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Any chance a gingerbread rom will be developed for the cdma hero?
How about a WP7 rom?
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e1cadet13 said:
Any chance a gingerbread rom will be developed for the cdma hero?
How about a WP7 rom?
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First, wrong thread.
Gingerbread: Probably
WP7: No.
mrinehart93 said:
First, wrong thread.
Gingerbread: Probably
WP7: No.
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Sorry man. Kind of new to the forums. Thanks for the reply though.
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Gingerbread? I kind of doubt it will all the the devices that keep coming out. People will be upgrading and there aren't that many CDMA Hero devs as it is.
WP7: Never.
From what I hear gingerbread will require a 1gz processor 512mb RAM and higher spec gpu. So it'll be like running windows 7 on a Pentium 3.
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From what I hear gingerbread will require a 1gz processor 512mb RAM and higher spec gpu. So it'll be like running windows 7 on a Pentium 3.
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You heard wrong bro, I gotta say. A mobile OS with reqs that high borderline leaves mobile and move into "very tiny laptop that makes phone calls"
Considering the specs of phones released this year, ones being released this year, and 1.5 ghz dual processors on the way, I wouldn't be surprised.
Do some research, gingerbread is supposed to require the specs mentioned by zenulator, if we some how got it ported to the hero, it would be far from an official release.
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No and no end of story
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zenulator said:
From what I hear gingerbread will require a 1gz processor 512mb RAM and higher spec gpu. So it'll be like running windows 7 on a Pentium 3.
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Do some research, gingerbread is supposed to require the specs mentioned by zenulator, if we some how got it ported to the hero, it would be far from an official release.
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Not completely wrong but not right either.
1ghz cpu, 512 ram is the recommended specs for gingerbread.
read here: http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/android-3-0-a-k-a-gingerbread-requirements-updated.html
There is definitely a chance of porting it to the Hero someday.
People don't understand the different between "Recommended Specs" and "Required Specs" - I find our customers don't get it all the time at work.
Recommended means - this is what it needs to work well, and probably the minimum to which it is tested.
Required means - If you don't have X,Y, and Z - it ain't gonna work - and if magically it does, don't call me when its having issues.
Honestly, there has been very little confirmation from Google that Ginger Bread will require this, just lots of speculation and rumor. Google stays tight lipped about stuff for a reason, they are publicly traded and anything that slips can effect stock prices (Martha Stewart flash backs any one?)
Hero getting a port of Ginger Bread? It's possible, but the likely hood that the CPU/GPU can handle what they have planned? HIGHLY doubtful. Your holding a device that is 3 releases "old" (eg. Was launched with 1.5, got 2.1 - now can haz 2.2 if its hacked) , thats like asking Microsoft to install Windows 7 on a machine that was originally sold with Windows ME (if you have blocked the existence of ME out of your head, go back to Windows 98 - its not that far off...) Given that example is a little extreme, but most comparisons are - the point still holds true.
The rate of change over the last 1.5 years in the smart phone market has been absolutely incredible, and working for a company who is into Mobile computing - it's a friggin nightmare to keep up. I would dare to say we have beaten Moore's Law in the last year of developments in concern to Mobile - with the exception of the price of devices coming down.
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Nokia's MeeGo OS has been ported to Nexus,Desire and Dell Streak,if its not too hard can someone make a port for Epic?
What is MeeGo? Forgive the ignorance to the subject
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MeeGo is Intel and Nokia's new (read: still in development) open source OS. It is supposed to replace Symbian on Nokia's high end smartphones.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was easier to port it to those 3 because they use the exact same processor, probably nowhere near as easy as setting it up for the "hummingbird"
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MeeGo is Intel and Nokia's new (read: still in development) open source OS. It is supposed to replace Symbian on Nokia's high end smartphones.
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I see thx relic
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was easier to port it to those 3 because they use the exact same processor, probably nowhere near as easy as setting it up for the "hummingbird"
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The only phone I'm aware of that has official support for MeeGo and is in the market at the moment is the Nokia N900, which has a ARM based processor and I know those three phones don't use the same processor as the N900. The Hummingbird processors are also ARM based so porting to it shouldn't be too difficult. I would think getting it to work with the other hardware inside the Epic would be a bigger preventing factor than the processor BUT I'm not really a programmer so I can't speak from experience.
