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Hack evo for free hotspot

Ok so I just got the evo and I'm I. Love I had a moment b4 this and the the pre and the moment was very disappointing but the evo defined did the trick for Mr any way I'm very new to this whole rooting and hacking so I don't kno to much info or where to go get the info I was wonder if there there was a way I could use the hotspot feature without paying 29.99 so if anyone has any info or can point me in the right direction that would be great thanks in advance
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You would need to root your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/Guides_&_Tutorials
Please read up on it before you actually do it. Read the stickies at the top of each forum.

I did this literally 5 minutes ago. I have all the recent updates, and used unrevoked.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
The whole process took less than 5 minutes.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Download that .apk, install and boom.

Thanks for the info fmedina2, im new to the evo and everything 2, but since the link is currently not working. If I root my phone is there a possibility my phone could break or not work properly?

Sprint really doesn't bust users for pulling down hotspot quantity data-activity without paying the $30/mo Mobile Hotspot fee ?

I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.

IFMISM said:
I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.
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If you root then apply Calkulin's usb tether fix, it will also make the native Hotspot app work. The fix disables authentification for both wired and wireless tethering.
Personally, I think that the way these phones hog data out of the box that it would be hard for sprint accuse you of unauthrized tethering unless you were doing something like using the phone as your primary internrt connection.

I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.

thekingofmean said:
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.

thekingofmean said:
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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sobis1dm said:
This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.

drmacinyasha said:
Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
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You're absolutely right. I'm rooted, and CAN tether for free, but I pay the $29.99 anyway because it's the right thing to do. If you are using it for a lot of data (your main connection), you should pay for it.

thekingofmean said:
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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if you do ghetto things like that, you'll live just that kind of life.
good luck with that...

sobis1dm said:
This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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Get ready for tiered data plans.
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Hahaha you should pay for it? Why because they tell you too? Hey simple man root your phone thru unrevoked(easy as hell) then use pdanet or caulkins method or flash a rom that has it already integrated.
Hey your paying an extra $10 for extra bandwith so use it. Why pay $40 more now to stream on your phone..hey AT&T is 15 a month for dsl a year...so it may be right but it ain't smart..... Also I believe unlimited bandwith is for aircards and not for wireless. There is a thread discussing that. At the end of the day too each his own....
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P.S. I don't abuse or really use tethering but I don't see the problem. I don't use 90% of the internet based stuff on my phone but I pay the $10 and don't complain...
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drmacinyasha said:
Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth[/url].
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david279 said:
Get ready for tiered data plans.
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The reason I came to Sprint is because they allow it, and every rep I've talked to knows this. What good is the ability to push unlimited data (which, please, most people here can burn 11GB in a day, let alone a month) if you're morally restricted to limiting yourself to the competition's tiers anyways? Sprint's angle against the Big Two has been unlimited data for a long time now, and they're not going to switch it. If they do, I can promise you that the reason is NOT some guy using PDANet and watching a lot of streaming football while he's at work.

My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
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Kcarpenter said:
My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
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You're right in that 2GB really is nothing nowadays. Sprint offers On Demand television, live sporting events, and devices with screens big enough to actually utilize these things; and when Netflix comes to Android, do they really think users will stay within 2-5GB?
Even without Netflix or tethering, Evo can burn through caps like noone's business on push alone. The phone was built and marketed as a multimedia powerhouse - stream HD, refresh your FriendStream every 15 minutes, push the news, get your email, upload huge photos from your 8MP cam, all within a few swipes.
It makes sense for Sprint to cap the non-premium data users, and just use that as an incentive to make $10/mo from that many more customers. But seriously, companies really should start focusing on making the network's capacities better - not limiting the consumer.

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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
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I second that!!

We aren't losing unlimited bandwidth. We pay extra for not having 4G in our areas aka a 'richer data experience'.
This is that richer data experience. Tether it up.

Streaming Netflix Thru My N1 Using WiFi Hotspot!!!

