So far my transformer has been the hardest device for me to root. I'm not hugely knowledgable with computers but I've managed to root all of my other devices. Some were very easy like my old captivate ans some weren't so easy like my aria or the nexus s I had. I now have an atrix which i managed to root also. But when it comes to the transformer, wow, this thing to me seems to be alot tougher to root.
Maybe its just me, ive never claimed to be very bright but have gotten by with common sense and street knowledge. Neither of which are helping me to root this thing.
I'm not a quitter though, i will keep trying until I either get it rooted or break it trying. Its 3 am here, time for bed. Will post my issues later today and hope for help.
Thanks for your time in reading about my frustrations.
Don
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donharden2002 said:
So far my transformer has been the hardest device for me to root. I'm not hugely knowledgable with computers but I've managed to root all of my other devices. Some were very easy like my old captivate ans some weren't so easy like my aria or the nexus s I had. I now have an atrix which i managed to root also. But when it comes to the transformer, wow, this thing to me seems to be alot tougher to root.
Maybe its just me, ive never claimed to be very bright but have gotten by with common sense and street knowledge. Neither of which are helping me to root this thing.
I'm not a quitter though, i will keep trying until I either get it rooted or break it trying. Its 3 am here, time for bed. Will post my issues later today and hope for help.
Thanks for your time in reading about my frustrations.
Don
Sent from my Transformer TF101
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Did you see this guide (assuming you're on HC 3.1)? It's the only method I know of to root a TF.
[EDIT]: Alternatively, if you're in to installing custom ROMs, you could install this ROM via the nvflash tool. It's not hugely difficult and it'll root your TF in the process.
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Did you see this guide (assuming you're on HC 3.1)? It's the only method I know of to root a TF.
[EDIT]: Alternatively, if you're in to installing custom ROMs, you could install this ROM via the nvflash tool. It's not hugely difficult and it'll root your TF in the process.
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Thank you for the info, greatly appreciated. Going to give it a try as soon as i get home today.
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I wasin the same boat as you yesterday man. But i have lots of pc experience, but have never rooted anything before. After reading several guides and deciding to just leave my tf stock, I stumbled onto the thread that jon posted for you. It was really easy to do, and work exactly the way it was supposed to. Yesterday i rooted, flashed Netformer's kernel, and juiced it up with setcpu. All in one day! These started out being kinda hard to root, but now its pretty straight forward. Good luck!
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I wasin the same boat as you yesterday man. But i have lots of pc experience, but have never rooted anything before. After reading several guides and deciding to just leave my tf stock, I stumbled onto the thread that jon posted for you. It was really easy to do, and work exactly the way it was supposed to. Yesterday i rooted, flashed Netformer's kernel, and juiced it up with setcpu. All in one day! These started out being kinda hard to root, but now its pretty straight forward. Good luck!
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Thanks for your reply. Im starting to realize thru reading some of the posts that windows 7 64bit has some issues with downloading apx drivers. Ive ran in to this issue while trying to use both methods. Ive read that quite a few others are having the same problem. I'm glad its not just me.
But if im wrong about this then hopefully i will get it figured out. Going to try my win vista pc tomorrow and see if that works.
Thanks again for your reply.
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All my machines are Win7 64bit. Not a problem other than needing to reboot after installing the drivers. That was key to fix weird stuff....
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Ok so I've had my hero for a while and I saw all these things about rooting and flashing roms so I decided I'd do it. I used unlockr's amazing videos to root and flash RA heroc 1.2.3. I think this is an old recovery but i'm not sure. I want to flash back to stock and unroot it. I have seen some stuff about RUU(whatever that is) but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do it. From what I've read around here there are alot of smart people working on this and I'm sure someone knows how to do it. To be honest I don't even remember how I rooted it or did it right without messing everything up. Any help with this is much appreciated. Or at least point me in the right direction.