Plus as usual with Linux - Where there's a will, there's a way.
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The only phone I'm aware of that has official support for MeeGo and is in the market at the moment is the Nokia N900, which has a ARM based processor and I know those three phones don't use the same processor as the N900. The Hummingbird processors are also ARM based so porting to it shouldn't be too difficult. I would think getting it to work with the other hardware inside the Epic would be a bigger preventing factor than the processor BUT I'm not really a programmer so I can't speak from experience.
Plus as usual with Linux - Where there's a will, there's a way.
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If someone can get me the manual with the coding details of the hummingbird processor from Samsung...it could be well worth the effort. Every type of port could be completed if we got the manual to the Hummingbird Processor
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The only phone I'm aware of that has official support for MeeGo and is in the market at the moment is the Nokia N900, which has a ARM based processor and I know those three phones don't use the same processor as the N900. The Hummingbird processors are also ARM based so porting to it shouldn't be too difficult. I would think getting it to work with the other hardware inside the Epic would be a bigger preventing factor than the processor BUT I'm not really a programmer so I can't speak from experience.
Plus as usual with Linux - Where there's a will, there's a way.
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No,N900 runs Mamemo OS,Nexus One and Desire ports run MeeGo OS,which in essence is a striped down version of Maemo but for smaller screen phones.
Whats funny about it is that Nexus and other ports came out before new nokia phones and there is still no Nokia phones out that rocks MeeGo os,yet.
Just google MeGoo Nexus Port,its a slick looking os.I read the original article on engadget.
Every mobile platform is essentially ARM based, the difference is, those phones are using the Qualcomm Snapgragon processor, while the N900 is using TI's OMAP processor. Both are ARM Cortex A8 architechtures but they do differ quite a bit in their SoC execution. Hummingbird is closer to the OMAP processors, they even share the same family of GPUs.
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MeeGo is not a "stripped down version for smaller screens". MeeGo is more of a combinataion of Maemo and Moblin (Intel's mobile OS), though I think it is being built from the ground up. Screen size has nothing to do with it.
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Every mobile platform is essentially ARM based, the difference is, those phones are using the Qualcomm Snapgragon processor, while the N900 is using TI's OMAP processor. Both are ARM Cortex A8 architechtures but they do differ quite a bit in their SoC execution. Hummingbird is closer to the OMAP processors, they even share the same family of GPUs.
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Since N900 and Humingbird are the same than maybe we can get Maemo port.Two things I don't get,if all these phones share almost the same architecture and cpu's,why hasn't anyone ported WebOS or iOS yet?And why are we GalaxyS owners not being blessed with all the goods like Nexus1 owners,considering that there is more GalaxieS sold than Nexus.
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No,N900 runs Mamemo OS,Nexus One and Desire ports run MeeGo OS,which in essence is a striped down version of Maemo but for smaller screen phones.
Whats funny about it is that Nexus and other ports came out before new nokia phones and there is still no Nokia phones out that rocks MeeGo os,yet.
Just google MeGoo Nexus Port,its a slick looking os.I read the original article on engadget.
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I'm well aware the N900 runs Maemo Linux (Debian port) BUT if you check out the MeeGo handset project blogs (specifically the handset ones) mention "Hardware adaptation support for Intel Atom-based handset (Moorestown) and ARM-based Nokia N900".
Since the Nokia N900 is the only phone that is available to the public, it is the only phone that has official support for MeeGo at the moment. I would link to the article but I'm not sure if that's allowable but you can just check Wikipedia's entry for MeeGo and click the link provided in reference #9.
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I'm well aware the N900 runs Maemo Linux (Debian port) BUT if you check out the MeeGo handset project blogs (specifically the handset ones) mention "Hardware adaptation support for Intel Atom-based handset (Moorestown) and ARM-based Nokia N900".
Since the Nokia N900 is the only phone that is available to the public, it is the only phone that has official support for MeeGo at the moment. I would link to the article but I'm not sure if that's allowable but you can just check Wikipedia's entry for MeeGo and click the link provided in reference #9.