Last night, the internet at my house died for some reason while I was watching a show on netflix. I decided to see if I could stream what I was watching through my N1 via wireless hotspot. I was able to finish my movie on my laptop, and there wasn't a single interruption!! However, it sure does eat up the data plan. I just looked at my data usage, and I had used about 450 MB to stream the program and download a large file at the same time. While that is a lot of data, I love being able to stream via my N1!! I am almost tempted to cancel my home internet and just use t-mobile's data for my internet access, but I reckon that I would get throttled back after about 5 days into the billing cycle since I watch A LOT of things on Netflix.
Anyway, I love this phone. That is all

Dude watch out... Carrier apps that tell you usage are not that current... My buddy watched a couple streaming movies and went over 4 gigs! Just be careful... And yes mifi is awesome as well as our n1s!
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I've been streaming Netflix through my N1 for the past month almost everyday and haven't been throttle yet. what's the limit now 5gb?

resinous said:
I've been streaming Netflix through my N1 for the past month almost everyday and haven't been throttle yet. what's the limit now 5gb?
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Holy crap, dude, are you serious?? Maybe I SHOULD cancel my comcast internet! I don't know what the official cap is. Some people say 5, others have said 10 gb. Let us know if you do get throttled back.

ChongoDroid said:
Dude watch out... Carrier apps that tell you usage are not that current... My buddy watched a couple streaming movies and went over 4 gigs! Just be careful... And yes mifi is awesome as well as our n1s!
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I didn't use any app to get my data usage. I just looked on my account usage on t-mobile's website, so I am willing to bet it was pretty accurate

if i get throttled down to edge i'll report back
my friend tells me that it's 10gb MAX but after November tmobile is changing it to 5gb.

I'm on rogers so I dunno if they throttle
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resinous said:
I've been streaming Netflix through my N1 for the past month almost everyday and haven't been throttle yet. what's the limit now 5gb?
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BS!!!
As someone that has Netflix as their main TV source, I know that even a little TV watching (eg 2+ evenings per week) will easily result in 20-30GB of data!
If you watch every evening, as you claim, for 2-3 hours you might break 100GB.
No way a mobile carrier wouldn't throttle you.

Throttle Work Around
I hear theres a throttle work around :
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there is a way around that throttle that doesnt involve anything difficult or technical. heres how you do it... change your settings from to 2G only(edge), let it connect, then when you see data flowing connect back to 3G. this seems to work for a majority of the people that try, some unfortunate people cant do it. i used to keep a 2G/3G widget on my homescreen so that i can use when needed. now i just use the per widget from cyanogenmod since it has the option. ive been doing this since january without any problems
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ChongoDroid said:
I'm on rogers so I dunno if they throttle
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Rogers doesn't have unlimited data. Their best plan was 6GB/month. You'll pay every bytes over the 6GB threshold.

Yeah man... It blows... Got charged 11 bucks for under a mb
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I got throttled after heavy net/video/audio streaming (they send you a txt). Watch out.

Well, I think getting throttled back is much better to the alternative of getting charged for data usage.

I been using my N1 hotstop to get on xboxlive and play video games online, and it works just fine, no lag at all.

The limit is being changed November 3rd to include either a 200MB ($10/month) plan or Unlimited ($30/month for 5GB, throttled after 5GB) plan.
They're also going to begin charging for Tethering and Hotspot, it WILL NOT be free anymore....which is ****ing ridiculous. If we're paying for unlimited data, so long as we're not going over our 5GB/month limit, why the hell should we pay additional for tethering/hotspot?
*source*
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/car...ll-overhaul-their-data-plans-on-november-3rd/

[Q] Anyone personally been served a notice for Tethering or Excessive Bandwith Use?

I know we had a thread open, but no one definitively came forward to say they received the notification. I am wondering if anyone has personally been served a tethering notice for non iphone, android use, or for excessive bandwith usage on the unlimited plan which many of us have, or will have thanks to the Iphone2g loophole: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698 for more info.

