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Help! Lag in Tab!

Hi Guys,
Been reading this forum for quite some time and got the Tab just 12 days back. Now the things is, the Tab is fast overall but I noticed some LAG / performance hit as soon as I switch to a LIVE WALLPAPER. In the home screen, it's all good. But as soon as I pop open the app drawer / menu, I can instantly feel a drop in performance.
Was wondering, a) what might the reason be considering i've seen 600 mhz phones able to do the animations flawlessly b) If there is a fix for this issue?
Also, what is the recommended advice for charging the Tab? I mean, should I charge it as soon as it beeps or wait for about 3-5 % battery? Also, is it ok to keep it connected even after full charge? (because I charge it at night and unplug it when i wake up)
Thanks & Cheers!

For the lag i guess you could try the custom ROM from Development forum. As for charging, I typically charge every 2 days (few phone calls, Exchange sync, browsing, fb, Pandora and ocasionally movies). I would unplug it when it's full (even the power cord). Save the planet and your pocket

I've noticed the lag as well, and honestly can't stand it compared to my HTC Incredible which is flawless. The Samsung notification bar is especially laggy to me. However, I believe that installing a new ROM should fix it. Honestly I think the lag is coming from all the junk that Samsung installs on there. Personally I have a VZW tab and haven't had many options for other Roms (until lately), but overclocking it to 1.2 did help a bit. If you have a GSM tab you have tons of ROM options, so give them a try.

Two days I'm lucky to get a day fro
A full charge tips please .....o. Battery life increase
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The lag thing is no big deal. So you have to wait a second. You should have seen what we put up with when computers were primative.

I'm on Roto's JMI custom Rom and can honestly say I don't ever notice any lag once the tab has booted up fully.

Thanks for all the replies guys! XDA never fails to disappoint
Could you please recommend me a custom rom which would a) address the lag issue b) is fast overall c) The battery life is one of the better ones?
I own a GSM Asian Tab with the following:
Baseband Version : P1000DDJJ1
Kernel Version : 2.6.32.9
Build number : FROYO.DDJK3
Now, I have rooted the tab using z4root and am using apps which require SU privileges but I am a NOOB nonetheless when it comes to modding or flashing a custom rom. I know, reading up on XDA is on my to do list but any crucial advises before i take the leap?

@quattr0
2 days! that's amazing! Literally, how much time does the screen remain on? I mean is it intermittent on like heavy usage? Out with the tips sir
@steveo11284
I am pretty sure you're right. Especially the Gallery by default sucks up the battery life even if I don't use it. (Using JustPictures, way better). You might want to check out an app called SystemApp Remover. Allows you to uninstall stock apps, not just the regular ones make sure you take the backup!
@kharmafish
Try out Juice Defender with Ultimate Juice add on. I gained atleast a few hours
@rangercaptain
The fact that there are ways of doing away with the lag keeps me curious mate I mean, isn't getting the max out of your device what everybody wants?
@mrgrey
What are your views on Modaco vs Roto roms?

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@mrgrey
What are your views on Modaco vs Roto roms?
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I have tried both and have had far fewer problems with Roto's roms. Although the quadrant score was almost double under Modaco's rom, in practice Roto's feels nippier - which reinforces what I've read elsewhere on XDA about quadrant score being no true guide to performance. Hope this helps

mrgrey1701 said:
I have tried both and have had far fewer problems with Roto's roms. Although the quadrant score was almost double under Modaco's rom, in practice Roto's feels nippier - which reinforces what I've read elsewhere on XDA about quadrant score being no true guide to performance. Hope this helps
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Righto! I was almost sure of going for Modaco. Could you point me in the right direction as to how should i go about the Roto roms? I mean a lucid and detailed guide on how to get it on to the tab?
Thanks & Cheers!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895827

Have you tried different launchers? I think Launcher Pro is pretty quick. It replaces the default samsung launcher.

So i finally upgraded to Roto JMI v2 Way better than my stock rom (DDJK3) read blazing fast
@rangercaptain
Tried out a few. Liked ADW Launcher
Cheers!

