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I was at Flashcamp yesterday at Adobe. Here's what I learned:
Flash Player will run on any handset with FroYo. Both should be available in May. FP is hardware-optimized when possible, hence the dependancy on FroYo.
Bowler Hat's GridShock was being demoed on a Droid as a native APK (just like the iPhone Packager). I forgot to check the Android version, but it felt slightly laggy.
I think I heard AIR (the Android Packager) should ship around September.
Awesome Android devices will ship this year, including tablets.
What version number will FroYo get? Are you serious, May? I seriously doubt that FroYo will be released in May...
I heard Fro-Yo is Android 2.3. They publicly stated that Flash Player 10.1 will run on any phone with Fro-Yo, and that there will be a public build available in May. They did give the caveat concerning the availability of Fro-Yo on devices, so I don't know what the Android timetable is.
I'm mainly posting this info here so the ROM chefs can start thinking about an AOSP build of Fro-Yo, so we'll be able to run Flash content on a mobile device in May.
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What version number will FroYo get? Are you serious, May? I seriously doubt that FroYo will be released in May...
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i can't remember when AOSP 2.1 was released but its at least 6 months now. i also doubt it will be May, but would be pleasantly surprised if it was.
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i can't remember when AOSP 2.1 was released but its at least 6 months now. i also doubt it will be May, but would be pleasantly surprised if it was.
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As I wrote somewhere, there are already some simple checks for Froyo in Google Maps This doesn't mean we will have it soon, but we can at least hope for that
From : http://www.google.com/support/forum...488da0ef21660d1300048994d2e4bf4c&hl=en&hltp=1
Ry Guy
Google Employee
07:03 PM
Hey guys,
Just dropping in to let you know that the FRF72 build that is floating around is not the official update. The Android team is feverishly working to get a final version out the door, but like passion-ate has mentioned this will only happen once a release candidate meets our quality criteria.
Since today is the Summer Solstice, we know things will be heating up a bit so hopefully Froyo will be on its way shortly. Thanks for your continued patience!
-Ry Guy
So… that tells us… not very much but we now know 2 things:
* FRF72, which was the latest official leaked Froyo build, was not the final version (we kind of already suspected that)
* and Froyo is still not ready
cool, thnx for the info
And so the wait continues...
Then again if the google guys think that FRF72 still doesn't meet their standards... could be a good thing.
I'm expecting the OTA'd Froyo to have the option to take over Apple's servers and Ddos them to pieces.
watch, we will have waited all this time for froyo and instead we get gingerbread. (crosses fingers and hopes)
Good to know...seems like Google is taking QA to a new level!
http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/When+It's+Done
(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".
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http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/When+It's+Done
(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".
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just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years
lalalalala
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just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years
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Pretty sure its actually five years in the making because I've been watching for 3 years and I'm sure they started in 04-05 right after half life source came out. nothing compared to duke nukem forever
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This newb is curious, how are you tracking these things?
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.....nothing compared to duke nukem froyo
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Needed a small edit, all fixed now.
funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!
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funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!
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I agree, its tough to be mad since we already have it anyway. But I'm with you I'm intrigued by the delay, not put off by it. Hopefully google will not be too embarrassed to announce what caused the delay.
Re: Google Officially Updates Us On Froyo Status FRF72 Was Not Final,
I'm still excited, they work hard at Goggle, I'm sure the official update its going to be great when its ready.
I think we should have stick to 2.1 till the official froyo comes up,it's good to see that Desire to N1 Roms are active again
Rodriguezstyle ROM with FRF72 us amazing already
Fastest, smoothest Android I've ever used.
Cant wait for 75
So FRF72 is not the final build. What will be in the new build. Is there a list available what items is not met yet in the FRF72 build?
All this time I always have a feeling that froyo is being delayed due to flash! My thought is that they are waiting for the final flash build to optimize froyo for it.
Adobe has released Full flash 10.1 to android androidcentral.com/adobe-releases-flash-101-partners
so dont think they are waiting on flash anymore
and whilst waiting for flash to be ready they thought. "Hey, let's watch some korean drama and worry about gingerbread later"
http://hothardware.com/News/Android-Honeycomb-31-Comes-To-The-Asus-Eee-Pad-Transformer/
Wow according to this website Asus transformer has 3.1!!!!
