Long story short, I was able to update to Mango but lost the backup for my Focus which I need to roll back to in order to get the retail version of Mango. Should I be worried? Are there any resources which will allow me to roll back my phone's software version? Should I be worried or just wait it out and hope for the best? Please advise, thanks.
Long version, if anyone is interested. As I was updating to Mango, something went wrong. My phone already had Mango, but wasn't functioning, so I had to restart the whole update process. So Zune re-backed up my phone, so now, my backup is OF mango! So, my phone is functioning with Mango but I cannot go back to NoDo.
Shouldn't you be able to restore back to one of those official roms that are out there now. They are preNodo
The lesson here is keep backups (read copy somewhere else the restore Zune creates).
As said above, you can restart back to 7004 by flashing one of the first 2 roms in this post.
You won't be keeping anything this way and you would start from scratch.
Another thought is that your backup should still be here, with the OS state before Mango beta (I assume NoDo).
Drive:\PreMangoState
(Drive is the drive where you performed the Mango Update).
If you deleted it... you did it to yourself
EnderPsp said:
The lesson here is keep backups (read copy somewhere else the restore Zune creates).
As said above, you can restart back to 7004 by flashing one of the first 2 roms in this post.
You won't be keeping anything this way and you would start from scratch.
Another thought is that your backup should still be here, with the OS state before Mango beta (I assume NoDo).
Drive:\PreMangoState
(Drive is the drive where you performed the Mango Update).
If you deleted it... you did it to yourself
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Oh wow. Thank you. I was getting worried. I am going to look in that folder, should be there, as I didn't delete anything. Worse come worse, I can use the link you provided. Thanks again. Will be more careful in the future :|
wmcookie said:
Oh wow. Thank you. I was getting worried. I am going to look in that folder, should be there, as I didn't delete anything. Worse come worse, I can use the link you provided. Thanks again. Will be more careful in the future :|
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You're welcome and I sure hope you do have the backup in the folder I mentioned. There should also be a restore.bat (just read the notes of the tool).
Keep in mind that you will have to get back to NoDo somehow, later, when the real Mango (this is the beta for devs) is publicly released (rumors say September or autumn, but there isn't a release date yet).
Lost my backup when i reinstalled zune
So, zune stopped working and I uninstalled and reinstalled it. By doing this I lost my backup and forgot to copy it to another place on my computer. I am wondering any options I can do. I am running mango 7712 beta 2 build and I want to run 7720 mango. Is there any way to create a current backup and use that to update to 7720 mango?
My phone is not unlocked in any way.
siralex241 said:
So, zune stopped working and I uninstalled and reinstalled it. By doing this I lost my backup and forgot to copy it to another place on my computer. I am wondering any options I can do. I am running mango 7712 beta 2 build and I want to run 7720 mango. Is there any way to create a current backup and use that to update to 7720 mango?
My phone is not unlocked in any way.
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you can update to the 7720 build that was leaked on xda, you don't need to downgrade for that.
if you want to go the official route once it's released from att, you can downgrade to a prenodo rom that's in the focus dev forum here and then let zune take you to mango, but you will lose all your apps and data.
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Has anyone been able to update to mango on rev 1.4? I'm on 7392, unlocked and provisioned to receive the 7401 update but my phone stalls at step 6 of 9, rebooting the phone. Zune says I have an update, but can't complete the update.
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I don't really think you can
Did you manage to make a backup ?
I can't even do that
I can make a backup for 7004 and 7008 then it stalls on 7392
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I can make a backup for 7004 and 7008 then it stalls on 7392
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Yeah same here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224139 Look here for the instruction of moving to 7720 for Samsung devices. It took around 2 hours on my Samsung focus, and yes, it's rev 1.4. But now that everyone and the rev 1.3 owners are rolling to official Mango, I feel like we're being left out (Until "late-October" AT&T says)
try killing the zune autolauncher service, it was stalling the update process (would hang at rebooting) on my 1.3 device, after killing it, it went through fine
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try killing the zune autolauncher service, it was stalling the update process (would hang at rebooting) on my 1.3 device, after killing it, it went through fine
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But we all are on rev 1.4, which at the moment can only use 7720 RTM, not official. All 1.4 devices will not get update notification until late October (Quote AT&T). Official Mango update is pushed to 1.3 devices today, though. Have fun, adiliyo~
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try killing the zune autolauncher service, it was stalling the update process (would hang at rebooting) on my 1.3 device, after killing it, it went through fine
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Hi, forgive my ignorance but what do you mean by "killing the Zune Autolauncher service"?
