ive read, re-read, and read again how to go about updating the radio to the newest version to be able to flash 2.2 roms. although the instructions are clear, is there a second set, or clearer set available? i just want to make sure im 100% clear about what im doing before i do it. im not new to flashing roms (did it on my moto droid) just never did something that had the potential to brick my device.
secondly, how easy is it to handle all of this on a macbook? my pc doesnt recognize my phone when i plug it in, but my macbook does so i'd be doing this from that laptop.
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My 2 cents ... wait for the official OTA to come out and then wait a little more for unrEVOked to enable root.
If you are concerned with bricking then I certainly wouldn't go through all the pain, suffering and risk just to install a prerelease radio (which is fairly old, by the way) and then to install beta releases. These forums are now littered with people posting bugs (which no one will fix ... because its a beta/prerelease ROM) and posting workarounds ... but the BEST workaround is to just wait for the actual release instead of playing around here.
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My 2 cents ... wait for the official OTA to come out and then wait a little more for unrEVOked to enable root.
If you are concerned with bricking then I certainly wouldn't go through all the pain, suffering and risk just to install a prerelease radio (which is fairly old, by the way) and then to install beta releases. These forums are now littered with people posting bugs (which no one will fix ... because its a beta/prerelease ROM) and posting workarounds ... but the BEST workaround is to just wait for the actual release instead of playing around here.
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What is it that hasn't been fixed? The performance of my phone on 2.1 versus the performance on 2.2 is greatly noticed. Above and beyond that, the "official" 2.2 release has already been stated, by unrevoked directly, that it will be very difficult to root, due to new security measures put into place.
I mean, the walk-throughs that are available on what to do are about as straightforward as can be, there are not "clearer" directions than the step-by-steps you've already read. I was wary of it too, but honestly, once you perform the steps, you'll look back and think "damn, that was alot of fuss about nothing."
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That's why I said it was my 2 cents.
I stand by my belief ... we now have a forum which is devastated by posts of leaked beta OTA's, people posting bug reports on leaked beta OTA's, people posting solutions to bug reports on leaked beta OTA's, and then the king of them all ... people cooking custom roms based on leaked beta OTA's (which then, in turn creates posts on bugs on cooked roms based on leaked beta OTA's ...).
While this is all well and good, once the OTA comes out *IF IT IS ROOTABLE* what use will any of the beta roms be (or the posts they spawned). The answer is none. While that is ALSO well and good (since this is a dev site), we have a decent amount of people bricking because the steps involve upgrading the radio ... to a beta no less and THAT is where the risk/reward equation is out of whack on this whole exercise.
SO ... I am simply saying, in response to the OP, that the fairly complicated steps and the inherent risk in upgrading the (beta) radio to get the (beta) OTA; may be outweighed by the fact that an OTA will be around the corner and will probably be infinitely less risky for the payoff. The only way there is no payoff is if it can't be (ultimately) rooted.
Thanks for the post, and the answers. I had thought that staying on 2.1, ignoring the OTA 2.2, and wait for the rooted 2.2 to be released before installing it would make things easier. I guess I was wrong.
I installed the new roms without the ota. Camcorder is broken but everything else works.. no risk that way
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Does anybody have any clues why we haven't seen any new froyo firmwares so far? (we had a wave of jp1 to jp3 and then silence)
Is it because
a. Such new firmwares exist but are not leaked anymore (samsung detected the leak) or
b. Such new firmwares do not exist in the sense that they are still being developed and not even nightly builds exist? (which I doubt).
I would have expected Samsung to have given something to its beta testers to play with..
Just a thought..
There were a lot of tweets about your question.
Sadly, the correct answer is A.
Here is the latest:
http://twitter.com/SamsungFirmware/status/21474133152
It's probably more complicated (and I have a theory).
Firstly, the firmware's were probably leaked because Samsung got sick of the people who kept running around saying they were liars and were simply telling people what they wanted to hear. So, they possibly released JP# themselves. It's also possible a carrier requested them for internal testing with Froyo, and they were leaked by the carrier (after all, carriers also want to work on their own customisations, and leakers get an adrenaline rush).
