Sorry for being a noob here. I'm new to Android, and I just want to check that, is there no way to back up everything (like iTunes for iPad) unless the Tf is rooted?
I understand that titanium backup is the most recommended. Does the Tf need to be rooted for the restore to work too?
I honestly would rather not go through the trouble of rooting/unrooting, if I can forever avoid it. I just want to back things up like I did on my iPad. Any help will be appreaciated.
Unless you are going to copy your sd card/ removable device with windows explorer or some other type of file manager...not sure about Mac or Linux..there really is no way to back up without being rooted. Titanium does need root and doing a nandroid backup also requires root. In order to restore...you need to use these items to backup first...and this again requires root then you can restore.
Thank you for confirming. This is a big FAILED on Android. There is a reason why Apple stock is at an all time high.
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Thank you for confirming. This is a big FAILED on Android. There is a reason why Apple stock is at an all time high.
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I think you can backup the device through nvflash without root, although this will back up whole partitions, not individual applications/files. I'm not sure what format the .img files are, but you *might* be able to manipulate them to extract individual goodies, but I haven't tried it yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129308
File Expert app has a Backup option in it that will backup all your installed apps, basically just the APK files to reinstall them which for me is plenty, cause I can just manually backup any extra things I might have such as pics or videos.
you can use mybackuppro without root and backup your apps and data including contacts and pictures etc. to sdcard or to the cloud.
you can use Astro to back up apps as apk files as well.
you can connect your Asus to your pc via usb and copy the entire contents to your hardrive.
Hmm apple is much much worse it was a PITA to root. Then its locked down where I have to boot it from a PC everytime or its not rooted any more.
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Hmm apple is much much worse it was a PITA to root. Then its locked down where I have to boot it from a PC everytime or its not rooted any more.
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The point is, you don't need to jailbreak (root) the iOS. Backup works natively on stock iPhone, iPad and iPod. iTunes may not be your favourite app, but it backs up the devices COMPLETELY. That is, when you buy a brand new device, connect to iTunes, and select restore from a backup... Voila! You new device now looks exactly as the old one, with all the personal info, music, movies, apps, games level, app settings transferred.
@CarsnGadgets - if I connect my Tf to pc via usb and copy the entire content over, how do I restore it? Say, if I lose my Tf and buy another one, can I copy the backup over to overwrite the entire content of the new Tf? (I doubt that)
An Android tablet is a whole Google experience product. Therefore, you should already have a gmail account. I mean, whats the point of owning an android product without gmail. Ok, once you set up your new tablet, you log into all google related products. That said, your email, location services, maps saves, buzz etc is synced to your new tablet. As I understand it, when you to the market, and search for an app you already had, the market knows that and allows a re-download and install, even for purchased apps.
If you wanted to "back-up" anything, you could do a file explorer view of the contents of the transformer, and copy the whole thing over to your PC in a folder once in a while. Thats about it.
I would gladly do all this "extra work" compared to being tied down to a Pc with an apple product, which you cannot even use out of the box until it's synced to itunes, What a load of crap.
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The point is, you don't need to jailbreak (root) the iOS. Backup works natively on stock iPhone, iPad and iPod. iTunes may not be your favourite app, but it backs up the devices COMPLETELY. That is, when you buy a brand new device, connect to iTunes, and select restore from a backup... Voila! You new device now looks exactly as the old one, with all the personal info, music, movies, apps, games level, app settings transferred.
@CarsnGadgets - if I connect my Tf to pc via usb and copy the entire content over, how do I restore it? Say, if I lose my Tf and buy another one, can I copy the backup over to overwrite the entire content of the new Tf? (I doubt that)
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The nvflash method that I linked to will do the backup/restore. i think it's fairly experimental, so no easy app with a flashy GUI.
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An Android tablet is a whole Google experience product. Therefore, you should already have a gmail account. I mean, whats the point of owning an android product without gmail. Ok, once you set up your new tablet, you log into all google related products. That said, your email, location services, maps saves, buzz etc is synced to your new tablet. As I understand it, when you to the market, and search for an app you already had, the market knows that and allows a re-download and install, even for purchased apps.
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...eh... what about the most important part like your in-app data (game data, app setting)? please correct me if I am wrong, but based on the responses from others, and what I read from other websites, I believe it is not possible to back up that unless rooted.
