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[GUIDE] How to prepare for ICS upgrade for root users

Look at the following description and choose the right one.
(1) Flash back to stock rom and stock recovery via easy unroot.
(2) Re-root via nachoroot
(3) Install OTA rootkeeper.
(4) Wait for ICS. Call in sick everyday if you have to. Keep mashing the check for update button.

That seems like a lot of pain when the devs are certain to adopt the ICS Asus rom as base to their custom roms.
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Is there a reason for flashing back to stock and rerooting rather than just using OTA Rootkeeper?

st0nedpenguin said:
Is there a reason for flashing back to stock and rerooting rather than just using OTA Rootkeeper?
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Because if you rooted via nvflash then you won't be able to do an OTA update even if you have ota rootkeeper. Trust me, I've already tried it all.

Hi
I'm on revolver rom, I'm not root with nvflash but razorclaw ( sbkv2 )
I do make your tutorial or I can install OTA Rootkeeper on revolver rom ?
Thanks
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billouetaudrey said:
Hi
I'm on revolver rom, I'm not root with nvflash but razorclaw ( sbkv2 )
I do make your tutorial or I can install OTA Rootkeeper on revolver rom ?
Thanks
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I have an SBKv2 transformer and I followed this guide, which worked fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438433

josteink said:
I have an SBKv2 transformer and I followed this guide, which worked fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438433
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Thanks but I don't understand why return on Stock rom? Maybe developer update revolver rom to ICS ?
Sorry for my english...
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billouetaudrey said:
Thanks but I don't understand why return on Stock rom? Maybe developer update revolver rom to ICS ?
Sorry for my english...
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Well sure. That might be. But that will take time.
Some people want the ICS update the very second it is out. Reverting to stock allows them to get it the second it is out without waiting for ROM developers to update and retweak their ROMs for a new major Android-version, a process which most likely will take some time.
Besides. I like to know how the stock experience is before going for something different. If stock is good enough, I see no reason to rely on custom ROMs.

josteink said:
Well sure. That might be. But that will take time.
Some people want the ICS update the very second it is out. Reverting to stock allows them to get it the second it is out without waiting for ROM developers to update and retweak their ROMs for a new major Android-version, a process which most likely will take some time.
Besides. I like to know how the stock experience is before going for something different. If stock is good enough, I see no reason to rely on custom ROMs.
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It should take only an hour or two to push out a rooted build. Will probably actually get it before being the ota build.
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billouetaudrey said:
Thanks but I don't understand why return on Stock rom? Maybe developer update revolver rom to ICS ?
Sorry for my english...
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OTA update will not work if you're on a custom ROM or have CWM recovery.
Stock but rooted ROM is OK

baseballfanz said:
OTA update will not work if you're on a custom ROM or have CWM recovery.
Stock but rooted ROM is OK
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I've heard CWM shouldn't prevent an OTA update from going through. From someone in this forum. Referring personal experience.
That said, I agree about custom firmwares.
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josteink said:
I've heard CWM shouldn't prevent an OTA update from going through. From someone in this forum. Referring personal experience.
That said, I agree about custom firmwares.
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I'm confused as to why anyone would say that. OTA updates from asus are implimented through the stock recovery.

goodintentions said:
I'm confused as to why anyone would say that. OTA updates from asus are implimented through the stock recovery.
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They say the dled ota zip can be handled and installed fine through cwm. I don't know, just repeating what I've heard.
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josteink said:
They say the dled ota zip can be handled and installed fine through cwm. I don't know, just repeating what I've heard.
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The OTA update will not automatically install if CWM is installed like it is the case on a completely stock TF.
Therefore some people adjust the OTA update (remove recovery and add root) and publish this so you can install this with CWM. See developer forum.
The original OTA update also include recovery update (where CWM is installed) and remove root. You can use OTA rootkeeper to avoid loosing root.
Summary:
- root with stock rom and stock recovery will allow OTA update from Asus but you loose root; use OTA rootkeeper to avoid loosing root
- root with stock rom and CWM recovery will not allow OTA update from Asus; use adjusted OTA update and install with CWM (keeps root and CWM)
- custom rom, then no OTA update possible; just wait for update of developer custom rom

josteink said:
Well sure. That might be. But that will take time.
Some people want the ICS update the very second it is out. Reverting to stock allows them to get it the second it is out without waiting for ROM developers to update and retweak their ROMs for a new major Android-version, a process which most likely will take some time.
Besides. I like to know how the stock experience is before going for something different. If stock is good enough, I see no reason to rely on custom ROMs.
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Ok I undertand, so I'm not this people
I prefer wait I'm very patient
Thanks you
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billouetaudrey said:
Ok I undertand, so I'm not this people
I prefer wait I'm very patient
Thanks you
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Well, stock has gone a long way from back in May. Back then, I went with custom roms because they were more stable and smoother to work with. Recently, I flashed back to stock and have been using it daily. Could not tell the difference between stock and custom rom anymore. Asus, or google, has done a good job at stabilizing and improving the original stock rom.
When ICS comes out, I will at first use stock. Then I will try out custom ICS roms. I'll evaluate them on a regular day to day usage. I don't care much for all the tests that people do. I'm a realistic guy. I believe in reality.