I would also recommend 2 apps:
automatic task killer is a great app that automatically closes apps that are left running in the background and you exclude those you want to leave running.
Juice defender is great for extending battery life by automatically turning things off for you like cellular data when you are connexted to wifi.
Sent from Galaxy Tab

w4rmk said:
I would also recommend 2 apps:
automatic task killer is a great app that automatically closes apps that are left running in the background and you exclude those you want to leave running.
Juice defender is great for extending battery life by automatically turning things off for you like cellular data when you are connexted to wifi.
Sent from Galaxy Tab
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While I was an ardent fan of both the software's you mentioned mate, on roto jmi v2 I excluded every task killer or battery enhancing app and to my surprise found it to be blazing fast n better battery backup by default. Sometimes makes me wonder if we're giving android its due credit for being awesome as it is
Cheers!
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So it's been a while

But I see a lot of work has been done to the ROMS on the Mytouch. Should be getting my replacement Tuesday. After using the phone, which I like a lot, I am ready to customize the phone.
1. Has the rooting been simplified as in the HD2 process?
2. My main goals for the phone are to get better battery life, be able to take off some pre-installed apps and maybe get better widgets
3. Not in the gingerbread software, tried the Nexus S , didn't like the interface or the widget style

Rooting isn't as easy as Hd2... but still very simple. Lots of guides in the stickies.
Install titanium backup and delete any extra crap you don't want from any Rom you try. Works great for me.
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the best battery life i have seen so far is with the ultimate droid rom. got 18 hours with no bump charge. thats with wifi and gps on the whole time with moderate to heavy use.
runs nice and smooth and very stable. its been updated since i last used it but should still be pretty nice.
http://www.udrom.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1221-mytouch-4g-ud-320/

Kernel Reviews

I'm a noob here, but I'm a quick learner.
A month ago I rooted my AMOLED DInc. Initially I trimmed a bunch of bloat in an effort to extend my battery life a bit. It worked a bit, so I moved on to trying new ROMs. My first was CM 7.0.3. I quickly came to discover that I greatly prefer Sense.
My next step was to try a new kernel. I was disappointed by the lack of information regarding the strengths and weaknesses of kernels, so I have decided to take it upon myself to discover and share the information.
So here's my setup: I have an HTC Droid Incredible that I purchased directly from Verizon just a few days after it was introduced, so I have the AMOLED screen. I also have a 1750 mAh Seidio battery that I've been using since the beginning. If I don't use the phone much I can get more than 24 hours out of it. Light to moderate use takes that time down to 12 to 16 hours, while moderate to heavy use takes that time down further to 8 to 12 hours.
My typical daily usage pattern is as follows: 45 to 60 minutes streaming 128k MP3s over wi-fi, 60 minutes of news reading (Engadget app and Pulse reader) via EV-DO, K9 mail checking one email account every 15 minutes, 10 to 50 text messages daily, virtually no voice usage, using the Facebook app for up to 5 minutes every hour, updating the clock/weather widget once an hour, casual gaming for up to 45 minutes, and brightness at 20% most of the time but sometimes 50% or 100% depending on if I go outside. I get one or two bars of signal at work eight hours a day and two or three bars at home the rest of the time.
And thus, I set out on my journey to improve battery life...
I quickly discovered that I should stay away from AOSP kernels because I'm sticking with my rooted stock Sense. And I need only two point multi-touch since if I'm gaming it's nothing more that casual games or Angry Birds, but I have to have pinch-to-zoom. I searched for kernel suggestions and settled on three seemingly common and popular choices: HeyitsLou #9, incredikernel, and Ziggy471. After settling on trying these kernels, I devised a strategy to compare them using similar methodology.
While it may not be a perfect set-up this is how I am choosing to compare: I use ROM Manager to wipe the cache, the dalvik cache, and battery statistics. Then I apply the kernel and completely charge the phone. I use the phone just a little bit more than usual to take the battery down to 10% charge or less and then charge it fully. After that, I use the phone like normal but pay attention to how it's working. I use the kernel for a minimum of 48 hours and see how it goes.
My first choice in kernels was HeyitsLou #9. I was amazed at how well this kernel manages idle time. My stock phone usually loses about 10% idling overnight. With Lou #9 that number was down to 5 or 6%. Nice. #9 also seems to do a decent job of throttling the processor when engaging in simple tasks. I was able to get a bit more than 24 hours of moderate to heavy use under this kernel. My biggest disappointment, though, was how unresponsive to my touch the screen became. I initially thought I might have damaged my phone. Once I got used to it, it wasn't so bad. But the kernel definitely made me not want to use the phone much because it was so unresponsive and does such a great job at idling. I'm sure Lou took a lot of time on this kernel, but it clearly is not for me. Your mileage may vary.
Right now I'm trying incredikernel, version 2.6.32.27. I'll update this thread once my review is complete. After that, I will be trying Ziggy471 Droid Incredible (Sense) 4 Nov. If there are any other kernels you might like me to try, please make suggestions here. Just please remember my stated goal of extending battery life under rooted stock Sense.
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That stock image is more likely killing more of your phone. Have you considered trying the modified Sense-based ROMs? These generally would more likely help you find better battery life over the extremely limited kernel selection for Sense-Based ROMs. I personally prefer SR4/desensitized.
Also, why wouldn't you want to try one of Ziggy's newer kernels? He is the only active(and not so much now) Sense-based kernel dev. His last release was from Apil 10th. Have you read up on the differences between schedulers used in said kernels(BFS vs CFS) or voltage management(SVS or HAVS)?
Since you're rooted and using the stock, have you tried SetCPU to adjust CPU settings?

