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[Q] HD2 Android?

after waiting for a while to see if windows 7 would be released publicly for this phone, and after finish paying off the phone i have decided to just say "Screw you microsoft" and go with an android build, but i have NO idea where to start with this.
The basics of my knowledge of cell phones is that i have put cookies home tab editor, and a few extra things on my phone, i have backed up my phone a couple of times, and i even done the official t-mobile upgrade for my phone, i know a decent amount about computers in general, but haven't had the chance to play around with my phone and it's OS like i have with a computer, being that my phone is very important to me because of my work, and that i don't have a house phone, only my cell phone.
So, could someone at least direct me to all of the forums with the best downloads for the andriod OS, and extras that i will need to get android working on my HD2?
and am i able to run cookies home tab on my HD2 even if it has android OS?

her u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735
and u will need
hspl2 or 3
just try the search option and u will get all the information about it ..
if you are ,form gemany then just try this link
http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-hd2-android/100639-installationsanleitung-tutorial.html
if not
try search on hspl2 or 3

I'm from the USA, i have t-mobile, updateing to the android will still alow basic calling on t-mobile's edge, gprs, and 3-g networks right?
yea, i've been looking through that forum thread already, i can't find any leadway on what to do, i see about kernels and stuff, but i don't know what all i need to download in case to get the most "Stable" android system, i see there is a linux build, and i guess hastarin is another one?
Is Linux Stable now?

her u go ( hspl2 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
and ya everthing is working well try for exampel this builds ..
they work fine
[UPD][BUILD][27.10.10]Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 2.3 rEVOlution [kernel:hastarin R7.7]
[UPD][BUILD][07.11.10] MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.5 [kernel: MDJ S1]
and dont forget this hier is an step by step information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
hope that will help u

Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...

ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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Don't quote me on this, but from what I've heard HSPL2/3 indeed are not required, but if you somehow screw up your phone without them, you're basically ****ed. HSPL2/3 should always (well, most of the time) be able to revert you back to stock.

ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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You don't need to upgrade HSPL at all. What you must have (100% MUST!!) is a radio version 2.08 or later (2.x.50 versions, NOT 2.x.51 versions).
Until the recent release of the official 3.14 ROM there was no other way to upgrade the radio to the minimum required other than custom flashing, which requires a HSPL upgrade. (Not 100% sure that 3.14 was the first, but I believe it was).
Either way, it's the radio that's crucial to Android - not HSPL.
(I ain't no Android chef or dev - this is just gleaned from what I've read on this forum, so may not be 100% accurate, but it's never failed for me.)

ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...

ogizz said:
ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...
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Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.

johncmolyneux said:
Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.
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Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.

ogizz said:
Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.
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No worries mate - glad to help. Hope you get it running - Android's sweet

rather than start a new thread, i have a supplementary question.
It's hard to search for this question, so apologies if it's been covered.
Is it better to run a stripped down custom WM ROM to boot android? or will a stock WM ROM (with the correct radio etc.) run Android just as good?
Does it make a difference?
(I just got a stock HD2 with 3.14 ROM and 2.08.50... radio...)

[Q] Have HD2 running windows, Want Android Help

Ok.....First I will admit I am new at all of this, second , I am a girl. Not that, that is a big deal but you get my drift. I have spent the last 24 hrs trying to find a good version of android 2.2 to install on my HTC HD2. I have tried quite a few versions, only one has installed that was the FroyoSense. However, none of my status lights worked, personal ringtones didn't work, picture preview didn't work. I create themes for the market and wanted to run android on this phone to help me out with my themes.....can anyone point me in the right direction? Thank you so much in advance.......that is if anyone is up as late as I am.... : )
Mickey

