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2.1 in Q3

blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/06/16/x8-announcement-and-xperia-updates/
I smell "No x10 firmware update until Q3"....

disroyal said:
blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/06/16/x8-announcement-and-xperia-updates/
I smell "No x10 firmware update until Q3"....
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omg yeah just read this in a tweet! does this mean Q4 we get 2.2!? dammit just release it already!!!!

kmaximax said:
omg yeah just read this in a tweet! does this mean Q4 we get 2.2!? dammit just release it already!!!!
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Well the 2.2 isn't even mentioned, i doubt we will get it in this year.
BTW, great news, so we will get the 2.1 somewhere near september, not bad.

We are of course very glad to offer this upgrade earlier than originally planned. Xperia™ X10’s position will also be further strengthened through the addition of HD video recording as part of the same Q3 upgrade. A further upgrade to the Xperia™ X10 in Q4 will make it possible to connect and display wirelessly content on your television and enhance the Timescape™ and Mediascape applications.
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Froyo (wifi hotspot) hint?

Yes, read it on Easto, Such a great news And Mikrokiwi, You've a point

dlna
they mean

anders260 said:
dlna
they mean
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oh yea, makes sense
I've heard that they will skip froyo and move on to gingerbread anyway, but that is just pure speculations/rumors as always ^^

I really wish I could believe them when they say Q3...
The good thing is that we have a fairly functional Donut, we could've been stuck on a stock version and that would've been painful. When you avoid the cool but oh so slow stock apps like Timescape and add some stuff from the market it's a really nice OS.
What would be awesome though was if we could get vanilla images without all the extra stuff bolted on and the ability to customise it fully. But without root that's not gonna happen. :/

Sounds like the root news has scared them abit lol

Nice move SE
That's good to hear. I see where SE is going with this. Previously they planned one big 2.1 update on Q4 but after receiving numerous complaints they divided it into "2 phases" updates in Q3 and Q4. It’s clear from the announcement that the promised DLNA support along with other features will be postponed until phase 2 on Q4.

mikrokiwi said:
Froyo (wifi hotspot) hint?
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I think its more about Google TV. Probably u can use ur phone as remote or so.

Don't you just love how NOTHING about that small update was mentioned? Did they just stop with that one all together, or what?

great news!!! seems that SE started to listen to the market and customers. love SE!!!

so the first rollout will be september 30th! Just keep that in your mind and you will be ok!

Hopeful, but im still doubtful. Time will tell so lets hope they get it right.
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Theaccomplice88 said:
Don't you just love how NOTHING about that small update was mentioned? Did they just stop with that one all together, or what?
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* Apologies. I am aware that we haven’t followed up on the post re smaller software update that Sumit did a couple of weeks ago. We will get back to you with more info on this very shortly (read very shortly)
Wouldnt that be a little info?

At least it sounds like they're starting to listen to their customers "a little".
To survive on the market they have to provide smaller, faster update cycles. It's the new model to stay competitive. Releasing monolithic updates that take forever just doesn't work anymore because there are so many other alternatives available and people don't have to wait. They'll just move on and then all the work put into the update is wasted because no one is using your product.
So fingers crossed.

gr00vy0ne said:
At least it sounds like they're starting to listen to their customers "a little".
To survive on the market they have to provide smaller, faster update cycles. It's the new model to stay competitive. Releasing monolithic updates that take forever just doesn't work anymore because there are so many other alternatives available and people don't have to wait. They'll just move on and then all the work put into the update is wasted because no one is using your product.
So fingers crossed.
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That's not how SE thinks and works. A more obvious explanation would be the Release of the X8 , so they try to push the Phone ASAP to the market and as both Phones, with slightly differences , have the same Specs they try to get the X8 on the market WITH Android 2.1 , so they have to hurry up and as they do 2.1 for the X8 they spend the update to the X10 a bit earlier. SE learned how the market reacted to their release of the X10 with Android 1.6 and I'm almost sure they won't do the same mistake with the X8.
SE is pushing new Models to the market very quick and they want to sell them all. When we get 2.1 we can be happy because i don't see a further Release of 2.2 or higher for the X10 , this will be exclusive for their new Flagships.

