[Q]Mkvs and 720p - Acer Iconia A500

can the icona play 720p videos? i just tried and the seems laggy and out of sync

fogozito said:
can the icona play 720p videos? i just tried and the seems laggy and out of sync
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Not in hardware, no, only software. That's why it's laggy. It can only do 720p H.264 baseline-profile MP4 in hardware.

fogozito said:
can the icona play 720p videos? i just tried and the seems laggy and out of sync
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The iconia can play 720p high profile and 1080p baseline. However, you need to convert the videos using handbreak. I tested and did not have a problem with 720p high profile movies.

fogozito said:
can the icona play 720p videos? i just tried and the seems laggy and out of sync
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With mobo player I can play a few 720p mkv files with hardware decode, but the sound is messed up with all of them.

San Pedro said:
With mobo player I can play a few 720p mkv files with hardware decode, but the sound is messed up with all of them.
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Most MKV's use AC3 for sound encoding and the A500 doesn't know what exactly to do with it so it sounds messed up. The video plays OK from what I've noticed after the 3.1 update but we need better codecs to parse AC3 to really make this work well. I've tried the xoom video test with the 3 avatar clips rendered in baseline, main and high and they all play flawlessly but the sound is AAC I think. If you want to re-encode the movies then they should play fine, but that's all that we can do for now until there's a better solution to handle AC3 audio.
Check out this post in the Xoom forums for a quick and easy tool to fix the audio.

texonex said:
The iconia can play 720p high profile and 1080p baseline. However, you need to convert the videos using handbreak. I tested and did not have a problem with 720p high profile movies.
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Atleast I am getting visibly choppy playback with 720p high profile, only baseline profile plays at full speed. Though I'm still on 3.0.1, I dunno if that makes any difference.

WereCatf said:
Atleast I am getting visibly choppy playback with 720p high profile, only baseline profile plays at full speed. Though I'm still on 3.0.1, I dunno if that makes any difference.
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Oh it definitely does make a difference. 3.0.1 ran like poo for most video. But they optimized something in 3.1 and now main and high work fine. The only real hangup now is audio encoding. Xoom folks noticed the differences immediately when they got their update, and running the leaked/fixed versions here on the A500, it's actually passable. I just wished some of the web-based streaming sites worked better--TNT's full episode player was real laggy, but could have been a limitation of wifi on G too, dunno. (may also be another sign to finally get an N-router)

WereCatf said:
Atleast I am getting visibly choppy playback with 720p high profile, only baseline profile plays at full speed. Though I'm still on 3.0.1, I dunno if that makes any difference.
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The difference was night and day between 3.0.1 and 3.1 for me in terms of video playback.

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720p video playback ftw

I downloaded some 720p video trailers and downsampled them with ffmpeg to 2Mbps and I'm happy to say they played smooth and beautifully with the stock player and mVideoPlayer. Seeking was also very quick. I did try the trailers without any downsample (they were pretty high bitrate) but they wouldn't play, so I don't know if it was a bitrate issue or something else. Next test is 720p HDMI out as soon as I receive my type D cable from Hong Kong.
how's shooting 720p videos in the dark? Do the fps go down?
shooting 720p sucks ass and looks bad, i don't recommend it. plus it shoots in mpeg4/3gp format instead of h264/mp4 which is lame.
720p playback is all great and fun, but... will it play H264 Main/High profiles? As with my current nearly-dead Touch Pro I can only play H264 baseline profiles smoothly, Main/High profiles arent supported so CorePlayer has to use software rendering, which for 480p vid does only ~8fps
catpunt said:
shooting 720p sucks ass and looks bad, i don't recommend it. plus it shoots in mpeg4/3gp format instead of h264/mp4 which is lame.
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You can use mpeg4 or h264 in the settings.
frifox said:
will it play H264 Main/High profiles?
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i tested with baseline, so i cant say
aldo37 said:
You can use mpeg4 or h264 in the settings.
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no it's h.263

