it first!
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Killasmoke said:
That a ton of mula sprint why that much? I looked online read & posted about it I think sprint should of not spent that much if apple didn't want to give them the iPhone 5 then sprint should of told them f u & spend there $ on building out there 4g LTE & Try & get the Nexus Prime as early as they could & then tell Samsung that when they make the new Galaxy S3 instead of having the. U.S.A get the phone last like we did the S2 Epic Touch . Sprint pays a little more to get it first!
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not like theyre giving the money away, they going to sell the phone and make a profit/add customers with this... as we've seen iphones sell... sprint wants more things that sell to make more money...

I think this would be good, in coming customers who wish to have an iphone with a network you don't have to worry about usage, whih is what a lot of new apple users are looking for. Ease of use and no issues, well I don't necessarily agree with that. but being how well apple helped verizon I think it could actually help sprint add to their network and net worth.
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I hope they sell a lot but I want the Nexus Prime to sell like 2 it 3 million more!!! I hope Sprint sells a lot I don't want them to lose $$ cuz it can hurt there biz & hurt us in long run unless Google buys them
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.

This is great for Apple, but not so much for Sprint. Apparently they haven't seen how Android sales numbers are trending against Apple. $20BB is a lot to gamble on another company -- especially when you are hoping that every future phone the make will continue to be a hit, even with their decreasing market share.... Kinda late to be a fanboy, but oh well.

If this is true. Then many will jump to Sprint. Will the network handle it?!?
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Missing Market
Android phones are better in my option; however, there is a large number of people that need a Fisher-Price type phone. These people cannot be allowed to have unlimited options. They are people that cannot understand words like; root, rom or even kernel when applied to a cell phone. For this demographic Apple creates the best "Fisher-Price" phone. Sheepeople are told this is the way your phone works, these are your only apps and you will be happy.
Sprint should be able to greatly increase its customers with the addition of this "phone." The only downside is when you are trying to contact customer service about a real issue; you will have to wait on hold while someone is told "open the box. The box your phone came in. The black and yellow box with Sprint and iPhone on it. You have to take the phone out of the box to make a call......"

inunishi said:
Sprint should be able to greatly increase its customers with the addition of this "phone." The only downside is when you are trying to contact customer service about a real issue; you will have to wait on hold while someone is told "open the box. The box your phone came in. The black and yellow box with Sprint and iPhone on it. You have to take the phone out of the box to make a call......"
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LMFAO!!!

The way people use data on their iPhones, we're bound to be heading for tiered data plans. Seriously though Sprint with so many other places to stuff your money you choose apple? Why not invest in your ever so slow network. Especially since they aren't going to see a profit from doing this until 2013.(no exaggeration)
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How is the way people use data on I phones different from how android users use data?
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BrooklynsFinest said:
How is the way people use data on I phones different from how android users use data?
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To quote my friend " I fell asleep with pandora running on my iphone overnight now my bills gonna be huge" lol
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xopher.hunter said:
To quote my friend " I fell asleep with pandora running on my iphone overnight now my bills gonna be huge" lol
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As an irrelevant side note, pandora only uses about 30-45mb an hour to run. You could run pandora 24x7 for a week before you hit a 5gb cap.

perhaps I'm missing something, but this seems like an awful big gamble to stake on what, for all intents and purposes, has been revealed to be a 16-month old phone brought to a new carrier. I don't see enough differentiation between the 4 and the 4s to warrant the size of this investment. So, either Sprint's banking solely on the name recognition of iPhone or they anticipate a superior device being delivered sooner rather than later.

Great idea. Invest billions in the next greatest thing to hit the market. Oh wait....the iPhone has been around for years and is losing marketshare at a rapid pace and is in litigation wars with just about every other phone manufacturer. Hitching your cart to the wrong horse in my opinion.
Anyone who wants an iPhone already has one. I doubt there are that many people dying to jump on Sprint with the lack of iPhone being the only thing holding them back.

Wow... Sprint is just fail..
WTF did they do with all that money? It is not even exclusive.
What's going on????????
I was lil bit hyped possibility of owning new iPhone exclusively (note: for resell)..
Hmm... fail Sprint... fail...
p.s. also sprint was mentioned for like 2 seconds during apple presentation.

Verizon and AT&T GS3 won't have 50GB Dropbox!