Game data, correct; you cannot back that up to your gmail account. That would not get backed up without rooted backup programs. Still, I'd rather restart Angry birds, having known I didnt have to buy it like the iguys do. That is, if you do not want to root(which is very easy now, for any version of honeycomb). Being able to customize something completely requires some effort. This platform is not for someone who just wants a "perfectly easy user experience". But hey, with effort, comes reward. Like an actual memory slot, HDMI out, a dock with USB's, memory slot in the dock, and lots of battery life.
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then return your tf and get a ipad. Itunes is.a lovely program. I love the fact that I need to install itunes on Every computers in order to intall apps. Amazing...
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then return your tf and get a ipad. Itunes is.a lovely program. I love the fact that I need to install itunes on Every computers in order to intall apps. Amazing...
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I do have an ipad, and work paid for my Tf. I like using the Tf for flash content and watching movies on the wide screen.
You do NOT need iTunes to install apps. Currently, you only need to activate a new ios device once with a computer. If you don't care about backups, you never have to connect it to any computer ever. Apps, music, movies can be purchased OTA, just like android.
Starting with iOS 5, coming in the fall, everything can be done OTA, including backing up of device settings, address book, calendar, email, apps, AND app data, all for free! No more activation with a computer.
I may seem like an apple fan. But in fact, I am just a fan of 'whatever works best".
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Game data, correct; you cannot back that up to your gmail account. That would not get backed up without rooted backup programs. Still, I'd rather restart Angry birds, having known I didnt have to buy it like the iguys do. That is, if you do not want to root(which is very easy now, for any version of honeycomb). Being able to customize something completely requires some effort. This platform is not for someone who just wants a "perfectly easy user experience". But hey, with effort, comes reward. Like an actual memory slot, HDMI out, a dock with USB's, memory slot in the dock, and lots of battery life.
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It is a fact that android is great for customization, and good for those that likes to take advantage of that. For the rest of us, who use tablets as a tool, rather than a hobbie, we want basic things to work without hacking. Backing up in-app data is a basic need in my opinion.
Another one is to prompt for a password everytime when buying paid apps in the market. It is just crazy to me that anyone can pick up your Tf and buy apps with the saved CC info. I don't think I am asking too much.
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What you guys did, after you tear down the box and turn on your acer a500 for the first time, excluding language and timezone selection?
Check for update manually
root it
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What's the easiest way to do this?
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root it
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I don't know what is it, or how they do it, but first I wanna know why they do it. All I heard is root! root! root!
get to know it
Do not root update install 3rd party apps until you know honeycomb and android
Of course root is obviously needed it also puts system files in your hands to mess up.
Please be careful and read all the forums and threads here
Thanks for hearing my 2 cents
If you dont know why you most likely do not need to do so yet
There are a great bunch of people here .take your time and do not jumpinto to deep
If you're not going to root, obviously the first thing is to set your tablet up with your Google account (either an existing GMail account or a new one.) Then set up any other email accounts, and install any apps you know you want that aren't on the tablet already (Kindle/Nook, games, utilities, TweetDeck, Pandora, MoboPlayer, etc.)
Find yourself a good File Manager; Android doesn't come by default with a program to let you view the files on your tablet :| I personally use ES File Explorer, but HD File Manager is also pretty good and was designed for Honeycomb/tablet size displays.
As Erica said above, don't even consider rooting until you've worked with Android a bit. If you don't need the tools root provides, you're better off not doing it.
Rooting your tablet (or other Android device) installs a "SuperUser" application which can allow other apps to act as the owner of the operating system (for Windows user, Administrator level privileges rather than User). In most cases, the method of getting root involves using a device- or Android-version-specific exploit/security hole.
With Root/SU, you can:
Run root-only apps like Titanium Backup, SetCPU (profiles only currently)
Remove and/or replace apps and other files not normally in the "user" space (CAUTION: Acer's update process expects damned near all of the pre-installed apps to still be there, so ALWAYS back up the original files!)
