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I installed unrevoked 3 to root my phone and then downloaded Rom Manager. Rom Manager wants to install ClockworkMod Recovery, but it already got installed with unrevoked. Should I let it reinstall it? Is there any reason for me to use Rom Manager on my phone if I have unrevoked 3 rooting?
Unrevoked 3 gives you clockworkmod so you can flash a new ROM. After flashing a Rom, clockwork goes away. ROM Manager gives you access to clockwork at all times. Also, you can download and flash CM6 from it. I shouldn't even have to mention the fact that it keeps track of all your nandoid back-ups. So really, how many times will you be changing ROMs, and how many back-ups will you have? If you flash ROMs alot, keep ROM Manager. Otherwise, you might not need it.
Hope it helps ~ Pete
PiratePetey said:
Unrevoked 3 gives you clockworkmod so you can flash a new ROM. After flashing a Rom, clockwork goes away. ROM Manager gives you access to clockwork at all times. Also, you can download and flash CM6 from it. I shouldn't even have to mention the fact that it keeps track of all your nandoid back-ups. So really, how many times will you be changing ROMs, and how many back-ups will you have? If you flash ROMs alot, keep ROM Manager. Otherwise, you might not need it.
Hope it helps ~ Pete
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Clockwork does not "go away" after flashing with Unrevoked once you've flashed a ROM. It replaces stock recovery.
Yea, I actually agree because I just used Clockworkmod to flash CM6 without using RomManager at all. I even made my backup with Clockworkmod - not RomManager. I fail to see why I need RomManager at all and again I'm looking for advice as to what it does that I can't do with clockworkmod directly (backup, flash rom, unmount, etc.)
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echodun said:
I installed unrevoked 3 to root my phone and then downloaded Rom Manager. Rom Manager wants to install ClockworkMod Recovery, but it already got installed with unrevoked. Should I let it reinstall it? Is there any reason for me to use Rom Manager on my phone if I have unrevoked 3 rooting?
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This reflects my opinion only:
I installed ROM manager, and yes it does have some pretty cool features that can be run from a single screen. Like you, I noticed that it immediately wanted to install clockwork Mod, the exact same version I was already running. I noticed after installing it that it also self installed multiple files and folders. My concern is purely from a security perspective. The icon for the app itself speaks volumes to me! After uninstalling it, I noticed that several files and a folder with an app called download.apk remained on the phone. Along with several other files and folders in the clockwork folder.
Personally, I would be very reluctant to make any credit card purchases or do any smartphone banking after installing this app. I re-rooted and re-flashed my ROM, including re-formatting the SD partition and extended partition, all cache, and wiped the phone to make sure I eliminated every element of ROM manager.
I have found that I can do almost everything through ClockworkMod, but I have to manually download anything I want to flash first.
Again, this reflects my opinion and preferences.
echodun said:
Yea, I actually agree because I just used Clockworkmod to flash CM6 without using RomManager at all. I even made my backup with Clockworkmod - not RomManager. I fail to see why I need RomManager at all and again I'm looking for advice as to what it does that I can't do with clockworkmod directly (backup, flash rom, unmount, etc.)
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Theres nothing you can do with rom manager that you can't do manually with clockwork or terminal emulator. Clockwork just makes doing those things more convenient. I always flash roms and do nandroids via clockwork and I don't use the other features enough to make rom manager useful for me.
I only use ROM Manager for the fix permissions option.
i also think you can rename your backups with ROM Manager, but i still dont use it.
How would we do this otherwise? If i remember correctly, its not as simple as renaming the folder
It doesn't even give me the option to uninstall from the GUI. Did you have to remove it via command line or is there a better way?
Typing fix_permissions into terminal emulator will rum fix permissions.
dexmix said:
i also think you can rename your backups with ROM Manager, but i still dont use it.
How would we do this otherwise? If i remember correctly, its not as simple as renaming the folder
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You can mount your sd card as storage and rename then with your computer. You can also do it via astro or some other file manager on your phone.
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It doesn't even give me the option to uninstall from the GUI. Did you have to remove it via command line or is there a better way?