Hi Mickey,
The best builds I've used are NexusHD2 1.8 (if you want completely stock Android) and MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 (if you like the HTC Sense look). You will need to flash your HD2 using ActiveSync with a new '.50' radio. They can be found here (2.15.50.14 is the one I'm using). Without the new radio you'll be unable to boot.
I'm currently running MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 and it's quick and stable with pretty good battery life. I experience trouble with 'robot voice' when calling on NexusHD2, however everything else works just fine. Once you get a bit more confident you can have a play with custom kernels and whatever else.
To install one of these builds follow the link and download the package, then extract everything. I take the MicroSD out of my phone and use a card reader plugged into my PC to format the MicroSD FAT32. Quick format works fine for me. Then I copy the files into a folder called 'Android' (do not use all capitals) in the root of the SD card. Then boot into Windows, use file explorer to find your 'Android' folder and run CLRCAD.exe (nothing will happen - that's fine). Then run HARET.exe, click 'yes' when told about an unknown publisher, and it will proceed to boot you into Android.
First boot may take up to 10 minutes, as the device creates a virtual 'phone memory' for your apps and sets up the kernel. Once it's booted and at the lock screen, leave it for fifteen minutes. After fifteen minutes, unlock and power off your phone completely. Rinse and repeat the booting process, and your Android should be working perfectly.
I'll keep an eye on your thread in case you have other questions. Make sure you flash that radio first, or you'll be in all kinds of trouble.
Good luck!
Justin

This is exactly what ive been looking for Juzz. can you elaborate on activesync and the radio more? installation, etc? and that froyo work with gen. y? If not, whats a good dual boot?

Truaim,
ActiveSync isn't actually called ActiveSync anymore, it's Windows Mobile Device Center on Vista and Windows 7.
When you connect your HD2 running Windows to your computer with the USB cable, you are asked (on the phone) what kind of mode you want to select. ActiveSync is first, then USB Mass Storage, Internet Gateway etc. ActiveSync is the mode where you can update new firmwares, install HardSPL, and (if you use them) sync Outlook calendars, mail and contacts.
I am assuming you have HardSPL installed, which you use to flash custom Windows ROMs? It's not necessary (strictly speaking) for Android, but makes flashing radios easier. Let me know if you need me to cover that more.
Android on the HD2 only works with radios that follow the '2.xx.50.xx' format. They MUST have that .50 or you'll run into trouble. Flashing a new radio is just like flashing a new ROM. You download the installer, extract and run CustomRUU.exe, which launches the update process. Your phone needs to be in ActiveSync mode for this to work.
If you follow my previous link to the radio thread, you'll find all the .50 radios at the top. I'd go with the 2.15.50.14 radio first. Download it, connect your phone, unzip and run CustomRUU. Then follow the prompts. Your phone will do a few odd things, reboot and be running the new radio. It doesn't change Windows in any way, shape or form. It just updates your radio. You won't see any changes, except in the 'About' page where it lists the radio version.
Hope this helps!
Justin

Also, I run the 1.66.405.2 Generic WWE HTC Windows 6.5 ROM. I don't use any kind of bootloader (I'd rather be sure CLRCAD was run myself). There are a couple of stripped-down Windows ROMs floating around, but I find battery life isn't affected a whole lot by running a regular Windows ROM.
Cheers.

Just in case the radio package you get doesn't have CustomRUU...

The most recent stock ROM (3.14) is reported by many to be a very good ROM for running Android with. I use it myself and have had 0 issues. (It comes with radio 2.15.50, which is great for Android.)
It also means that, for once, my phone is in a perfectly "legit" state and I could send it off for repair without worry.
And I'm sorry, but there are no "best builds" for Android. The ones that are regularly updated are all running very well, so it depends what you want from it. I'd recommend ignoring recommendations and trying a few different ones yourself, as that's the only way you'll find what you like.

I bought my HD2 used, so I wont be sending it in. in fact, if it were possible id remove windows entirely. where can i see if i already have that radio installed?

Truaim said:
I bought my HD2 used, so I wont be sending it in. in fact, if it were possible id remove windows entirely. where can i see if i already have that radio installed?
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Reboot your phone and look out for the info in the bottom left of the screen when you get the first white screen with HTC logo. The number next to R is the radio version you have.

My radio is currently 2.8.50.08... is this compatible with mdj sense 4.6 suggested above?

Should be fine mate. Give it a whirl.
Good luck!

my radio is 2.05.51
will this work or do i need to go back to 2.xx.50 ?

stramvaier said:
my radio is 2.05.51
will this work or do i need to go back to 2.xx.50 ?
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Please read up about subjects before asking questions in future.
It is stated all over the forums that you need at least 2.08.50 (don't use a .51 radio).

