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Hey guys,
I've been lurking here ever since I got the incredible. Unfortunately, this is the first time I needed to post and it's bad news. My Incredible is rebooting more than 20 times a day, and I mean that not counting the reboot loop it gets stuck in. I have wiped the phone clean, started to go through the start up wizard, and it rebooted there, so I know it's not an bad app. It has rebooted randomly, though not as bad, before I rooted, so it's not that. I live in southern california and I get good service at home so I don't think it's the same problem as those incidents in south carolina. Does anyone have an idea what it could be? I'm running out of solutions and ready to just drop the phone, eat the ETF and go to sprint. Thanks in advance for the help.
Kiyoshi
I would flash it back to stock take it to verizon and show them what it is doing and have them send you another one, I brought mine back for the unresponsive screen issue and they said it was going to take three weeks for me to get another one but I received it 4 days later. so before switching to sprint and paying a big ETF I would try the above first. but if all else fails to ease the pain a little and not have to pay such a big ETF get a crappy verizon flip phone that you can activate on the line use it for a day or two then cancel your account. you will only pay a 175.00 ETF vs a 350.00 ETF. just a little round about way to "stick it" to the man.
Also, does downgrading and unrooting get rid of the wireless-n mod? Just downgraded and was in the wizard and right when I tried to connect to my network, it rebooted.
That's funny I just flashed it back to stock so I could do that. The problem is that I bought it from best buy in april and did not buy the extended warranty ( of course not, damn waste of money). IIRC, verizon does not honor warranties bought from a different store, correct?
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Also, does downgrading and unrooting get rid of the wireless-n mod? Just downgraded and was in the wizard and right when I tried to connect to my network, it rebooted.
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if you reflash the stock ROM it wipes everything including root and wireless N, only reflash stock if you want to return it to the store otherwise you will have to go through the sd card root process again.
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That's funny I just flashed it back to stock so I could do that. The problem is that I bought it from best buy in april and did not buy the extended warranty ( of course not, damn waste of money). IIRC, verizon does not honor warranties bought from a different store, correct?
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I am not sure if verizon won't exchange it, I think that there is a year warranty on the phone standard and extended warranty is only good for after the manufacturers warranty runs out. I would check with BB first and if they won't exchange it take it to verizon and see what they say, BB is an authorized verizon dealer so I would imagine that verizon will honor the warranty. but there is only one way to find out. Good Luck.
ok, so I took it to verizon today, and luckily for me it was rebooting away right after the CSR personally factory reset it. I actually was happy it did, too. She was so smug, telling me that I should have been using a task killer and that maybe I didn't factory reset it correctly. She starts it up and was giving me a "haha that's how you do it" look, when it rebooted on her. She battery pulled it, and then it went into a reboot loop on her. Her smug look was replaced by a look of defeat. It was worth the fact that I couldn't get it to stop rebooting for five minutes after that.
I then called 611 and they said they had a replacement for me and that it would be at my doorstep in two days. Evidently, they keep a separate stock for warranty issues. Well anyways, thanks for the help and I'll have an incredible back in my hands soon
Have u tried going into airplane mode and see if it does it? Just curious.
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Haha I just read Ur last post, I find it funny cuz I work for Verizon also and man u would not believe how many reps say u need a task killer, dumbasses.
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Yes, keeping it in airplane mode definitely helped. With that in mind, I might have an idea of what happened to my phone and potentially to other phones that have had this problem. I ordered the seidio 1750 batt. when I first got my phone, so I have been using it pretty much since the beginning. As you may know it can get unusually warm when in use. I would frequently use it when I'm at work to listen to podcasts and would keep it on the car charger while in use ( I work at a landfill doing gas monitoring, engineering, etc. so always in my work truck). That is first time I could recall a reboot occurring. I don't know how the internal layout is made up, but perhaps the radio or whatever else related received damage due to overheating. Oh well, already received my new incredible and I now have a battery charger so I will avoid charging and using at the same time. You guys are probably saying "Uh, yeah, of course that will happen, dumbass" but I've never had a problem with my other phones.
so I took my epic to a sprint store to get a new screen. got it back and turned it on. found out they deleted a few games and my task killer. and for some reason, my phone could not get an service whatsoever. it says I am in roaming with no bars and I know that's wrong because I get full bars in my house. also, I cannot send or receive calls or texts. after n hour on the phone with sprint, they couldn't fix it and they finally just switched my service to an older phone. I will go to a sprint store at a current date but I'm on vacation and don't have a chance to go to the store.
so, any ideas what mightve happened? and ideas how I should go about talking to sprint to get this issue fixed?
thanks in advance.
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We will need to know more about the phone. Are you running stock ROM or not? Are you rooted? I am guessing that since you took it into the store that you were running it stock and unrooted. Give us some more details and we might be able to be more help.
It looks like you might need to factory reset, but you can d/l a backup program to save all the .apks for the apps you have gotten from the market, or you can root the phone and get a better backup program. I would not recommend using clockwork recovery as, I believe, it will back up everything and might just restore the phone to its unusable state. That being said it couldn't hurt to try Clockwork recovery and if you just have to wipe the phone again you can.