josteink said:
Besides. I like to know how the stock experience is before going for something different. If stock is good enough, I see no reason to rely on custom ROMs.
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Sorry that just made me laugh. A stock rom being good enough would mean no need for custom roms and so far, not one single device has had one. Not even vanilla rom's from Google themselves.

why go to all this hassle,when its out the devs will release a stock rom that doesnt remove root, then with in about 24/48 hrs dev tweaked roms will appear
SENT FROM MY TRANSFORMER and its on KRAKD

Is there a reason for superuser being preinstalled in this repacked WW rom? Kind of defeats the purpose of "stock" doesnt it?

combat goofwing said:
why go to all this hassle,when its out the devs will release a stock rom that doesnt remove root, then with in about 24/48 hrs dev tweaked roms will appear
SENT FROM MY TRANSFORMER and its on KRAKD
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Is that all it'll take is a day or two for a CWM flashable Ice Cream Sammach rom to pop out?

[Q] Revert back to HC bootloader?

I took the plunge and upgraded my A500 to the ICS bootloader, and now I'm having constant SOD problems. Is there a way to revert back to the HC bootloader (which I never had problems with)? Thanks!

Found this in about 15 seconds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25743193
Try searching around......there are probably 15 threads on the forum asking the same question.
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riot1031 said:
I took the plunge and upgraded my A500 to the ICS bootloader, and now I'm having constant SOD problems. Is there a way to revert back to the HC bootloader (which I never had problems with)? Thanks!
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You are probably using the wrong kernel, make sure you flash a kernel for ICS bootloader users.
You can find it in my flex reaper thread , see my sig.
Using a ICS rom on HC bootloader is possible for now because we mod the ICS kernel to run on it.
Soon that support will stop as I think it is stupid and useless
Of you really want to go back to HC bootloader , see my sign , guide, there is also a option for flashing back k to HC bootloader.

[q] rooted HC to ICS - how?

OK, I rooted my A500 towards the end of last year since it didn't seem like Acer was going to keep up with the latest Android operating systems.
I checked in here recently and saw that ICS has been released for the A500. Joy.
So, I used CWM v5.0.0.0(thor2002ro rev1.3.4) to try and flash the rooted Acer OTA ICS. I figured I'd try the original ICS before I start flashing other people's ICS roms.
All went well until the reboot. It froze on the ACER screen and would go no farther. I figured that perhaps the cache/data/dalvik didn't clear the first time so I repeated those steps. format data user reset, clear caches, clear bat stats. Reflashed rom.
Reboot.
Stuck at ACER screen again.
I searched the forums and found that I need a different bootloader? There are a bunch of threads, but I can't seem to make sense of them.
Can someone please give me a step-by-step plan to get this thing from where I'm at to ICS?
I did get my tab working again by repeating whole process but installed HC 3.2.1 Flexstriker r9.6. It booted up into the rom just fine.
I guess this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 - is close to what I need but it's tough to follow with all the different options and colors/fonts...
Can anyone help me down the right path?
Thanks in advance.

You can flash one of Civato's old Flexreaper roms on a HC bootloader. Since it is an ICS rom you can just update the boatloader as mentioned in the thread you linked.
I would suggest flashing Flexreaper 9 or something, his newer roms require you already have the ICS BL on. After you update the BL then just upgrade to one of his newer roms. They work very well. I've personally had no problems at all with his roms.
but....
If you want the stock Acer ICS, you have to downgrade all the way back to the old 3.x unstable rom and let it update from there. It will take a few updates, but it should get you to ICS.

Sorry, but this is a development forum not questions and answer, xda is strict about keeping things organize, please read the rules and guidelines.
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starkiller86 said:
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If you want the stock Acer ICS, you have to downgrade all the way back to the old 3.x unstable rom and let it update from there. It will take a few updates, but it should get you to ICS.
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Any guide on this? I need it for warranty issues (charging stops after few minutes with power light flashing white / amber) Search is not working and there is no "going back to stock" thread in the dev section sticky roll-up thread.

The thought of going back down and then upgrading back up didn't appeal to me.. So, I bit the bullet and tried to make sense of the thread I mentioned... I managed to get through it and I now have the sandwich on my tablet.
What a pain in the.......
OK... ready for the jelly bean leaks now.
starkiller86 said:
You can flash one of Civato's old Flexreaper roms on a HC bootloader. Since it is an ICS rom you can just update the boatloader as mentioned in the thread you linked.
I would suggest flashing Flexreaper 9 or something, his newer roms require you already have the ICS BL on. After you update the BL then just upgrade to one of his newer roms. They work very well. I've personally had no problems at all with his roms.
but....
If you want the stock Acer ICS, you have to downgrade all the way back to the old 3.x unstable rom and let it update from there. It will take a few updates, but it should get you to ICS.
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I did read the rules/guidelines..
It's a question about development (or at least how to use some developed tools), so I put it here..
If it doesn't belong here, then perhaps a mod would be so kind as to move it..
At this point, the thread really could be deleted as the original query is handled.
However, tkolev has added a question.
lifeofcoding said:
Sorry, but this is a development forum not questions and answer, xda is strict about keeping things organize, please read the rules and guidelines.
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[Q] Does it Need to be root ?

