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I just got my replacement atrix today, im trying to figure out whether I should update it to the 2.3.4 OTA or not. My old atrix I had unlocked on 1.83 and was running cherryblur. Is it easier to unlock on 1.83 or the new OTA or are both easy now?
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Basically, if want to be adventurous with the ROMS and crazy modifications, then root and unlock bootloader, or if you are fine with the official OTA update. Then just stick with those. I am sticking with OTA since I don't want to brick since I am using my ATRIX for college and job and need a reliable phone. I might root it though if I can figure it out.
My modding fun is with my Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. That's my xda fun.
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I was glad OTA keeps ALL of your settings and applications. I did it, only because Motorola says they will unlock the bootloader. When that happens I figure I'll finally root and go wild with ROMs, because my 1 year warranty may be close to expiring anyway.
For me, with no other changes but the OTA upgrade, my battery life BLOWS me away. I used to get down to 10-15% after 9 hours, casual internet and lots of mp3 playback.
Now I only get down to 45% doing the same exact stuff! Astonishing.
If you are waiting for unofficial unlock support from Motorola, do the OTA. you will be happy in the interim
Im already planning to unlock it and put roms on it, just wondering if its easy to unlock on 2.3.4 or if I should just keep it at 1.83. Cause froyo sucks and I wont have time to do anything on it til sunday.
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sunshine1982 said:
Im already planning to unlock it and put roms on it, just wondering if its easy to unlock on 2.3.4 or if I should just keep it at 1.83. Cause froyo sucks and I wont have time to do anything on it til sunday.
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According to this thread here:
http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/mo...official-2-3-4-build-4-5-91-can-i-unlock.html
you can still unlock but there is a small risk of bricking -- unlocking before flashing to 2.3.4 OTA is advised (or do what I did and click the first link on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261 , run the SBF via RSD Lite 5.31 & motorola's drivers (you can find them on their site in the Atrix section)), send the unlock command via fastboot, and follow the rooting instructions -- all of which are again on the same first link on that page.
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This allows you to flash an unlocked bootloader, GB 2.3.4 update, as well as root, all via one file. Remember that there are instructions to follow, it doesn't unlock or root for you, but provides all three as part of a flashable file.
Others feel free to chime in -- I'm only explaining what I did and worked for me. I understand that the general concensus is that SBF file carry a higher risk than other methods of flashing.
I have not been around these boards in a minute, and seeing these topics about upgrading bootloaders, one question is it required?
I did a search about it in XDA and just results in the walkthroughs for upgrading
MODS feel free to lock or remove or maybe if someone answers maybe sticky it
BrianDigital said:
I have not been around these boards in a minute, and seeing these topics about upgrading bootloaders, one question is it required?
I did a search about it in XDA and just results in the walkthroughs for upgrading
MODS feel free to lock or remove or maybe if someone answers maybe sticky it
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depends what rom and b/l you're on now -
whether you want to install custom roms
or you're happy on stock
whether you want custom recovery for backups etc
Acer Recovery Installer from the market will tell you your BL version
So will a500 Manager from Blackthund3rs site
Essentially if you have only had HC on your tab you are on the HC bootloader.
If you used Thor's rom then you are on the HC bootloader UNLESS you updated to the leaked ICS roms 1st....
If you updated to the leaked ICS rom then you have an ICS bootloader.
If you want to flash a new ICS rom then it still a good idea to install the patched bootloader and recovery package as this will leave root intact and install CWM...
Hope this helps a little...
I know i have the old bootloader, are devs dropping support for the the old bootloader.
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I know i have the old bootloader, are devs dropping support for the the old bootloader.
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That's pretty much what's happening with the move to ICS. There are some certain limitations and oddities when running Acer ICS on an HC Bootloader. For starters, the patched kernel. Not exactly pretty when you boot. Also, reports of "screen flicker" as well.
Sooner or later, everybody will be on the ICS bootloaders, stock or patched. Runs better that way.
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That's pretty much what's happening with the move to ICS. There are some certain limitations and oddities when running Acer ICS on an HC Bootloader. For starters, the patched kernel. Not exactly pretty when you boot. Also, reports of "screen flicker" as well.