[Q] Need Advice/Knowledge on my new T-Mobile HD2

Hello everyone, first off let me start by congratulating the great team XDA-Developers for this awesome web page and the help they give to total NOOBS like me. Also I wanted to point out that if these questions or this thread are in the wrong place, please move it cause it's the firs time I ask for help.
Ok, so a little background, I'm not a complete noob on computers or cell phones, just on the HD2, I've had in the past a Nokia 6600, an HP 6515 running wm2003se, an iphone 3g and a 3gs, all of these were tweaked and hacked or jailbroken etc...
So now on the the questions, I just got myself a used T-Mobile HD2 cause I wanted to leave behind my iphone and have something with more power and customization options. Now I have this incredible phone in my hands and I have so many questions and plans for it, but I need Knowledge before I attempt to do anything and I can't seem to find the answers for my questions in any thread, so here goes !
1. should I update to the latest T-Mobile ROM from their web page ? Or should I at least download it to have it as a backup to flash back to stock ?
2. I think this device has already HSPL cause it had android on it before, how do I check the HSPL and should I use that or go for SSPL ?
3. As far as wm6.5 goes, I've been planning of flashing an Energy ROM, is that a good choice ?
4. Now, after having a cooked ROM on the device, I want to try android, but I want to be able to boot it from my SD card, I've been reading about Exceller's Android Loader, and according to what I've read i could have wm6.5 on my device and be able to dual boot different versions of android, an I gonna have issues with that ? are the android versions on the SD card gonna work properly ?
5. OK, so lets say I can have wm6.5 and 2 other versions of android on the SD card, how would the loaded apps get organized on the SD card ? can I choose when installing apps where they should be installed so I can keep the SD card organized ?
6. Whats the difference between NAND and RAM droid ? If I load Android through the SD card will it have less functionality than if I flash the device ?
7. Is using android from an SD card like emulating ? does it make the device slower, take up more ram, drain battery more ?
8. Does flashing a device with Android delete all traces of wm6.5 ? I ask this cause I want to try and know what is the fastest and more powerful OS i should have and keep on my device.
9. Does changing to android take away functionality from the HD2 remote (skip songs/pause/play/answer calls) ?
Well that's it for now, I have so many more questions but probably by now whoever is reading this has fallen asleep ! LOL
Thank you to anybody who has the patience to help me out.

Alternative to Magldr for WP7?

Hello every one of us
After test more roms of WP7, i have all days same problem
One time the SDCARDS runs and others not
So, i think the problem provides from MAGLDR to make the first initialisation and detection of sdcards
I view the new CLK for Android, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114053
My problem i'm not programmer and don't can create a EXE to run CLK with a WP7 rom.
Can any of you view that?
Thanks for all cooker's rom
And excuse me my english language

dAV84 said:
Hello every one of us
After test more roms of WP7, i have all days same problem
One time the SDCARDS runs and others not
So, i think the problem provides from MAGLDR to make the first initialisation and detection of sdcards
I view the new CLK for Android, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114053
My problem i'm not programmer and don't can create a EXE to run CLK with a WP7 rom.
Can any of you view that?
Thanks for all cooker's rom
And excuse me my english language
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sorry, do you mean that you think its MAGLDR that stops WP installing on some SD cards?

Yes, sometimes the MAGDLR detects the SD card or not, this may be why the Rom's do not have WP7 use

If someone is interested in writing a new/modified bootloader for WP7 one should do it in such a way that Zune believes the HD2 is actually truly a HD7. This would make it a lot easier for everyone to install updates like Mango and NoDo.
Perhaps more importantly, it also allows one to backup the phone's content with the updatewp.exe trick (making zune "install" an update to the phone so it makes a backup before that and killing the update process before it starts updating).