Once the hard-working and never-appreciated-enough Devs figure out a way around the bootloader (or Acer unlocks it), you can replace the kernel files, overclock, replace the entire ROM with a custom one
Some caveats:
Rooting will almost certainly void your warranty (if discovered should you have to return it for warranty service) and if you do it wrong, you can brick your device (i.e. you now have a flat black brick, not a functional device)
Some apps will not work on devices that are rooted (and/or have the SuperUser app present). Currently this includes at a minimum Google Movies and Blockbuster.
DON'T waste you time trying to update. It's been pulled until release fo HC 3.1.
DO enjoy the unit!
DO download apps and play.
Root at your own risk, but HC 3.1 is around the corner and you will have a dificult time getting it if you don't know what your not a techie.
Lastly, put it in Airplane mode before sleep mode to save battery. If you are turning it off, no dif.
Get Astro file mgr - free
Get Weatherbug for HC - free
Get Pandora - free
Load a micro mem card with all you music and videos, and enjoy one of the best devices in production.
If you have a memory card reader, blow you Ipad friends minds by asking them to borrow the memory card in their digital camera, plug it into the USB and swipe through their pictures. They don't have an app for that.
I have had my A500 since last week. I have basically just been trying out apps and browsing Forums to get more info. In the end the forum here seems to be most active and contains the most interesting information.
Also try to google for list with "Optimized for Honeycomb". This will make you fiind the apps that are optimized for the Tablet.
I did not root my device as I dont have any need for it (yet), but I am certainly waiting for 3.1. The current version of honeycomb is a bit unstable.
For the rest just enjoy the tablet
Smile, you just bought a great tablet
So what are you guys saying is that I should not update my build version, and wait for the 3.1 update
Of course first have to buy a screen protector before remove the plastic cover. Apply the screen protector before it get dusted. Then only turn on the device, sign in your Google account and connect internet and do setting. Then go update the firmware.
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So what are you guys saying is that I should not update my build version, and wait for the 3.1 update
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Correct, unless you know what you are doing.
Suppose you lost your Android tablet or phone tomorrow, or it died and you got a replacement. Then you realize you don't have back up of your in-app data (like your games level, files you created on devices).
Before you argue that you have your phone rooted and can use titanium backup or similar apps, consider this:
1) - what if you are upgrade to a different device (GTab 10.1 to GTab 7.7), or (Gingerbread to Honeycomb), your backup may not work;
2) - manufacturer like Samsung don't approve rooting, as it voids your warranty.
In other words, there is NO official method to backup your data in a way approved by Google!
Am I the only to think that this is plain unacceptable?
In the settings > backup and reset, it says you can keep your application data, wifi passwords, and more (I think this includes calendar and phone book) as a copy in your Google account. Tbh I haven't tested this but could it be what you are looking for? Otherwise, yeah you are absolutely right...
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In the settings > backup and reset, it says you can keep your application data, wifi passwords, and more (I think this includes calendar and phone book) as a copy in your Google account. Tbh I haven't tested this but could it be what you are looking for? Otherwise, yeah you are absolutely right...
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No, that's not it. That "backup" does nothing to you in-app data.
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No, that's not it. That "backup" does nothing to you in-app data.
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Agreed. Have to support the OP in this, the fact that there is no standard non-root backup approach is truly appalling.
I'm trialling MyBackup at present - so far, so good, but the fear factor is high - I'd hate to have to depend on it without warning.
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Suppose you lost your Android tablet or phone tomorrow, or it died and you got a replacement. Then you realize you don't have back up of your in-app data (like your games level, files you created on devices).
Before you argue that you have your phone rooted and can use titanium backup or similar apps, consider this:
1) - what if you are upgrade to a different device (GTab 10.1 to GTab 7.7), or (Gingerbread to Honeycomb), your backup may not work;
2) - manufacturer like Samsung don't approve rooting, as it voids your warranty.
In other words, there is NO official method to backup your data in a way approved by Google!
Am I the only to think that this is plain unacceptable?
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I ALWAYS root and I simply wouldn't buy a device which is locked (that's why in early January I bought a G.Tab 10.1" instead of a Transformer TF101, my first choice was the TF101 but the latest units on the market were locked).
Even without root, anyway, the only things you would loose is data apps (which, games aside -and I don't do games on my mobile devices- mainly means apps settings) and I never restore them when changing devices or going through major software updates.