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What I do is delete the apps I don't want before I install the rom. Just unzip it, go into the apps folder and delete the apps you don't want and then rezip it all. You can do this on your computer our with astro. Otherwise you have to use cmd prompts.
What I do is delete the apps I don't want before I install the rom. Just unzip it, go into the apps folder and delete the apps you don't want and then rezip it all. You can do this on your computer our with astro. Otherwise you have to use cmd prompts.
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Righto, thanks.
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What I do is delete the apps I don't want before I install the rom. Just unzip it, go into the apps folder and delete the apps you don't want and then rezip it all. You can do this on your computer our with astro. Otherwise you have to use cmd prompts.
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Nice! If I'd have known it was that easy, I would have been doing that all along. So will this work both ways, could I just as easily add an APK that I wanted?
armyengineer51 said:
Nice! If I'd have known it was that easy, I would have been doing that all along. So will this work both ways, could I just as easily add an APK that I wanted?
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Yep you just paste the .apk's into the /system/app folder before you re-zip the rom. I have a couple apps that I add before I install a rom.
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Yep you just paste the .apk's into the /system/app folder before you re-zip the rom. I have a couple apps that I add before I install a rom.
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Fan-freakin-tastic, thanks for that little tidbit!
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This is very easy now after having the permanent ROOT -- thanks to PAUL for wonderful Visionary+, Evostance for brilliant guide, and those geniuses who make this happened (you know who )
First you need to get permanent root. Here is the link to the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834427
(If you read till page 10, you will definitely know how to do it and what to expect).
Second, go buy ROOT EXPLORER from the market. (Best explorer for rooted phone period).
Go to /system/customize/resource
Make sure you enable the r/w (read write option), other wise you cant do modification.
You will see both the audio and bootanimation there.
If you hated that sound (just like me), just delete the audio.mp3. If you want to change the bootanimation, just copy your bootnimation.zip to overwrite the default one.
That's all....reboot the phone....and you will have your peace...and enjoy the new bootanimation.
kuailan said:
I am just wondering is the good old way of adb pushing the bootanimation.zip work for HD? I do noticed the stock animation are located in /customize/resource folder in the system ROM. Has anyone try changing the bootanimation? Just hated those sound in bootup (prefer no sound).
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firstly i'd like to state, this is development and not Q & A not being mean just stating.
secondly if you had read the ref guide which is pinned to the top you might have got your answer.
finally your answer...
NO
you can not write on the nand with the temp root. no can you adb push.
permanent root is on its way and i believe the nand will be unlocked on that so you may have write permissions. once this has been obtained then you can push a custom boot animation if required.
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firstly i'd like to state, this is development and not Q & A not being mean just stating.
secondly if you had read the ref guide which is pinned to the top you might have got your answer.
finally your answer...
NO
you can not write on the nand with the temp root. no can you adb push.
permanent root is on its way and i believe the nand will be unlocked on that so you may have write permissions. once this has been obtained then you can push a custom boot animation if required.
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First of all thank you for the answer (actually I also thought so, and your answer just confirmed that)
And as for posting in develeopment, I DO believe that changing bootanimation is part of Android development (anything that involved creating/modifying and changing of the default system files). Just like recovery or flashing tools, people also develop bootanimation changer application to make life easier for others.
Also I did some search, and this is the first post for any bootanimation for Desire HD. I hope once "root" has been accomplished. People can just use this thread to put the guide to changing those animation.
Therefore I do read and follow the guidelines.
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kuailan said:
First of all thank you for the answer (actually I also thought so, and your answer just confirmed that)
And as for posting in develeopment, I DO believe that changing bootanimation is part of Android development (anything that involved creating/modifying and changing of the default system files). Just like recovery or flashing tools, people also develop bootanimation changer application to make life easier for others.
Also I did some search, and this is the first post for any bootanimation for Desire HD. I hope once "root" has been accomplished. People can just use this thread to put the guide to changing those animation.
Therefore I do read and follow the guidelines.