It's really annoying when you take a phone into Sprint and they just make matters worse. One time I took a phone it for an issue with the screen and they actually broke the screen further and then refused to figure out a way to fix it.
I'm rooted and I'm running the latest epic experience based off of dk28. was not able to odin completely back to stock before taking it to the store. they never said anything about it being the wrong firmware.
when I returned home, it was too late to actually do anything about the issue, so I called tech support. the woman worked me through some tests and nothing indicated what was wrong and therefore there's no solution to it. she finally just said that its a hardware malfunction, which it could be. only way to get that fixed is to go to the sprint store whenever I'm able to, which might not be for a while.
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Yeah I don't think it's a hardware issuer personally. If you haven't tried wiping the phone and starting fresh that would be my first step. The fact is that if it's hardware you will end up with a fresh phone anyhow, so why not factory reset the phone and see if it fixes the problem...also maybe uninstall the last few apps you downloaded. They might be messing with your radios.
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Did they choc the screen? If stop I guess it's possible that they messed up your radios at thst point.
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I actually think this is a hardware issue. Better flash back to stock before you bring it in for any issues or they can deny your replacement. Sprint corporate repair centers have advanced testers specifically for signal related issues and without an antenna it will fail for sure. You may want to explain the issue started when your screen was replaced.
When they replaced the screen they may have screwed up the antenna internal. Generally, a tech will not do anything with the firmware/software when they are fixing hardware so I am not sure what happened with your apps.
Also, the part was likely harvested from another phone... If they brought the antenna from the other phone it could be defective (which is possibly why it was there to harvest from). It's also possible that your antenna is not actually in your phone.
wait I thought if you were within your first year they had to give you a new phone anyway?
I would definatly be raising a stink! Look you paid good money for the phone and hopefully you paid for insurance. dont let them give you second rate service. Go ask for a new phone and just transfer all your stuffto that one.
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wait I thought if you were within your first year they had to give you a new phone anyway?
I would definatly be raising a stink! Look you paid good money for the phone and hopefully you paid for insurance. dont let them give you second rate service. Go ask for a new phone and just transfer all your stuffto that one.
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Not if he rooted and flashed a non apporved update and they see it
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As stated above, odin to stock, and ***** till its resolved. IDK if another sprint store is an option, but that can help, also calling into tech support and getting an appt with the repair center seems to help. Was just in today and should be getting a 'replacement' Monday, I have a purple line of what appears to be stuck pixels along the bottom or left side of screen. First sprint store, the brilliant techs tried to tell me it was a 'cosmetic flaw' and that they could fix it for 35 bux, knowing I have TEP... got home, called in, tech support guy was really cool, and also noticed that 35 bux applies to people w/o TEP, the only way money would be involved would be water, loss, etc... got an appt for today, and yeah... hoping the replacement is new... but whatever. Anyways, you have a 500 dollar phone, don't take any BS... the first guys even said to call sammy for a warranty.... idiots.
thanks for all the replies.
part of the tests included doing a factory reset. and that didn't work. I can't believe that doing a repair could completely mess up my phone even more. of course I'll ***** and complain until I get my way. I'm used to it with sprint.
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They probably didnt reconnect the antenna. I had to get my 3.5mm headphone jack replaced on my epic and when the sprint rep handed the phone back, I went outside and couldnt get any signal whatsoever. I immediately took the phone back and the rep reconnected the antenna in a matter of minutes.
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They probably didnt reconnect the antenna. I had to get my 3.5mm headphone jack replaced on my epic and when the sprint rep handed the phone back, I went outside and couldnt get any signal whatsoever. I immediately took the phone back and the rep reconnected the antenna in a matter of minutes.
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this sounds almost exactly like what I'm experiencing. as soon as I return home or find spare time, ill go back to sprint and see if they can reconnect the antenna.
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Definitely could be a simple issue with the antenna being plugged in. If it was reset already then its likely not software BUT... they will not replace it if it needs to be replaced if they notice that its rooted.
I had same issue after camera button failed. Antenna wasnt put back on properly. I had crazy signals.
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So you haven't tried odin yet...? Just a fw? What if your modem is just buggy...
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wait I thought if you were within your first year they had to give you a new phone anyway?
I would definatly be raising a stink! Look you paid good money for the phone and hopefully you paid for insurance. dont let them give you second rate service. Go ask for a new phone and just transfer all your stuffto that one.
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Wrong. Sprint doesn't HAVE to give you a new phone. Its a fix/replace policy and if you don't have insurance it will cost you $35. That's a recent policy change. You can go through Samsung if your looking to excersise your one year warranty...but good luck on a rooted phone.
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unfortunantly, my laptop is down right now. so I cannot odin back to stock. no, I've never had this problem before and judging by a few others, it seems that this is a common problem.
