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So I talked to T-Mo Rep

Today, I kept getting random messages from random numbers, so I called in to block, the rep also had a vibrant. So she was like "So... how do you like the vibrant?"
I'm all like "It's sexy"
But it took her so long to solve my problems, so I asked about random stuff like "Do you know when Froyo is coming out?"
She was a pretty "SMART TECH" you don't see those much on help lines now do you?
She replies: Let me check on that for you
and then she came back on and said "it won't be anytime soon, because if it is anytime soon, the tech supports usually knows weeks or months beforehand, but right now, it says 'to be determined'"
SO, do you guys it'll take as long as the rep said?

Unfortunately, this still fell into the same "He Said She Said" category, until we get an official statement, it's all moot. She may be smart but she is still a rep and I doubt she will have access to OTA information. She most likely turned around and asked her best friend/co-worker who is a tech, and he replied that he didn't know anything, and she passes that onto you.

I think she's right. We already know that froyo would come by the end of the year according to the galaxy s twitter. I expect it to come around December 29. Am I so pessimistic?

ori2 said:
I think she's right. We already know that froyo would come by the end of the year according to the galaxy s twitter. I expect it to come around December 29. Am I so pessimistic?
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No, I believe you are pretty optimistic. End of December...well..

same here. I read the same thing in a tech online magazine.. they actually said 2011 but no precise date..
Im running the unofficial TMO froyo posted in this forum though and I like it
Cheers

Personally, I think Samsung should just give up and hand over the kernel source, maybe keep some respect.

The Unoffical Official T-MO Froyo ROM is in the Development section. If that is actually the real thing (and I completely believe it is) I don't see what the delay is for them to just release it.

Even when it does come out, I know for myself that I will keep a custom ROM. Why have stock when you can rock!

I think the point for all of us that are running one of the leaked 2.2 roms is that an official release will have more of the bugs ironed out and it will help with some of the compatibility issues. I for one have tried all flavors and each has a quirk or two. The good thing is that when 2.2 finally drops officially the devs will have almost perfected their roms and it will be easier to implement any changes made by Tmobile.
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I agree with the previous post. I think Samsung leaked the ROM so that the devs here could get their hands on it and make fixes that they then can implement into the official ROM.

So it wouldn't be so embarrasing on Samsung's part? x) Something big like a software update isn't too "easily" leaked. So I do sort of have to agree too.

A few random thoughts. Would appreciate your feedback.

(1)
I think it is insulting how Samsung released the Froyo update. This was not a mass update... this was a "lets shut the people complaining up update!"
Updating through Kies ALWAYS = people posting about problems/issues.
Why is it they could not do an OTA? I personally assume it's because it was not ready (hence the KA7 leak) and THAT will be an OTA for the masses to froyo (or an update to those who used Kies). This is my assumption.
But shame on Samsung/T-Mobile for this...
I would STRONGLY urge new people to NOT update to froyo via kies. I WOULD encourage rooting your phone and flashing the new custom roms that are based off the newest builds (even newer than KA6 which was the "official update").
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I think a thread dedicated for the new ROMs in the Q&A section would be awesome. Consider it an "ask a dumb question and expect a quick answer" thread. The less crap/clutter from the development section the better.
I imagine hardly any posts in the development section are of benefit to the developer.
I feel the Nero V4 sticky is a good example. Though I feel a sticky is a bit much.
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Anyone want to create a thread (or show me one) with all of the stock system apps attached? It would ne nice for those times when someone is asking for them....
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Does anyone have the skills to make the dropdown "mute" button also mute Media. I hate that currently it will mute everything but media... as it inevitably always leads to me making noise when I think I am muted.
I now use Widgetsoid to mute my phone completely.
Thanks!

I don't care how they released froyo, as long as they also release source code soon since it was an "official" release.
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dcpetterson said:
I don't care how they released froyo, as long as they also release source code soon since it was an "official" release.
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They have 60 days. Should not take that long. I just question why it was not an ota. Consider me skeptical of Samsung.
Want source? Request it: @SamsungMobileUS should work.