If I try a Sense-based ROM, SkyRaider 4 is definitely the one I would go with (I already downloaded it). My only issue is that since I have my phone set up the way I want it, with certain apps and a particular layout, I don't want to lose that. I suppose Titanium Backup could help with that, huh?
And my only real dissatisfaction with CM7 was that it was too difficult to get my apps back. Would Titanium Backup help with that? I also downloaded the Google apps pack for CM7 but don't know what to do with it. I guess I just didn't try hard enough to put it all together.
As far as SetCpu goes, I'd rather try a kernel that does it for me than root around tweaking like that. Maybe that means I'm lazy...
I'll look around for other, newer kernels too.
Thanks.
p.s. so far I like this incredikernel. Just as responsive as stock but a bit more careful with power management.
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I have been using CM7 and Chad's kernels for a while now. It takes a little time to get everything arranged the way you want them but it is well worth it. My phone easily goes for 24+ hours without needing a charge. I am a relatively light user but the combination of CM7 and Chad's kernels has much improved my battery life.

Increikernel seems to be better than stock at just about everything. True, it's not quite as good at managing idle power usage as HeyitsLou #9, but incredikernel is much more responsive for me. The battery life gain was minimal, but still noticeable. I liked this kernel enough I backed up the ROM so that if anything weird happens it is what I will be reverting to.
Now I'm on to Ziggy471, version 24 Nov. While it may not be the newest one, this is the newest one I could find for my phone.
I'm starting to research how to use Titanium Backup, since the only thing holding me back from trying ROMs is my unwillingness to lose the way my phone is set up. If I could get all my apps and the Android Market and Amazon Appstore on CM7, I would be willing to give it another try...

The Ziggy kernel seems to me about as good as stock. It has excellent responsiveness, but the battery life for me was not quite good enough.
I went back with Incredikernel. Now I'm researching how to use Titanium Backup so I can move on to trying SkyRaider 4.
Right now the biggest issue stopping me from trying CM7 is not knowing how to flash Google apps back onto the phone. I've read that all I have to do is install the zip from my SD card using Clockworkmod Recovery, but do so without wiping anything. Is this correct?
And does SkyRaider 4 come with the Android Market installed or would I have to do something similar?
Thanks

So, I love Titanium Backup (totally worth getting the paid version in my book). You can certainly back up and restore the apps with it (though you won't be able to run Sense apps on AOSP), but restoring app data across different ROMs is generally ill-advised. So you'll lose settings and game progress and the like. Which, frankly, was kind of a good thing for me--the fact that I was trying different ROMs meant I stopped spending so much time playing games on my phone. TB has actually also resulted in my keeping a cleaner phone--since I can back things up and restore them if I need them, I can freeze or uninstall them.
I liked SR4, but I have to say, after spending time on CM7, about the only thing I miss from Sense is the dialer. It does take a bit of time to get things set up just so, but I agree that it's worth it. In terms of getting google apps on the phone, I personally just used ROM Manager to install CM7 and added the Google Apps package, but some people have trouble with ROM Manager. The short answer is that when you wipe and flash CM7 in recovery, then yes, you just also flash the Google Apps zip file, like you would flash anything else, and you should be set.
If/when you do check out CM7 again? The newest versions of Incredikernel are very nice. Chad is in the process of beta testing a new release, but like the 4/19, it's only for AOSP ROMs.
In any case, kudos for the systematic testing. I'll probably keep an eye on this thread.

liteon163 said:
If I try a Sense-based ROM, SkyRaider 4 is definitely the one I would go with (I already downloaded it). My only issue is that since I have my phone set up the way I want it, with certain apps and a particular layout, I don't want to lose that. I suppose Titanium Backup could help with that, huh?
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No, TB only backs up your apps, you will need to setup your homescreens again. Some aftermarket launchers, like LauncherPro, have the option to save and restore your homescreens but it cannot do widgets, which make it generally useless in my case.

hey im sorta a newb as well and have a question. i have cm7 and chad's latest kernal beta 11. what cpu settings (max/low)/other settings do you reccomend to get great battery life??
thx a bunch!