HKTW 2.3.4 Build video playback performance

Finally our devices can handle h264 high profile and main profile. Also default mkv library support. Seems video performance is good but unfortunately audio performance is not the same. Atrix still cant handle AC3 audio codec. Any ideas or fixes for this?
hayspat said:
Finally our devices can handle h264 high profile and main profile. Also default mkv library support. Seems video performance is good but unfortunately audio performance is not the same. Atrix still cant handle AC3 audio codec. Any ideas or fixes for this?
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I notice audio seems to be a lot lower on this new build.
Are you guys using entertainment center to play video? The reason i ask is because it keeps force closing for me. Im wondering if reflashing system and webtop would fix this problem..
Hardware decode????
hayspat said:
Finally our devices can handle h264 high profile and main profile. Also default mkv library support. Seems video performance is good but unfortunately audio performance is not the same. Atrix still cant handle AC3 audio codec. Any ideas or fixes for this?
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Really can playback H.264 High Profile Videos (720p and 1080p) via HARDWARE Decode????? Without lag?
Holy tits!!!! Will test now!
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sdlopez83 said:
Holy tits!!!! Will test now!
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test result please ?
I tried upnplay some of my mkv's from my xbmc box and native player did not work.
Rockplayer works but slow and only in software.
Might transfer a mkv over and see how that works.
Only can play 720p and lower, cant play 1080p and audio codec must be AAC. I tried 720P H264 High Profile with ACC and it plays without any lag.
hayspat said:
Only can play 720p and lower, cant play 1080p and audio codec must be AAC. I tried 720P H264 High Profile with ACC and it plays without any lag.
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Thanks! That's pretty damn impressive! Not every netbook can handle 720p video.
Not working via hardware
Hi,
I installed 2.3.4 (Ninja ROM), but here, I'm able to play MP4 720p only via SOFTWARE DECODE (lag)....Via hardware, the same error message of Froyo (cannot play).....
Maybe I need some help.......
I can play high profile videos (on cherryblur), but sound doesnt work. Any fixes to this yet?

TouchWiz removed video support?