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Wrong. Sprint doesn't HAVE to give you a new phone. Its a fix/replace policy and if you don't have insurance it will cost you $35. That's a recent policy change. You can go through Samsung if your looking to excersise your one year warranty...but good luck on a rooted phone.
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I will disagree with you, I do beleive that within the first year of you buying that phone they have to give you a replacement, But I will research this further and post my results.
I'll help with the policy, If you don't have a service and repair plan, or TEP, then they will charge you 35 for a repair, regardless of if the phone is in warranty or not. 35 bucks includes everything except board damage, phone coming in the store in two pieces, or liquid damage. I.E. something that can't be repaired anyway by anyone, I.E damaged beyond repair.
If you have the service plan, then you don't get charged the 35 bucks.
If the store can't fix the issue, they order a refurb phone that usually shows up in one/two business days at the store or to your house, your choice.
The only time you get a NEW phone is when you've had the device for less than 30 days, you can return it any time in that period or get it swapped out for a new one if there is a issue and the store can't fix it. You can return it for any reason as well during this time.
Anyway, like everyone stated, the issue with the phone is that the antenna is probably not hooked up. It's at the bottom of the phone, and is connected with a cable that has two connects on it, one at each end, at the antenna and at the main board. One or both of them is off the phone, and that could be fixed by anyone with a screw driver and a butter knife in about 5 minutes.
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I'll help with the policy, If you don't have a service and repair plan, or TEP, then they will charge you 35 for a repair, regardless of if the phone is in warranty or not. 35 bucks includes everything except board damage, phone coming in the store in two pieces, or liquid damage. I.E. something that can't be repaired anyway by anyone, I.E damaged beyond repair.
If you have the service plan, then you don't get charged the 35 bucks.
If the store can't fix the issue, they order a refurb phone that usually shows up in one/two business days at the store or to your house, your choice.
The only time you get a NEW phone is when you've had the device for less than 30 days, you can return it any time in that period or get it swapped out for a new one if there is a issue and the store can't fix it. You can return it for any reason as well during this time.
Anyway, like everyone stated, the issue with the phone is that the antenna is probably not hooked up. It's at the bottom of the phone, and is connected with a cable that has two connects on it, one at each end, at the antenna and at the main board. One or both of them is off the phone, and that could be fixed by anyone with a screw driver and a butter knife in about 5 minutes.
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Well that stinks if i buy a almost 600 dollar phone and say 2 months goes , if they send me a refurbished , im gonna raise a stink.
I suppose its no surprise, but after flashing the official Samsung Froyo firmware for Vibrant, my GPS works no better than before. It takes 10 minutes to lock if it locks at all.
About a month ago while we were all waiting for Froyo I called Samsung tech support, based on the 1 year warranty. They told me Froyo would fix it for sure. I asked what happened when it doesn't, and was told there really was nothing they could do. They had no hardware fix, and sending it in for repair would just get it back the same way.
It's pretty clear from the hardware fix thread that there is a hardware problem. I really don't want to void the 'teriffic' Samsung warranty by attempting the fix.
Has anyone actually got any satisfaction out of Samsung (a replacement, or a successful repair)?
Did you do a factory reset after you updated to 2.2?
settings>privacy>factory data reset
KA6 is much better, the modem from the official build is terrible for me. Might try the hardware fix.
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Did you do a factory reset after you updated to 2.2?
settings>privacy>factory data reset
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Didn't try that. Would I lose my app's and their data/settings?
Mine is crap too... I locked within seconds when I was running Axura or Nero... I definitely believe it's a software issue. The harware fix did nothing on 2 Vibrants. If TW and D4A can get it right why can't Samsung and Tmo? Hell, maybe they could at least contact these guys and find out what they're doing wrong.
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Didn't try that. Would I lose my app's and their data/settings?
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Yes, but paid apps are stored in your google account in the market, may want to export contacts to SD if they aren't saved to google. All other settings/messages will be lost.
contacts>menu>export.
Save any photos on internal memory to SD.
I would do that and report back. I did an upgrade on a Vibrant sans the factory reset. GPS was ****. So I'll have to do that (it's my dad's phone). Need to do my sisters too.
I fixed my gps by doing a warranty replacement.
New handset was has a December '10 manf date. I get near instant locks and about 15 feet accuracy.
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I fixed my gps by doing a warranty replacement.
New handset was has a December '10 manf date. I get near instant locks and about 15 feet accuracy.
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Yup that's another good option, warranty replacement.
Its definitely a software issue for most vibrants. I never had issues with getting a lock, my accuracy is horrible though. I get 30 - 40 feet accuracy usually and if that's not bad enough, GPS jumps locations on a stop light or sometimes, even on a straight road. It shows I am driving on grass... then reroutes 4 times and shows me on an adjacent street. I have bent the connector as stated in hardware fix thread but still the same issue...
maybe I'll get galaxy s 4g if gps works better on it.
gps didn't work for me either but after i used the samsung gps restore app it fixed it and my gps is working better then ever. try that
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I fixed my gps by doing a warranty replacement.
New handset was has a December '10 manf date. I get near instant locks and about 15 feet accuracy.