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Ok so I've had my hero for a while and I saw all these things about rooting and flashing roms so I decided I'd do it. I used unlockr's amazing videos to root and flash RA heroc 1.2.3. I think this is an old recovery but i'm not sure. I want to flash back to stock and unroot it. I have seen some stuff about RUU(whatever that is) but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do it. From what I've read around here there are alot of smart people working on this and I'm sure someone knows how to do it. To be honest I don't even remember how I rooted it or did it right without messing everything up. Any help with this is much appreciated. Or at least point me in the right direction.
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Why would you want to go back to stock? o_0
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Why would you want to go back to stock? o_0
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Because he realizes he's in over his head and isn't comfortable. Seems valid to me.
Riggs is half right. I'm in way too deep and the things I see ya'll doin, I don't really need a $500 paper weight. I don't even know what Rom I'm running now. Under phone info it says gumbo 1.5c. I tried to use damagecontrol's but it stuck on the HTC screen several times and that kind of stuff scares me.
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Riggs is half right. I'm in way too deep and the things I see ya'll doin, I don't really need a $500 paper weight. I don't even know what Rom I'm running now. Under phone info it says gumbo 1.5c. I tried to use damagecontrol's but it stuck on the HTC screen several times and that kind of stuff scares me.
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The first time you install a rom it usually takes awhile at first boot(5-10 mins). And if it says "gumbo 1.5c" under phone info then you're running........Gumbo 1.5c. ;x
I don't really need a $500 paper weight
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I understand what you're saying but it's pretty hard to brick these phones. If you flashed a GSM radio yeah. I've read about some crazy issues but the devs and community always work it out. Pretty much though just follow the guides and you're golden.
Props to all of you. I appreciate the work and never get tired of trying new ROMs and themes. I've had this phone for 6 months and I spend enough time with it that my wife hates it!
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When you flashed damagecontrop did you wipe data and dalvik. With most Roms you need to wipe these otherwise you will be stuck in a hour loop. When iI firstvrooted I hag no clue about any of this stuff and I now no more than I thought I would. Basically, I have turned my phone into a hobby. If you are worried about anything, just leave your phone as is and wait till the 2.1 release and use that ruu.
So my learning experience started when I decided to do Ryanza's "unlagfixme". It ran completely fine until it decided to restart itself. Once it restarted, it got to my "S" booting screen and then my screen turned black, and nothing else happened, but my bottom buttons would light up when i touched my screen. So i took the battery out and put it back in and restarted. Same thing over and over.
Here's where it was time to research. Only way i knew about getting to nandroid to do a restore was through rom manager. So after a little research, i found out about booting into recovery with adb (adb reboot recovery). Did that, and clicked reinstall packages, great! got into nandroid and was able to restore.
Then I got the crazy Idea to flash Vibrant6 from Eugene. Did that succesfully through nandroid then wanted a lag fix, so i flashed Ryanza's lag fix again to vibrant6. Phone hosed again! now it would only pop the vibrant screen and hang there. Time to do research again; this time i didnt have nandroid flashed so it was a little more difficult than before.
after hours of research to fix my phone I came across a post of how to use odin step by step. learned to boot into download mode, set up odin, flash...Did that, and odin would hang on cache.rfs, onto more RESEARCH...turns out i could install without a pit and that did the trick. after i was able to flash that ROM i was then able to get rom manager, boot into nandroid and backup my most recent backup (right after installing vibrant6) and then restore all my apps through titanium backup.
I feel today aside from the ****less scares...it has been a blessing day because I have learned: How to boot into recovery with adb, boot into download, use adb, use odin, flash a rom through odin and clockworkmod, restore TB backups, etc. After having the phone a little over 2 weeks and not knowing anything about android, i think these are great improvements and are things i didn't know how to do.
Today has been a great newb learning day. I guess you force yourself to learn things when you most need them huh! All the tools needed are here, more than likely whatever is happening to you has happened to someone else before. Search is your best friend. However, if I can help some of the other newbs to get up to speed, I'd be glad to. We have all been there right?
I'm so happy to be a part of this community!