All android phones shall be getting updates.
The only way flagships shall differ will be through hardware.
From a reliable source.

se_dude said:
All android phones shall be getting updates.
The only way flagships shall differ will be through hardware.
From a reliable source.
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So all devices will have outdated OS:es, but flagships will have beefier hardware they can't use?

Google Officially Updates Us On Froyo Status – FRF72 Was Not Final,

From : http://www.google.com/support/forum...488da0ef21660d1300048994d2e4bf4c&hl=en&hltp=1
Ry Guy
Google Employee
07:03 PM
Hey guys,
Just dropping in to let you know that the FRF72 build that is floating around is not the official update. The Android team is feverishly working to get a final version out the door, but like passion-ate has mentioned this will only happen once a release candidate meets our quality criteria.
Since today is the Summer Solstice, we know things will be heating up a bit so hopefully Froyo will be on its way shortly. Thanks for your continued patience!
-Ry Guy
So… that tells us… not very much but we now know 2 things:
* FRF72, which was the latest official leaked Froyo build, was not the final version (we kind of already suspected that)
* and Froyo is still not ready

cool, thnx for the info

And so the wait continues...
Then again if the google guys think that FRF72 still doesn't meet their standards... could be a good thing.
I'm expecting the OTA'd Froyo to have the option to take over Apple's servers and Ddos them to pieces.

watch, we will have waited all this time for froyo and instead we get gingerbread. (crosses fingers and hopes)

Good to know...seems like Google is taking QA to a new level!

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/When+It's+Done
(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".

sandtiger said:
http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/When+It's+Done
(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".
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just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years

lalalalala

Blueman101 said:
just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years
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Pretty sure its actually five years in the making because I've been watching for 3 years and I'm sure they started in 04-05 right after half life source came out. nothing compared to duke nukem forever

JCopernicus said:
lalalalala
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This newb is curious, how are you tracking these things?

flybyme said:
.....nothing compared to duke nukem froyo
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Needed a small edit, all fixed now.

funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!

RogerPodacter said:
funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!
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I agree, its tough to be mad since we already have it anyway. But I'm with you I'm intrigued by the delay, not put off by it. Hopefully google will not be too embarrassed to announce what caused the delay.

Re: Google Officially Updates Us On Froyo Status – FRF72 Was Not Final,
I'm still excited, they work hard at Goggle, I'm sure the official update its going to be great when its ready.

I think we should have stick to 2.1 till the official froyo comes up,it's good to see that Desire to N1 Roms are active again

Rodriguezstyle ROM with FRF72 us amazing already
Fastest, smoothest Android I've ever used.
Cant wait for 75

So FRF72 is not the final build. What will be in the new build. Is there a list available what items is not met yet in the FRF72 build?

All this time I always have a feeling that froyo is being delayed due to flash! My thought is that they are waiting for the final flash build to optimize froyo for it.

Adobe has released Full flash 10.1 to android androidcentral.com/adobe-releases-flash-101-partners
so dont think they are waiting on flash anymore

and whilst waiting for flash to be ready they thought. "Hey, let's watch some korean drama and worry about gingerbread later"

More Froyo news!!! Almost there??? :)

http://www.androidcentral.com/leaked-e-mail-points-successful-froyo-testing-samsung-galaxy-s

well if someone can translate that would be great

A little of eagle eyed viewing shows that the mail was sent on 27th of september....so, 1 week should imply froyo to have been released 5 days back??? :O

balenax said:
well if someone can translate that would be great
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Already done:
Froyo Status Update - Can anyone read Korean?

How can anyone be sure that is a real email? I mean why would samsung execs, or anyone else that might make decisions upon receiving this news need the particular screen shots attached. Do they need a screen shot showing the version to believe it!?
That seems more like something the community would do..... Call me cynical.
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Hmmm ... ITs taking time to be released worldwide .. . probably lost in Translation from Korean to other languages

Could the release of 2.2.1 for the Nexus One have caused an extra delay?

balenax said:
well if someone can translate that would be great
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You can use Google Translate.
PS: scuze, acum imi dau seama la ce te refereai de fapt .