EvilWhiteDragon said:
If someone is interested in writing a new/modified bootloader for WP7 one should do it in such a way that Zune believes the HD2 is actually truly a HD7. This would make it a lot easier for everyone to install updates like Mango and NoDo.
Perhaps more importantly, it also allows one to backup the phone's content with the updatewp.exe trick (making zune "install" an update to the phone so it makes a backup before that and killing the update process before it starts updating).
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bad idea that,
if you make the HD2 look like an HD7 to allow updates you run the very real risk of MS updating a driver or two that may screw your device, the HD2 and 7 are very similar but they do contain hardware differences and thats why we have several issues. I dont think its anything to do with magldr, the random restarts and wifi issues are a symptom of SD card issues WITHIN windows,

EvilWhiteDragon said:
If someone is interested in writing a new/modified bootloader for WP7 one should do it in such a way that Zune believes the HD2 is actually truly a HD7. This would make it a lot easier for everyone to install updates like Mango and NoDo.
Perhaps more importantly, it also allows one to backup the phone's content with the updatewp.exe trick (making zune "install" an update to the phone so it makes a backup before that and killing the update process before it starts updating).
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Ok so this magic bootloader with turn all your hardware into HD7 hardware and magically wave a super duper wand and allow you to use M$ update to install software/drivers for the HD7 on your HD2?
Are you on LSD?
How do you expect to be to install official updates meant for the HD7 if your hardware is a HD2?
Custom roms are CHANGED so they work on your hardware, DFT didnt just bung the official HD7 rom on the phone say a magic word and have WP7 running on the HD2
Please go back to sleep.
PS. Oh btw, last time I checked Zune DOES see the HD2 as the HD7, aslong as you install the reg tweak or use a rom that has it already in.

i never say i want a super HD2 with WP7 uncid or MS fake super mango and free apss for always.
Simple a other bootloader with can use when a sdcard fait with magldr

dAV84 said:
i never say i want a super HD2 with WP7 uncid or MS fake super mango and free apss for always.
Simple a other bootloader with can use when a sdcard fait with magldr
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i get what you mean but i have several SD cards that are not compatible with WP7 and they all work with magldr, perhaps im wrong but i just dont think that is the issue, magldr IS a big problem with battery charging and it messes up the date and time too but i dont think ive seen anything that says the SD issues are to do with MAGLDR, there is an alternative bootloader addon for android, but WP isnt supported, it does however fix the battery charging though

dAV84 I think you just have a non-compatible sd card. I had a lot of issues with my 2GB SanDisk in WP7. It was running, but it was rebooting sometimes and wp7 didn't see sd card then.
Changing sd card helped.

Behind open this topic, i read all topic about SDCARDS problems with WP7.
The problem with bandwitch and type of class
So, i tested differents version of W7 Rom's.
With 5 differents SDCARDS
And change with magldr 1.12 and 1.13,
i have 3 card no visible in magldr one time and after it's run, but's bloqued in wp7
TO 2x2GB no name class 2, 8gb kistong class 6, scandisk, 16G class 4
SO,for 1 of no name, and kistong, not view in magldr (can't change partition in service mode) but's when i insert in a WP6.5 i have view
I use the SDFormater, and the easeus to change partition to FAT.
I'm understand the problem, perhaps provides from WP7, but's not total sure for me.

People say that the most common sd card's classes that work with wp7 are 2 and 4.
I don't know what class are mine cards, both are 2GB though. SanDisk was quite a lot faster (changing apps, settings, using ui in general), but wasn't fully compatible (reboots etc) and Kingston is working fine, but slower.
I used SDFormatter as well. You don't have to change anything with Easeus unless you aim at dual-boot with SD Android. Just use SDFormatter and go on with WP7 setup.

TheATHEiST said:
Ok so this magic bootloader with turn all your hardware into HD7 hardware and magically wave a super duper wand and allow you to use M$ update to install software/drivers for the HD7 on your HD2?
Are you on LSD?
How do you expect to be to install official updates meant for the HD7 if your hardware is a HD2?
Custom roms are CHANGED so they work on your hardware, DFT didnt just bung the official HD7 rom on the phone say a magic word and have WP7 running on the HD2
Please go back to sleep.
PS. Oh btw, last time I checked Zune DOES see the HD2 as the HD7, aslong as you install the reg tweak or use a rom that has it already in.
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I know they're changed in order to work, but afaik MSonly updates the new bits don't they? Because if they are it would work with things like the cert updates from april/early may.
Ofcourse if with an update the entire device is reflashed this wouldn't work. However it would still be likely that the zune backup system could work, which would help when trying new roms.
Sent from my Schubert using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

it wouldnt matter what kind of update MS did, if you were able to update via zune and device drivers changed it would screw the device.
who knows what might get changed, radio, SPL, drivers anything could, any one of those could mess things up, that could just mean a simple reflash but if the Radio/SPL was messed with then its possible it could give you a really bad day