I have the Samsung Focus v1.4 on 7390-Walshed. I haven't been able to successfully unWalsh my phone and when I received the 7392 update, I got stuck on step 6 (Rebooting phone) stage where the phone would get stuck on reboot for hours. (Yes, I let it run for 2+ hours but no luck and a very warm phone.)
So, I'm trying to get to Mango anyway possible.
Thanks.
Could somebody please explain to me how to check what revision I'm using? I can't seem to find that anywhere online.
Thanks
remove the battery and check the white sticker behind it.
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Hi, forgive my ignorance but what do you mean by "killing the Zune Autolauncher service"?
I have the Samsung Focus v1.4 on 7390-Walshed. I haven't been able to successfully unWalsh my phone and when I received the 7392 update, I got stuck on step 6 (Rebooting phone) stage where the phone would get stuck on reboot for hours. (Yes, I let it run for 2+ hours but no luck and a very warm phone.)
So, I'm trying to get to Mango anyway possible.
Thanks.
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open task manager and end the "ZuneLauncher.exe" process, after killing that the rebooting steps worked without any hitches for me.
this was during my update to the leaked 7720.68 RTM, so if you're having those issues with a 1.4 device regardless of what you're trying to flash, it's something to try, as it won't hurt anything even if it doesn't help.
i only had to do it once, and now i leave it running and the phone just got the "samsung update" today and it flashed just fine.
adiliyo said:
open task manager and end the "ZuneLauncher.exe" process, after killing that the rebooting steps worked without any hitches for me.
this was during my update to the leaked 7720.68 RTM, so if you're having those issues with a 1.4 device regardless of what you're trying to flash, it's something to try, as it won't hurt anything even if it doesn't help.
i only had to do it once, and now i leave it running and the phone just got the "samsung update" today and it flashed just fine.
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Well, I gave this a try but didn't work. A few comments.
1. In Task Manager, the only process that I have for ZUNE is the Zune.exe. I don't see a ZuneLauncher.exe process.
2. As before, the phone gets stuck on reboot at step 6 of 10. Essentially, the phone has the Samsung logo on the screen and just stays there.
3. When I power down the phone and reboot, I get an 801812C1 error code. (The usual stopping point for me.)
So, not sure what to try next. I've been reading as much as I could on this forum and one thing I haven't tried is the UCKJ2 AT&T i917 (I think) ROM install. But I've read a few people who have a "Walshed" phone not being about to get that ROM installed. Stuck at the same point. (Or they could also have the rev1.4 version as well like me. A double whammy for me, Walshed and Rev 1.4 ....sigh).
Thanks for the tip though.
Heya fellow optimus 7 owners, I'm trying to install the mango beta update but without success. I'm stuck at the part where I have to copy the custclear thing. This thing doesn't shows up in my documents and also there should be a my ringtones folder but that one isn't there aswell. I am at the latest offical update now and my phone unlocked though the mfg app.
I hope someone can help me with this problem.
Mike.
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WTF ?!
Just follow THIS link and in less than one hour u'll enjoy your Mango Optimus
No need to copy anything on your phone, the process is automatic and make a backup of your phone.
Hey thanks for that link mate but for some reason after the backup process zune starts but I don't get the update :S Do I have to downgrade my phone for that ? Since im on 7392 i believe.
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Assuming you don't mind having NO BACKUP and no way to get back to NoDo for the full Mango update in Autumn*, for an even easier way than Sakem's post, try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15625488#post15625488
You need the AppMfg app, available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841892
Unlocked my device and now rocking Mango build 7712. NOTE: it can be VERY slow updating and/or take multiple connections for the zune software to pick it up. Be patient. Also in theory Mango isn't supported by Zune 4.7, however I had no problem myself.
*I'm hoping XDA will figure out a way to revert back to Mango and/or do an factory reinstall. I'm not bothered about data, as there's none on the device.
You have to be at least on nodo to update to mango
Well, 7392 is NoDo right ?