But today on twitter Samsung India says:
All our users who are waiting for froyo , please note that froyo is expected to launch by end of this month. No exact dates are confirmed.
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twitter.com/#!/Samsung_Mobiles/status/26579290440

so its not yet officially out yet

Sure hope its delay issue is because of the 2.2.1 release..
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Every day is painstaking as I wait for froyo... Mainly I want HID support, but I don't wanna flash to the beta leaks yet.

Surprisingly all the leaked builds suddenly seems to have stopped after JPK! I wonder why Samsung keeps us all guessing and dying here out of anxiety...is it really hard for them just to say what they have on their minds?!?! Even if they slip on the date, they can atleast keep us posted....not like we'd eat them up for slipping a date :|
hmph!

All this waiting is gonna give me a heart attack... At this age!! come come oh sweet flash! :-D

Look at the date on the korean mail ....
2010/09/27 ..... What happened since then ?

here is an official(kind of) answer from samsung romania on a question asked today on facebook; if the update will be avaible on 15th of octomber
translated from romanian
update coming in the second half of October, to add the solution of the three buttons Recovery Mode application reported by some users. We will announce the availability of useful tips before for the update keep in touch
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Samsung rep in norway said middle of october. "Next week", but if its this week or next week is not clear. Personaly I can wait another week without problems. My phone with jm2, no root, no lag fix have no lag to speak of, gps works fine and battery behaves nicely too.

HTC desire HD looking better by the minute.....

cheetah2k said:
HTC desire HD looking better by the minute.....
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On a Side Note:
Unfortunately I could never RESPECT HTC being an OEM for HP and many other brands, still it could never develop products which really appeal me. Samsung on the other hand came with some of the firsts of times like Voice Dialing, Super AMOLED to name a few.
My only complain about Galaxy S is the lack of touch sensitive middle button which could have acted as a trackpad! Also, lack of physical keyboard pains a bit, but I hope Android can really come to terms with Windows Phone which is limited in flexibility like iPhone. Android has their own problems being on initial stage.
Please excuse for dragging the discussion to another angle, however, I believe Samsung is also in infancy like Android while HTC is gradually maturing (though long way to go, not sure if they will ever make it).
With Galaxy S, Samsung made the right move, at the right time. They just need a good development team now to improve their software platform, features and flexibility of this phone atleast in terms of multimedia and performance (the features which best suit this phone).
Sorry for the long post, however I hope Samsung and we at XDA can really work wonders to this phone atleast in terms of multimedia support and features like simultaneous recording and playback of HD Audio (24bit 96kHz) which I believe this phone is capable of including call recording option atleast through a third party app. Hope this could be realized by the Froyo release or further updates, or through the capable developers of XDA.

oswade said:
Every day is painstaking as I wait for froyo... Mainly I want HID support, but I don't wanna flash to the beta leaks yet.
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do you know for sure if HID support is coming?

Gingerbread sdk out next week?

Going through a lot of white pages and news articles...gingerbread might just be around the corner...once the sdk drops it won't be long before devs jump on it and everyone has it on there android handsets...might take longer for samsung phones but that's just because they want to keep their stuff top security classified it seems like.anyways just seen the news poping around for the past few days and didn't see a post on it...check out android spin and the other top resources if you like....
Enjoy
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Vibrant Gingerbread, Samsung. OH lord, you just made my day....
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yes, I am seeing this news everywhere also. Something interesting is that they (Beta Testers) say that Gingerbread will "change the way we use our phones." This sounds like something major.

kangxi said:
Yes, I am seeing this news everywhere also. Something interesting is that they (Beta Testers) say that Gingerbread will "change the way we use our phones." This sounds like something major.
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Heh....I'd just like to see a handset like the Mozilla Seabird get built in the next 3-5yrs. I know it's a concept but man...what a concept.

Change the way we use our phones? Well these past decade there are a lot of changes on the way we use our phones already. What more, do laundry?
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Froyo first please.

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Froyo first please.
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^^^^^^this

Kinda a noob, but if this uses the same kernel as froyo won't it be easy ish to port the sdk?