That's why I go with reverse engineering the Zune. Its a thread that is started by me yet no one has yet to comment on. It would be nice if we can takeover something like it and make it exclusive to HD2 updating! If there was a way we can extract M$ updates and take a look what is in it and take out stuff that is not necessary, take out stuff that can be dangerous to our phone, put in updates that is for HD2, and then repackage it to Zune (Hacked or Spoofed) for end user updating. It will be effortless for end users but I bet it will be a challenge to the coders.

pharmeceutikle said:
That's why I go with reverse engineering the Zune. Its a thread that is started by me yet no one has yet to comment on. It would be nice if we can takeover something like it and make it exclusive to HD2 updating! If there was a way we can extract M$ updates and take a look what is in it and take out stuff that is not necessary, take out stuff that can be dangerous to our phone, put in updates that is for HD2, and then repackage it to Zune (Hacked or Spoofed) for end user updating. It will be effortless for end users but I bet it will be a challenge to the coders.
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Im not a software engineer but im guessing saying, let go with reverse engineering zune, is kinda like saying, yeah course, we'll just fly to Mars

[Q] Easy one stop Android?

Ive for an HD2 im going to give to my friends girlfriend to replace her current T-Mobile phone thats junk and has a cracked screen.
I have installed HSPL 2.08 to match the stock SPL, but now ive come to a stand still.
I only have a 4GB card right now (unless someone can tell me how to format one from a WP7 device, Windows wont recognize it).
Im getting confusing info about the US devices and radio's as well.
Isnt there a one step install for Android to SD card? Even the 'easy for noobs' directions has many confusing steps.

Unfortunately, no. The easiest way would be sd android run with haret from within windows mobile, but even that requires an updated radio.
Just put windows mobile back, update the radio (which is relatively easy if you read enough) and drop any sd build on your sd card and then click on "clrcad.exe." then "haret" from File Explorer on your phone.
That's the easiest.

Never took WinMo off but i did manage to get a 16 gig card to use. How do i tell what radio it has?

Go into settings > software information > radio.
That's it.
I recommend flashing 2.15.50 (if you don't already have one that is 2.08 or above)

2.15.50.14? Cause thats the one i've seen said 'use' and 'dont use'.

Ok, its got that radio on it. So i guess im good and can just find an image to put on the SD.

Just go into the SD android development, pick a ROM, download it and extract it into /Android/ on your sdcard.. then follow my first post.

Which Android version it is more suitable for the HTC HD2
I have an HTC HD2 running the original windows professional 6.5. and I m interested to install the Android OS in order to get
a faster an easy OS.
But after reading several posts and watching a lot of vieos on Youtube I feel lost which Android version it is more suitable to my smartphone
and if it is possible to get a little bit of more speed I woul be very happy.
As far as I understand i will require to burn or change my ROM first and then install the Android. But there are the Rafdroid version, the Ice Cream the Jelly Bean and so. Today I read a notice somewhere that a a guy have obtained 1.66 Ghz of speed at the HTC HD2 that it is amazing.
A little of speed would be great but the most important it is to have the Android because it is easy and may allow me to view videos ouside
youtube.
I will appreciate you advice and comments how to decide about the Android version.

Marvlesz said:
Just go into the SD android development, pick a ROM, download it and extract it into /Android/ on your sdcard.. then follow my first post.
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Well, i did, i found AmeriCanAndroid. But when i launch Haret it says it cant find the zImage which is not in the NativeSD folder, but in the kernal/boot folder. Also in following the guide for this on YT, when i copy it to the SD its only 123 megs, not 232 like in the video. So im lost as to whats going on.
Also, my ex-wife had an HD2 briefly that had Android on it that you could launch from a shortcut on the home screen. Any idea how to do that?

Ok, i got this resolved. Once i realized MAGLDR wipes WinMo off i found an EXCELLENT video on YT for dual booting WP7 and Android. Thanks to the guy who made it, very thorough and had the links to the required software in the comments.