Sooner or later, everybody will be on the ICS bootloaders, stock or patched. Runs better that way.
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Thank you, looks like i got a Sunday project
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However I'm still hesitant. Has anyone noticed a boost in battery or performance after removing the VZW crap ware? This phone seems to have the best stock ui experience next to the nexus phones, and I'm really not looking to ruin that. Any pointers on what is best practice?
I understand unlocking to bootloader, and have been there before with the droid eris and inc 2, but with a poly fuse I'm just not ready to break in yet.
I guess I just need some good convincing.
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I noticed that after I removed the moto service that it had less wake lock time. But I'm running Carbon now so I can't quite remember the amount of benefits.
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8on3s said:
However I'm still hesitant. Has anyone noticed a boost in battery or performance after removing the VZW crap ware? This phone seems to have the best stock ui experience next to the nexus phones, and I'm really not looking to ruin that. Any pointers on what is best practice?
I understand unlocking to bootloader, and have been there before with the droid eris and inc 2, but with a poly fuse I'm just not ready to break in yet.
I guess I just need some good convincing.
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not really sure how much battery life you are looking for, as the device gets 1 day+ stock, and still gets that rooted/debloated. performance does increase though when debloating.
one last benefit is that rooted folks are now on JB 4.2.2 (fully working too!) - not sure when that will be pushed by the carriers.
otherwise, the customization is the key.
I rooted my M long before I decided to put pacman rom on. I didn't really notice any difference in battery life. Biggest reason for me was so that I could use titanium backup to backup my apps. If you do decide to remove the bloat, make sure you do a nandroid backup for when the official upgrade comes out.
Nice, yeah just a little snappier... less bloat. That's all I'm looking for, stock this thing is great. The tool available in the forums, would that enable me to restore my firmware to stock w/o needing to be unlocked?
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8on3s said:
Nice, yeah just a little snappier... less bloat. That's all I'm looking for, stock this thing is great. The tool available in the forums, would that enable me to restore my firmware to stock w/o needing to be unlocked?
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there are some TWRP flashable ROMs that take you back to stock.
Rooting alone will not allow you to get to 4.2.2. That's a benefit of unlocking the bootloader.
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Rooting alone will not allow you to get to 4.2.2. That's a benefit of unlocking the bootloader.
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yeah not worried about the 4.2.2 just making sure the tool will root/allow me to revert to stock if need be, and not trip the fuse, that's only on the boot loader correct?
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8on3s said:
yeah not worried about the 4.2.2 just making sure the tool will root/allow me to revert to stock if need be, and not trip the fuse, that's only on the boot loader correct?
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just use safe strap so u dont have to unlock your bootloader and dont touch the stock slot, then u can just uninstall safe strap and un root when u want to return to stock.
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just use safe strap so u dont have to unlock your bootloader and dont touch the stock slot, then u can just uninstall safe strap and un root when u want to return to stock.
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yeah but you won't get any up to date ROMs using safe strap as its been all but abandoned now that the bootloader has been unlocked. I rooted and stayed stock for the longest (until the bootloader unlock exploit) and was perfectly happy. All I wanted was to use root apps anyway but now that the bootloader is unlocked I have a proper nand back up of the stock rom and can flash and try at will. the space requirements for safe strap killed the appeal of that for me, especially with the inability to move apps to sd.
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yeah but you won't get any up to date ROMs using safe strap as its been all but abandoned now that the bootloader has been unlocked. I rooted and stayed stock for the longest (until the bootloader unlock exploit) and was perfectly happy. All I wanted was to use root apps anyway but now that the bootloader is unlocked I have a proper nand back up of the stock rom and can flash and try at will. the space requirements for safe strap killed the appeal of that for me, especially with the inability to move apps to sd.
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oh i know this, but if you read the thread you would see he does not want to unlock his bootloader.
pbanj said:
oh i know this, but if you read the thread you would see he does not want to unlock his bootloader.
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Lol no problem, I'm sure as the year passes I will consider unlocking. This phone is such a solid upgrade from what I have had in the past, I'm not too concerned about it. The root was simple, and freezing the useless apps was good enough for my current needs. Thanks for the information though.