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Was it a T-mobile replacement or a Samsung replacement?
I don't have a T-mobile contract, so my only option is Samsung. Mine is a 7/13 unit.
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Was it a T-mobile replacement or a Samsung replacement?
I don't have a T-mobile contract, so my only option is Samsung. Mine is a 7/13 unit.
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It was all handled through T-Mobile's customer care.
Do you mean you are off contract with TMo or that you have a different carrier?
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It was all handled through T-Mobile's customer care.
Do you mean you are off contract with TMo or that you have a different carrier?
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I bought it from T-mobile at full price with a plan that could be canceled with no penalty (which I did). I use a Clearwire 4G mobile hotspot for data, and a T-mobile pay as you go voice sim for the occasional voice call (which I don't do much of).
To the one say factory reset
I Odin back to JFD and upgrade to KA6
the GPS is still a piece of ****
I bought this phone on the day it comes out
I want to change it if it can fix that, but i don't want to get a refurbished one since not only one person said the refurbished one is worse than a used one with scratch and broken part....
I'm using bionix v and the GPS works well. Personally if factory reset was the way to go, I'd put everything on titanium backup. I tried the GPS restore but I would still have problems. I had cases where the GPS would shut off during navigation and reboot my phone. But that was with the official.
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I bought it from T-mobile at full price with a plan that could be canceled with no penalty (which I did). I use a Clearwire 4G mobile hotspot for data, and a T-mobile pay as you go voice sim for the occasional voice call (which I don't do much of).
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If you are using their sim in your phone you bought from them, I would see if they would honor the warranty.
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I suppose its no surprise, but after flashing the official Samsung Froyo firmware for Vibrant, my GPS works no better than before. It takes 10 minutes to lock if it locks at all.
About a month ago while we were all waiting for Froyo I called Samsung tech support, based on the 1 year warranty. They told me Froyo would fix it for sure. I asked what happened when it doesn't, and was told there really was nothing they could do. They had no hardware fix, and sending it in for repair would just get it back the same way.
It's pretty clear from the hardware fix thread that there is a hardware problem. I really don't want to void the 'teriffic' Samsung warranty by attempting the fix.
Has anyone actually got any satisfaction out of Samsung (a replacement, or a successful repair)?
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Odd, after flashing the ka5 modem, I've had pretty fast gps locks. Accuracy could be better (10-20 feet), but it is much better than it was on previous builds.
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Emama said:
To the one say factory reset
I Odin back to JFD and upgrade to KA6
the GPS is still a piece of ****
I bought this phone on the day it comes out
I want to change it if it can fix that, but i don't want to get a refurbished one since not only one person said the refurbished one is worse than a used one with scratch and broken part....
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The refurb I got was one month old, and in flawless condition. If it didn't work, I would have kept warranty replacing it until they sent me one that did work. I am absolutely stunned at how well my gps works compared to the one I bought on launch day.
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I'm only saying to do a reset because others here are saying it has helped. If this phone didn't have a GPS issue this issue wouldn't come up.
My gps was completely broken after mini kies 2.2 update.
Did the factory reset, and now it works amazingly well. did it while i was driving. lol.
Hello everyone,
I need some advice or suggestions on what to do. The Mytouch 4g, as you all may know, has a lot of problems. I've done many exchanges now, and some of them were done back to back. The first few times, TMO was able to ship express for free, but now they are charging me $9.99 for regular ground shipping even though the phones that I receive are defective. I am very frustrated at this point and have been thinking about canceling all 4 of my lines with them and eating the $800 ETF. What do you guys think I should do?
You may be wondering why I have to exchange it so many times..
Unlike the fellow perfectionists that you guys are, I never exchanged a phone that had a bad screen or squeaking buttons. The first time I exchanged it was because it had two dead pixels, then the power button would no longer work, then there was a ton of dust under the screen to the point where I had trouble seeing the top left corner where my status/notification bar is, then I had wifi and reception problems, then I've had the phone either shut off or reboot on its own.
I've been running into many, many problems - and they are not always the same problem either. After the third phone, all they have been doing is sending out refurbished units that are 'pre-damaged' by the previous user. On top of that, I have to pay for shipping on each phone, plus the Zagg's invisible shield (it's about $23 with labor on installation) that I had on several of the replacement phones. After troubleshooting for hours on end with tech support, I noticed that my battery cover is loose since they had me reboot/remove battery so many times, I ended up buying the gel skin case from TMO yesterday so that the battery cover wouldn't fall off.
I would be glad to take any advice that you guys have at this point. Thank you.
Edit: By the way, I did not have any apps other than opera mini - didn't even update youtube and things like that.
The statistical likelihood of getting 9 defective devices in a row is astronomical. Truly. If you are being honest and these are all really manufacturing defects then you sir are the unluckiest ****er ever and you are never welcome to babysit my kids. I don't really have any advice except to say that if your next problem is software related, try rooting and see if that fixes it. Otherwise I would avoid crosswalks and commercial flight if at all possible. Damn dude. Unlucky...