Yep :/
Strange that zune don't upgrade your optimus
I did this method yesterday and had no problem :/
1. The *.bat backup your phone and cheat your phone to be recognised as dev phone (not just unlock)
2. Zune must find a first update
3. Then the second one is the final (last one at least) update (which take a bit longer)
4.After mango update done, you have to use Zune 4.8 beta to synchronise your phone again and have to do the MFG tricks to unlock it.
Hmmm that's maybe the problem that I've zune beta 4.8 already ... Gonna reinstall 4.7 now
On 4.7 now and still no sign of a update =(
Try to launch the .bat process again :/
You installed Windows Phone Support Tool, right ?
retried like 20 times now with both running as admin and normal but still nothing :S And yup I've installed them. May I ask what version of windows are you running ?
Running 7pro x64 with both Zune for x64 et Windows Phone Support Tool for x64
Maybe your 4.8 Zune changed some files you shouldn't have yet (even going back to 4.7)
I suggest you read the comments on my link, it's huge but I saw some dudes having problems too (some with walshied phones).
Sorry for you and I really can't say "forget about it Mango is not so important" cos Mango is ..."alleluia"
haha XD Well gonna try it on my laptop it has only 4.7 on it so hope that is tha problem
Whoop Whoop It's updating *evil laugh* Thanks for the help <3
Nice ! Happy for you. So it was zune 4.8 indeed ?
Don't forget that u'll have 2 updates to reach mango 7712 and that u'll have to unlock your phone with MFG again....and finally u'll be able to use Zune...4.8 ^^
Hi,
I was running 7712 and tried to restore a NoDo Restore Point I had. It failed. Now, it shows the samsung screen and eventually gets to the connect to PC screen but it doesnt fully bootup anymore. It can still connect to my PC and retries using the restore point but never works. Help is MUCH appreciated. Thanks
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Hi,
I was running 7712 and tried to restore a NoDo Restore Point I had. It failed. Now, it shows the samsung screen and eventually gets to the connect to PC screen but it doesnt fully bootup anymore. It can still connect to my PC and retries using the restore point but never works. Help is MUCH appreciated. Thanks
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Had this problem too, and didn't manage to restore.
I suppose it happened because I filled more than half of the available capacity (or so I think).
I even tried downgrading to 7004 and retry the backup then, that didn't work either.
You can try that, if that doesn't work... you'd be out of luck, like I was.
Try again and again different scenarios, be imaginative, maybe you can find a solution that works in your case.
I tried flashing 7004 to it with the WP7 USB Image tool and that did not work either. I keep getting an error..something about the phone not matching? The error descriptions cuts off and I cant see all of it..and I did use the correct one for my hardware rev. Help?
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I tried flashing 7004 to it with the WP7 USB Image tool and that did not work either. I keep getting an error..something about the phone not matching? The error descriptions cuts off and I cant see all of it..and I did use the correct one for my hardware rev. Help?
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Can you detail a bit more about your phone?
Revision (1.3/1.4), card installed (type/size)
When the error started to appear etc. Anything you think might be useful/relevant.
I have hardware rev 1.3. I do not have any SD card in my phone at the moment, nor have I ever. I can get to the download menu and restoration menu in zune, but it all fails. I think what messed things up was I tried to format while on 7712 to try to get back to factory default. This took me to a "new" 7712 with the default settings. I even tried formatting by holding PWR + Vol DWN + camera to no avail. When i was stuck with 7712, I tried to use my restore point to get back to NoDo. Thats when it all came crashing down. I think I need to wait until newer roms become available. Help?
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I have hardware rev 1.3. I do not have any SD card in my phone at the moment, nor have I ever. I can get to the download menu and restoration menu in zune, but it all fails. I think what messed things up was I tried to format while on 7712 to try to get back to factory default. This took me to a "new" 7712 with the default settings. I even tried formatting by holding PWR + Vol DWN + camera to no avail. When i was stuck with 7712, I tried to use my restore point to get back to NoDo. Thats when it all came crashing down. I think I need to wait until newer roms become available. Help?
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Not being able to hard reset suggests some kind of problem, which either points to the hardware or the flash. Let's leave the hw for now, so you can easily assume it's a flashing problem.
I would go with a 7004 ROM and start from scratch. If everything works well, you might be able to use your restore.
However, if something's really wrong with your phone, flashing might actually do more damage and possibly brick your phone. Not to scare you, but to make you aware of alternatives.