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Yeah,you are right,MeeGo is Moblin OS and Maemo merged.MeeGo is a replacement for Maemo,it just looks different from phone version because they have different versions for different devices.
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Since N900 and Humingbird are the same than maybe we can get Maemo port.Two things I don't get,if all these phones share almost the same architecture and cpu's,why hasn't anyone ported WebOS or iOS yet?And why are we GalaxyS owners not being blessed with all the goods like Nexus1 owners,considering that there is more GalaxieS sold than Nexus.
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WebOS/iOS = Proprietary meaning if it's ported expect a C & D order from the makers
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WebOS/iOS = Proprietary meaning if it's ported expect a C & D order from the makers
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Yeah, I'm thinking the same way that Apple's OSX is now Intel-oriented, but there's only mild effort (from what I've seen) to get it ported to all Intel-based systems. Still, though, there is [somewhat] active Hackintosh development, so it is probably possible if there are some dedicated and ambitious developers that for some reason want to get Android devices running iOS or webOS.
But it seems to me that "unique" _features_ of said OS'es are much easier to bring to Android when we want them specifically.
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If someone can get me the manual with the coding details of the hummingbird processor from Samsung...it could be well worth the effort. Every type of port could be completed if we got the manual to the Hummingbird Processor
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Here you go:
http://www.multiupload.com/835ZK0RAYR
If someone can get me the manual with the coding details of the hummingbird processor from Samsung...it could be well worth the effort. Every type of port could be completed if we got the manual to the Hummingbird Processor
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Here you go:
http://www.multiupload.com/835ZK0RAYR
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Wow. That is a LOT of useful information. Awesome. Thanks for providing this.
Now, let's see if this can help us like some said it would...
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Yeah,expect donations whoever ports this or any other os to Epic.
Idk how possible this is... But once we get vanilla gb ported to the epic it would be awesome to be able to dualboot with wp7 too. Anyone know how possible this is?
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No possible at all, wp7 has a device identifier built in and the epic wouldn't be recognized
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not to mention that wp7 only runs on snapdragon hardware that exists on the evo not epic.
Could be wrong here, but doesn't the Samsung Focus have a Hummingbird chip?
No, it has a Snapdragon CPU.
I can post many links for this, but I'll just go with this one:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/22/samsung-focus-review/
Having wp7 on the epic would be like downgrading your phone...
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jeffyv2 said:
Having wp7 on the epic would be like downgrading your phone...
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I completely disagree.
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I completely disagree.
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Because of the hardware its gonna be on but he os is garbage lol...
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jeffyv2 said:
Having wp7 on the epic would be like downgrading your phone...
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Having a choice in operating systems would be amazing. I just wish phone hardware was at least as open as PC hardware
I wouldn't choose to run WP7 personally, but the ideology of having multiple OS choices for a device you bought is great. I'd love to have meego on our phones
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Having a choice in operating systems would be amazing. I just wish phone hardware was at least as open as PC hardware
I wouldn't choose to run WP7 personally, but the ideology of having multiple OS choices for a device you bought is great. I'd love to have meego on our phones
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Amen well said
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Putting WP7 on an android phone would probably lead to a law suite :/..MeeGo on the other hand is open source thus a possibility...
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Putting WP7 on an android phone would probably lead to a law suite :/..MeeGo on the other hand is open source thus a possibility...
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Ya I doubt microsoft would be happy about that. From what I remember they've been pretty quick to squash the WP7 hacking community. Which is stupid because a hacking community really makes or breaks a phone OS imo. We're not the majority but we're a very loud minority and the things people like our devs do are things that (more often than not) make the phones better and are sometimes taken note of by the corporate devs.
i just thought it would be awesome, idk, wp7 just looks fun, i still prefer android over it, but itd just be fun to see how fast it would go on a hummingbird. i knew all the wp7s had snapdragons, but i didnt know they had to have snapdragons.... was a cool dream while it lasted i guess, maybe a dev or something will try and find a workaround
There will be two different version of Galaxy S II, one with Tegra 2 and one with Samsung's own Exynos SoC. My question is, will there be two version of custom roms (Cyanogenmod) as the SoCs are different?