Secondly, having hung around the Songbird project before, Songbird stopped releasing early betas because people are morons. People would post duplicates of known bugs dozens of times wasting resources, and would make ridiculous assumptions based on unfinished code.. It's probable that many people are returning their phones in part because they don't see evidence of change in leaked firmwares. Even now, despite saying they are still working on the GPS fixes, there are a few people running around screaming "it wont get fixed, because Samsung are only making minor changes in leaked firmware".
Then, it's also possible the tree is too broken at the moment to release to anyone, some of the programmers are on leave (it isn't impossible to believe they were working 24/7 up to the launch date of the phone), or they are working on GPS problems and such, which are so complex that they need to be merged in one shot.
Anyway, we can't know for sure, but its a good thing actually if Samsung don't release every single build they compile..
Does anyone know where to get the latest rom from the original KIN run? The one that still includes the option for exchange email accounts?
I've tried google, and usually my googlefu is strong but it seems not with this. the latest build seems to be v1 build 2814.0
Also, from what I can see it would work, I'd just have to turn off the cloud stuff using the hidden menu afterwords... or am I wrong?
Thanks
This is actually one of the main problems. If we could get our hands on an actual rom from one of the KINs we would be in pretty good shape, and would be more likely to make progress.
Have you found any rom for a kin? If you have please let us know.
No, although I was only looking for an older rom build.
I'm probably going to call Verizon to try and get them (badger them) to give me an older ROM, since the phones are basically worthless to me without the Exchange email client... Unfortunately, when I looked up the Kin specs, all the sites I checked listed that feature.
Right now I'm hoping that I can either get an older rom on the phone (somehow) or that the newly announced HP Veer comes out on Verizon (also unlikely, since its Tech specs page only lists gsm and not cdma, etc).
I'll see what I can do about getting a ROM first though.
Well, I tried Verizon, and then Sharp.
After the hours on the phone, it appears that:
a.) Verizon could give me an older ROM, if I could somehow get ahold of the right person... since they reason they gave me for not doing it is "As the original equipment manufacturer, Sharp wouldn't let us do that."
b.) Sharp immediately says they have nothing to do with the phone after making it, and only Verizon can help me out.
So with that being a dead end, I can only see 2 options:
1.) Get the info from nvidia that lets us create roms for their tegra stuff (kin one is tegra as well, I believe) and then dump the current rom using their tools and modify it. I don't really think this will be possible, since I'm not an OEM, but I find it more likely than #2.
2.) Get ROM builds and tools from Microsoft. Given how... microsoft... Microsoft is, I really doubt this will be possible.
So, next week I will try #1 (calling them, if possible), followed by #2... but it really looks like its up to the people here to figure out how to dump the phone's current ROM. Given that it has a usb port (and people have gotten some access to the system), I believe its possible one way or another.
Seeing that our current attempts to do something good with the phone had no success yet, i must ask.
Are any news on this topic? I guess we can even just take the "tools" part or drivers, we can skip the rom things .
Maybe Conflipper can help us? It appears he was in the news digging through the original Kin, finding a possible foundation for an instant messenger.
www(dot)phonearena(dot)com/news/Instant-messaging-client-coming-to-the-Microsoft-KIN-handsets_id11919
(sorry add periods between - can't post outside links yet)
Maybe he knows something that might kick start the hacking process?
*** I'm not a regular - I'm sorry I missed Conflipper's retirement ... ***
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Are any news on this topic? I guess we can even just take the "tools" part or drivers, we can skip the rom things .
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Sorry, been busy and only news I have on this front is depressing, so I didn't get around to updating quickly.
Can't get anything out of anyone, basically. nvidia wasn't helpful, microsoft wasn't helpful, verizon wasn't helpful, sharp wasn't helpful.
With Verizon, Microsoft, Sharp, it was more like a giant circle... each company would tell me that they couldn't help me, but the next company could, etc.