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8on3s said:
Lol no problem, I'm sure as the year passes I will consider unlocking. This phone is such a solid upgrade from what I have had in the past, I'm not too concerned about it. The root was simple, and freezing the useless apps was good enough for my current needs. Thanks for the information though.
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I used fast boot to patch the boot logo to get rid of the nag screen. There's a post in the Dev section that runs through the steps.
That way, most customer reps can't tell the difference if you have a warranty issue.
Of course, iirc, you can run an RSD flash to return to a locked bootloader, too, should you need to take care of a warranty issue, too.
If I'm wrong on that, feel free to correct me, everyone
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vrmcbeigh said:
I used fast boot to patch the boot logo to get rid of the nag screen. There's a post in the Dev section that runs through the steps.
That way, most customer reps can't tell the difference if you have a warranty issue.
Of course, iirc, you can run an RSD flash to return to a locked bootloader, too, should you need to take care of a warranty issue, too.
If I'm wrong on that, feel free to correct me, everyone
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I understood the unlocking was done by "breaking" a Polly fuse that cannot be re-written, perhaps one could trick the boot loader.
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8on3s said:
I understood the unlocking was done by "breaking" a Polly fuse that cannot be re-written, perhaps one could trick the boot loader.
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Oh ****. They're QFuses, so unlocking is permanent. You're right.
Anyway, RSD will rewrite the recovery partition back to stock, so only people who know of the fast boot screen can find out. If they even remember to check it.
That means that people who get my devices once they've been refurbished (my phones like to overheat, no matter what model) have the bootloader unlocked already. Sweet.
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I was finally about to root my RAZR M after owning the phone about a year. My primary reason for rooting would be to uninstall all of the system bloat ware that came with it.
I've tried a few different ways to root, but it keeps failing. There was a new update installed a couple days before I tried rooting and I suspect this is the reason it won't work. Is this the case?
Is there a workaround for rooting RAZR M with the current update? If there is simply no way to do it, I would at least like to know if there's a way to remove pre-installed apps without root. Please help!!
Thanks in advance for your response.
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What's your system version? I you're on the most recent update, there's no way to root yet.
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
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flow motive said:
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
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At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
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Leraeniesh said:
At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
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I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
dtraini7 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
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Grab the .zip from here and flash in recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I got a Razr M from a friend who had already updated to 98.30.1 and I'm stuck now with a locked BL and Unrooted ROM. No hope in sight? Then there's this ... http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...y-warranties-on-developer-devices-reinstated/
Maybe there is a silver lining in the horizon?
Really bums me out there's no root for the new update, I was waiting to root till I decided I was gonna keep this phone then the Sept update came and now I can't root. Very disappointed. Wonder if it'll ever get bl unlock?
Anyone considered this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541739 ?
Just got another email from Motorola to sign up for a preview of a new software release. Probably fixes issues that were discovered after the KK upgrade.
CAUTION FOR THOSE WITH LOCKED DEVICES: Considering you just got a new root method, I would steer clear from this if you want to keep root. I have a feeling Towelroot will not work after this since it only works for kernels dated before June 3, 2014. Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
It would be nice if this were a 4.4.3 update, but I don't know at this time. Since I'm unlocked, I'm going to go ahead and sign up for it and see what happens.
Just wanted to get the word out to anyone with locked bootloaders to probably stay away from this unless you don't care about root and the tethering hack.
The bad news about this means the "can I unroot my KitKat phone" won't go away once the OTA comes out.
Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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I guess I'll be late and you've found that after upgrading to KK and rooting it, you can unlock bootloader with Motopocalypse ^^. Also idk why wouldn't anyone want to unlock BL, considering the phone is on its end of life cycle and won't get anymore android updates (e.g 4.5+) it seems rather wise to unlock and have all the goodies now and in the future.
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Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
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I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
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Topsnake said:
I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
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Awesome. Thanks a bunch for that. I'll definitely want to try it out once I the new OTA comes in. Since I have an unlocked bootloader, I'm not too frightened to do the OTAs, but to know that we can get another tether mod if it does indeed break with the next OTA, that's a relief.
tether seems broken..
Topsnake said:
I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
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I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
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I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
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Uh. the tethering hack still works. Go here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...d-native-tether-exploit-build-183-46-t2872547