I agree that this was to shut people up, however, as a person who hasn't flashed a rom yet, I commend them for it. I really didn't know what I was missing, and if KA6 is laggy, I can't wait to see what isn't laggy. I'd like to root my phone next, but I have no idea if I'm hardware locked, so I'm inspired to do more reading.
Mini Kies is not difficult to use. People just don't read.
ETA: I agree that there will eventually be an OTA for fixes to KA6 and for people who did not even know about this.

mrsbelpit said:
I agree that this was to shut people up, however, as a person who hasn't flashed a rom yet, I commend them for it. I really didn't know what I was missing, and if KA6 is laggy, I can't wait to see what isn't laggy. I'd like to root my phone next, but I have no idea if I'm hardware locked, so I'm inspired to do more reading.
Mini Kies is not difficult to use. People just don't read.
ETA: I agree that there will eventually be an OTA for fixes to KA6 and for people who did not even know about this.
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Check and make sure that your phone is hardware locked now as I know that one of the ROMs took care of this issue.
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Isn't it that updating through kies is faster than ota? People wouldn't have to wait, unless you're a mac user. The JI6 took forever for them to send it. I waited like 2 weeks then i just flashed it through odin because i was really tired of waiting.
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Personally, I do believe that KA6 was suddenly delivered via Kies to shut us all up.
However, I don't really mind how updates are released. They don't have to be OTA. As long as Samsung releases timely updates, even if it is via Kies, then I will be a happy customer. (Oh and they still need to fix the hardware gps flaw)
If they release Gingerbread via kies in a timely manner, I will even somewhat forgive them, but I still will not buy another Samsung made product again for a very long time if ever.

im glad atleast samsung decided to give us froyo... i mean now we can get a little bit of work on our roms since we have a official now.
but i think that "official" rom was made in 2 days, because if you notice, its laggy as hell, and the only difference is theres wifi calling and a few other apps, thats IT.

s15274n said:
They have 60 days. Should not take that long. I just question why it was not an ota. Consider me skeptical of Samsung.
Want source? Request it: @SamsungMobileUS should work.
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I have the same opinion. I believe this was just a "shut them up" maneuver and the easier softer way for them to do it. Also from what I have read in the threads there seems to be a number of people with problems from the Keis fiasco.

xriderx66 said:
im glad atleast samsung decided to give us froyo... i mean now we can get a little bit of work on our roms since we have a official now.
but i think that "official" rom was made in 2 days, because if you notice, its laggy as hell, and the only difference is theres wifi calling and a few other apps, thats IT.
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Well, it actually has the Dalvik Jit Compiler which somewhat improves the Hummingbird cpu performance, there is also Flash player.

SamsungVibrant said:
Well, it actually has the Dalvik Jit Compiler which somewhat improves the Hummingbird cpu performance, there is also Flash player.
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well i guess all that lag takes away from the dalvik jit
also the flash, we've had for like months so you know,

S15274N Great Posting
I agree on your general Ideas. I really like the Idea of posting a fast Q & A
I like the Idea of Making a thread that lists all the stock apps (with apk attached etc.) for those who want that sort of thing.
And, I agree Samsung is just trying to avoid a Gun Fight with the customers. We customers Really are making it hard for Tmo and Samsung to continue their personal "*****-match"
We need to continue to Keep the Pressure on Samsung to keep them adhering to the open source licensing agreement thet agree to when installing Android.

Yeah, I was not trying to say I am upset they released froyo... but more picking on them for HOW they released it. They know 99% of Vibrant users are not even going to know it was released, and if they did, they wont bother with Kies.
Them releasing source will be huge. I hope they release it as fast as they did for the canadian fascinate once froyo was released for it. I'm still a skeptic of Samsung and expect a future release to be the next "official froyo"

s15274n said:
Yeah, I was not trying to say I am upset they released froyo... but more picking on them for HOW they released it. They know 99% of Vibrant users are not even going to know it was released, and if they did, they wont bother with Kies.
Them releasing source will be huge. I hope they release it as fast as they did for the canadian fascinate once froyo was released for it. I'm still a skeptic of Samsung and expect a future release to be the next "official froyo"
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they'll probably release it on like the 60th day waiting till its like 11:59PM then they upload. lol.