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well glad you're a happy bunny
but several things,it isn't development as you were asking a question at time of writing.
secondly themes section deals with bootanimation and things like that. sound can be disabled by just renaming the file i.e. add a .bak after mp3 just for back up purpose or you can delete the file entirely up to the user.
with customs roms, they may be in a different location. i do believe that AOSP builds are located in media where as in sense builds /customize/resource
it can change depending on the developers choice really. thats why when a person releases a theme, it states what rom the user must be using to avoid problems.
anyways there's no need to carry on with that as you have got what you wanted, full root so you can do w.e. you like know
my personal favourite boot animation was the original hero one, but since that doesnt work anymore/havent found 1 that has been converted to work with the new roms, i like "making fro-yo" it just draws a pic of a frozen yoghert and colours it in.
I purchased Bootanimation changer by Andres Schomis a while back when I was still using the original Desire. There are quite a few nice and interesting ones there. My fav so far is the pissing droid (to piss off some of my iphone mate ) and the alienware. I am sure they are also available in this forum (just do a search). There is no option for desire HD yet, but seem like the one that work for Desire also work just fine in HD. To make the app work, you will need to set the custom path. I highly recommend that app for bootanimation.
Somehow I feel this thread should be in the Themes/Apps subforum instead Since it basically has to do with customization. Anyway, thanks a lot for the instructions.
phunkycow said:
Somehow I feel this thread should be in the Themes/Apps subforum instead Since it basically has to do with customization. Anyway, thanks a lot for the instructions.
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Agreed with you there mate
I do like the instructions, always helpful for those not browsing the development threads (which do take up a lot of reading time )
Ok can some one tell me what i'm i doing wrong?? it's been more then 6 hours since I started working on this.
Here is my anamtion
Download me please
I cant figure out whats wrong with it....
I even saved it as store with winrar even tried copying the files inside the HTC stock zip and still same problem
can someone help me please?
Bump any one can help?
Just delete the bootanimation.zip inside the /system/customize/resource
Then just copy your animation to the same path /system/customize/resource.
Make sure your animation is also named bootanimation.zip
For some reason I'm not able to enable the r/w function in the resource folder. The only place I can do it is in the root directory (with system, sdcard etc). Any idea of why this is happening? (my phone is perma-rooted and I have granted Super user permissions).
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Just delete the bootanimation.zip inside the /system/customize/resource
Then just copy your animation to the same path /system/customize/resource.
Make sure your animation is also named bootanimation.zip
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I did my animation that made with Photoshop dont work any idea why? any other animation works fine
Sylpher said:
For some reason I'm not able to enable the r/w function in the resource folder. The only place I can do it is in the root directory (with system, sdcard etc). Any idea of why this is happening? (my phone is perma-rooted and I have granted Super user permissions).
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This drove me mad for a while too.
I uninstalled root explorer then re-installed and I could the select r/w for all folders.
hi
do i need s-off for this or is just permanent root enough??
thnx
anyone got any good animation zips and sounds?
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anyone got any good animation zips and sounds?
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yeah, thats what i wanna know too
Does anyone know what would happen if you removed the boot animation entirely? Will the phone still boot ok?
I'm happy not to have one at all if it speeds things up
Guys
first I didn't find the bootanimation in system ressource i found it in data/local/
along with the android-audio.mp3
second I tried to change these file it worked but the animation doesn't show up and I have just a small android when I boot up
What can I do ?
PS : my file may be too big 27 megabite for the bootanimation.zip
I tried already, but why whenever I reboot, the bootanimation.zip would revert to the original one?
As someone who came from a Nexus One, I prefer to flash on the go. I usually take a Zip I have on my phone with ua_redbend in it, edit the update script on the go and drop the appropriate Modem.bin or zImage into it. But for those who haven't done this on the go, all you'll have to do is unpack the tar file most people upload, drop it in the respective ZIP file below using an appropriate program on your phone (unrar, astrozip, astro file manager for a few) and use Clockwork to flash on the go...
Of course, I am not liable for any misflashing that may occur, I just thought that this would help out on the go...
The folder to drop your respective file into will be the kernel_update folder.