Congrats, sounds like it was fun and nerve wracking. Having come from a G1, I was a little surprised at how relatively hard it is to flash a new rom to this phone, I guess the G1 spoiled me. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to take the same journey that you've been through at some point, but for now I'm just gonna enjoy it.
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Congrats, sounds like it was fun and nerve wracking. Having come from a G1, I was a little surprised at how relatively hard it is to flash a new rom to this phone, I guess the G1 spoiled me. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to take the same journey that you've been through at some point, but for now I'm just gonna enjoy it.
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Aboslutely, it was both! I loved it so much though because i came out as a winner and learned so much while at it. I enjoy this kind of stuff though, troubleshooting, debugging, etc. Hence being a VB/C# programmer for a living!
What a great post! Glad you were able to learn all that. Yeah, it was forced, but it still all worked out for the best.
Now off, and learn how to MetaMorph, and build your own Themes! :cracks whip:
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What a great post! Glad you were able to learn all that. Yeah, it was forced, but it still all worked out for the best.
Now off, and learn how to MetaMorph, and build your own Themes! :cracks whip:
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hahaha...That sounds like whole different world that I haven't even looked into
Will definitely get on that next!
Without reading your post, I was tempted to be a troll and say "cool story", but I read it and my hat's off to you. Good on you for learning the basics. Keep up the good work!
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Without reading your post, I was tempted to be a troll and say "cool story", but I read it and my hat's off to you. Good on you for learning the basics. Keep up the good work!
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Thanks! I can only look up to some of geniuses in here and hope to be at their level one day!
Thank goodness I did my hours of reading pre scares and I was already in the know on what I had to do to flash back to what I was before and try again, but I def feel for your situation and applaud your using the search feature instead of just making a "help me!" Post like you usually see for a topic that's already been covered....
Btw post final vibrant 6 flash did you ever get your lag fix correctly setup?
Pooped from my Samsung Vibrant using XDA app...
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awesome! forums have been a godsend. Now i can get information from the actual users rather than corporate generalities for whatever question i might have.
Holy twinner batman! I had almost the EXACT SAME EXPERIENCE YESTERDAY! Although I skipped the part about adb and went straight into the ODIN download. THIS is exactly why I will NEVER own a JobsPhone!
Your not a newb anymore. Having gone through all that heart sinking, palm sweating, stomach churning, experiences.
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Thank goodness I did my hours of reading pre scares and I was already in the know on what I had to do to flash back to what I was before and try again, but I def feel for your situation and applaud your using the search feature instead of just making a "help me!" Post like you usually see for a topic that's already been covered....
Btw post final vibrant 6 flash did you ever get your lag fix correctly setup?
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I did not. I tried all three ryanza fixes (update.zip, batch, one-click) and none of them worked for me. Couldn't get the script on modaco to work for me. And everytime i undid the lagfix it crapped my phone out. So i nand'd back to pre lag fix and I'm still debating whether I will backup to stock+lag fix (really liked the snapiness, aside from quadrant scores), or to play with Vibrant6 for a while and see if it is as snappy as stock with the lagfix or better. still debating.
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Your not a newb anymore. Having gone through all that heart sinking, palm sweating, stomach churning, experiences.
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Hahaha there's sooo much to learn about these phones that I feel i will be a newb for a long while yet
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after hours of research to fix my phone I came across a post of how to use odin step by step. learned to boot into download mode, set up odin, flash...
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Where is this post?
I had the same thing happen to me. It sucked, thank god for the support here at xda. You guys made it so easy to fix. Thanks
Im trying to root my iconia a500 using gingerbreak but it isnt working its just stuck on booting and doesnt restart. Can someone help ?? i have the update honeycomb 3.1 is that the problem. I just bought it.
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Im trying to root my iconia a500 using gingerbreak but it isnt working its just stuck on booting and doesnt restart. Can someone help ?? i have the update honeycomb 3.1 is that the problem. I just bought it.
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Look for iconiaroot
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Look for iconiaroot
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What do you mean isn't gingerbreak a root for the iconia or is iconiaroot a program?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
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Thanks I did not have time to search for the link, I was out and about.