MTC44 said:
Kinda a noob, but if this uses the same kernel as froyo won't it be easy ish to port the sdk?
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It might. But we need the kernel to begin with
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Looks like Gingerbread is based on .33 or .34. Gonna be a while, If ever

Well figured this would be a nice change from the froyo crying...lol
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Yep, the joke is on us suckers, who go fooled by Samsung's lofty statements about the Galaxy S being their mobile game-changer.
Gingerbread will change the UI dramatically, and thus it will really change the way people use Android. OS 2.1 and 2.1 still feel like work in progress, and even Google claims that OS 3 will finally take the platform to a mature stage.
But I am losing faith that we'll see Gingerbread on the Galaxy S. By the time we finally get Froyo, Gingerbread will probably be officially released.
Then Samsung will EOL the Galaxy S, repackage it with a slightly faster chip version and go to market trying to get new suckers to buy the Gingerbread version, or old suckers to upgrade to it....
Phew!

If the release it for the galaxy s 2 or whatever it will be much easier for the devs to port over than it is for them to get group working now since samsung will most certainly keep very similar hardware in the next iteration of the phone.
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Tpavey said:
If the release it for the galaxy s 2 or whatever it will be much easier for the devs to port over than it is for them to get group working now since samsung will most certainly keep very similar hardware in the next iteration of the phone.
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Hopefully true.
But there is little excuse for Samsung being so slow to push upgrades. It's been 5 months since the OFFICIAL Froyo release, and Samsung must have had access to betas way earlier.
It will also be inexcusable if they don't upgrade the current Galaxy S to Gingerbread, since it's such a major upgrade and the phone hardware is compliant with it.
I am grateful for the devs here, but at the same time, I just went back to stock JI6 (just with a standard Android lockscreen mod), and frankly the battery life improved a little, plus the phone seems a bit more stable overall.
At this point I just want stability and the latest released firmware and OS. And it's Samsung's responsibility to provide it in a timely manner.

Thinking ahead

Now that Samsung have released ICS for GS2, and Custom ROMs will now be ICS based (the majority, at least), this leads us to think... are these the last major OS updates Samsung will give our beloved GS2? Will we receive Jelly Bean, or, dare I say.. Key Lime Pie?

No is my guess. We may get a value pack!

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No is my guess. We may get a value pack!
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I agree, after seeing the fate of the Galaxy S.

We get directly a new phone delivered by samsung ceo
Galaxy S got Eclair froyo and GINGERBREAD so 3 os version
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I think there might be a possibility of jelly bean, I wouldn't rule it out just yet.

Red_Vex said:
We get directly a new phone delivered by samsung ceo
Galaxy S got Eclair froyo and GINGERBREAD so 3 os version
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Yes, but not only gingerbread, it got 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6 and 2.3.6 with a value pack, i consider that quite a lot of updates

Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.

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Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.
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Just to add to that people forget that we have at current moment the best ****ing dual core android phone on the market. so if samsung does stop their support we are damn sure that we have the best devs around to still support our phone with whatever OS comes out in the coming year. Devs come and go but i have read a post by one of the most respectful devs around in these forums and he is staying put...so as long as we have him we have nothing to worry about..
Now as regarding new OS...Jelly Bean, Key Lime, Fruity Pebbles, Kung Pao Chicken or whatever you want to have *****es please....ICS has just arrived and not in full force yet and you lot talking about new OS...What in the freaking blue hell is wrong with you lot? lol enjoy the goodness of ICS and go away for your summer holidays, spring break or whatever and then think about the new OS when the time is right...Jesus

Some countries never got an official 2.3.6 update for the GSII.
Some carriers, like ZTA (Claro, Brazil) are way too damn stupid to allow for updates.