I use my Atrix to tether almost daily. A co-worked also uses my connection. I use about 4-5 gig per billing cycle and never got anything from ATT. This usage started with my iPhone and Netflix. I can't wait until it is available on the Market. Until then I want to use about the same so there are no hiccups.

I have hit 10 gigs plus each month with my atrix and tethering. I use it for everything. Xbox live 2 computers and an ipad. Never been hit by ATT for tethering or excessive bandwith usage. I have also received 150 off my last two bills due to ATT not being able to provide HSUPA.
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moehagene said:
I have hit 10 gigs plus each month with my atrix and tethering. I use it for everything. Xbox live 2 computers and an ipad. Never been hit by ATT for tethering or excessive bandwith usage. I have also received 150 off my last two bills due to ATT not being able to provide HSUPA.
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Sweet!! How you get the reimbursement?

I use 4 gigs on my phone alone no tethering what so ever and AT&T hasn't shown any interest
thats just my 2 cents
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I use barnacle for tethering on my iPad and iTouch and netbooks at school. Nothing yet. I use up around 5 gigs a month, and nothing yet.
I'm not expecting to be caught, but if I do, sucks for me.
I too used to use my iPhones for netflix (still do on my ipad and netbooks), so these data rates are abnormal for me.

moehagene said:
I have hit 10 gigs plus each month with my atrix and tethering. I use it for everything. Xbox live 2 computers and an ipad. Never been hit by ATT for tethering or excessive bandwith usage. I have also received 150 off my last two bills due to ATT not being able to provide HSUPA.
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You use it for xbox live? How's the lag?
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I still have my unlimited data package from my Iphone 3g. ATT just grandfathered me in each time when I threw in my sim card in my new phones.

banes said:
I know we had a thread open, but no one definitively came forward to say they received the notification. I am wondering if anyone has personally been served a tethering notice for non iphone, android use, or for excessive bandwith usage on the unlimited plan which many of us have, or will have thanks to the Iphone2g loophole: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698 for more info.
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I reached 20GB from downloading Torrents, Streaming Netflix on my XBox, playing online computer games, PSN, and XBL. (One at a time).
That was last month and I haven't gotten a warning of any sort.....
When I play online it doesn't lag if I only have one thing connected at a time.

I used it for halo reach. It worked really well. Im sure it will be even better with hsupa. That was in raleigh nc getting around 1.5 down and 3.3 up.
Packetloss and upload we're undetected. NAT was moderate. Seemed like games took a little longer to load. Playing cyrsis 2 the lag was a little more noticable but still I can't complain. My wife tried playing nascar 2011 on xbl but was unable to get into a race. I did notice phone calls, text messages, and data traffic would kick me offline. But I can't complain it worked for me
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Interesting. I never thought about using my phone for online gaming. That's pretty cool. Didn't think it'd be fast enough.
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I am in the 4gb range at most with the occasional tether. I am so proud of you guys getting 20gb month, I would be too afraid to get caught plus there is so much free wifi around me.
For those of you running Xbox live, what speeds are you getting?(just curious)
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I used 50G plus this last cycle and haven't been hit with anything...use it for gaming and home internet...i also work for the company and have seen the news bout the letters but still don't know how they will track the data...its all up in the air and gwent been rolled out yet from what I know/seen. I'm scared cause love the teathering with phone for tablets and hate to see it go away.
JEEPERS CREEPERs MOTHA ****A

Here's something funny. My wifes iphone 3gs. Use to be mine. Jailbroken with mywi. She is on the 2gig plan. Used 886 mb so far with little tethering and she got a message saying she will be moved to a tethering plan if we continue to use tethering. As I have already stated
In previous post I use my atrixfor every. And im going to use it even more now with hsupa enabled. ATt can't do anything unless u let them.
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nacixem said:
I used 50G plus this last cycle
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WOW! hahahaha

I haven't gotten anything. I tether daily. I average 5-8gb per month.
50gb? No wonder att throttles us.
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God damn... I get two gigs on fido and I have to pay if I go over. Seriously screw you guys... Knock me down and call me susan thats a sweet deal.
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I'm with susan on this one... for real, 50?
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Personally when I bought unlimited data a few years ago I knew I would take advantage of it one day. Now is the time
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my previous phone was the t9193 (imported hd2) and i was on the $10 dumb phone plan. I would hit 9-12gb per month, and never had an issue, tethering nearly everyday.
Just got my atrix a few days ago, (used the iphone 2g trick to get the unlimited data plan. sucks going from 10 to 30, but meh) and im already at 3gb. Almost all tethering.