Oh, I don't mind having to set up my shortcuts and such. I just don't want to have to download all of my apps again, especially the paid apps I got for free from the Amazon Appstore.
It sounds like TB should be able to help with that. I'm trying to be very careful with how I proceed so I can give each ROM I try a decent chance for success. And I'm starting to realize that the only Sense app I can't do without is the clock/weather widget. There are other similar apps available for free, so I just need to reassure myself that it's OK to try new ROMs (especially since it's so easy to revert to my current setup).
All I really need to do is poke around some more and talk myself into just doing it. And the encouragement here really helps. Thanks guys.
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I'd recommend doing a restore of apps only, no app or system data. Do a backup before in case you run into any issues. I could be wrong but I thought even restoring apps via TiBU might be a little dicey when going from sense to aosp (especially froyo to gingerbread).
As for the HTC flip clock I felt the same way when I went to aosp and I'd recommend fancy widget pro. There's an HTC skin you can download that looks IDENTICAL to the actual HTC clock.
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Does anyone have good feedback on using a custom kernel for any of the new GB Sense roms? I think most of these come with their own roms, but I'd like to hear about any other suggestions.

This morning I took the leap back into CM7 again. The ROM installed with no issues. The Google apps pack installed with no issues. I was feeling good about trying it again... then I tried restoring apps (only) using Titanium Backup.
Something clearly wasn't working correctly, since it took 20+ minutes to restore only three out of 76 apps.
I powered down and then installed SkyRaider 4. It went quite smoothly. I was able to restore 77 apps in about 45 minutes. It worked great. But then I started poking around in the phone. Most of the crap I removed from my rooted stock Sense ROM was back on the phone. Aaargh!
I restored my backup from earlier this morning (right before I started) and I'm going to be giving this ROM business a break for awhile. I'll see what happens around here once the official Gingerbread OTA update from HTC hits.
It seems that the root of my problem (pun intended) is that I'm simply not patient enough when setting up my phone. And I'm a bit lazy in that I don't want to have to re-download all my apps from the Android Market if TB doesn't work for me.
So until I promise myself to give a new ROM a fair chance, I'll just stick with my rooted 2.2 stock Sense ROM with incredikernel.
I'm open to suggestions on how to simplify this whole process though, guys.
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p.s. what's this business about radios, and which ones are best?

I found some other kernels I'd like to try out: KiNgxKernel and Order. I downloaded Order and will try it in a few days but I can't find anywhere to get KiNgxKernels. ANd can anyone help me find a hydrakernel?
Thanks

i understand you say you prefer sense, but i really encourage you to try MIUI. i have tried them ALL and this has by far been the best. better than CM7 in my opinion. using chad's latest kernel, battery life is more than excellent. the level of customization is as good as or better than CM7. i mean, you can always revert back, but if you give it a few days, you more than likely will be thanking me. you can find the download in the "development" section...sorry, i'm too tired to post the link. but go for it!

I've taken a look at a lot of ROMs over the last month. My issue with MIUI is that it looks too much like an iOS port. Reading a review of MIUI over at Android Central reinforced this impression. If I wanted an iPhone, I would have gotten one.
Living with Sense for the last year, I am used to it and how it works. I don't want to switch ROMs and have to download my apps again. I know Titanium Backup works for this, but it sure sucked when trying to switch to CM7. It worked great for switching to SkyRaider 4, but that ROM brought back a lot of the bloat I got rid of in the first place. When I really think about it, though, I don't use any Sense features -- no widgets, no apps, nothing but the clock/weather widget (an alternative to which I can easily find in the Android Market). But I'm thinking switching to a new ROM and having to spend a few days getting everything set up again just isn't worth my time and effort, especially when my current setup works better now that I've rooted it.
I know I just sound lazy and/or complacent, but at this point I think I will just stick with trying new kernels.

miui is an ios look alike with its stock launcher. install some other launcher and youll have an awesome rom.