Calling nvidia just told me to fill out the developer application, but that didn't go anywhere.
It makes me sad because these phones would be awesome if we could actually customize and update them... although I guess there will eventually be replacements running android or something.
HP Veer (webOs) is nice, but it looks like it will be an ATT device, so...
I have a hd2/hd7 & decided to get a Samsung focus. I just read of pocketnow.com that Microsoft is saying all the people that did nodo un official will be stuck not able to update passed nodo. My question is can I unlock my focus & wait for the official at&t update without worrying about messing my phone up for updates?
it worked fine for me.
@Freddy2Fred what do you mean? My concern is if I unlock my focus when I get it & also install the re-unlock so when I update to nodo will it effect my future updates?
This is what the article says on pocketnow......
"Monday the ChevronWP7.Updater brought the ability to update Windows Phones to the latest build for all those who lost their patience in waiting for the update notification.
A lot has happened since then: the blog post of Chris Walsh no longer has a valid link to the ChevronWP7.Updater -- as in it was pulled! You might have a déjà-vu as the ChevronWP7 unlocker used to jailbreak smartphones was also pulled as the team was in talks with Redmond.
Apparently, Microsoft warns users related to the usage of the ChevronWP7.Updater as it allegedly will put an end to the smartphone's ability in receiving future updates. According to Redmond, re-flashing the device with an original stock ROM would be the only solution to revert from the situation created.
Since Windows Phone 7 stock ROMs aren't available officially the way we got used to them being on manufacturer's websites back in the days of Windows Mobile, you can either stick with NoDO forever or send it back to the factory? What do you think about such an alleged stance?"
Relax... The report doesn't say for sure. It states Microsoft hasn't tested the Chevron Updater and warns its a possibility. HTC phones that used the Chevron Updater reported receiving additional updates almost immediately through Zune for HTC firmware. Regardless, I'm sure the coders like Chevron team and XDA members will provide updates for our current hardware long after Microsoft and the Carriers stopped in order for us to buy new hardware...
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I have a hd2/hd7 & decided to get a Samsung focus. I just read of pocketnow.com that Microsoft is saying all the people that did nodo un official will be stuck not able to update passed nodo. My question is can I unlock my focus & wait for the official at&t update without worrying about messing my phone up for updates?
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There's an AT&T update? I haven't seen one thing from them and at this point I'd be surprised if I ever do so I wouldn't be too worried.
Relax
If you read the article you will see that "might" is used three times in the second paragraph of the quote and "possible" used in the third paragraph. As it was being published, many users who had updated through the updater were receiving Zune update notices and re-updating with no problems.
Thanks for the answers everyone. The only thing I want to do is unlock it, apply the un-relock so I can sideload when needed & have my custom ringtone/sms. I will still wait for the official update still because of this article so I don't have to update then re-update in a months time.
"Now that the ChevronWP7 Updater tool is out, letting you force NoDo onto the Windows Phone 7 handset of your choice, there's nothing else we're still waiting around for, right? Well, not quite. While this shortcut may get you copy-and-paste, there are still non-NoDo related updates coming down the pipeline. Chris Walsh, ChevronWP7 team member and creator of that update tool, has tweeted word that there's a Samsung Focus-specific update in the works, including some bug fixes.
Walsh implies that they'll be several bugs targeted, but the only one he singles out deals with Bluetooth support. We've seen reports of users running into garbled sound and volume swings with devices connected to the Focus, so this may be the fix Walsh mentions."
With this update supposed to land "really really soon", it's likely that AT&T could push it out at the same time it gets around to releasing NoDo for its users who have decided to wait for an official channel, almost certainly later this month. If you have a Focus and have been considering the universal update hack, you may want to hold off, as you're just going to have to revert it in order to install this bugfix update.