Question for Sprint Employees

I was looking at my account today, and realizing that between my wife and I we use VERY FEW minutes altogether.
The overwhelming majority, and I am talking about 90-95% of our calls are either off-peak or mobile to mobile.
What I am wondering is what is the best way for me to go about lowering this bill. We have 1500 minutes, plus all the unlimited stuff Sprint offers.
I want to keep the unlimited Data, but am not terribly concerned about anything else.
Ideas? Anything at all would be greatly appreciated aside from calling me names and questioning my humanity

I'm not a Sprint employee (soon to be one), but I have found that the 1500 minute plan is the cheapest plan that includes the mobile to mobile talk (I looked into this a few weeks back for myself) and found that there's not really any other options. There is no plan less than 1500 minutes that includes data and text.
http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/sho...Id=pt_shared_tab&flow=AAL&planFamilyType=null

Xiutehcuhtli said:
I was looking at my account today, and realizing that between my wife and I we use VERY FEW minutes altogether.
The overwhelming majority, and I am talking about 90-95% of our calls are either off-peak or mobile to mobile.
What I am wondering is what is the best way for me to go about lowering this bill. We have 1500 minutes, plus all the unlimited stuff Sprint offers.
I want to keep the unlimited Data, but am not terribly concerned about anything else.
Ideas? Anything at all would be greatly appreciated aside from calling me names and questioning my humanity
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If you want to keep data, text messages then you are on the best plan for you two. Trust me.

Yup, I'm with the other guys as well. I'm on the exact same plan for that reason, and we don't come close to using 1500 minutes, even though we don't have a landline.

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If you want to keep data, text messages then you are on the best plan for you two. Trust me.
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Where have been some poser created another account and claims to be you they even have your picture... ^_^
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iSaint said:
Where have been some poser created another account and claims to be you they even have your picture... ^_^
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LoL, and my ban keeps get higher while people like this get to make another account, and still use both, I'm sour
Edit::: on topic sorry, your on the best plan...
Help support ERA and Android4Autism...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/donatetome.php?u=331067

iSaint said:
Where have been some poser created another account and claims to be you they even have your picture... ^_^
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Lol, I know...these moderators are hold to get ahold of. It's like they are never around

Dang. Well, that's good I guess. Just makes me sad because saving money on a bill is like crack to me. After successfully negotiating new prices on anything I just collapse wherever I'm at and fall asleep.
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Xiutehcuhtli said:
Dang. Well, that's good I guess. Just makes me sad because saving money on a bill is like crack to me. After successfully negotiating new prices on anything I just collapse wherever I'm at and fall asleep.
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Me too.
Cd's or tapes?

Xiutehcuhtli said:
I was looking at my account today, and realizing that between my wife and I we use VERY FEW minutes altogether.
The overwhelming majority, and I am talking about 90-95% of our calls are either off-peak or mobile to mobile.
What I am wondering is what is the best way for me to go about lowering this bill. We have 1500 minutes, plus all the unlimited stuff Sprint offers.
I want to keep the unlimited Data, but am not terribly concerned about anything else.
Ideas? Anything at all would be greatly appreciated aside from calling me names and questioning my humanity
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I work for Sprint corporate and I hate to say it, but the $129.99 Shared Everything Data Plan 1500 Minute one is the lowest plan you may have if you have one or more smartphones or one of the 3 Samsung Instinct Series devices on your wireless account with us. If you don't already have an NVP discount on it, you may wish to stop by one of our retail stores to inquire on how you may qualify for one of these discounts.