Hopefully Acer A500 gets it soon
Looks like they got hold of a little pre-release action. At the end it says "We're told this update will be available to the public in the near future." Come on Acer!
I wouldn't hold my breath for the update, especially since it's coming from Acer.
Google provided to the OEM... and it's up to the individual (Acer) to tweak it to their device...who know how Acer is handling this ( timewise )
interestingly...on one of the picture...it show that Asus uses the same kernel as our Acer...
Kernel 2.6.36.3-00001-gf377a2b
http://hothardware.com/newsimages/item17461/big_android3.jpg
That could pose a potential with our Acer updates as the recent confusion shown with recent updates, they are getting rid of the part after the number to shorten form --->> 2.6.36.3
here we go again !!
why is everyone so quick to assume Acer won't give timely updates? The iconias only been out for a month here, and its already received one bug update, and they already stated that 3.1 is coming in june. Patience is a very important virtue. ;-)
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I believe everything i have seen about a 3.1 update timeline is first week or 2 of June, Seems timely to me...
At least you can find the acer in stores....
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why is everyone so quick to assume Acer won't give timely updates? The iconias only been out for a month here, and its already received one bug update, and they already stated that 3.1 is coming in june. Patience is a very important virtue. ;-)
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THANK YOU! I don't get how people are so nuts about updates
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I wouldn't hold my breath for the update, especially since it's coming from Acer.
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https://www.facebook.com/Acer
hlaalu said:
THANK YOU! I don't get how people are so nuts about updates
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Entitlement issues, product envy, buyers remorse. God forbid another device get an update before the A500...it seems.
Happy with mine. Hope 3.1 does big things, but really happy with mine so far.
Yea i love my acer and they anounced it would be out first half of june, chill out.
Acer FB page says 3.1 will be available at the end of June.
I've only bought one Acer product and they've done alright by me so far. I've had it 3 weeks and already one update. That's light-years better than Samsung/T-mobile with the Galaxy phones.
soild update not a rushed one
OK this update will come when its complete and not full of bugs and fixes.from what I have heard we have less bugs then most of those tabs and better connectivity then the others.
Acer. We need a User end user recovery.one that does not make us leave out tablets stock.where. we can install and del the apps we want ina piece of hardware we paid for.
So unlock bootloader or atlest give a recovery method. That does not require me tobsend my tab in for recovery.
In afraid to install apps because of compatibility. Seinfeld im past my exchange date
Play nice Acer I know you watch this forum.
Im good at selling on ebay
the 18 month rule
Acer will give us the updates timely, the 18 month rule is there also for google to see who is good at releasing updates and keeping products up to date. If acer does not update in a timely manner. I can only assume that acer will not get early builds of new OS's. There fore shutting them out of the tablet game.
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Acer will give us the updates timely, the 18 month rule is there also for google to see who is good at releasing updates and keeping products up to date. If acer does not update in a timely manner. I can only assume that acer will not get early builds of new OS's. There fore shutting them out of the tablet game.
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Does the 18 month rule apply to ACER? They were not a listed partner of Google on the 18 month support slide.... although everyone else was.
"Great news for the lucky owners of Acer Iconia Tab A500! The update to Android 3.1 will be available at the end of June!"
Also, I'm waiting for proper mouse support still. :|
And, can we title our threads a bit better guys? You got my hopes up.
Looks like those lucky bastards with the Asus have already got a leaked build of 3.1
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...er-modaco-com/340629/3-1-update-is-available/
3.1 has been available for the Xoom before the Xformer - 3.1 is just around the corner for the A500. Acer was recently highlighted as a close partner with Google at their recent I/O Conference so future upgrades are without doubt.
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Please, stop with disinformation. Acer just came out with this tablet and a month or so later we all just got this great update. Now 3.1 is coming. You act as if they should personally call you every day for your approval. This tablet is great and updates have come. Why complain about what they just released which really enhanced everything for this tablet? You disinformation agents get to me because you are so easy to spot. Always complaining even when the company does things right.
lord_voldemort666 said:
why is everyone so quick to assume Acer won't give timely updates? The iconias only been out for a month here, and its already received one bug update, and they already stated that 3.1 is coming in june. Patience is a very important virtue. ;-)
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It is because they mostly work for the competition. They get people to be dissatisfied with their purchase. Then you buy their products instead. Manufacturers are all over forums like these pushing one product down while promoting other products which are usually their competing products lol. Happens a lot. Ymmv here.