hi everyone, i'm a501 user and decided to use Alexandra V ROM..
My question, do I need to root my a501 before install the ICS bootloader ? Now i'm using official HC 3.2.1 and never experienced in rooting.
If rooting is necessary, how to root official A501 HC 3.2.1? Maybe gingerbreak 1.2 ?
thanks before

gigacats said:
hi everyone, i'm a501 user and decided to use Alexandra V ROM..
My question, do I need to root my a501 before install the ICS bootloader ? Now i'm using official HC 3.2.1 and never experienced in rooting.
If rooting is necessary, how to root official A501 HC 3.2.1? Maybe gingerbreak 1.2 ?
thanks before
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Well, rooting is generally the first step. HOWEVER.... you will need to;
a. Flash the ICS patched bootloader
b. Flash a CWM or Public Recovery
c. Have the Alex V.zip already on your external SD Card, that way, it is ready to install after doing the above 2 steps.
Now the current Alex V you can run a simple root after install, so rooting now, is rather not necessary. Also, you might want to wait 3 or 4 days. We just got a new ICS update today, that if works well, I will change out the Rom version. Probably Sunday if all goes well. Will save you the time of re-installing the rom again.
The only reason you would want to root right now, would be to install a CWM and make a backup of your current system., In case you ever wanted to go back to HC. But note; HC roms do not run on ICS bootloaders and vice-versa. Also, The CWM's will be different for ICS. So it's sort of like once you commit to ICS, you go all the way, and never back to HC (you can, but who would want to).
Oh yeah, don't use Gingerbreak. It will probably bork things up. As of 3.2, rooting became a little difficult.
So in the meantime, while you wait, you can read this thread as it contains instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425
Note that the above procedures (manual or automatic) usually work about 90% of the time. Seeing you are currently on stock 3.2.1, I don't foresee an issue. Any questions, post them in the instructions thread.
MD

Ok MD, thanks for your explanation, so i don't need root my current ROM to install ICS boot loaded right?
Thanks a lot
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gigacats said:
Ok MD, thanks for your explanation, so i don't need root my current ROM to install ICS boot loaded right?
Thanks a lot
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You shouldn't. The bootloader program uses NVFlash, which is initialized before the OS starts. The only requirement I believe is USB Debugging must be turned on in the system settings, but that's really more of a precaution than anything. I've not used these programs, as I did it a long time ago the old fashioned way. AKA semi-bricked my tab..... :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Heck, I didn't even "have" an OS, and got the bootloader and CWM installed
Read the stuff. Understand what you're getting into.
And.... Get your current UID number and write it down somewhere safe. This is really your only protection if something goes bad. Usually it doesn't but you will also need it during the process.
When you get ready to do this (after I hopefully have a newer version in a few days), you can post in my thread for help. Got some good guys there with 501's that can lend some advice.
MD

Sory MD, I haven't got permission to post in your thread due to lack posting.. I have installed v8-thor. 1.7. 3_recovery.A500apx, now I still able to boot into my HC ROM. but now I couldn't find any cwm mod recovery.A500apx to install in my tab. How then?
Thank you very much
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[Q]-Coming up to ICS or JB from HC3.1

Hi folks. new Iconia 500 owner here. Mine is rooted and is currently on HC3.1 I'm going to guess it's the HC bootloader. Is there a way to check? If it is the HC bootloader, is this thread the best one to follow coming up to an ICS bootloader for use with ICS and JB ROMS? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 I saw the dual bootloader thread from Skril but wondered if that might be a little too much for somebody just wanting to run a normal ICS or JB setup.

I guess your good to go on jellybean if you update your bootloader , remember put the rom and gapps on PRIOR to updating the bootloader , you can check your bootloader by using acer recovery installer on the home screen it'll say bootloader version or something , then after that it'll either say 3.11 or 3.12 , those are honeycomb bootloaders , the ics bootloaders say 3.14 multi or something of that sort, goodluck
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The thread you linked to just explains how to get the hacked bootloader working on your tab... There's only one. A word of warning though: If you're on Linux, only the manual process works and it can be a bit fiddly... It seems that it doesn't work at all on some newer kernels and the script given in the thread is outdated. On windows, just use Blackthund3r's tool as suggested in civato's howto.

Thanks folks. Waiting on a 16gig SD card to come in before trying it. Looking forward to really using this tab since it's got that great HDMI out.

By the way when i said put gapps and rom prior to bootloader i mean save them to your sd card , don't flash it before the bootloader or else you'll need to reinstall a hc rom
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It is not necessery upgrading the boot loader to run an ICS or JB ROM!!!
The HC 3.0.1 boot loader is open, so it allows you to install what ever ROM you want.
And you can return every time you wish to your original HC ROM (backup) without the necessity of downgraiding again
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