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...-of-50gb-dropbox-promo-for-samsungs-galaxy-s3
As expected, VZW and ATT had to screw the users somehow

No surprise there.....US phones that are released worldwide are ALWAYS lacking features and bonuses that the rest of the world receives

Just came to post this. Such crap! I'm beginning to aggressively hate Verizon more and more each day.
Would we be able to "hack" ourselves around this road block?
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I'm sure the reason for this is the recently announced Dropbox video streaming. Now its very easy to upload all your media to the 50GB space, then stream it whenever you want without having to sync/download. It's like Google Music for videos, except it uses 10x the bandwidth.
Carriers are NOT happy about that because they can't charge you for it. Both VZW and ATT have lots of people with grandfathered unlimited data, and most who never come close to the bandwidth caps. So they are trying to prevent this.

This reminds me of when I opened my HOX and the beats headphones weren't there!
Stupid ATT! I
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SlimJ87D said:
This reminds me of when I opened my HOX and the beats headphones weren't there!
Stupid ATT! I
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Not supporting at&t but HTC didn't put beats headphones on the international one x as well. They said they won't be doing that going forward.
Interesting to see what sprint and tmobile do with sgs3 dropbox.
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Makes me like Sprint more and more. I guess Verizon and Att want to sell more SD cards?

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This reminds me of when I opened my HOX and the beats headphones weren't there!
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HTC stopped including Beats headphones with their phones a few months back. That's across their entire catalog not just in the US.

While this would not have stopped me from purchasing the phone, I'm pretty frustrated and feel cheated because Verizon decided to drop something that the phone was presumed to come with, and without notifying customers whatsoever that they opted out of the otherwise standard promotion.

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I'm sure the reason for this is the recently announced Dropbox video streaming. Now its very easy to upload all your media to the 50GB space, then stream it whenever you want without having to sync/download. It's like Google Music for videos, except it uses 10x the bandwidth.
Carriers are NOT happy about that because they can't charge you for it. Both VZW and ATT have lots of people with grandfathered unlimited data, and most who never come close to the bandwidth caps. So they are trying to prevent this.
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This doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying that accessing dropbox data doesn't count against your monthly bandwidth total? I find that hard to believe.

Hotobu said:
This doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying that accessing dropbox data doesn't count against your monthly bandwidth total? I find that hard to believe.
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I believe he's referring to the people with unlimited data plans.
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I believe he's referring to the people with unlimited data plans.
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If that's Verizon's thinking it makes me question what percentage of their customer base still has the unlimited plans. While people with unlimited plans can abuse something like this I have to believe that the people who don't have unlimited far outweigh those that do. Furthermore 50GB of easily accessible storage seems like a good way to induce people into data overages.

Not sure if anyone saw this. If you purchase a S3, Dropbox is offering 50gb of storage for free for 2 years. If you purchase a HTC One X you get 25gb of storage for free for 2 years. So you can tell Verizon and AT&T to stuff it because Dropbox is being the nice guys here.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/06/08/dropbox-for-android-updated-with-streaming-video-support/
EDIT - Please OMIT what I just posted. Apparently I failed to read the first link or I need some sleep.

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Not sure if anyone saw this. If you purchase a S3, Dropbox is offering 50gb of storage for free for 2 years. If you purchase a HTC One X you get 25gb of storage for free for 2 years. So you can tell Verizon and AT&T to stuff it because Dropbox is being the nice guys here.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/06/08/dropbox-for-android-updated-with-streaming-video-support/
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I believe that's what we're discussing- the Verizon and AT&T versions of the Samsung Galaxy S III are not eligible for this promotion.

ExodusC said:
I believe that's what we're discussing- the Verizon and AT&T versions of the Samsung Galaxy S III are not eligible for this promotion.
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Oh so sorry. Didn't even read the first link. I know AT&T is evil, but I didn't think Verizon was like that. I hope Rogers doesn't pull an AT&T and Verizon on us.

I think we should protest against this. I'm definitely going to ask about this, and if Sprint/TMobile had any sense they would advertise this.
There's little chance this decision will be reversed but we must fight.

Ok ATT One X gets the 25GB promotion but not the SGS3? Wow can't even say how much i hate all carriers...they control too many things. Im happy to have the international version and ill drop by their store flaunting my sgs3 and show my middle finger to them
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Sucks that this happened for all the people that planned on using this, but it doesnt really bother me as I had no interest in using it.

OMG! I didn't care so much before. Now I need it and can't live without it. I never knew how much it would mean to me not to have it.
All kidding aside, it would have been nice.

hawkeye2188 said:
Sucks that this happened for all the people that planned on using this, but it doesnt really bother me as I had no interest in using it.
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Same here. Due to Dropbox's shady business practices and ever changing ToS, I never planned on using them.