That said, I do agree with you that there should be a better, OFFICIAL, integrated and comprehensive backup solution.
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Suppose you lost your Android tablet or phone tomorrow, or it died and you got a replacement. Then you realize you don't have back up of your in-app data (like your games level, files you created on devices).
Before you argue that you have your phone rooted and can use titanium backup or similar apps, consider this:
1) - what if you are upgrade to a different device (GTab 10.1 to GTab 7.7), or (Gingerbread to Honeycomb), your backup may not work;
2) - manufacturer like Samsung don't approve rooting, as it voids your warranty.
In other words, there is NO official method to backup your data in a way approved by Google!
Am I the only to think that this is plain unacceptable?
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I haven't been stock for a long time, but if you really want to backup app data without root I think you can just save those folders. Probably differences between apps in how/where data is stored, but if there's something specific you might be able to figure it out. Also, there's an app called saveshare (sharesave?) that backs up certain games to dropbox so you can save your game across multiple devices (not exacly elegant, but if that's what you want).
But really, why would you ever be stock if you have android? And if you are, why are you on XDA? Also, what other operating system has this feature? Even on a desktop this isn't an easy fix.
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Also, what other operating system has this feature? Even on a desktop this isn't an easy fix.
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Well apple is pretty damn good on this. I wish kies, or another program, had that iTunes functionality. It backs up apps and settings and they can be easily restored...
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Well apple is pretty damn good on this. I wish kies, or another program, had that iTunes functionality. It backs up apps and settings and they can be easily restored...
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Sorry, that's just not correct. itunes backs up the apps and setting, but not the appdata (which is what the OP was specifically talking about). Unless you're talking about imaging a hard drive (which is what apple does with the "time machine" software) you're not going to save your appdata. Sorry, guys, but this just doesn't exist yet. Root, install Titanium, and backup; or complain on a forum that isn't for folks who were doing that stuff anyways...
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Sorry, that's just not correct. itunes backs up the apps and setting, but not the appdata (which is what the OP was specifically talking about). Unless you're talking about imaging a hard drive (which is what apple does with the "time machine" software) you're not going to save your appdata. Sorry, guys, but this just doesn't exist yet. Root, install Titanium, and backup; or complain on a forum that isn't for folks who were doing that stuff anyways...
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Actually Apple does back up app data. When you restore from backup everything gets restored on the device.
welcome to life.
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Suppose you lost your Android tablet or phone tomorrow, or it died and you got a replacement. Then you realize you don't have back up of your in-app data (like your games level, files you created on devices).
Before you argue that you have your phone rooted and can use titanium backup or similar apps, consider this:
1) - what if you are upgrade to a different device (GTab 10.1 to GTab 7.7), or (Gingerbread to Honeycomb), your backup may not work;
2) - manufacturer like Samsung don't approve rooting, as it voids your warranty.
In other words, there is NO official method to backup your data in a way approved by Google!
Am I the only to think that this is plain unacceptable?
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agreed, more than enough times i have changed my tablet or android phone and lost all save progress in all my games, it's really annoying!
with ipod touch there is a auto backup that restores everything with a click of a button, this is the only downside to android and needs to improve with android especially when android promotes the tablets as a mobile gaming machine on the go.
i don't have the patience to play games on tablet to completion because of the way save files are handled, i play angry birds so many times and it ends up getting reset everytime i get a new phone so i don't bother anymore, it doesn't help that game developers from the console market release games on android and those types of games need a save backup feature just like on consoles, even a basic cloud save service would be great even if you had to pay for it would make it less painful for people constantly changing their tablets and phones all the time, because we all know that technology moves fast and the latest thing gets old within 2 years so our tablets and phones are always changing, i would like in the future to cloud sync my save progress whenever i upgrade or buy a new phone.
a good example is now, i have a xoom and want to upgrade to a galaxy note 10.1 i can't take anything with me apart from pictures and media like mp3s and video, everything else will be wiped from the tablet, i can't use titanium backup pro without wiping my xoom first and then backup (which is completely useless why wipe a device to root it when there is nothing left to backup?) mybackup pro or titanium backup cannot backup much without root so i am SOL and there is not much i can do about it please sort this out google for future updates, this is essential imo for a popular OS like this, you shouldn't have to void your warranty or wipe your data to backup stuff, it should be a simple easy process.