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They can offer to give you a different phone all together. Like the g2 or galaxy 4g. Just ask
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Do this. Call tmobile and tell them the issue with your device. Have them do another warranty exchage, but, instead of getting it shipped, tell them that you really do not want to wait once more to receive another device shipped and that if you can go into a tmo store and pick up a warranty replacement. They shouldn't have a problem telling you yes. Have them call the store so they can tell them you will be going in to get a warranty replacement. This way for sure you wont get a refurbished device. You will be getting a brand new one out of the box. This is the way I did my warranty exchage. They even gave me an extra battery for free.
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I agree with coupetastic-droid and also after your 5th replacement you should get a different phone if u want for ur replacement. Try for a g2 or even a g2x!
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Do this. Call tmobile and tell them the issue with your device. Have them do another warranty exchage, but, instead of getting it shipped, tell them that you really do not want to wait once more to receive another device shipped and that if you can go into a tmo store and pick up a warranty replacement. They shouldn't have a problem telling you yes. Have them call the store so they can tell them you will be going in to get a warranty replacement. This way for sure you wont get a refurbished device. You will be getting a brand new one out of the box. This is the way I did my warranty exchage. They even gave me an extra battery for free.
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I tried that last time.
They no longer do warranty exchanges in store.
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I tried that last time.
They no longer do warranty exchanges in store.
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Yep, that courtesy ended with a new policy about 3-4 weeks ago and it can't be overridden.
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The statistical likelihood of getting 9 defective devices in a row is astronomical. Truly. If you are being honest and these are all really manufacturing defects then you sir are the unluckiest ****er ever and you are never welcome to babysit my kids. I don't really have any advice except to say that if your next problem is software related, try rooting and see if that fixes it. Otherwise I would avoid crosswalks and commercial flight if at all possible. Damn dude. Unlucky...
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TJ you crack me up. I actually went through this guys episode with a mytouch slide, 5 phones under warranty, but they never charged me a dime for shipping. The one and only issue i had with the Mytouch slide was dust under the screen. I can't remember if it was the 3rd or the 4th replacement i got in the mail, but that one came with dust in all four corners. Didn't even insert a SIM card in that phone just took it down to my local Tmobile store and the manager exchanged it for me. After the 5th replacement with dust i decided to sell it and replace it with a MT4G. Well it was all good for a week until my power button failed to work, 1st exchange. They made me pay the 9.99 shipping for that one. Receive the new phone and i notice the display sucks compared to my wife's MT4G. Instead of calling in to tmobile i drive down to the local Tmobile store and i show the manager my predicament ( mind you this is the same guy that was exchanging my Mytouch Slide). Nice guy orders me another MT4G, waived the shipping. 3rd phone arrives a few days later, display is washed out, but i decide to live with it. Figuring that if i exchange it again I'll get another one with the crappy display. F**K me if the power button doesn't work after two weeks. I go back to the Tmobile store and have another chat with the manager, orders me another MT4G and waives the shipping. Manager tells me, "You're the unluckiest man i've seen with a phone", and i said "yes, yes, I am." Last exchange was the charm, good screen, and the power button actually works. I honestly thought i was the only poor bastard that could be this unlucky with phones. I have to show my wife this post, so she doesn't think i'm the unluckiest man alive. You sir have just made my day. If you can i'd go to a local tmobile store and see what they can do for you. Best of luck.
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TJ you crack me up. I actually went through this guys episode with a mytouch slide, 5 phones under warranty, but they never charged me a dime for shipping. The one and only issue i had with the Mytouch slide was dust under the screen. I can't remember if it was the 3rd or the 4th replacement i got in the mail, but that one came with dust in all four corners. Didn't even insert a SIM card in that phone just took it down to my local Tmobile store and the manager exchanged it for me. After the 5th replacement with dust i decided to sell it and replace it with a MT4G. Well it was all good for a week until my power button failed to work, 1st exchange. They made me pay the 9.99 shipping for that one. Receive the new phone and i notice the display sucks compared to my wife's MT4G. Instead of calling in to tmobile i drive down to the local Tmobile store and i show the manager my predicament ( mind you this is the same guy that was exchanging my Mytouch Slide). Nice guy orders me another MT4G, waived the shipping. 3rd phone arrives a few days later, display is washed out, but i decide to live with it. Figuring that if i exchange it again I'll get another one with the crappy display. F**K me if the power button doesn't work after two weeks. I go back to the Tmobile store and have another chat with the manager, orders me another MT4G and waives the shipping. Manager tells me, "You're the unluckiest man i've seen with a phone", and i said "yes, yes, I am." Last exchange was the charm, good screen, and the power button actually works. I honestly thought i was the only poor bastard that could be this unlucky with phones. I have to show my wife this post, so she doesn't think i'm the unluckiest man alive. You sir have just made my day. If you can i'd go to a local tmobile store and see what they can do for you. Best of luck.