Unfortunately there isn't any active development as far as sense kernels go..

^there's obviously a reason for that..

ive been using chad's incredikernel and would just like to say it is pure awesome. My battery life is greatly improved, especially usage while idle. The general UI snappiness is also excellent. Highly recommended and the dev is very responsive.

Just rooted my Xperia Play...What now? What's next?

I just bought a new Xperia Play this past week. After enjoying it for a couple days, I decided, lets try the root.
I used gingerbreak and while most feedback suggested it would be about 5 minutes...I nervously watched the clock while each second and minute clicked by and I think I estimated it took about 8 min before the phone turned itself off by itself to reset (as the instructions suggested).
I'm guessing/hoping my phone rooted as it reset and I can seemingly access the system files with ROOT EXPLORER. I Scared me for a moment 'cause I felt it took a lil too long to load back up (thought it was bricked). But it still works.
I got SUPERUSER installed with gingerbreak, but I didn't see anything useful with superuser. I then found superuser elite which seemed to have a couple extra features which were pretty useful.
I found ROOT EXPLORER and tried that out.
I heard some people say after they rooted, they deleted some apps and 'over clocked' their phone so it is much faster and easier on the battery. I only deleted the pre-installed ring-tones. I have my own which I'm more than happy to use. The phone has 300mb total internal memory (I have a 16gig micro SD in it right now). I freed up a lil over 100mb.
I guess my big question is, "what's next". Or "what am I missing?"
The only benefit I've found in rooting this phone is I freed up a few MB in deleting pre-installed ringtones (big deal).
. What apps should I install (and why?)
. how and/or can I over-clock the phone so it runs faster and is easier on the battery?
. I could prolly review some of the apps and find some I don't need and may delete...but are there any apps which are recommended to delete (and some which are a MUST NOT delete?
. I think I found the BOOT animation (sony ericsson boot animation). What file format are the boot animations? Is it easy to make a GIF or MP4 video file to make a custom boot animation?
THUS; What can I do to this phone now that it's rooted? What's next?
ALSO, I want to know if there's a feature on the phone where I can set the phone to turn itself OFF and turn itself ON by itself at a time I select. I like to use my phone as an alarm clock rather than a standard BEEP BEEP BEEP alarm clock. I'd like to set an alarm with a custom ringtone (much cooler to wake up to).
thank you for your time.

flash kernal and custom rom ....

Not fully sure how to do that...or what that does.

how long did it take to root with gingerbreak?
Cause it wont root mine :-(
Im running stock gb 2.3.3 but i wanna rrot it.
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Go back to 2. 3.2 then use gingerbreak to root then do a OTA update too 2. 3. 3 no problem
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How & where can I get 2.3.2 at?
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babycakes505 said:
How & where can I get 2.3.2 at?
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verizon plays won't root using gingerbreak (no matter what version your on 2.3.2, 2.3.3, ect.). For just root, so you can de-bloat and such check this link out; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859 .
Or if you want to flash roms and kernels, check this link out for the paid solution; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232050
Hope this helps.
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to root 2.3.2 use gingerbreak to root 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 use zergrush

You can overclock with SetXperia or SetCPU, I would only over clock to 1.2ghz though, 2ghz would reduce the life of your CPU by a lot.
Personally I would not use custom roms.

TheCraig said:
You can overclock with SetXperia or SetCPU, I would only over clock to 1.2ghz though, 2ghz would reduce the life of your CPU by a lot.
Personally I would not use custom roms.
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You still need to flash the custom kernel to overclock though and thats as risky as flashing a custom rom, although I do think the stock rom is the best since some custom roms can make you loose the ability to use the touch pads.

babycakes505 said:
how long did it take to root with gingerbreak?
Cause it wont root mine :-(
Im running stock gb 2.3.3 but i wanna rrot it.
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This. Were you on 2.3.3 nina.gardener?

Thanks for your feedback guys!
I've got a;
R800a
2.3.2
to answer the other question, it took about 8 minutes.
Everywhere I saw everyone said it should be about 5 min. I started it at x:39 I think (7:39pm or whatever). By X:45, I was like, 'ok...it's been 5 min' and I thought i'd give it a couple more min before pulling the plug. Then about 2 min later, the screen went blank. At first I thought the screen timer hit, but the phone was unresponsive...then the SONY ERICSSON logo appeared.
The full reset seemed to take twice as long (but that could have been me just very excited/anxious about the process).
My other questions didn't get answered
. can I make CUSTOM boots animations (and how?)
. found an app called SETCPU which apparently helps speed up the phone's performance...but I haven't seen any notable performance boost (or stronger battery endurance).
. AND...now that it's rooted, I'm supposed to launch some ROM of some kind? Or some KERNEL of some sort.
Anyone have any information on how this needs to be done and what benefits come from this process? What does the ROM/KERNEL do?