One of my favourite things about the Tab 10.1 is video format support. My #1 use for the device is watching videos during my morning/afternoon commutes. I download some videos the night before, and drop them onto the SD card in the AM. The Tab was able to play all of the formats I threw at it in 720p no problem, in the stock video player.
The first thing I noticed when I turned on my TouchWiz-updated tablet this morning is that none of the videos on it work. They show up as thumbnails in the gallery and video player, but cannot be played. In Moboplayer, the 720p files struggle because it's now relying on software decoding.
Is anyone having different experiences, or have a work around? I really hope this is not an intended change, or I'm probably going to return it. Too bad as I otherwise really like the update!
The update broke 720p high profile support. 720p baseline still works fine and the difference in image quality is negligible imo.
I hope they fix it in the near future, but as it stands now you either take the improved browser in this TW update, or go back to stock 3.1 or one of the older TW leaks and get 720p high profile support.
That sucks! I am assuming it is a bug and they will fix it.
I apologize for the upcoming noobish question as I'm not particularly familiar with codec's, and don't know the different between baseline and high profiles. I'm assuming I can convert one to the other in one step with handbrake? And would the difference in size be substantial?
duraeas said:
That sucks! I am assuming it is a bug and they will fix it.
I apologize for the upcoming noobish question as I'm not particularly familiar with codec's, and don't know the different between baseline and high profiles. I'm assuming I can convert one to the other in one step with handbrake? And would the difference in size be substantial?
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Yep use handbrake and the baseline profile attached to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
Just queue up your files and walk away. I think the files might end up slightly larger but I'm not 100% sure, either way it isn't a big difference.
I'm also assuming it's a bug as high profile playback was a feature that was added in HC 3.1
DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
sylvesterrr said:
DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
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Interesting... I'll grab it and try when I get home. Do you know if it is designed for the Tegra 2 and using the GPU to decode the video (I'm assuming it is otherwise it should be stuttering)?
duraeas said:
Interesting... I'll grab it and try when I get home. Do you know if it is designed for the Tegra 2 and using the GPU to decode the video (I'm assuming it is otherwise it should be stuttering)?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
It states it uses hw acceleration on Tegra2 devices.
all the mp4 vids i had are still playing nicely on mobo player
Can anyone comment on DivX/AVI support?
I picked up my GT10.1 today, and since it supports DivX out of the box, gave some a try. I was disappointed that the picture broke up and pixelated repeatedly on every AVI I tried. So, I installed Mobo Player and tried it in software mode, but got exactly the same results (which surprised me somewhat).
I also have an Asus Transformer, and those AVIs play flawlessly on the TF using Mobo Player in software mode (since Asus didn't add hardware support for DivX).
I'm wondering if this is related somehow to this issue, since my GT10.1 came with Touchwiz.
Regards,
Dave
720p High Profile H264 is indeed broken. Verified in Mobo Player and System Media Player.
How do I know they are high profile? I made them, and because I only encode in high profile via handbrake.
Bummer because the Tegra2 handles 720p High Profile H264 wonderfully prior to this update.
I have 4 video players loaded because the built in video player couldn't play all of the videos that I have loaded. Ironically I have the exact opposite experience of the OP, it now plays all the formats I have loaded.
TabGuy said:
I have 4 video players loaded because the built in video player couldn't play all of the videos that I have loaded. Ironically I have the exact opposite experience of the OP, it now plays all the formats I have loaded.
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Can you tell us which players you use? Do you need all of them? Does one work better (produce better quality) than the others? Thanks.
hoodoomagic said:
The update broke 720p high profile support. 720p baseline still works fine and the difference in image quality is negligible imo.
I hope they fix it in the near future, but as it stands now you either take the improved browser in this TW update, or go back to stock 3.1 or one of the older TW leaks and get 720p high profile support.
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This is extremely disappointing news because one of the things I love about the SGT is the quality of its video playback. My friend has a Xoom and he was blown away when I showed him some hi-def videos I downloaded.
I have a lot of high-def videos I downloaded straight from Vimeo, and they play flawlessly on my SGT without any conversions whatsoever. The thought of having to use Handbrake -- or anything else -- to convert every video I own is not very appealing to me. I hope Samsung fixes this problem.
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Can you tell us which players you use? Do you need all of them? Does one work better (produce better quality) than the others? Thanks.
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I have mVideoPlayer, which I like the best. I also have ES Video Player which comes with the ES File Explorer. And, I also have VPlayer.
VPlayer will play anything I throw at it. I've never had it not play a video. I only downloaded it because it's required by Remote Potato. Remote Potato lets me play Recorded TV from my Windows Media Center cable card tuner.
To be honest, this is sort of souring the update for me. I'll be testing when I get home to confirm there is no problem playing back lower resolution files. Still, I like to keep a few high-def movies on my Tab and don't want to convert them all. I hope this is a very temporary problem, not something that gets fixed for the 3.2 build.
I don't know if this is related, but when I was trying out the new Kies app on my PC with my tab connected over Wifi, it (Kies on the PC) offered to download new codecs when I first tried to transfer a video over to the Tab. My PC shouldn't have needed new codecs since all the video play on my PC.
sylvesterrr said:
DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
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x2, just tried it out and it worked fine with my high profile 720p videos in mkv and m4v.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.dice
Just to add, the TW update apparently fixed ac3 audio playback.
my video players including the stock player play "high profile" m4v and mkv's perfectly
what a dumb thing to do Samsung..
BluesTele said:
my video players including the stock player play "high profile" m4v and mkv's perfectly
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Well, the stockplayer can't play this pixar short movie. At least, it doesn't on my Tab... Dice Player plays it smoothly.
Code:
Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 47.95 (48000/1001) -> 24.00 (24/1)
Input #0, matroska, from 'for.the.birds.2000.720p.bluray.x264-sinners.mkv':
Metadata:
doctype : matroska
Duration: 00:03:25.24, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 640 kb/s
Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264, yuv420p, 1280x688, PAR 1:1 DAR 80:43, 23.98 fps, 24 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc
Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 640 kb/s

Play 1080p Video?