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Im on my 4th right now. 2 power buttons and 1 with dust under screen. All good displays tho. All within a month and a week of getting it
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Sfkn2 said:
Hello everyone,
I need some advice or suggestions on what to do. The Mytouch 4g, as you all may know, has a lot of problems. I've done many exchanges now, and some of them were done back to back. The first few times, TMO was able to ship express for free, but now they are charging me $9.99 for regular ground shipping even though the phones that I receive are defective. I am very frustrated at this point and have been thinking about canceling all 4 of my lines with them and eating the $800 ETF. What do you guys think I should do?
You may be wondering why I have to exchange it so many times..
Unlike the fellow perfectionists that you guys are, I never exchanged a phone that had a bad screen or squeaking buttons. The first time I exchanged it was because it had two dead pixels, then the power button would no longer work, then there was a ton of dust under the screen to the point where I had trouble seeing the top left corner where my status/notification bar is, then I had wifi and reception problems, then I've had the phone either shut off or reboot on its own.
I've been running into many, many problems - and they are not always the same problem either. After the third phone, all they have been doing is sending out refurbished units that are 'pre-damaged' by the previous user. On top of that, I have to pay for shipping on each phone, plus the Zagg's invisible shield (it's about $23 with labor on installation) that I had on several of the replacement phones. After troubleshooting for hours on end with tech support, I noticed that my battery cover is loose since they had me reboot/remove battery so many times, I ended up buying the gel skin case from TMO yesterday so that the battery cover wouldn't fall off.
I would be glad to take any advice that you guys have at this point. Thank you.
Edit: By the way, I did not have any apps other than opera mini - didn't even update youtube and things like that.
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First of all, nice 'Lude. I just picked up an 07 Civic Si Sedan on Saturday and I ****ing LOVE it!
2nd, are you running stock Sense or rooted? To be perfectly honest I've found the stock Sense to be much more buggy than the cm7 I've been running for the past 3 or 4 months.
My first phone had random reboots and such and a factory reset seemed to solve the issue, but I'm assuming they had you do that multiple times.
Even if the phone is fresh out of the box, do a factory reset before you use it. It might help, it did for me.
Otherwise check out cm7 or one of the Sense roms around here. Removing all the bloatware actually does wonders for stability. If you really want I can upload a nandroid of my own stock rom with the bloatware removed.
On my 3rd mt4g and I'm about ready to go back to iPhone most androids have to many hardware issues.
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Phateless said:
First of all, nice 'Lude. I just picked up an 07 Civic Si Sedan on Saturday and I ****ing LOVE it!
2nd, are you running stock Sense or rooted? To be perfectly honest I've found the stock Sense to be much more buggy than the cm7 I've been running for the past 3 or 4 months.
My first phone had random reboots and such and a factory reset seemed to solve the issue, but I'm assuming they had you do that multiple times.
Even if the phone is fresh out of the box, do a factory reset before you use it. It might help, it did for me.
Otherwise check out cm7 or one of the Sense roms around here. Removing all the bloatware actually does wonders for stability. If you really want I can upload a nandroid of my own stock rom with the bloatware removed.
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Thank you for your reply.
First of all, yeah.. my Lude is old news. Since then, I've switched to an S2k, but that got stolen. Now I'm in an 06 Evo.
Anyway, back on topic..
The phone is completely stock. This is the FIRST PHONE I've ever owned that I have kept stock - Why? Because I don't want to have to unroot it when I send it in for warranty repairs.
Sfkn2 said:
Thank you for your reply.
First of all, yeah.. my Lude is old news. Since then, I've switched to an S2k, but that got stolen. Now I'm in an 06 Evo.
Anyway, back on topic..
The phone is completely stock. This is the FIRST PHONE I've ever owned that I have kept stock - Why? Because I don't want to have to unroot it when I send it in for warranty repairs.
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Unrooting is as simple as flashing pd15img.zip through hboot. Not that hard.
Definitely try a different rom. As I said I've found cm7 to be much more stable than stock.
Sorry about your car. I never fully got over the 95 GS-R I crashed back in 05. since then I've been driving an ls.
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i got pretty bad luck with my phone. finally got a good one after like 9 exchanges and a month later the power button went out. i called them and they told me i couldnt exchange anymore cause i "had too many problems with the phone." so the rep told me that the only thing they could do left is to exchange my phone for a motorola charm.....i was like wtf why the heck would i want to downgrade my phone, which polly cost more then that piece of **** charm and it doesnt even run android...major downgrade.
Dude. That blows. Hard. I'm sorry to see that you're having so many problems with your phone and I'm glad I don't have the same luck as you. I got mine from eBay and it came in perfect condition. Never had dust under the screen, good screen, no faulty hardware, etc.
But in all seriousness, after 5 phones, I wouldn't keep it. I personally think that it's a great phone, but if I had to take it back 9 times, I'd try something else out. Ask if you can switch. It shouldn't cost you anything as long as the retail price is equivalent or lower than the MyTouch 4g, and if I'm not mistaken, it's one of the higher priced ones (rightfully, so). If you don't hate a keyboard, the G2 might be good for you, but I hear the hinge has problems and knowing your luck, the hinge would break apart upon first use. So maybe the Galaxy S 4g? I know Samsung has great hardware, even if their software is crap, as is their update schedules, but that is easily fixed with custom ROMs.