You know what this shows? It shows that if AT&T weren't sitting on their hands keeping silent then people wouldn't get so antsy to get the update. If they came out and said "we're testing it and you'll receive it within <blah-blah> amount of time," which wasn't the case, then people wouldn't have had to resort to finding ways of getting the update. As it stands, there may never be a day this year or any year that we'll see an update from AT&T.
There may be bug fixes being made by MS, but will AT&T release it? Not over their dead, greedy hands. They'd rather you buy a new phone than run the risk of having their support people actually do their jobs.
I really hope this stuff gets organized soon to where we get straight updates from Microsoft for each phone itself. Do yall think the focus will be the only one that will have expandable memory? That seems to been a worse idea lol I'm going to keep my focus with the memory it comes with. I really want to stick with wp7 but I hope its not a slap in the face lol
Revert????
djc said:
Thanks for the answers everyone. The only thing I want to do is unlock it, apply the un-relock so I can sideload when needed & have my custom ringtone/sms. I will still wait for the official update still because of this article so I don't have to update then re-update in a months time.
"Now that the ChevronWP7 Updater tool is out, letting you force NoDo onto the Windows Phone 7 handset of your choice, there's nothing else we're still waiting around for, right? Well, not quite. While this shortcut may get you copy-and-paste, there are still non-NoDo related updates coming down the pipeline. Chris Walsh, ChevronWP7 team member and creator of that update tool, has tweeted word that there's a Samsung Focus-specific update in the works, including some bug fixes.
Walsh implies that they'll be several bugs targeted, but the only one he singles out deals with Bluetooth support. We've seen reports of users running into garbled sound and volume swings with devices connected to the Focus, so this may be the fix Walsh mentions."
With this update supposed to land "really really soon", it's likely that AT&T could push it out at the same time it gets around to releasing NoDo for its users who have decided to wait for an official channel, almost certainly later this month. If you have a Focus and have been considering the universal update hack, you may want to hold off, as you're just going to have to revert it in order to install this bugfix update.
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There is no evidence anywhere that you will have to revert anything. Reading other threads and blogs, users in other countries are getting their full updates, including firmware fixes, after using the Chevron Updater to install the update. The new update installs just fine over the hacked update. Others are reporting getting just a firmware update. We really need to see how this plays out but no one knows what will happen and people who are receiving updates after using the hack are reporting positive results. It's amazing that they get the official update and can install it even though their phone is reporting 7390.
Hello guys, how are you doing?
I just wanted to share with you my own opinion over how Samsung deals with updates to a Galaxy Note 10.1.
Actually, many users have reported software bugs in Galaxy Note 10.1 and Samsung confirmed many like the bug of clipboard. But the bad part is Samsung ignorance of bug fixing. It is good that we will receive 4.1.2 update with premium suite preinstalled, but it is bad that we did not receive a bug fixing package!
It has been several months since the launch of the Note 10.1 that many owners of the product started to get frustrated of the bugs. I cannot copy an article and save it as note in S Note app or share it in Facebook!
Besides, Samsung released JB 4.1.1 update to some regions, stopped then started releasing 4.1.2 in the time users still have the buggy 4.0.4 for many months in several countries, if not most! Even though 4.1.1 has stability issues, Samsung shall fix current bugs of 4.0.4 before caring to release a major 4.1.2, as this needs a quite long time by Samsung for a frustrating bug to remain!
Software is as important as hardware. I do not care for receiving a new major update with hundreds of new features, as we will receive it soon or later! But for me, a stable software with only two features is far far better than a buggy one with hundreds of cool features that I am unable to use!
Samsung used to release improvement packages and push them to their software update server for their products, but it is really strange why this is not the case for Note 10.1!
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You write that you are still on N8000XXLGA.
Sorry man, but it is your fault if you chose not to update by flashing the newest firmware.
Thanks to Samsung, Samfirmware and XDA, you have this option.
Other big companies, for example Acer, LG, will not even give you this.
So why do you not update?
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Hello guys, how are you doing?
I just wanted to share with you my own opinion over how Samsung deals with updates to a Galaxy Note 10.1.