I've tried MX player, rock player and the default video player to playback my 1080p videos but they all still lag and play slowly. All videos are in mp4. Are there any apps out there that would be able to do this?
Cheers
try out dice player, and overclock, if ur tf is rooted, should be able to play smoothly. anyway I believe there are threads ard discussing this, please go do a search for them.
darkstar09 said:
I've tried MX player, rock player and the default video player to playback my 1080p videos but they all still lag and play slowly. All videos are in mp4. Are there any apps out there that would be able to do this?
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Dice player is the best by far IMO, even gets rid of the home and back buttons illuminating.
It plays mkv files and I have files over 3gb which also play without any problems.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.dice&hl=en
Just for fun I searched this forum for "1080p" in the thread title only. This doesn't include all the other random ways someone has asked this exact same question at least 100 other times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251784&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051629&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199268&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192865&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121428&highlight=1080p
And there are more. I believe on of the rules of xda is to search first and I know it asks if you have searched for existing threads before you start a new one. Granted it searches all of xda to show you threads but the search button is easily found and searches a specific forum.
This is the first rule of xda
1. Search before posting.
I guarantee this has been asked and answered many times this week alone
not sure about 1080p that's going to be hit and miss especially if you have big file sizes.
I'm using revolver 3.2 at 1.3 and can confirm 720p playback with file sizes of 3 gig or so play perfectly with dice player.
This can play back 1080P files just fine....DEPENDING on the bitrate. It's a limitation of Tegra 2. If the bitrate is high, it will have problems. Just like 720P files with really high bitrates have the same limitations.
Honestly, why does it matter? If you're outputting through HDMI to watch things, then I can kinda understand, but the screen itself only supports 720P. Why bother with 1080P?
Just out of curiosity, does overclocking improve video playback?
darkhawkff said:
This can play back 1080P files just fine....DEPENDING on the bitrate. It's a limitation of Tegra 2. If the bitrate is high, it will have problems. Just like 720P files with really high bitrates have the same limitations.
Honestly, why does it matter? If you're outputting through HDMI to watch things, then I can kinda understand, but the screen itself only supports 720P. Why bother with 1080P?
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Bitrate, uh?
How much is "really high"? 10mbps? 16mbps? and why the lower the resolution the higher the bitrate it can handle, if I got your post right?
Nah. I have a 1080p file, 16mbps. Plays well without overclock. I have another 1080p file, 10mbps, dosen't play well even at 1.6ghz. 720p file, still 10mbps, needs overclock (even 1.2ghz is enough). The difference between them? the kind of encoding. All this with Diceplayer, not the horrid Rockplayer, mind you.
Diceplayer works on most of my DSLR footage 1080 with 40-60datarate
AlexTheStampede said:
Bitrate, uh?
How much is "really high"? 10mbps? 16mbps? and why the lower the resolution the higher the bitrate it can handle, if I got your post right?
Nah. I have a 1080p file, 16mbps. Plays well without overclock. I have another 1080p file, 10mbps, dosen't play well even at 1.6ghz. 720p file, still 10mbps, needs overclock (even 1.2ghz is enough). The difference between them? the kind of encoding. All this with Diceplayer, not the horrid Rockplayer, mind you.
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I'm struggling with 720p encoded @L4. 1.. Mostly all L3. 1 plays nice in diceplayer.
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If I remember correctly, movies encoded in High Profile will not play back well. Main Profile is the best this machine can handle. I believe it's a Tegra 2 limitation in general.
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If I remember correctly, movies encoded in High Profile will not play back well. Main Profile is the best this machine can handle. I believe it's a Tegra 2 limitation in general.
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Well, high L3. 1 is ok with some oc.