Enjoy guys! And flash on the go Go GO!
Edit: Works as well with Infuse. It saved my Bacon when making my 1.0 Infusion so that I could reupload it quickly.
I just download the files to my computer that are flashable with clock and copy them all onto my sd and flash while i drive lol
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That works too. I just thought that everyone would love to have these.... I love being able to flash anything anytime without sitting down at my computer.
Thanks bedwa, ive been looking for a method like this! All I ever really have to use my ext. Sd for is priority files and a handful of things for post-flash care such as my ever-so-loved launcher 2 apk, setiron's kernel, and a few others so when I help someone flash I put my sd in there phone and install the basics.
So I just drop zimage in w/ no edit?
I appreciate it. Thanks.
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Flash a z4 kernel and you are kind of stuffed lol. Well it's more of a nandroid and ROMs on the internal SD on my side of the world.
tiger4j said:
Thanks bedwa, ive been looking for a method like this! All I ever really have to use my ext. Sd for is priority files and a handful of things for post-flash care such as my ever-so-loved launcher 2 apk, setiron's kernel, and a few others so when I help someone flash I put my sd in there phone and install the basics.
So I just drop zimage in w/ no edit?
I appreciate it. Thanks.
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Download the respective zip and drop it in the "kernel_update" folder in the zip. No other work needed..... I just wanted to make it quicker for others to do this on the go....
so is there a way for this method to restore my captivate back to JF6? i'm on a mac and don't have access to windows all the time, so one click back to JF6 isn't a common option for me
Thats a bit trickier.... I would assume that you could redbend the whole thing, but you would need ALL the partitions and all the proper locations. Though it may be easier with hiemdal.....
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so is there a way for this method to restore my captivate back to JF6? i'm on a mac and don't have access to windows all the time, so one click back to JF6 isn't a common option for me
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Idk about JF6 but I've been using the stock OTA UCJH7 as my jump-off for flashing ROMs. I always do it through CWR and (as long as I remember to disable lagfixes) I've never had a problem.
Made my phone a damn good brick by forgetting to disable the lagfix and trying to flash back to stock, but as long as you're not as dumb as me you shouldn't have a problem.
When I first got the phone I spent hours trying to get my computer to recognize it in download mode before eventually coming to the conclusion that I was having hardware problems in my USB ports. I've only ever used Odin to go to stock *once* and I did it on a friend's laptop. So, figure that you and I have about the same access to Odin. I feel pretty confident with this on-the-go method of returning to stock and flashing.
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Also, now that I think about it, you can probably find a stock JF6 update.zip to be used with CWR. You may even find it somewhere linked to that thread that I posted.
This seems very interesting.
I came from the HTC Legend background and i was always flashing on the go then. I bricked the Cappy when i tried flashing on the go (as i was so used to on the legend).
However, looking at your files, i really have NO IDEA how to use this.
Could you post a step by step guide as to how to use this?
Would be great if you could dummy proof this so users like me won't mis-flash.
At the moment, i'm looking at your files, and i have no idea what order of flashing should another custom rom be.
However, i can only assume that these files are flashed BEFORE the custom ROM?
As in -> recovery -> Kernel & modem -> Custom Rom.
In this order?
These aren't flashable update.zips they're just guts to insert into a pre-made update.zip.
As far as on-the-go flashing with a Captivate... it's the only way to fly ;D
Still confused on how to use this
so the kernel is the zimage file in the update folder, is that correct? and the modem is the modem.bin? those are the files I would need to replace
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Still confused on how to use this
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I think I've got it. So i drop the zimage inside the kernel_update folder and leave the redband thing?
I would very much like to try this but am a bit confuzzled Can I download and flash or do I have to do some adding and things. I"m under the impression that I have to mod some more after I download these... would be quite nice to have these w/ the stock zimage or whatever already in the zip...that's just me..mostly because I'm at work and would really like to reflash a rom right now.
Someone please post a step-by-step guide to using this please...
Am confused and without help right now...