I have already tried flashing with the 7004 rom and it did not work. I kept getting an error about the devices not matching. I am thinking that I need to flash with at least a 7712 rom, since it seems that is now the phones default version. weird.
Bump. I think that if i were to have a restore point that was 7712 or above, I can get the phone back in operating condition. I'd be willing to pay if anyone is interested. However, it has to have no windows live account attached to it. I.E. restore, and skip entering in account info.
samfirmware.com has couple firmware for Focus. If you can get your phone into download mode (connect to PC screen), you can flash the firmware to it. Not sure which tool to use (ODIN or else) for flashing firmware. Check the dev forum for help.
Thanks for the reply. I checked out samfirmware.com and didnt see any specifically for the focus..any chance i can get a link to them?
Edit: Nevermind, I found them. Ill try them out.
I tried flashing with the roms on samfirmware.com, I got the same results with those roms as the ones posted in the forums here. I assume I need at least a 7712 rom to flash to, as my phone has essentially "forgotten" that anything before that exists and doesnt know how to go back to it. I can still use a fresh restore point from 7712 or beyond please. I am stuck using some horrible old phone while i fix this lol.
Edit: Grammar
Happy to report that after various configurations of my process, I finally got it work. I used the roms that are up on these forums. If anyone has the same issue i had here... try different computers. try different cables. try different ports. That's how I got it to work. Thanks to those that gave me suggestions.
I sense that when official Mango finally hits, we will see a lot ppl hitting the same issue as you because you must roll back to NoDo firmware before you can apply official Mango updates if you're on 7712 Mango beta, IIRC.
foxbat121 said:
I sense that when official Mango finally hits, we will see a lot ppl hitting the same issue as you because you must roll back to NoDo firmware before you can apply official Mango updates if you're on 7712 Mango beta, IIRC.
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If I read this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215501) correctly, you should be able to start with 7712... just jump to step 16 as indicated by step 5a.
schahr01 said:
If I read this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215501) correctly, you should be able to start with 7712... just jump to step 16 as indicated by step 5a.
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I'm not so sure about that. Just ask those who walshed their Focuse try to get to NoDo faster(which is actually also from Microsoft). There are likely firmware updates accompanied by the official release for Focus. Anything that's not running official NoDo updates will probably have a tough time getting that official update, or anything after that.
I updated my phone to the Mango Beta, which was all fine and dandy until I changed my Live ID login. That's fine, except my phone got out of Live sync. I want to reset to factory settings, but I'll lose my game data. So, maybe I'll back it up? No, you have to be jailbroken. Ok, I'll jailbreak. No, you have to be on an earlier firmware and THEN update to Mango with the jailbreak installed. Ok, I'll restore back to my previous firmware. Nope, Zune and Windows Phone Support Tools don't support restoration of Mango builds. I need help. Bad.
What exactly do you want here?
If you are trying to restore settings, it sounds like you're out of luck.
If you're trying to restore your firmware, find a RUU file (the user ansar has posted several in this forum) for your network operator, and run it from recovery mode.
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I updated my phone to the Mango Beta, which was all fine and dandy until I changed my Live ID login. That's fine, except my phone got out of Live sync. I want to reset to factory settings, but I'll lose my game data. So, maybe I'll back it up? No, you have to be jailbroken. Ok, I'll jailbreak. No, you have to be on an earlier firmware and THEN update to Mango with the jailbreak installed. Ok, I'll restore back to my previous firmware. Nope, Zune and Windows Phone Support Tools don't support restoration of Mango builds. I need help. Bad.
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Hey I know what you mean with restoring back your games etc..
Firstly you got the correct advice, but you just need a bit of guidance.
Back up your game settings by using WPV App Data Backup - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223619
Now you may either reset your phone back to factory default (Firmware will stay as Mango) or downgrade the firmware using ansars or install HSPL/RSPL then install ansars europe rom (check out my guide posted by wicked penguin on my behalf - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207721 )
Once you have unlocked your phone you can use itje guide to upgrade to mango and keeping your phone unlocked - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215501
Now install all your games and apps then use WPV App Data Backup to restore all your game settings etc...
Note: Step 2 - You don't have to downgrade your firmware etc... you can just use a factory reset. I've included the rest of the instructions incase you or anyone else reading is interested in doing a full reinstall.
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Hey I know what you mean with restoring back your games etc..
Firstly you got the correct advice, but you just need a bit of guidance.