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hairyonion said:
not sure about 1080p that's going to be hit and miss especially if you have big file sizes.
I'm using revolver 3.2 at 1.3 and can confirm 720p playback with file sizes of 3 gig or so play perfectly with dice player.
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Let me comment on that:
LOL
Without OC, DICE player (and transformer itself) can only play Level3.1 content and it will slideshow on 99% of internet standard (scene) releases. If you think 'plays perfectly', then you're brain and eyesight damaged.
With OC, you can play play simple 720p content (think WebDL releases) with decent quality (though they will still drop frames in more complex scenes), but more complex releases (think blueray rips) will drop frames on most scenes and slideshow totally on more complex ones.
You would have to be really lucky to find a 1080p movie that will play. Many won't open at all, rest will be dropping frames constantly. When ASUS said that 3.1 update make 1080p playback possible, by playback they meant rendering first frame of the movie.
Dice player is the best
go for it
As mentioned on the other posts about HD playback, the hardware decode of 720p or 1080p H264 with AAC is currently broken in 3.2. Worked fine in 3.1, then got broke. Asus are aware of it and have promised a fix.
If you have such files (e.g. BBC iPlayer HD content) then no player will be able to play them back smoothly as software decode simply can't handle them. Only option is to either transcode or downgrade to HC3.1 to get hardware decode back.
Let's hope the fix is not far off now.
bro just play 720p. trust me you THINK you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10' screen but you cant......unless your not human
uploder said:
bro just play 720p. trust me you THINK you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10' screen but you cant......unless your not human
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Well, there cannot possibly exist a difference between displaying 720p and 1080p on a 1280x800 screen, since all 1080p content would be scaled down to 720p. Where 1080p would actually matter is if you often connect to a big monitor or HDTV that is capable of 1080p, such as I do on a regular basis for when I want to watch movies without having to boot up my desktop computer. There is definitely a noticeable difference between 720p videos I've converted with Handbrake and the actual 1080p Blu ray movies, but it's not really a big deal for me.
My suggestion for those truly concerned about high quality 1080p playback would be to buy a netbook equipped with a Nvidia ION or comparable video chipset, as I have had no issues playing Blu ray from my own ION-equipped nettop.
yeah my MX player would lag like crazy. Dice is the way to go!
earlyberd said:
Well, there cannot possibly exist a difference between displaying 720p and 1080p on a 1280x800 screen, since all 1080p content would be scaled down to 720p. Where 1080p would actually matter is if you often connect to a big monitor or HDTV that is capable of 1080p, such as I do on a regular basis for when I want to watch movies without having to boot up my desktop computer...........
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ah i see. then YES. there would definitely be a difference. I just assumed you were watching directly on the TF. my mistake

no issues playing 720p mkv?

Does anyone know if the 7.7" version plays back 720p MKV without any problems?
I have the original 7.0", and it plays 720p MKV perfect!
I also have a 10.1", but that one is struggling with 720p MKV in stock and other players. (on both HC3.1 and 3.2). Apparently the Tetra2 is not ideal for this...
This is my only deal-breaker for the 7.7.
Would really appreciate your feedback!
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Apparently the Tetra2 is not ideal for this...
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Because they forgot to implement the NEON chipset!
1080p/720p mkv's shouldn't be a problem on the 7.7 with MX Player or DICE.
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Nope, no problem at all.
It can play 1080p, 8 bit , high bitrate movie with hardware decoding just fine( use mxvideoplayer with arm7 neon codec)
No problems playing 720p mkvs. Heck I can even play 10-bit 720p anime files using MX Player in SW mode. You'll notice a very slight fps drop during panning scenes and such but audio, video, and subs still stay in sync so it's quite watchable. Heard once you get ICS you will be able to take advantage of HW mode on all videos, even 10-bit.

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