wireless.praying.mantis said:
I work for Sprint corporate and I hate to say it, but the $129.99 Shared Everything Data Plan 1500 Minute one is the lowest plan you may have if you have one or more smartphones or one of the 3 Samsung Instinct Series devices on your wireless account with us. If you don't already have an NVP discount on it, you may wish to stop by one of our retail stores to inquire on how you may qualify for one of these discounts.
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From another Sprint employee, this is true. You'd be surprised how many ways you can get a discount. AAA membership, student id, credit unions... Pretty easy. Had a girl come in that worked for a local restaurant chain that got 15 % off. You never know.
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I have a 15% discount for my last work. $147 total for the 1500 shared. And some of you has seen in the usage part that now it shows 999.999 remaning instead unlimited?
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From another Sprint employee, this is true. You'd be surprised how many ways you can get a discount. AAA membership, student id, credit unions... Pretty easy. Had a girl come in that worked for a local restaurant chain that got 15 % off. You never know.
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Whosdaman helped me get my AAA membership discount, any other person I called at sprint were like no I have to work for AAA to get the discount.
I save 13 dollars every month,its not much but helps
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I got a 25% discount through work but it took 90 days to process.
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Ok...I have a question ... my roommate works for Citibank and I found out she gets 27% off with sprint....so here's what I wanna do..
I saw that there's a 700 minute family plan for 70 bucks a month....but its just basic phone service... then I saw that getting a "pro data pack" is just 30 dollars more....so I'm gonna try and ***** my way out of my contract...give her my epic to activate with her new account and I can get a e4gt....$70 family plan + 30$ pro data pack + $20 (2 4g phones) and still have all the data and messaging we need for around $120 after taxes.....
Does my plan sound good??? Or is there some hiccup I'm gonna run into??
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So, is there anyway to get an employee discount w/out having to agree to a two-year renewal?

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Ok...I have a question ... my roommate works for Citibank and I found out she gets 27% off with sprint....so here's what I wanna do..
I saw that there's a 700 minute family plan for 70 bucks a month....but its just basic phone service... then I saw that getting a "pro data pack" is just 30 dollars more....so I'm gonna try and ***** my way out of my contract...give her my epic to activate with her new account and I can get a e4gt....$70 family plan + 30$ pro data pack + $20 (2 4g phones) and still have all the data and messaging we need for around $120 after taxes.....
Does my plan sound good??? Or is there some hiccup I'm gonna run into??
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the 30 dollars for data is "per line" i believe. not the whole plan for 30 bucks.

I need to look into this..... its offered with family plans so I'm gonna cross my fingers and see if this works between classes Tuesday
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So, is there anyway to get an employee discount w/out having to agree to a two-year renewal?
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Yeah, you can get any corporate discount without having to sign a new contract. You should be able to do it through your employer (or where ever you get your discount from) and it will take effect without a new contract.
All else fails...call Sprint and have them work it out.

I've got a Citibank discount of 27% off, but it's only on the main line and my bill is still $178/month on 1500 minute shared. (I have 4 lines total.)

[How To] Save your unlimited data plan after tethering notice

I was using about 70-90 Gb data a month for the past few months, mostly because of tethering. I recieved the first warning, and then yesterday the final notice stating i WOULD be changed to 45$ 4Gb tethering plan next bill. Well i spent hours and hours calling back different times with different point. most being legality, and privacy issues. Nothing worked, UNTIL i got a very nice man who was describing tethering to me and how watching netflix on ur phone then attaching hdmi is still condisdered tethering. I told him i have CM7 and that it was a non-stock os, and that all i have been doing is watching netflix or hulu on my tv via the hdmi port and mirroring. he extended my cut off date to right after the conversation, so that as long as i did not tether after that (connect my phone to my tv, lamo!) i would no longer be switched. he gave me a third chance and i am very thankfull. if you do not get the response u want to hear, try, try again..generally with a different rep, but they HAVE HAVE HAVE to be in the tethering watch dept. i believe he said its called "EOS" dept. I also filled a complaint with the better business bureau, but im positive just a bluff would do the trick.
just remember, make sure you are speaking to the right department before you get all down and dirty into why you believe this is unjust, and use the TV excuse and dont ever tether again unless u wanna loose to AT&T
This ****s real, one you get your first notice, be smart, unlike me and stop effing tethering...unless u r on a tiered data plan....then tether away amigo