All you can do with setcpu is underclock it cause you have sony's stock ker,nal which won't allow you to overclock. You can back up and uninstall games to free space but you need to reinstall everything to update. To use custom roms and doomlords kernal to overclock you need to unlock your bootloader. To unlock it, you must pay someone (search the forum for members who do that) to unlock the bootloader remotely. Around $24 - 30. But only having root gives you access to all the stock system's files and power.
Kernal - sets hardware limit. (overclocking)
Rom - software running on phone (boot animation)
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Flash doomlord's kernel to OC your phone =) everything works fine with mine, I oc'ed to 1.4ghz on mine and everything seems more snappy
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aranium said:
To unlock it, you must pay someone (search the forum for members who do that) to unlock the bootloader remotely. Around $24 - 30. But only having root gives you access to all the stock system's files and power.
Kernal - sets hardware limit. (overclocking)
Rom - software running on phone (boot animation)
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Or he can unlock the bootloader on Sony Ericsson's site? If the phone is not sim locked that is.
For your information overclocking the phone is not easier on the battery, quite the opposite. If you overclock it the phone will run faster yes but the battery will drain faster.
In my opinion overclocking is not really needed on this phone. The biggest advantage with root is being able to delete bloatware and to just have access to the whole system to do whatever you want. More freedom.

dannejanne
(I'm not a "he")...thought my name gave that one away

nina.gardener said:
dannejanne
(I'm not a "he")...thought my name gave that one away
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lol yeah or your avatar 'girl gamer' or that you write in purple

nina.gardener said:
dannejanne
(I'm not a "he")...thought my name gave that one away
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Haha sorry. I didn't really look at either your name nor your avatar. And for the record my favorite color is pink so I didn't really reflect on the text color either =D

I just noticed your name nina gardener. A pspiso.com member? I liked the threads you had if your the one and same.
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You're probably the first female in this forum... Let us say that a gamer phone has a bit of skewed demographics.
For your questions, I would point to the thread of my signature which is marked in red. It's a super-compilation which I update regularly.

ATT S4 (i337) NC1 - should i root and upgrade to 4.4.4 ?

currently i'm on att build 4.4.2 for my s4.
is it worth flashing a custom from and going to 4.4.4 ?
i know there are a couple of different roms at 4.4.4, which one does everyone like for this particular phone ?

Not really.. If Battery life and Camera performance is a priority for you I suggest you stick to stock.. My advice would be to root your phone and delete all unwanted bloatware. If your fine with subpar camera quality and battery life flash CM11 or Pac-Man.

akash4357 said:
Not really.. If Battery life and Camera performance is a priority for you I suggest you stick to stock.. My advice would be to root your phone and delete all unwanted bloatware. If your fine with subpar camera quality and battery life flash CM11 or Pac-Man.
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the battery life for me now is just ok. i'll unplug my phone at 7am, and by 2pm be at 20%. i have a bunch of email accounts on the phone so i think that could be causing the problem. that and storage space for apps are my 2 biggest things.

Storage space will remain unaffected between custom rom and stock they do not re-partition the device storage. But you can delete almost 300mb of bloatware from stock rom if rooted. I have 3 email accounts on my phone.. plus I call a lot of people .. 2 hours of music.. I unplug my phone around 7am and by 8pm I'm left with almost 35% charge on an average.

Ive rooted woth towelroot and SU for granting super user access. If that'll work, what's the easiest way for me to remove the samsung crap ?
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egiblock said:
Ive rooted woth towelroot and SU for granting super user access. If that'll work, what's the easiest way for me to remove the samsung crap ?
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Root browser @ system/app
Or app deleter with root access

A lot of us like Titanium BackUp Pro
Nice UI and very good app manager--:good:

Just posting my experience. After going back and forth between stock and the JMSQ Google Edition, I agree the camera was always the reason I would flip flop back. Taking picutres was ok, but video performance was terrible.... BUT I recently purchased Camera FV5 and Cinema FV5 and the performance is about 90% back on par. Good enough for me to ditch TW for good.