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Now that Samsung have released ICS for GS2, and Custom ROMs will now be ICS based (the majority, at least), this leads us to think... are these the last major OS updates Samsung will give our beloved GS2? Will we receive Jelly Bean, or, dare I say.. Key Lime Pie?
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I will give you the answer once my crystal ball comes back from repairs.
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Just to add to that people forget that we have at current moment the best ****ing dual core android phone on the market. so if samsung does stop their support we are damn sure that we have the best devs around to still support our phone with whatever OS comes out in the coming year. Devs come and go but i have read a post by one of the most respectful devs around in these forums and he is staying put...so as long as we have him we have nothing to worry about..
Now as regarding new OS...Jelly Bean, Key Lime, Fruity Pebbles, Kung Pao Chicken or whatever you want to have *****es please....ICS has just arrived and not in full force yet and you lot talking about new OS...What in the freaking blue hell is wrong with you lot? lol enjoy the goodness of ICS and go away for your summer holidays, spring break or whatever and then think about the new OS when the time is right...Jesus
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Kung pao chicken!!!!!!!!!! +1. Would evolve our phones!!!
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I hope that there will be still some development from Samsung, because the sources of them improve the developing of alternative Roms for the phones.
If i´m right we can see this by the ICS roms, for example missing kernal sources for video record and still waiting for other sources from samsung for developers.
But i worry about that this will not look like that. Maybe some value pack, like other mentioned.
Recording to the update policy i think maybe should choose a google phone next time ? :/

HD_ said:
I hope that there will be still some development from Samsung, because the sources of them improve the developing of alternative Roms for the phones.
If i´m right we can see this by the ICS roms, for example missing kernal sources for video record and still waiting for other sources from samsung for developers.
But i worry about that this will not look like that. Maybe some value pack, like other mentioned.
Recording to the update policy i think maybe should choose a google phone next time ? :/
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well people talking about development and saying that in the next year samsung will kinda fade away it's support for the s2 why are you people worrying. if you actually read you guys should know that the first galaxy s1...i mean i go onto the forums over there and they still have enough development still going on. the same goes for here.
yes there is a lot of hype around the galaxy s3 and i am pretty sure that alot of devs can not wait to get their hands on it. but i am still sure that alot of respectful devs will wait around till a phone and handset that is worth going for and that they know they will get support from google itself, to purchase one ie the next Nexus. the development and the manner they get the updates and sources for that handset is brilliant and amazing. so for me by the looks of it my s2 still has plenty of life and i hope i still be here helping people when jelly bean or fruity pebbles comes along..and then when the new nexus comes along i will be buying that to

There's not much to think about now. Seeing how fast mobile phones evolve, the SGS2 might not even have the appropriate hardware for a new OS. I'm thinking full HD and bigger screens, hovering over screen sensors, screen projection, using the phone as a desktop, 3D stuff...
I'm awaiting Ics, and if and when i'm tired of it, I am sure i'm tired of my phone as well and buy a new one. This is a phone for hardware enthusiasts, one and a half years is more than enough for me.

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well people talking about development and saying that in the next year samsung will kinda fade away it's support for the s2 why are you people worrying. if you actually read you guys should know that the first galaxy s1...i mean i go onto the forums over there and they still have enough development still going on. the same goes for here.
yes there is a lot of hype around the galaxy s3 and i am pretty sure that alot of devs can not wait to get their hands on it. but i am still sure that alot of respectful devs will wait around till a phone and handset that is worth going for and that they know they will get support from google itself, to purchase one ie the next Nexus. the development and the manner they get the updates and sources for that handset is brilliant and amazing. so for me by the looks of it my s2 still has plenty of life and i hope i still be here helping people when jelly bean or fruity pebbles comes along..and then when the new nexus comes along i will be buying that to
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Yes its true that there is still a huge continuing development for SGS1 and there is atm a huge development for SGS2 and i also think that the development will also last very long. Especially because there is enough power in the SGS2 ( Hardware) to get along with further Updates.
So yes i worry that samsung will stop the developing for the phone maybe,but i also know that other DEvs will not

Without Flash support, i dont care about Android V5.
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Simonetti2011 said:
Some countries never got an official 2.3.6 update for the GSII.
Some carriers, like ZTA (Claro, Brazil) are way too damn stupid to allow for updates.
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Lol for me in my country i got only one update wich is 2.3.3 we didnt recive aby update later than that .......
Im using odin to flash firmwares
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XDA mark said:
Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.
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I think we will. The Exynos + 1gb RAM is way ahead of it's time.

The Google upgrade agreement with all manufacturers is that all phones that are hardware capable will get upgrades for the first eighteen months from date of first sale of the model .
SGS2 3rd may 2012 .
Jellybean before Dec 2012 i would not think so .
jje

no way ,now new phones r online an wen a new model is out wiv jelly bean ,,,companies will force out an advertise tht phones so these old phones i don think ppl will remember...quad cores r already out