Hi,
is it possible to have more than one google account on one Nexus7 device?
(this thread should be at Nexus7 Q&A)
Moved to Nexus 7 Q&A.
EDIT: Never mind, I was wrong, you get the option of choosing which account to use as the person below me has said.
I have a second Google account on my Desire Hd.
Its not much of an issue, when you are using google apps eg. YouTube, G+, Gmail you get a choice of which account you want to use and you can logout and choose the other whenever you want.
Syncing is not a problem either, whichever account you pick when you make changes they will be saved to only that account.
My YouTube widget changes depending on which account i am using when i exit the YouTube app.
Hope this helps
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I use multiple Google accts on my phone (ICS/CM9). Sync'ing, etc works just fine. Whenever it gets to a point where you have to choose the account you want something under, it prompts you. The issue/solution for me for Facebook (for my wife & I) will likely be Friendcaster (which allows multiple accts).
I was thinking more about choosing an user after waking-up the tablet. Just like windows has. One for me, other for my wife.
The perfect solution would be face to unlock, but I don't think it would be avaliable soon.
Tablets feel like windows 98 all over again. I guess this is because of their phone roots (the thought being one user owns a phone). But with tablets, many want to share.
As your example of you and your wife. Or even security. I'm at my bro's and my nephew wants to play with my tablet, and he's pretty responsible, but he could actually start reading/deleting my email, uninstall apps, buy apps via google market. Btw, I expressly choose never to save anything to google wallet, I've only made a few purchases and have been careful of this, but last thing I bought, my credit card info was all ready to go. Sigh.
But yes not only would I like multi-users I would like to make others have limited functionality, as in they can't install/uninstall apps etc. Even a simple thing like letting my nephew play a game I was in the middle of playing, well he cleared all the stages so I have to remember which stage I was on each time I launch it, or clear them all and start over.
But I suspect it'll be this way for a long time.
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I was thinking more about choosing an user after waking-up the tablet. Just like windows has. One for me, other for my wife.
The perfect solution would be face to unlock, but I don't think it would be avaliable soon.
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SwitchMe sounds like what you may be looking for?
N.B. I haven't used it.
Thanks Salty Wagyu for the link. I'm gonna try it as soon as i get me N7. It might be what I'm looking for.
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SwitchMe sounds like what you may be looking for?.
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Wow... I wasn't aware of that app, either. This is from one of the reviews, though:
Log out does not really work like Windows where you log out and then select another user but rather you have to go into the App and say SWITCH user. Once you do SWITCH user, you actually have to wait for the device to reboot into the other user so it is not running multiple instances
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I'd think that if the dev on this app could get help from or work with the devs on the popular launchers, better integration would ensue... Like the review said, though... great start...
I've actually installed this app and ran it. You do have to reboot whenever you "switch" which for me isn't a big deal. I haven't had a chance to mess with it too much yet but it looks like the closest option to running multiple accts. From what I can tell you can add a pic for each profile and u can choose which acct to load which is nice, but the lite version only allows 2 profiles, you have to buy a key for more.
1 caution though, it may mess things up a bit with the play store. I tried buying a key after switching back to my profile, and I got an error saying my order could not be processed try again. I'm going to give it some time & try again in a few hours & see what happens.
Using it now too. Seems pretty cool. Seeing as EVERYONE loves wanting to see your phone. LoL!! There is an experimental switch feature that swtiches without rebooting, but I'm not too sure that's working just yet. LoL!!
I'll give this a try too. It may seem worth it.
And a question for the OP. Is that your comment I seen in the store? About the wife and kids? LoL!! =.P
I noticed that switching to a different profile doesn't retain apps between users. Say for instance on the admin profile (mine), I have Plex purchased and installed. On the newly created profile with a different account, it doesn't show up in the apps page (which makes sense because it's a different account). This could become a problem for those with the 8gb model (like myself) where you might have duplicate apps installed based on the user(s) which would take up more space. I think for the sake of saving space, it may be wise for me to install only maintenance/tool type apps on the admin profile for tablet management, then, anything else (games, productivity etc) can be tied to the newly created profile so that I'm not duplicating installed apps.