Actually, many users have reported software bugs in Galaxy Note 10.1 and Samsung confirmed many like the bug of clipboard. But the bad part is Samsung ignorance of bug fixing. It is good that we will receive 4.1.2 update with premium suite preinstalled, but it is bad that we did not receive a bug fixing package!
It has been several months since the launch of the Note 10.1 that many owners of the product started to get frustrated of the bugs. I cannot copy an article and save it as note in S Note app or share it in Facebook!
Besides, Samsung released JB 4.1.1 update to some regions, stopped then started releasing 4.1.2 in the time users still have the buggy 4.0.4 for many months in several countries, if not most! Even though 4.1.1 has stability issues, Samsung shall fix current bugs of 4.0.4 before caring to release a major 4.1.2, as this needs a quite long time by Samsung for a frustrating bug to remain!
Software is as important as hardware. I do not care for receiving a new major update with hundreds of new features, as we will receive it soon or later! But for me, a stable software with only two features is far far better than a buggy one with hundreds of cool features that I am unable to use!
Samsung used to release improvement packages and push them to their software update server for their products, but it is really strange why this is not the case for Note 10.1!
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
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Agreed, I had to resort to manually flashing the German JB update to "fix" the PDF import problem on my Canadian N8010. I feel sorry for the average customer that bought the Note but doesn't know how (or even think) to flash a firmware.
This is why Samsung will remain a second-rate manufacturer of mobile devices: ineffective software QA and silly update rollout schedules.
Samsung is known for slow firmware updates, mostly due to the most customization of android in the world. Second-rate manufacturer? Not sure about that my friend. You are smart enough to Google Samsung.
This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Likewise i fail to see why XDA Developers has so many users wanting Samsung update path posting .
First job i do is remove Kies and OTA .
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This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Haha... so true... hehe... I like your humor...
The note isn't my first Android tablet, but it is the best that I've owned to date. My first Android tablet was an Archos 101. In addition to poor quality control that led to dead USB ports and speakers on multiple units while under warranty, the company's constant push of half-backed updates drove me and others away from that brand. You need to test code changes to make sure one "fix" doesn't break something else. Archos engineers didn't test updates thoroughly and rushed out updates that created additional issues. I quit updating that tablet. Thank goodness Samsung is more diligent. No OS is perfect and some of the things we might be unhappy with really are deliberate design features that Google incorporated into JB (or, in your case ICS). I would also suggest that you update to JB, you'll gain valuable features with the s-pen. At this point in time, I am happy with stock JB. I will probably root it soon (I wanted to use it on stock JB for a while before rooting). Eventually, I may flash one of the custom ROMs developed by the talented developers on this forum. The great thing about the popularity of Samsung products is that the popularity generates more developer interest, a big win for adventurous owners willing to root and flash.
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This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Having to do all that is, to me, what is required from buying a second or third-rate product. I wouldn't buy a car, for example, and be happy to expect that I need to change the spark plugs or some nonsense when I bring it home.
I mess around with R/C cars and I have in the past bought crappy cars because I enjoy tinkering and making them better, but I don't want or expect to do that with a mass market product lol.
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Having to do all that is, to me, what is required from buying a second or third-rate product. I wouldn't buy a car, for example, and be happy to expect that I need to change the spark plugs or some nonsense when I bring it home.
I mess around with R/C cars and I have in the past bought crappy cars because I enjoy tinkering and making them better, but I don't want or expect to do that with a mass market product lol.
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Nice analogy er, maybe not...... Thing is, no one is forcing you to update/upgrade/tinker. An update message pops up from time to time on the device and you click ok and it installs. That is as simple as it gets. That's NOT what we are talking about here though. We are talking about folks getting their flossy in a twizzie because a newer version of the OS is available and it hasn't been pushed to their device yet.
I have never seen anything written anywhere on the terms and conditions of any device I have bought that states I am entitled to get any upgrade to OR should expect to be updated to the latest software. In fact, iirc it says that on occasion an update may, yes MAY become available for the device and to either follow the onscreen instructions or visit (insert website here) for instructions on how to update.