I have been using 40gb up to 70gb since i got my unlimited data back 2-3 months ago. Never gotten an notice. Been doing the same thing as you, plus using pdanet to use my computer and torrents.

Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!

CaelanT said:
Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!
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Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?

mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
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you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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I am happy when I see threads like this. People complain about AT&T having ****ty service, but it is out of their control when people are hogging 50-100 GB over a wireless connection. Wireless is shared bandwidth, unlike a wired connection, so the network performs worse for other users when somebody it using massive bandwidth.
Unlimited doesn't give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.

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Unlimited does give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.
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i'm assuming you meant DOESN'T give you the right...?
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People certainly have the right to complain about AT&Ts new practices but 40-90 gb is overkill. Its hard to sympathize with you guys. I got the notice and I've only used 5gb of data.
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mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
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Ya well 4G isn't 4G with them either. The point is that everybody else has to suffer by paying more, AND dealing with a more congested network.
Tethering was really meant for emergency purposes, or when the local coffee shop is closed and you need to be online browsing/checking email for a "short period of time"...
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Just saying..
ifalldownalot said:
you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
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Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..

jpinoy said:
Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
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That's the point people are making. I have unlimited also, but I don't abuse it by using my cell phone data plan as I do my high speed internet at home. Tethering isn't the issue, ludicrously high data usage is because it affects every user.

jpinoy said:
Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
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And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..
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ha. yeah you're right in that aspecto. i was just trying to point out the blatant lack of consumer responsibility.
i, too, have unlimited data. i stream music, netflix, google navigation.
and i don't hit 5gb a month. I don't even typically hit 2GB. it's the people who constantly abuse the unlimited data plan so that are causing AT&T to imposed stricter and stricter regulations on their customers. Granted, there's greed thrown in there as well. but until every single one of us customers isn't doing anything irresponsible, then collectively we look like ignorant customers. i'd understand if all customers used 5gb and AT&T was behaving as they are now, then I, too, would be pissed.
your car tops out at 140mph. you don't drive it that fast all the time out of courtesy to others on the road and you just knowing you shouldn't. you can. but you shouldn't.

ifalldownalot said:
..... you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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Sorry to burst your bubble about no data cap on home internet. I was issued a Notice that I exceeded my data usage cap with Cox Communications last month in San Diego (premier 25mbs/sec plan). I have 3 TVs all hooked up to either pandora, Netflix, Hulu +, or Playstation Network. (Normal computer web surfing as well).
But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
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ifalldownalot said:
you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
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kyevey said:
But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
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I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
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mac208x said:
Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
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Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB cap.
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mac208x said:
I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
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It's not a privacy issue when the data usage is provided by them. You expect them not to know how much data you use? Also, if you are referring to tethering, they don't have to do anything but look at the information you actually agree to providing them to determine packet usage. Without packet usage you can have no data, and TTL (Time To Live) is a timestamp embedded in all data. When you use their service you freely agree to them knowing this in order to provide said service, and thus give them the authority to see what you are doing regarding packet hops.

And I thought I was an ass just for using 6GB. OP, you're ruining it for all of us. But that's bull crap that AT&T considers mirroring and the like "tethering." Is it also considered tethering to use Google Music with your car?

CaelanT said:
Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB
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if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
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mac208x said:
if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
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Get better internet then.

I got the notice using my 5 GB a month tethering. To heck with AT&T! That being said, some of you guys are clearly abusing the system and deserve the consequences!
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