Back up your game settings by using WPV App Data Backup - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223619
Now you may either reset your phone back to factory default (Firmware will stay as Mango) or downgrade the firmware using ansars or install HSPL/RSPL then install ansars europe rom (check out my guide posted by wicked penguin on my behalf - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207721 )
Once you have unlocked your phone you can use itje guide to upgrade to mango and keeping your phone unlocked - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215501
Now install all your games and apps then use WPV App Data Backup to restore all your game settings etc...
Note: Step 2 - You don't have to downgrade your firmware etc... you can just use a factory reset. I've included the rest of the instructions incase you or anyone else reading is interested in doing a full reinstall.
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Well, I just did a factory reset. I couldn't back up my data because I'm not jailbroken. I guess I'm okay now, but why would I have installed a European rom? I'm US.
Mama Krama said:
Well, I just did a factory reset. I couldn't back up my data because I'm not jailbroken. I guess I'm okay now, but why would I have installed a European rom? I'm US.
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Sorry wasn't sure if you were jailbroken or not you won't be able to use the WPV App data without it, I prefer the European rom version as it has an updated radio version and support for additional languages.
Hey guys, I just got a Focus i917R, and after updating through Zune, it seems like my keyboard isn't keeping up with my typing. The keyboard doesn't miss anything I'm typing either, it just takes forever to catch up with me.
For example, I'll type "Hi how are you doing today?"
And by the time I'm done, I'm watching the keyboard type by itself at "you doing today?"
Any idea how to fix this? It's kind of annoying.
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Hey guys, I just got a Focus i917R, and after updating through Zune, it seems like my keyboard isn't keeping up with my typing. The keyboard doesn't miss anything I'm typing either, it just takes forever to catch up with me.
For example, I'll type "Hi how are you doing today?"
And by the time I'm done, I'm watching the keyboard type by itself at "you doing today?"
Any idea how to fix this? It's kind of annoying.
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What version do you have, 8107?
Yes, 8107. The problem gets better when I disable keyboard press sounds.
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Yes, 8107. The problem gets better when I disable keyboard press sounds.
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You need to read this and this. Not a fix, but at least gives you an idea: it's because of the "Samsung update" from AT&T, so you'll need to restore.
Well that's ridiculous, why would Zune install an AT&T update onto my Rogers phone?
Is there a guide on restoring to an earlier update? What will I lose by not having this update? I don't want to go pre-mango.
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Well that's ridiculous, why would Zune install an AT&T update onto my Rogers phone?
Is there a guide on restoring to an earlier update? What will I lose by not having this update? I don't want to go pre-mango.
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The point I was trying to make is that the updates released from the carrier (in those cases AT&T, in your case Rogers) affected the phone's performance. The specific update we are talking about is NOT any of the WP7 OS updates but the "Samsung update".
For restoring, sync first in Zune. Then, when connected, go to Settings (top) and then click Update (left). I should say "your phone is up to date" and in the lower part of the screen you should have a "Restore" option.
Alright, thank you for clearing that up.
As for restoring, won't that just restore my phone to the same 8107 update? Or does restore downgrade me somehow?
ShensMobile said:
Alright, thank you for clearing that up.
As for restoring, won't that just restore my phone to the same 8107 update? Or does restore downgrade me somehow?
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Restore is downgrade to the version you had just before the update, which in your case it's probably 7740. After that, you can try to update again and see if the update is good this time? Sometimes the update is "upgraded" (updated for compatibility, stability etc).
A backup is performed by Zune, for your phone, each time you update, exactly so you can restore in case something goes wrong.
Well, ****, I just restored my computer and no longer have the backups. I guess I can't use restore... Is there any way I can flash an older version on, like on Android phones? Or am I just stuck waiting until a new update comes out?
ShensMobile said:
Well, ****, I just restored my computer and no longer have the backups. I guess I can't use restore... Is there any way I can flash an older version on, like on Android phones? Or am I just stuck waiting until a new update comes out?
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You can downgrade and then go through the whole update process again. See point 1 in this thread.
However, I suggest that before you do the downgrade, first you:
- sync all your files in the phone so you can restore later
- make a list of all the apps you have installed
- save all your important SMS, read here
- you read how to make a backup and make one (see point 0 in the noob thread)
Alternately, you can consider a custom ROM. See this post.