Based off your #1 statment I can only say that this is exactly why they released the "official update". The thing is after the first rumor was released and the **** hit the fan causing multiple threads and 1,000's of post, among other things, there was a small thread and article that was covered and only happen to receive less then 50 post that stated:
The same credible source that gave the first rumor added the reason why samsung and/or tmobile haven't given the update Is because samsung is charging the carriers for OS updates. This means samsung was expecting each carrier to pay per handset sold(later to be denied by samsung).
You can have your own take on samsung or tmo, but the remainder stays the same. That is if the sites which released the rumors spoke to the same source and one rumor is true, then possibly the second Could be also. This also shows 2 other things that will forever fault the android community and the Internet alike. The mob mentality and the feeling of some type of entitlement will cloud the truth or fuel rumors and/or other things that none of use are entitled to know or understand.
One good thing that has come out of this is the fact that now samsung is responsible to release the 2.2 source.via the GPL. Going forward id say Let's try and not let this happen with the real ota, if that ever really happens... lol.
Moral of the story:
Becareful what you wish for. You might just get it... kinda.

Android 2.4 coming April; Google Kills 2.3 Gingerbread Update

Check out this article from Android Headlines,
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/02...pril-google-kills-2-3-gingerbread-update.html

Pretty big news no?

Only if your aren't rooted and are waiting on an official gb update. Your wait just got a little longer
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Looks like the only change is to make dual core apps compatible with single core phones

nomadicthoughts said:
Pretty big news no?
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Pretty big unconfirmed rumor at this point but it wouldn't be surprising after what happened with 2.0 and 2.1.

I find that a little concerning, unless the only actual difference relates to single/dual core compatibility. The reason I rolled back from Gingerbread to Froyo was because some of my apps weren't Gingerbread ready. I hope the difference isn't significant enough to cause a gap like this.

That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.

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That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.
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My feeling exactly... i mean why would u do that???

Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.

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Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.
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If google tells htc to not update to 2.3, and 2.4 isn't due out till april, then that pretty much guarantees that the Evo will reach it's eol on froyo. It still take a couple months after the updates released for it to be used

With a source like Pocket-lint it has to be "who the hell are they?"
No, really. I've never heard of these guys.

You wanna buy a bridge?
Well I heard they are killing the 2.4 release to solve the multi-screen issues, by releasing Android 2.5 "troufles" in July. So named because of the layers of screen, not shrooms ( did you get that big "G" ? )

And our long wait gets longer.

I'm LoL'ing at people who blindly believe the OP.

Time for some bad news

the samsung galaxy s our phones will not get updated till mid-April claims.
@samsungsuomi :Galaxy S:n Android 2.3 -päivityksen testausvaihe on loppumetreillään. Uusi ohjelmistoversio saapuu ladattavaksi huhtikuun puolivälissä
which translates to: Galaxy S Android 2.3 update to the testing phase is a late stage. The new version of the software download arrives in mid-April,
if these sources are correct Samsung owes us all a apology as they promised march we will be getting gingerbread
or by getting gingerbread they meant leaked ?

TechKidTarek said:
if these sources are correct Samsung owes us all a apology as they promised march we will be getting gingerbread
or by getting gingerbread they meant leaked ?
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An apology for what - all news we were receiving the past months were "unofficial sources" or rumours or "i know i guy who knows a guy who works at S", I never actually read anything official, e.g. on a samsung website.
Even though the news, which was "almost" official (samsung romania facebook), rejected an actual release date at the end of march.
Just stay relaxed, an update will come in a few hours / days / weeks / years
Kind regards,
ww

I don't know why people always think that they deserve an apology from Samsung or that they get bad software support. Does anybody here have a written (or otherwise) guarantee that Sammy is giving us GB at a specific time? I guess not...
I admit that the first Eclair ROMs were crap and the GPS could be better, but seriously stop the whining, it's like talking with little kids that want their candy! Just wait until it's done and if it takes two weeks longer to sort out some bugs, then so be it...