Can anyone that has done this estimate how much space an extra profile consumes? My 8 GB nexus 7 stock out of the box has ~5.75 GB available. Will adding a second profile consume another ~2 GB plus any additional apps, data, etc? I'm hoping that some of that 2 GB is due to medium format, and other reserved space...
Hello there,
Is there any way to backup the Nexus 4 (or any Android probably) to a Time Capsule?
If it can't be done locally without connecting the phone to my computer, I suppose cloud backup would be fine.
If Time Capsule backup is not possible, what's the best setup people are using?
It could be one or multiple applications setup. It could be either Box, Dropbox, GDrive or similar, or just my own SFTP/FTP host.
What I would like is a solution that would automatically backup my phone (best would be a complete backup - but messages, call log, and SD card is the most important) when I connect to my home WIFI network. Is there such a thing?
It's always better free, but if it's a couple of dollars, it's fine too. Root solutions are acceptable.
Thanks.
If you are coming from the Apple world where your entire phone is automatically backed up in iTunes, you'll find Android does not officially support anything like that. Don't ask me why as I find it inexplicable that official support for this does not exist.
If you want to backup your entire phone you will most likely need root, and use something like Titanium backup. There is no support for Time Capsule here... that requires a Mac OS running Time Machine. As far as automating the process... I am not sure (maybe Tasker), but I doubt it.
If your just interested in apps and app data, you should be able to back that up using Carbon, and schedule backups as well.
Just curious if people use Smart Switch (or similar programs/apps) to transfer all the old data/contacts/music/apps to the new phone or start fresh, re-download apps one by one, etc? When I switch to a new device, I'm usually (maybe unreasonably) fearful that some stray bit of old or unused data or file will transfer over that will affect the performance of the new device, thinking I'm making it 'dirty'. I also use it as an opportunity to purge apps I don't use enough to warrant keeping them. Over time I always collect apps I use maybe one time and I leave them there, no reason why. Time to clean house!
Coming from S7E, when I go into Best Buy to pick up the S8+ I'm sure they'll ask if I want them to OTG the data over... No thanks, I want my baby clean.
With smart switch you can chose what you want to copy. Yo
I might have to check out this smart switch. I usually back up everything with Titanium then restore on the new device. The problem is that often causes problems if you restore the data that goes with the apps (last time I did that it screwed up notifications for things like whatsapp and emails), I think it was due to going from kitkat to marshmallow on my S5 and the difference in permissions handling between them probably screwed it up when restoring data. Of course not restoring the data means I lose all my save games, old messages in whatsapp, call logs, saved wifi networks etc etc so it would be nice to restore these things without screwing up anything on the new device. I wonder if Smart Switch (never heard of it before) could do it better than trying to restore from Titanium?
I guess not, just installed Smart Switch on my S5 and it won't even run. Tap to open it, it flashes up on the screen then vanishes.
I'm going to try smart switch, loading it now on my Nexus 6.
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I used smart switch on my last couple of upgrades I usually backup to PC on the morning the new phones due to arrival.
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Well I still can't get smart switch to even load on my S5. Same thing constantly, tap the icon to load it, a smart switch screen flashes up then vanishes. No error messages and it stil shows in the recents menu, selecting it from there does the same thing, smart switch comes up, then vanishes again.
No idea why, I am using phoenix rom for my S5 which I think has bits of S7E firmware in it but that shouldnt cause an issue, the phone itself couldnt be running any better and its still a samsung android phone so smart switch should at least run, instead of vanishing without any kind of error message to give me a bluddy clue as to what i need to do to make it work.
Are there any good alternatives to smart switch? googling it just brings up the usual bunch of junk you get in these types of searches that i dont trust at all.
When I use smart switch it always gives me a rouge run away app that kills my batter and I end up factory resetting to correct it so what I started doing was sms backup and restore to restore my call logs, txt and sms messages including pictures and allowing Google to restore my apps ( no data) and go from there. Yeah I know I have to reset up my apps but I don't care at least I start from a somewhat clean slate and have everything I need . That's just my experience and opinion.
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If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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Helium backup and mybackup.
I like to tranfer everything because i have so much.
But funny thing is tho when i first got my s7 edge the smart switch didnt work, everything didnt tranfer.