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Looks like those lucky bastards with the Asus have already got a leaked build of 3.1
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...er-modaco-com/340629/3-1-update-is-available/
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Stop trolling Dr. You seem to be pushing Asus in an Acer forum. Suggest you take your trolling activities there.
So I have had my A500 for a week now and love it but still getting used to it. When I first purchased it and opened it up on first boot I setup the wi-fi etc it came up with update available, Said ok and it did the update.
When looking at the about side of things its saying its version 3.0.0.1 or was it 3.0.1 (am at work and cannot remember exactly. So has the 3.1 update been put out and that's what I updated to or is there still the update to come ??.
20 seconds of searching would net you your answer.
3.1 is due out at the end of June, but no exact date as yet.
on 30 June @23:59:59 exactly PST!
6/23
10char
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6/23
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Oh man, is this it? 6/23?
I've had my Iconia for a day (upgrade from Advent Vega). It's awesome, but I miss being able to use my Xbox controller for ye olde sega/nes/psx games.
Very much looking forward to 'official' xbox pad support, and hoping it brings analogue stick functionality with it (I'm guessing it does - right now, I only get dpad/button/triggers working on the Vega).
The 23rd... an agonising 11 days.
yeah I can't wait and I really think why it took so long is cause Acer had to add things to improve a500s quality with honeycomb, more than motorola and Asus had to.
I think many, many people are thinking the 3.1 update is going to be the holy grail of Android.
I, for one, will be waiting to update - you lot can be the 'first adopters' and get all the bugs, I'll wait for 3.101.
3.1 will not be the all-fix thing you think it'll be.
3.1 the holy grail !!!
I didn't heard about something after 3.1... such as a 3.x or 4.0 ... what the future of Android ?
Afer 3.1? Ice Cream Sandwich. It is the unifying firmware to run both phone and tablets and anything in between. The holy grail of a smartphone OS. After that? Ice Cream Sandwich 2.0. Etc..
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Afer 3.1? Ice Cream Sandwich. It is the unifying firmware to run both phone and tablets and anything in between. The holy grail of a smartphone OS. After that? Ice Cream Sandwich 2.0. Etc..
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no
after that
Honeycomb will become Spicy Buritos 4.0 Ultimate Android version with the tequila notification and the samba starting screen
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no
after that
Honeycomb will become Spicy Buritos 4.0 Ultimate Android version with the tequila notification and the samba starting screen
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Yeah, mexican food and brazilian music. That would be nice
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I think many, many people are thinking the 3.1 update is going to be the holy grail of Android.
I, for one, will be waiting to update - you lot can be the 'first adopters' and get all the bugs, I'll wait for 3.101.
3.1 will not be the all-fix thing you think it'll be.
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3.101? That could be a long wait
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3.101? That could be a long wait
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To be honest, I don't think so..
I think there will plenty of bugs in 3.1 - this forum will be FULL of posts about gps not working after update, or wifi, or mSD card, or whatever.
3.1.001 will be out before the end of August to address those faults.
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To be honest, I don't think so..
I think there will plenty of bugs in 3.1 - this forum will be FULL of posts about gps not working after update, or wifi, or mSD card, or whatever.
3.1.001 will be out before the end of August to address those faults.
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Why do you write such nonsense?
the port which is already made, which is not even perfect.. and its still pretty good..
fast browsing is the major i think for this release..
launcher less laggy
wifi,gps etc.. works pretty ok i think for a asus port..
so please.. false arguments.. 3.1 is already on our device in a unofficial port, and initial reports are good (if you please ignore media playback)
the official 3.1 can only be better, if acer do just as good!!
but we seem to have to wait alot longer for the official to get out..
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Why do you write such nonsense?
the port which is already made, which is not even perfect.. and its still pretty good..
fast browsing is the major i think for this release..
launcher less laggy
wifi,gps etc.. works pretty ok i think for a asus port..
so please.. false arguments.. 3.1 is already on our device in a unofficial port, and initial reports are good (if you please ignore media playback)
the official 3.1 can only be better, if acer do just as good!!
but we seem to have to wait alot longer for the official to get out..