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Yeah, they should sticky the iconiaroot thread as that is by far the easiest root method I've seen on any Android device I've ever owned.
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Yeah, they should sticky the iconiaroot thread as that is by far the easiest root method I've seen on any Android device I've ever owned.
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There's a stickied "rollup" thread which has a link to the various rooting methods. All people have to do is read it.
Eh, I found the Iconiaroot thread before the roolup thread was started, so never even noticed it. Honestly, I never saw the rollup thread until you mentioned.
It's not like it's hard to find... It's the first sticky in the dev forum...
Make sure that the external SD is mounted and visible.
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Black Screen of Death or root issue?
so im new to this whole root thing and i have to say im never doing it again,ive searched for 3 hours trying to figure out how to do it but wound up like a dog chasing his tail but in anycase this is my issue, i tried to do what someone said and put a zip file on my sd card and update it from the recovery menu,so i did the exact thing it said and the software was apparantly for my phone so i didnt think anythoung bad can happen if something didnt work....well turns out while updating it failed,shut off now when i press the power button the touch buttons go on and the light for the screen goes on but there is no image or function,my laptop wont recognize it,i did the battery pull probably thousands of times and everything else ive read and nothing works...so wtf do i do because this is some really frustrating ****...btw i also have a phone no one apparantly heard of its the huawei u8651t..any advice as to what i possibly can do would be appreciated,if nothing can be done then i have something to blow up with an m-80
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so im new to this whole root thing and i have to say im never doing it again,ive searched for 3 hours trying to figure out how to do it but wound up like a dog chasing his tail but in anycase this is my issue, i tried to do what someone said and put a zip file on my sd card and update it from the recovery menu,so i did the exact thing it said and the software was apparantly for my phone so i didnt think anythoung bad can happen if something didnt work....well turns out while updating it failed,shut off now when i press the power button the touch buttons go on and the light for the screen goes on but there is no image or function,my laptop wont recognize it,i did the battery pull probably thousands of times and everything else ive read and nothing works...so wtf do i do because this is some really frustrating ****...btw i also have a phone no one apparantly heard of its the huawei u8651t..any advice as to what i possibly can do would be appreciated,if nothing can be done then i have something to blow up with an m-80
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Well, honestly, I have no idea what type of device you are messing with. You reference a phone all the time, and this is the Iconia A500 Tablet forum. I suppose you are messing with the Huawei? If so, you won't be able to find much help here.
It would be better if you posted in the proper forum if possible, or look at this thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698905
Unfortunately, there is not a dedicated forum for your device, the the Android General Q&A may be your only option.
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It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
First, wrong section; you should know better by now.
Second, just because Acer have made it a bugger to root, doesn't mean the tablet is dead. It's absolutely useable without being rooted, and 99% of consumers don't actually give a monkeys about rooting, or even know what it actually is.
Hell, we get plenty of people on here asking what it is or what it's for...
New iconia is scheduled for Dec release but may get pushed back to january.
Interesting, you are posing that on XDA. We dont believe in Impossible to Root device. That is why people come to XDA; How to break what seem unbreakable or unlock what seem unlock-able. Just give some time, some genius will always find a way to kick some Corporate teeth in.
well wasnt it acer excuse not unlock the bootloader since honeycomb was not open source. I think that was one of their statements, so once we get updated to ICS maybe we all can start with a tweet assault on them again.
Not sure about u guys but I feel more comfortable recommending the xoom or asus tab just cause they are so open, same goes for those nook colors.
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It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
Seriously? Near impossible to root? This guy must be slow, because this was just insanely easy... been rooted for months and tried nearly every rom at least once, all easy as pie.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
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Same thing with the original mytouch. I had to use a gold card and there were no less than 3 times during the process that i thought i had bricked it. i may be permanently scarred.
There have been many times i have rooted other devices including the iconia that i went searching for more steps because it was too easy.
ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
ne too lol i was like...all i did was install an app, go to recovery, and flash rom ( give or take a few steps) and i did that the day i got it (sept 2011) and it took a few a mins, this thread confused the heck outta me lol
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ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
lanisan said:
Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When you learn to find it and come and post it here? It's pretty well documented, and other than the crap threads that get posted in here like this one, pretty well organized.
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136 right here it is 3hreadsown from this one. Giggles even a blonde can find it
This is inbwrong thread sorry for my post all
I rooted my tablet right after I got it in May. Then when the 3.2 update came out, I went back to stock unrooted and ran that way until this morning when I realized I wanted to change my navigation buttons. Downgraded, rooted, installed CWM and flashed the rooted stock 3.2 and was back in business in like 20 minutes maybe. Would've been done quicker, but I had to pause to make some more coffee. Didn't even lose any of my data or apps. I don't know how you measure easy, but by my measure, its a cake walk. A cake walk where you actually win cake, instead of awkwardly shuffling around in a circle with strangers thinking that if you win it might all be worth it, only to have some snot nosed little turd walk away with the very cake you wanted, and you go home and weep gently into your pillow because you never win, and no one ever seems to see that all you want is to be loved, oh God, why can't someone just love you...sorry I digress.
lol i rooted mine like the first 15 minutes that it was out of the box. I don't like not overclocking
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It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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And this thread belongs in the DEV area.
Mods must be on Thanksgiving break already
Back to the OT! Did Acer Kill the Iconia?
Here it is.... Plain and simple.... Acer is killing the the Iconia since they are taking their time to produce good accessories for it. Also, what were they thinking in giving the power adapter such a short cord?
Other than that.... I love my A500, and would not mind upgrading to a the Tegra3 version.
I know im rehashing allot of stuff already said and I apologize for that. But dev information can be overwhelming when you come late to the game like im doing now, just trying to sort this out in my head before my Fire arrives tomorrow. Not new to android, rooted and romed plenty of Android phones including a G2 so I know my way around the basics like adb and the like. I've just never seen so much talk about bricking as im seeing around these fire forums.
From everything im reading it seems pretty straight forward, you use KFU to root (should you perm root or temp at this point or does it matter?), flash FFF, then flash TWRP, and then just flash whatever rom you want, right? Is there something im missing, do kindles just randomly brick while doing this or do you have to do something wrong? Also, it sounds like the way FFF works as long as you have that flashed and you don't dink around with bootloader it should be impossible to brick no? And assuming this is true why doesn't everyone just flash FFF and be done with it, are there any drawbacks to running it?
Guess im just trying to figure out if these things are brick machines or are there just allot of new android folks around this device that aren't following the steps properly? I suppose I better make a factory cable just in case lol
Thanks for reading, any help you can give a Fire newb would be appreciated!
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I know im rehashing allot of stuff already said and I apologize for that. But dev information can be overwhelming when you come late to the game like im doing now, just trying to sort this out in my head before my Fire arrives tomorrow. Not new to android, rooted and romed plenty of Android phones including a G2 so I know my way around the basics like adb and the like. I've just never seen so much talk about bricking as im seeing around these fire forums.
From everything im reading it seems pretty straight forward, you use KFU to root (should you perm root or temp at this point or does it matter?), flash FFF, then flash TWRP, and then just flash whatever rom you want, right? Is there something im missing, do kindles just randomly brick while doing this or do you have to do something wrong? Also, it sounds like the way FFF works as long as you have that flashed and you don't dink around with bootloader it should be impossible to brick no? And assuming this is true why doesn't everyone just flash FFF and be done with it, are there any drawbacks to running it?
Guess im just trying to figure out if these things are brick machines or are there just allot of new android folks around this device that aren't following the steps properly? I suppose I better make a factory cable just in case lol
Thanks for reading, any help you can give a Fire newb would be appreciated!
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No, they are actually pretty difficult to brick. A lot of the "brick" threads here are usually one of two things.
1) Users who can't get their devices to boot normally because they don't know how to change the bootmode.
2) KFU stops mid-way through some process and they are not familiar with the tools to reverse or finish the process.