Either that, or wait and return it completely, if you're still within your return time and keep your upgrade for when the better phones come out, i.e HTC Sensation, etc, and just use something affordable off of eBay or Craigslist. Meh
Just my two cents. Sorry if it didn't help much, but I hope your luck gets better. :/
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My luck has gotten worse. I received another replacement phone on April 15th. A week later, April 22nd, I noticed a dead pixel on my screen.
*Sigh* I have no idea what to do now.
You need to move on to a different device. I've never heard of anyone have so many problems with a device.
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I called in and spoke to technical support. They asked me to bring the phone to a store so that they can fill out a request for warranty exchange form. However, their tone basically implied something like, "It's impossible that you are getting so many broken phones. We need to verify that your phone is really defective before we do another exchange."
I brought it to a store and the retail sales manager had no idea why technical support sent me there, and basically told me to go call customer service again. He did, however, notate that there were a few dead pixels on the screen and that there was no physical, nor was there water damage.
I then called retentions and the supervisor picks up (without any transferring either). I explained to her exactly what happened, and how technical support had sent me into the store. She told me that she has no idea why because they could have filled out the form for warranty exchange over the phone, just like the other exchanges that I have done so far.
She apologized for what happened and said that I qualify for a multiple exchange (sorry if I got the term wrong!). She said that the manufacturer would exchange my Mytouch 4g for a Motorola Charm..
I explained that it would be a MAJOR downgrade. She then submits the form for the exchange and told me that it would be shipped express free of charge.
So you getting another mt4g or the charm? I'm still teipping about them offering you a charm over a mt4g. They are nuts!
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coupetastic-droid said:
So you getting another mt4g or the charm? I'm still teipping about them offering you a charm over a mt4g. They are nuts!
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Another MyTouch4g.. Hopefully the 10th one's the charm!
I've had my Atrix for about 6 months and suffered through the normal issues without complaining (occasional random reboots & lockups, flaky fingerprint scanner, etc).
Recently my fingerprint scanner stopped working completely. In the past I've been able to get it started again by removing the battery, that doesn't help anymore -- it's completely dead. I've see some posts about cleaning the scanner pad, I may have to try that.
Additionally I now have a black spot in my photos and videos. There's apparently some debris under my camera lens; the spot moves around but it's always there.
I called the ATT handset warranty center expecting them to swap it out for a refurb unit; this isn't ideal but better than what I have. Instead here's the answer I got:
Fingerprint Scanner: "Motorola tells us this isn't a warrantable concern, you have alternate methods to unlock your screen". You can call Motorola directly to see if they'll do anything for you.
Debris inside the camera lens: "Oh, that voids your warranty." I advised the lens is a sealed unit and the debris must have been in there since day one. Their argument is that since I just noticed it now (i.e. it just loosened up and moved into an area where it's noticeable) it is not a warrantable concern and by the way it also voids my phone's warranty.
I'm floored by both answers and pretty shocked. The customer service agent was very matter-of-fact and I know she's reciting the company line.
Anbody have a similar experience?
buschman69 said:
I've had my Atrix for about 6 months and suffered through the normal issues without complaining (occasional random reboots & lockups, flaky fingerprint scanner, etc).
Recently my fingerprint scanner stopped working completely. In the past I've been able to get it started again by removing the battery, that doesn't help anymore -- it's completely dead. I've see some posts about cleaning the scanner pad, I may have to try that.
Additionally I now have a black spot in my photos and videos. There's apparently some debris under my camera lens; the spot moves around but it's always there.
I called the ATT handset warranty center expecting them to swap it out for a refurb unit; this isn't ideal but better than what I have. Instead here's the answer I got:
Fingerprint Scanner: "Motorola tells us this isn't a warrantable concern, you have alternate methods to unlock your screen". You can call Motorola directly to see if they'll do anything for you.
Debris inside the camera lens: "Oh, that voids your warranty." I advised the lens is a sealed unit and the debris must have been in there since day one. Their argument is that since I just noticed it now (i.e. it just loosened up and moved into an area where it's noticeable) it is not a warrantable concern and by the way it also voids my phone's warranty.
I'm floored by both answers and pretty shocked. The customer service agent was very matter-of-fact and I know she's reciting the company line.
Anbody have a similar experience?
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I have stuff under my front facing camera ,it looks like dust and it is very noticeable. The camera on the back i can see a smudge that is under the lense. You can see it when you go to take a picture. It was caused when i was at Red Lobster, my dad spilled water on my phone and the water leaked under the glass but now it is all gone and it has left behind dust. I have also been experiencing the screen doing things by itself , uncontrolable movement causing me to have to lock and relock the device for it to become usable again. I called ATT and told them everything and NONE of the water circles that determine water damage have changed colors , they are all white. Att said it would cost 150$ for a new phone. Basiclly with me paying 5$ a month for insurance for my phone and then when i have a problem it costs 150$ for a new one? or even a used one i don't see the point in having insurance !
firefox3 said:
Att said it would cost 150$ for a new phone. Basiclly with me paying 5$ a month for insurance for my phone and then when i have a problem it costs 150$ for a new one? or even a used one i don't see the point in having insurance !