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And what makes you think, out of all the things Acer have done (for eg. ignore all requests for unlocked loaders, ignore emails (well, ignore the first 3-7 emails), they'll make 3.1 'better' than it is.
EVERY time there's been an update from Acer, there are a flood of posts here about something not working after the update - why do you think 3.1 will be any different?
And, to paraphrase you - initial reports are good, but only if you ignore something that's bad.. and you really think that's a logical statement?
1940 - 1945 were lovely years to be alive, if you ignore that silly war thing.
3.1 is very likely to be better than 3.0 - if only because they've managed to fix 3.0's bugs (like ANY update).
I just think it'll come with it's own slew of both new and old-unfixed bugs, and this forum will once again be filled with posts about xx not working, or yy force closes when it didn't before, etc.
Lets face it, there's been, what?, 3 or 5 Acer download updates this year, all supposedly fixing something found wrong in the previous releases..
3.1 will have a host of bugs, and there'll be updates for it within 4 to 6 weeks of its release.. I've just said I'll be waiting for those updates, rather than bow down and praise the holy 3.1.
That's my opinion of the 3.1 release, you have no right to call it nonsense when it's based on the number of updates released to 3.0 this year.
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And what makes you think, out of all the things Acer have done (for eg. ignore all requests for unlocked loaders, ignore emails (well, ignore the first 3-7 emails), they'll make 3.1 'better' than it is.
EVERY time there's been an update from Acer, there are a flood of posts here about something not working after the update - why do you think 3.1 will be any different?
And, to paraphrase you - initial reports are good, but only if you ignore something that's bad.. and you really think that's a logical statement?
1940 - 1945 were lovely years to be alive, if you ignore that silly war thing.
3.1 is very likely to be better than 3.0 - if only because they've managed to fix 3.0's bugs (like ANY update).
I just think it'll come with it's own slew of both new and old-unfixed bugs, and this forum will once again be filled with posts about xx not working, or yy force closes when it didn't before, etc.
Lets face it, there's been, what?, 3 or 5 Acer download updates this year, all supposedly fixing something found wrong in the previous releases..
3.1 will have a host of bugs, and there'll be updates for it within 4 to 6 weeks of its release.. I've just said I'll be waiting for those updates, rather than bow down and praise the holy 3.1.
That's my opinion of the 3.1 release, you have no right to call it nonsense when it's based on the number of updates released to 3.0 this year.
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I think you're thinking of the Asus TF...
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I think you're thinking of the Asus TF...
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thats what i think too.. they person is wrong this time. as its no business of Acer, but actually done by another comany..
people just want someone to blame for something...
I think Fluffbutt is just arguing to argue. His arguments suck, and are all pretty much unfounded.
There's only been one update for 3.0 per region that I'm aware of.
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thats what i think too.. they person is wrong this time. as its no business of Acer, but actually done by another comany..
people just want someone to blame for something...
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You fanbois ARE kidding, right?
I've had my A500 for about a month now, maybe six weeks, and it's updated twice from original in just that time!
You lot REALLY do love your Acers don't you.. you can't stand ANY dissension or disagreement about how wonderful things are (you should be on their payroll for marketing!)
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You lot REALLY do love your Acers don't you.. you can't stand ANY dissension or disagreement about how wonderful things are (you should be on their payroll for marketing!)
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you are in a developer forum, with all the custom roms for any model you can think of (almost).. so wtf would you care about what Acer can deliver of updates, if xda have the suppport required to get your tablet working..
we can only be so lucky that nvidia tegra2 is getting so popular and that platforms are almost 100% compatible.
i only ask acer to open the kernel source, so kernel developers can add the functionality missing.
but updates from acer? i dont need updates so often.. we need xda forums and more supporting the developer community..
if you can say "fanboy", you should associate that with nvida tegra2, and not the vendor here.. i chose Acer because of the hardware, not because of the company and its reputation.
Who wants a usb less tablet, if you get one with both sockets? (here i mean asus/motorola)
http://gizmodo.com/5820527/your-android-tablet-just-got-better-whats-new-in-android-32
Here's a link to a post at Gizmodo. Looks like a minor though probably necessary update. Anyone know when it will get rolled out to our Iconia's?