By the sound of your post, you are ahead of the game and KFU will probably get in the way of where you want to go. You don't even have to root the KF if you are just going to flash a ROM. I suggest you skim this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
Post #2 will get your drivers installed and the bottom of post #3 has step-by-step directions on how to get your device ready to flash a ROM. I think that's all you're going to need.
EDIT: I forgot to answer your FFF question. Yes, if you have an intact FFF bootloader, you should always have a solid base from which to rebuild your system. You could basically wipe everything else out... as long as you have FFF, you can recover without having to do anything drastic. The only drawback I can think of is that it takes a little while longer to boot because it pauses for about 4 seconds while it temporarily gives you access to fastboot mode. IMHO, this is actually a huge plus because it means you can always get access to fastboot mode without a factory cable, so it's definitely worth the tradeoff.
Like said already, they aren't easy to brick.
What is a pain in the ass is getting the computer to recognize it correctly sometimes.
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No, they are not very easy to brick. Most of the "bricks" are not permanent and quite easy to fix if you have some ideas of what is wrong and the methods of fixing it.
To actually brick it permanently so that there is no way to fix it without proper hardware tools is very hard and I believe that is very uncommon if you follow instructions and do everything with care.
Here's my very own anecdote of a false-brick panick:
It was my first day with a shining brand new kindle. I read on xda that KFU was the easiest way to get into the world of custom roms. So I downloaded it, followed the steps exactly and ended up with a kindle which won't boot. I was lost. I didn't know what went wrong, as is usually the case with such scenarios.
After a few hours of head-screatching and crash-coursing through these threads, I finally figured out the problem. KFU attempted to flash TWRP which was not properly downloaded. I think my internet connection must have dopped. But KFU thought the download was done and proceeded to flash anyway and long story short, I lost a precious few hours of my life but did gain heaps of experience in the process.
Lucky for me, FFF had been flashed earlier and I was able to recover my lovely kindle.
Moral: xda rocks! (may not be obvious from the story, but it's true)
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I've managed to permanently brick my device once but that was out of sheer stupidity and messing with partitions I didn't have any business messing with.
I'm not sure if it's failure to pay attention or some people don't want to take the time to learn what they are doing before doing it, but it simply amazes me how many people can't grasp the basics of how the Kindle Fire/Android works, even with one of the most comprehensive and easy to understand beginners guide I've seen.
As long as you understand that when adb/fastboot doesn't connect it's a driver issue, and you have a good understanding of the different bootmodes, with a little research you can fix 99.99999999% of the problems you'll encounter on the Kindle Fire.
Most of the problems you'll see are from Windows users (imagine that) because of Windows' lack of a good system for dealing with device drivers. And most of the rest are from just plain ignorance, refusal to learn, and trying to take the easy way out.
If you have problem, chances are 250 other people have had the same problem and a simple search will usually get you the answer you need. And while XDA's search function has a lot to be desired, Google's search function works quite well and should definitely be put to use. You'll be amazed by what you'll find just by putting "site:forum.xda-developers.com kindle fire" in front of your search criteria.
Thanks guys, you pretty much confirmed what I was thinking.
And thanks kinfauns, I did read your guide but totally missed post 3, that's pretty much all the info I need. I would much rather use ADB when the steps are that easy. I remember when the devs first got s-off on the G2 and the ADB/Terminal emulator steps and this looks allot more straightforward lol.
Just wanted to update to say that I got my Fire and got it rom'd. Nothing to it, kinfauns guide made it incredibly easy. If you can read you can root a Fire
Thanks again kinfauns!
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If you can read you can root a Fire
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Such a simple concept, yet it alludes so many.
ha
Not gonna lie, it is kinda funny to watch so many people freak out...but I guess I was there once too.
ive rooted 5 kindles now.
3 of my own, as i had to return 2 because of a ghosting issues apparently from a bad batch that got out. Note to self (and by proxy, others), buy your kindle from Amazon instead of a 3rd party store. At least Amazon has great customer server.
was very easy, never had a single issue. Even returning them back to stock.