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Not any more. Check with AT&T again. The warranty cost went up a month or so ago, and the deductible for the Atrix is now $199. I think it went up in October if I remember correctly.
yea my fp scanners dead
This is why I don't bother with buying insurance on my phones anymore. Most of the time you're just paying a monthly fee for nothing, and when something does go wrong, you get screwed anyway.
CaelanT said:
Not any more. Check with AT&T again. The warranty cost went up a month or so ago, and the deductible for the Atrix is now $199. I think it went up in October if I remember correctly.
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They just dropped the atrix 4g down to a tier 2 device so the deductible is $125 now according to at&ts website.
I've switched back to my nexus one for now because my atrix was giving me too many issues. 4-5 battery pulls a day because of screen freezes. Touch screen firing erratically, overheating and shutting down, random reboots, wifi unable to connect unless I restart. It occurs regardless of what rom or kernel including stock everything (it started before I started flashing so I actually thought it was stock issues). Debating which course of action to take with it but I don't have insurance and its bootloader unlocked which may or may not cause issues if I go to Motorola (always a case by case basis i suppose)
lostinbeta said:
I've switched back to my nexus one for now because my atrix was giving me too many issues. 4-5 battery pulls a day because of screen freezes. Touch screen firing erratically, overheating and shutting down, random reboots, wifi unable to connect unless I restart. It occurs regardless of what rom or kernel including stock everything (it started before I started flashing so I actually thought it was stock issues).
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I've never had such a thing happen to my phone.
knock wood.
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lostinbeta said:
They just dropped the atrix 4g down to a tier 2 device so the deductible is $125 now according to at&ts website.
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I stand corrected! Funny how they changed the Atrix back after only a couple of weeks. Wonder how many people were stuffed with the $199 in that time period!
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/en_US/pdf/wireless-phone-insurance-deductible-schedule.pdf
CaelanT said:
I stand corrected! Funny how they changed the Atrix back after only a couple of weeks. Wonder how many people were stuffed with the $199 in that time period!
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/en_US/pdf/wireless-phone-insurance-deductible-schedule.pdf
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I still would never pay 125 for a new atrix ! i would rather buy a nexus s ! or save up for a galaxy nexus
firefox3 said:
I still would never pay 125 for a new atrix ! i would rather buy a nexus s ! or save up for a galaxy nexus
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Interesting, but I certainly wouldn't take a rebadged Galaxy S in preference to an Atrix, even if they were released at a similar time!
CaelanT said:
I stand corrected! Funny how they changed the Atrix back after only a couple of weeks. Wonder how many people were stuffed with the $199 in that time period!
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/en_US/pdf/wireless-phone-insurance-deductible-schedule.pdf
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Thanks for linking the document. I only knew the information because a few days prior to reading this thread I was looking up insurance information for a friend of mine and I happened to look down in curiosity to what it would be for the Atrix. I didn't have time to find it and link it when I replied here though.
AT&T is shifty!
just call back in, say you are having constant reboots and force closes, tell them you did a hard reset, still no change, and they should send you out a warranty unit
once they get your unit back, they won't actually use the phone so there's no way to tell there aren't resets [and besides, you will send it to them in a factory reset anyways so it will load up with a blur sign up menu]
firefox3 said:
I still would never pay 125 for a new atrix ! i would rather buy a nexus s ! or save up for a galaxy nexus
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Ya - well hopefully this never happens to me...bet the galaxy nexus can't run my laptop dock and multimedia dock.
I thought it was common knowledge that AT&T sucks. Send your phone to Motorola, they will fix it. AT&T is full of **** saying moto says its not covered by warranty, why would they tell you to contact moto directly then!! AT&T can blow me, they charge for premium and give sub standard.
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Sass86 said:
I thought it was common knowledge that AT&T sucks. Send your phone to Motorola, they will fix it. AT&T is full of **** saying moto says its not covered by warranty, why would they tell you to contact moto directly then!! AT&T can blow me, they charge for premium and give sub standard.
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Motorola will fix my device for free?
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firefox3 said:
Motorola will fix my device for free?
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Depends on if they consider the problems to be fixable under warranty. A lot of companies try to weasel out of it though. If your device has scratches, dents or dings they might try to say you dropped it and that caused the problems. Or if you are bootloader unlocked they can claim you voided your warranty because you may have installed software that jacked up your phones hardware. I don't know how Motorola is with this, and you won't know unless you submit it for warranty repair and find out.
firefox3 said:
Motorola will fix my device for free?
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Sry for the late response. I'm saying I unlocked my bootloader, reflashed stock gingerbread firmware, then sent in my atrix for repair of digitizer and fps for free.
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