Now to get back to the point, peeps EXPECT TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE, but they don't want to follow the instructions to do it. These instructions are usually made as simple as 1-2-3 so that even the technologically challenged can follow them. Turns out they ain't simple enough for some though and then the moaning and bleating begins, followed by the blaming. My device is stuffed, Samsung is rubbish, this cheese toastie is mouldy etc, but you never hear anyone saying, aargh fecked it up but it was my fault, I was born with two left brains or life is like a box of chocolates lieutenant Dan!
Sorry for such a long post. But I hope it helps clear things a tad
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Nice analogy er, maybe not...... Thing is, no one is forcing you to update/upgrade/tinker. An update message pops up from time to time on the device and you click ok and it installs. That is as simple as it gets. That's NOT what we are talking about here though. We are talking about folks getting their flossy in a twizzie because a newer version of the OS is available and it hasn't been pushed to their device yet.
I have never seen anything written anywhere on the terms and conditions of any device I have bought that states I am entitled to get any upgrade to OR should expect to be updated to the latest software. In fact, iirc it says that on occasion an update may, yes MAY become available for the device and to either follow the onscreen instructions or visit (insert website here) for instructions on how to update.
Now to get back to the point, peeps EXPECT TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE, but they don't want to follow the instructions to do it. These instructions are usually made as simple as 1-2-3 so that even the technologically challenged can follow them. Turns out they ain't simple enough for some though and then the moaning and bleating begins, followed by the blaming. My device is stuffed, Samsung is rubbish, this cheese toastie is mouldy etc, but you never hear anyone saying, aargh fecked it up but it was my fault, I was born with two left brains or life is like a box of chocolates lieutenant Dan!
Sorry for such a long post. But I hope it helps clear things a tad
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This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Your advices are sick my friend. For me, I did flash many firmwares of other regions onto my devices. But in the same time, good may be overwhelmed by bad things. These 1-2-3 steps were sometimes helpful and other times disasterous! For example, I have flashed many firmwares before on my Galaxy S i9003, Galaxy S II i9100, and my latest Galaxy S III.
For unknown reason, my Galaxy S III got bricked and went into a boot loop. It was not a noticed hardware failure neither it was a corrupt Odin package, but for some reason, a hidden hardware failure has become obvious following the flash. Samsung has reported that the motherboard was completely damaged and that unofficial firmware flashing of different CSCs was the cause. It could be also a manufacturing error. Whatever it is, I was lucky that Samsung did not void my warranty as it was rooted at that time with the flash counter > 0.
Besides, I have more than five Samsung Galaxy devices in the house, and they look to me as their software geek!! Whenever an update is released, I cannot say always to them yes, and let me flash things to you!!!!
Besides, why am I supposed to flash the German one? For the learning hub that does not work in my country? Or for Music and Video hubs that are also forbidden in my Country?! And why does Samsung have all these software variability? Why does not they make a united software with custom configurations based on country; like Apple?! Apple used to release the update worldwide with blocking un-allowed features based on country chosen!
I love to update using OTA; AS SIMPLE AS THAT, apart from all the BLA BLA BLA you have said!!!
no one is forcing you to upgrade, after all it's your tablet and you can do whatever you want, i am still on ICS and plan to stay that way for a while because i feel personally it's stable for me and works, i don't really care about new features i will hardly use, best thing is to root and then you can decide if you want to upgrade your tablet at a later date or not, the option is still there with odin.
i too also prefer uk firmware because some features that are on the uk firmware won't specifically be on the german firmware, different regions different features.
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Besides, why am I supposed to flash the German one? For the learning hub that does not work in my country? Or for Music and Video hubs that are also forbidden in my Country?! And why does Samsung have all these software variability? Why does not they make a united software with custom configurations based on country; like Apple?! Apple used to release the update worldwide with blocking un-allowed features based on country chosen!