Went to the note 7. Then went to a new note 7 (recall) still didnt tranfer my apps. Back to the s7 i went fresh and it now backs up correctly. So ill try the smart switch again.
Then box up ky s7e and ship it back
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If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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Smart switch works on multiple devices on Android and iOS. I'm going to give it a go first.
I always just start from scratch. Had too many problems in the past with apps misbehaving. I'd rather just devote a few hours to reloading manually than devote days to figuring out wtf is going wrong.
Starting from scratch. Had some issues with my pixel XL when I transferred my data
Nothing works 100% right when you transfer. It's just a fact. I've gone from S6 to S7, S7 to Note, Note back to S7, and other Android to Android transfers. Inevitably some app or setting screws something up. It might be minor, it might cause reboots. Not worth the risk. SmartSwitch is very slick, but it still can cause grief.
This is what I'd suggest based on past experiences.
1) Use an unencrypted SD card to copy photos, music, ringtones, and anything else media related between phones. There is no downside to this. You can save new pics to the SD card on the new phone while keeping all your old pics and it will just work. (Make sure and back stuff up. Phone or SD card, you never know when things will die.) You're coming from an S7, so you have that SD card option. If other users don't have an SD slot, copy the files to your computer and then to the new phone.
2) Make a list of all the apps that are relevant to you. There is likely a lot of baggage on your current phone you just left there. That app you downloaded once for one purpose that you never deleted. The app that is specific for the phone you're coming from and has no use on the new one. The picture editing app you downloaded but then started using something else. Bottom line, only bring along the baggage that you use. Adding back unnecessary stuff can just slow down a phone.
3) Set up your shiny new S8. Get it on your network. Get your Google account signed in. Go through ALL the system preferences. Turn off garbage settings you won't ever use (Edge sports for instance...). Set the timeout and security settings you will use.
4) Look over the apps that are on the phone already. Disable the ones you don't need/want. You can keep it basic and just do it in the app list settings or you can go a bit deeper and use an app from the Play Store to disable apps or go all old school and use pm on the phone's shell to do it. (pm -hide com.vznavigator.Generic for example) Once you've done that, your phone will be as pure as it can be without putting a custom ROM on it. Update the apps now or later.
5) Log into your Google account on a desktop browser and go to the Play Store. Use that list of apps you made before to bring them all up in the browser. Hit install there and choose your shiny new S8 as the destination. (This is just quicker than going into the Play Store on your phone and searching for each of them.) They'll download in the background on your phone as you choose them.
6) The crappy part. Set up the apps again. They're all installed fresh and clean so you'll need to launch them and put in passwords, accounts, settings, etc. It's painful, but it is the only way to guarantee that no gremlins on the phone came along with transfers.
7) Pop in that SD card you had with all your pics, music, ringtones, etc. on it.
8) Finish set up. Set your camera to use the SD card, choose the SD card as the storage location for offline YouTube and Netflix videos, etc.
9) Enjoy your new phone.
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sebastianraven said:
Smart switch works on multiple devices on Android and iOS. I'm going to give it a go first.
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Don't do it. It seems so nice and slick, but it's caused grief every single time I've used it. Subtle glitches sometimes, force quits other times.
Averix said:
6) The crappy part. Set up the apps again. They're all installed fresh and clean so you'll need to launch them and put in passwords, accounts, settings, etc. It's painful
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Thanks for the comprehensive list, good stuff there. To combat #6, I use a password manager (LastPass) which will autologin to my apps with a fingerprint. Saves a lot of typing, and I'll give the FPS a good workout and get used to the placement in the meanwhile.
i just use google account too download previous google store apps and populate the contacts. then get my 3rd party apk installed, that i keep on my sd card. things like unlimited skip pandora, etc.
I am coming from iOS, not sure how much it can be transferred... I guest only photo and contact, without apps...
Will missed some apps that I bought... need to buy it again on Google Store.
sanjsrik said:
If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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cloneIT
i like to start from scratch
skyhew said:
I am coming from iOS, not sure how much it can be transferred... I guest only photo and contact, without apps...
Will missed some apps that I bought... need to buy it again on Google Store.
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I wouldn't even transfer photos. Just download Google Photos on iOS and upload them and then download them on the new device.
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