Thanks for reporting this....
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http://gizmodo.com/5820527/your-android-tablet-just-got-better-whats-new-in-android-32
Here's a link to a post at Gizmodo. Looks like a minor though probably necessary update. Anyone know when it will get rolled out to our Iconia's?
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Knowing Acer, August 2013.
Yup, Xoom WIFI was getting the 3.2 update a few hours ago. The most interesting feature is probably the zoom feature: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...new-zoom-mode-for-viewing-non-honeycomb-apps/
Non-Honeycomb apps support? Even with pixelation, Hell yes!
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Yup, Xoom WIFI was getting the 3.2 update a few hours ago. The most interesting feature is probably the zoom feature: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...new-zoom-mode-for-viewing-non-honeycomb-apps/
Non-Honeycomb apps support? Even with pixelation, Hell yes!
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Sounds nice. Unfortunately the biggest problem isn't the resolution. The biggest problem is attempting to get them to run without FC 80000 times.
Anyone know if 3.2 supports the HSP for bluetooth? I want to be able to use my headset with this bloody thing.
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3.2 will offer some bug fixes and improved hardware acceleration, as well as updates to Movie Studio, Movies, Music and widgets.
I wait two more weeks and if they would not release their f***** 3.1, the tab will be sold for a better product with better support.
These Acer support people are just jokes
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I wait two more weeks and if they would not release their f***** 3.1, the tab will be sold for a better product with better support.
These Acer support people are just jokes
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They HAVE released the 3.1 update. Its just taking time to roll it out to everyone, just like FOTA updates do to phones.
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They HAVE released the 3.1 update. Its just taking time to roll it out to everyone, just like FOTA updates do to phones.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I read the A500 3.1 update had been halted, as in no one new is getting it at all until further notice.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I read the A500 3.1 update had been halted, as in no one new is getting it at all until further notice.
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What you've been reading has not been confirmed by any official Acer source, it's just what people have posted saying they were told by some guy on the phone at Acer. That's rumour, not fact.
In fact, over the last couple of days, several people HAVE been reporting getting the 3.1 update. Try taking a look in the dev section.
I think people often forget.ideally when devices computers get a update its all about fixing or providing enhancements. But often we forget that updates that come to soon.updates that are not carefully debuged and checked will almost always break something else. I would rather have fewer but larger rolled up updates then the tiny uncontrolled untested to be true. Remember your windows machine. Updates are a mess and daily. And always risky even more so on firmware.
patience wins over in the long run.
With that said.
ACER GET IT RIGHT don't make us have to wait to long or we will all stop breathing and go into a anti update shock
giggles it will come. My friends
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I think people often forget.ideally when devices computers get a update its all about fixing or providing enhancements. But often we forget that updates that come to soon.updates that are not carefully debuged and checked will almost always break something else. I would rather have fewer but larger rolled up updates then the tiny uncontrolled untested to be true. Remember your windows machine. Updates are a mess and daily. And always risky even more so on firmware.
patience wins over in the long run.
With that said.
ACER GET IT RIGHT don't make us have to wait to long or we will all stop breathing and go into a anti update shock
giggles it will come. My friends
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Exactly my points below
Too many build #.... Acer -->> no clues !!
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Knowing Acer, August 2013.
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It's not the update that I am concerned about ( XDA always comes through )
It's Acer's damn un-organized way of having so many build #s !!!
One thing that having so many build numbers tells me:
They have no clue as to really ironed out the bugs, that's why their are so many different builds !
with Acer.... even among their same region ( Com_Gen1.... or EMEA for example )... even with those.... there are so many build numbers for the same region !
Look at Asus... they basically have only 2 builds..... 1 for US & 1 for WW ( worldwide )
try weeding through all those build numbers with tech supports and you can see why nobody can get a concrete answer.... due to the lack of being on the same page...etc
If any one who actually have contacts with Acer on the inside.... for Godsake.... relay this problem to their head of department, please !!
how difficult is that ??
Which I imagine is why a second update is being rolled out at the moment?
I suspect that the previous update did have issues and Acer has realised this and is attempting to resolve things. Pure conjecture on my part, but it seems odd to push two updates within a one week period.