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i too also prefer uk firmware because some features that are on the uk firmware won't specifically be on the german firmware, different regions different features.
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Hehehe The biggest joke of all is that the UK version is INCLUDED into the German version. You just need to change csc and you have the UK firmware, not a firmware LIKE the uk firmware but THE UK firmware.
Some people just prefer to complain instead of moving a finger themselves.
Just flashed premium bugs 4.1.2... not bad so far! Well woth the upgrade from ics unless you use the gallery, as that isn't fixed!
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I love to update using OTA; AS SIMPLE AS THAT, apart from all the BLA BLA BLA you have said!!!
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Then stop being a complainawhinger then and just wait for Samsung to deliver your update to you OTA. While you're waiting for it I'll continue to try and help people wanting to update to the latest version, with my sick, but helpful advice, :good:
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Then stop being a complainawhinger then and just wait for Samsung to deliver your update to you OTA. While you're waiting for it I'll continue to try and help people wanting to update to the latest version, with my sick, but helpful advice, :good:
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haha we need more people like you Riki1kenobi... some fun but helpful post... :laugh:
people should not get easily offended over some jokes the man was just trying to help... and as JJEgan said i also can't understand why so many xda members here are waiting for ota updates... i understand that xda is the place to look for all things android but really the 1st step you should do is not rely on kies and learn some odin and flashing..
but hell we're all in one community... there are always some whiners and whatever kind of people and that just adds to the fun of being here on xda..
Riki1kenobi said:
Nice analogy er, maybe not...... Thing is, no one is forcing you to update/upgrade/tinker. An update message pops up from time to time on the device and you click ok and it installs. That is as simple as it gets. That's NOT what we are talking about here though. We are talking about folks getting their flossy in a twizzie because a newer version of the OS is available and it hasn't been pushed to their device yet.
I have never seen anything written anywhere on the terms and conditions of any device I have bought that states I am entitled to get any upgrade to OR should expect to be updated to the latest software. In fact, iirc it says that on occasion an update may, yes MAY become available for the device and to either follow the onscreen instructions or visit (insert website here) for instructions on how to update.
Now to get back to the point, peeps EXPECT TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE, but they don't want to follow the instructions to do it. These instructions are usually made as simple as 1-2-3 so that even the technologically challenged can follow them. Turns out they ain't simple enough for some though and then the moaning and bleating begins, followed by the blaming. My device is stuffed, Samsung is rubbish, this cheese toastie is mouldy etc, but you never hear anyone saying, aargh fecked it up but it was my fault, I was born with two left brains or life is like a box of chocolates lieutenant Dan!
Sorry for such a long post. But I hope it helps clear things a tad
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I absolutely, totally agree with you. People see something new and they just WANT to update, because we are consumer whores.
However, I needed to update to fix the notorious PDF import problem in S-Note (as noted in first post in this thread). Basically, if I wanted to import PDFs from school into S-Note, S-Note would crash. This only happens to specific versions of the N8010 firmware (Canada being one of them).
I don't come looking for fights etc. as a lot of people do, I just speak (sometimes shout!) the truth.
Different regions /countries have different legal requirements which I suspect is one of the big delays for some regions. If you want everything done for you (OTA) , be patient and stup reading forums lokking for the latest updateor you will never be happy.
Of course you could also encourage your government to remove some of the restrictions, but for that I think you will be waiting much longer! I for one am amazed the updates get out as quickly as they do, re-evaluating every rom in every country for legal issues has to be a very expensive nightmare. Samsung is a big international company, ignoring regional laws is not really an option.
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I have lost my hope that New Zealand will be able to get JB Update. So now after reading many threads for months I am plunging into this forum to know how I can update my machine.
My tablet
Model Number
GT-N8000
Baseband version
N8000XXALI3
Android version
4.0.4
1. Please suggest me which firmware is going to be suitable for my tablet
2. If tomorrow NZ firmware is released and I be able to flash it manually will it be back to normal for OTA upgrades ?
Thanks
l. Put German Jellybean
2. Yes
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