I agree....they should apologize for possibly not living up to "a friend of a friend said" rumors, or for changing their roadmap to suit the pronouncements off the cuff on the facebook page of a regional Samsung distributer in a small market?
Really?
Or because Tricky used what he felt could possibly be the final 2.3.3 (though from user reports if it IS final, to quote Ricky Ricardo, Samsung's got some 'splainin to do) to make a big entry into the ROM Kitchen team?
Somehow I don't think so. No apologies required, from anyone. Just patience.
To be honest, considering no source is released and there seem to be various problems/quirks with JVK, I would prefer they take a couple weeks and give us a much more ready for prime time version.
Relax, Gingerbread is coming...just be patient and enjoy your 2.2.1 Custom ROMs and be grateful again you aren't stuck with just a single flavor of iOS.

Since I'm a new user and I cant post links, I'm just going to quote. Finnish branch of Samsung has announced a press release a few hours ago through a publishing company:
Translated in Google Translate said:
Samsung Android-range success of the phone Galaxy S is updated Android 2.3. Update arrives in mid-April.
Soon Android successful Android phone is updated Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)-version of the software. The update is a welcome gift for the Galaxy S owners. Update the test phase is late stage, and the new OS version arrives users to download in mid-April.
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Google "epressi Samsung Galaxy S 2.3" for the article and translate it through Google Translate.
I'm wondering why the press release is not on Samsung's website.

VillePie said:
I'm wondering why the press release is not on Samsung's website.
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Until it IS on Samsung's website, or we see it in Korean, I would tend to take that with a grain of salt.

FFS...
You have Gingerbread now. It's stable and useable. This can't hold you over a few more weeks?
I swear people just like hearing themselves *****.

am now on 2.3.3
gingerbread!
why wine about waiting for kies just flash it ya self.

curls1 said:
am now on 2.3.3
gingerbread!
why wine about waiting for kies just flash it ya self.
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Maybe because it looks like JVK is not the final release version and still has some bugs?.
The thing with these web blogs and tech news pages is they all tend to get their "exclusive" news from the same sources which 9 out of 10 times are wrong. Case in point recent news quoting Samsung Mobile Facebook page which wasn't as it was the SamsungGalaxyS Facebook page which looked remarkably similar until you read the owner info. Something you would think they would check first really. Egg face say no more.

electrotune1200 said:
FFS...
You have Gingerbread now. It's stable and useable. This can't hold you over a few more weeks?
I swear people just like hearing themselves *****.
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I can't see why people can't use their time anticipating the new release. It's not your time, obviously. Some people want to flash their phone with a safe, official firmware and want to know some ETA when it's going to happen. It's not like people are F5'ing every Android news site. Of course, this can hold but can't there be any speculation? It's up to XDA's moderators to decide, is this topic worth of discussing.
What comes to the first post, this is good news (if true) and in my opinion most reliable newsbit so far about Gingerbread. You shouldn't take it for granted that Samsung is liable to update its firmwares and "breaks promises" if doesn't. Operating as a company, Samsung's every firmware update is giving something to us, the customers. When people buy their phones, Samsung's is not liable to update firmwares if there's nothing critically wrong with it. Froyo is good but now we are on the road towards something even better. And it's a win-win situation to us.

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Maybe because it looks like JVK is not the final release version and still has some bugs?.
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you must have done somthing wrong then as I have no bugs at all been on it since saturday

I think even mid April is a tad optimistic. That's like 2 weeks.. and there's quite a bit left to fix and add. Together with the speed of which samsung works, I'm guessing May at the earliest.

frauhottelmann said:
I don't know why people always think that they deserve an apology from Samsung or that they get bad software support. Does anybody here have a written (or otherwise) guarantee that Sammy is giving us GB at a specific time? I guess not...
I admit that the first Eclair ROMs were crap and the GPS could be better, but seriously stop the whining, it's like talking with little kids that want their candy! Just wait until it's done and if it takes two weeks longer to sort out some bugs, then so be it...
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Samsung dont owe you anything. They provide roms where others stopped. Sit back and wait for the final...
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Android 2.4

getting tired of hearing about froyo and gingerbread all the time hee hee, so any ideas on what the next version will be like?