Thanks
i agree a step by step would be great
+1 for a step by step!!!
hi, im rooted and running cm7 but wanting to flash this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036996
but from what i've read this has a custom boot screen,
can someone please link me or upload the zip with the standard nexus s bootanimation so i can go back to that?
thanks
Idk if you still need it, but here you go:
http://www.mediafire.com/?7vm63bexn95u5z1
Do you need help flashing it? Cause it wont work if you just try flashing from the SD card. You need to move it to the media folder first and flash from there. OR if you wanted to use a third party software try: Boot Animation Changer LITE. Download it from market, open, allow super-user permission, select Advanced Settings, select backup animation, close. Mount USB and place bootanimation in "BootanimStock" folder, it should then ask if you want overwrite, yes. Unmount USB, enter BAC app, advanced settings, restore stock animation. And that should do it. Remember ALLWAYS Backup!!!
lol I know it seems kinda counter intuitive but its the only way i could get the free app to work correctly.
**Note I haven't tried this bootanimation myself yet, so sorry if its the incorrect one
Hey guys.
First of all, sorry if this has been asked before. I googled a lot and searched here and couldn't find this particular problem.
My Nexus 4 is running stock 4.2. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and running ClockworkMod 6.0.1.9. Everything worked perfectly. My only problem right now is, after making a nandroid backup, I cannot see the clockworkmod folder anywhere on the phone when browsing either in windows or with ES File Explorer. I think by now I looked everywhere. Everything else in this regard seems to work fine, I can copy files, the other folders are all correct etc. I can also see and delete/restore the backup in CWM recovery. All I want is to see the folder to get it off the phone. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
You can find it in mnt/shell/emulated it is protected so you will need a file explorer that can give you root access. I use ES File Explorer.
Found it. Thank you very much.
Its also in /data/media/clockworkmod for whatever reason, hope this gets fixed soon.
Is there any way to copy those CWM backup folders to your computer? I tried to use Root Explorer to move the backup folders to the main sdcard/0 folder but I still cannot see it when I move the file Am I doing something wrong or is it not possible to move it to the sdcard/0?
Yeah I'm also still not too sure how to get it off the phone easily.
Chill4xed said:
Yeah I'm also still not too sure how to get it off the phone easily.
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easiest way would probably be to just use the toolkit, unless you're opposed to such things.
Is this why ROM manager can't delte my backups? It seems them but I get an error saying "there was an error deleting your backup"
Edit: new update fixes this issue with ROM manager
man we need to get it move to a pc. i'd like to save some space since its our phone have maximum 12.9gb at our disposal.
btw, i tried Root Browser Lite to move it on sdcard area... operation failed
I had the same problem. My internal SD card just kept getting fuller and fuller with ClockwordMod. And, when I tried to copy the files from /mnt/shell/emulated/clockwork to my comp, and copy them back to the SD card to try and Restore, I ended up with corrupted files.
So, rather than fight it, I decided to wait until Clockwordmod recovery got its storage/mount point issues straightened out, and moved to the TWRP side of things. That has been seamless (once I got used to it).
I hope that they soon figure out the Clockwordmod issues; I liked having ROM Manager installed on past phones.
Btw, as an aside that is a little related, why, pray tell, are there so many mount points for the SD card? It's just weird.
just navigate the clockwordmod folder in your phone and copy it to the root of the internal memory.. connect the phone via usb into the computer and copy it
BY FAR, the easiest way is:
Chill4xed said:
My Nexus 4 is running stock 4.2. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and running ClockworkMod 6.0.1.9. Everything worked perfectly. My only problem right now is, after making a nandroid backup, I cannot see the clockworkmod folder anywhere on the phone when browsing either in windows or with ES File Explorer. I think by now I looked everywhere. Everything else in this regard seems to work fine, I can copy files, the other folders are all correct etc. I can also see and delete/restore the backup in CWM recovery. All I want is to see the folder to get it off the phone. Any ideas?
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BY FAR the easiest way: in ROM Manager, Manage and Restore Backups>Download Backups>Open your desktop browser on the address informed by ROM Manager to download your backup.
Thanks to everyone, going to the directories works and the rom manager app is aware of the new cwm backup folder.