One step at a time.

Getting a bit eager aren't you?
We've only just got gingerbread, and it still needs some fine tuning by the sounds of it (I'm on JVK at the moment).
Regardless, as far as I know, 2.4 is going to be merging alot of the honeycomb features into the phone ui. Beyond that, we're really just going to be speculating.

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getting tired of hearing about froyo and gingerbread all the time hee hee, so any ideas on what the next version will be like?
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I don't think that's going to happen. It has been a super fast updating cycle 2.1 -> 2.2 -> 2.2.1 -> 2.3.3, so I think it going to stagnate now for SGS and only bugfix releases will come to our phone.
I'm glad that we have some home made roms to choose that will continue to improve. Because Samsung will not fix bugs as fast as our beloved rom-makers for our SGS.

yea i know thought id just go off topic a bit probably wont be out till next year/end of this year

Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
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ww

forget 2.4, I want 2.5 !

jscnz81 said:
getting tired of hearing about froyo and gingerbread all the time hee hee, so any ideas on what the next version will be like?
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As you all know that 2.3.3 GingerBread has lot of bugs and still all the phone Manufacturers like HTC, Samsung ,Sony Ericssion, Motorola...etc are facing issue with the Gingerbread version. Its Perfomance is not as expected.
Google is working with the phone Manufacturers to provide best solution.
May be Google will come up with Gingerbread 2.3.4 or it be 2.4 even.
As in Froyo 2.2 was the original version Released. But later lot of bugs was fixed & it was updated to 2.2.1 & 2.2.2... May be same comming up with GingerBread

I'd be surprised if the sgs saw another version of Android, not including light updates.

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I'd be surprised if the sgs saw another version of Android, not including light updates.
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Probability is Ice cream is the next update .
jje

You think they will configure it for the sgs as well as the sgs2?

More than likely but its in the future and could be hardware dependant .
jje

From what I've heard:
IceCream will be a total iPhone Killer, faster than Flash himself it will do things when you think about it, without user even inputing anything.
But google is facing massive issue and are trying to disable this feature or put some kind of filter because when the user gets drunk, the phones starts dialing the number of his/her ex at 03 in the morning and it cause massiv traffic on porn website mostly when used on male users.
Also, it is supposed to integrate a macro atom builder and provide a food delivery system. They are actually talking to many restaurater to beta test this feature and testing, as we speak, secret receipe in colaboration with McD so that you can order a Big Mac, pay it with your phone and, with a bluetooth enabled oven, create the atom and built it for you
It will also provide an interaction module that analyse your conversations and prevent you from saying conflicting sentences, so basicaly it will bring world to peace!
I can't wait to get my hands on it!

I want Ice Cream!
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t1mman said:
From what I've heard:
IceCream will be a total iPhone Killer, faster than Flash himself it will do things when you think about it, without user even inputing anything.
But google is facing massive issue and are trying to disable this feature or put some kind of filter because when the user gets drunk, the phones starts dialing the number of his/her ex at 03 in the morning and it cause massiv traffic on porn website mostly when used on male users.
Also, it is supposed to integrate a macro atom builder and provide a food delivery system. They are actually talking to many restaurater to beta test this feature and testing, as we speak, secret receipe in colaboration with McD so that you can order a Big Mac, pay it with your phone and, with a bluetooth enabled oven, create the atom and built it for you
It will also provide an interaction module that analyse your conversations and prevent you from saying conflicting sentences, so basicaly it will bring world to peace!
I can't wait to get my hands on it!
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Is it ext4 or rfs???????

If it will order me a Hooker and tug me off while i wait then I'm in!!!!

-Liam- said:
If it will order me a Hooker and tug me off while i wait then I'm in!!!!
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By the time your hooker arrives you won't recall what you needed her for.
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She can always make me some food

Well Andy said android versions will be released every 6 months so we should have the next one this summer
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