Only one version is required, as the instruction set are the same.
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i wonder if Cyanogenmod will be supporting sgs II?
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i wonder if Cyanogenmod will be supporting sgs II?
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Depends if device is locked.
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one 1 version si required as far as i know
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Only one version is required, as the instruction set are the same.
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i dont get it, since both needs different drivers to operate the chips. And what do you mean by having same instruction sets?
It better not be locked. I haven't really had a Samsung phone recently. Do they usually lock theirs?
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It better not be locked. I haven't really had a Samsung phone recently. Do they usually lock theirs?
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nope they don't locked their phones, Samsung usually leaves them open. Except for the Galaxy Tab but, that's a different story.
Yet, with their product highlights of "Security", it could be questioned whether if they would have a locked bootloader.
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Yet, with their product highlights of "Security", it could be questioned whether if they would have a locked bootloader.
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They're not related at all. At all.
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i dont get it, since both needs different drivers to operate the chips. And what do you mean by having same instruction sets?
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Drivers and instruction sets are different.... yes the drivers are needed for inter chip communication on the device, the instruction set are the coding instructions that are then through a compiler broken down into the machine code that the individual chip can interpret and such...
hope that helps
The instruction sets will be mostly the same. However, Samsung optimizes their processors for better routines in certain operations. This, though, should not impact development too much, aside from the normal driver issues and GSM/CDMA differences.
It would be so much more easier if samsung just used one processor.
This is the first ever phone iv seen that uses two different processors/ screen types.
I know they did it cause they couldnt supply enough of the screen/ exynos processors... but still.. >.<
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It would be so much more easier if samsung just used one processor.
This is the first ever phone iv seen that uses two different processors/ screen types.
I know they did it cause they couldnt supply enough of the screen/ exynos processors... but still.. >.<
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RedBlueGreen said:
It would be so much more easier if samsung just used one processor.
This is the first ever phone iv seen that uses two different processors/ screen types.
I know they did it cause they couldnt supply enough of the screen/ exynos processors... but still.. >.<
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This is not the first time SGS1 had also diff models.
RedBlueGreen said:
It would be so much more easier if samsung just used one processor.
This is the first ever phone iv seen that uses two different processors/ screen types.
I know they did it cause they couldnt supply enough of the screen/ exynos processors... but still.. >.<
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to my knowledge the only difference possibly between models would be exynos or tegra 2... i didn't think there was a difference in screens? am I just daft/in a world of dreams? links?
Dameon87 said:
The instruction sets will be mostly the same. However, Samsung optimizes their processors for better routines in certain operations. This, though, should not impact development too much, aside from the normal driver issues and GSM/CDMA differences.
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Yes, thats what I was worried about. The cyanogenmod will need more development time as there are two different version around for galaxy s2.
RedBlueGreen said:
It would be so much more easier if samsung just used one processor.
This is the first ever phone iv seen that uses two different processors/ screen types.
I know they did it cause they couldnt supply enough of the screen/ exynos processors... but still.. >.<
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??? i thought it was just the SoC being different, and now they gonna be two different display screen as well? omg, the biggest attraction for Galaxy s II is the super amoled++. And what I see at the moment, asian region will get the Tegra2 and SLCD version if what you said comes true
i9100 = exynos + super amoled plus
i9103 = tegra2 + SLCD
SGS1 had i9000 and i9003:
http://www.phonegg.com/compare/27/Samsung-I9000-Galaxy-S-8GB-vs-Samsung-I9003-Galaxy-SL.html
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i9100 = exynos + super amoled plus
i9103 = tegra2 + SLCD
SGS1 had i9000 and i9003:
http://www.phonegg.com/compare/27/Samsung-I9000-Galaxy-S-8GB-vs-Samsung-I9003-Galaxy-SL.html
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was shock seeing what you typed here initially, there are no sources saying Tegra2 version will get SLCD. Moreover,Galaxy SL is meant to replace Galaxy S, Galaxy S will be discontinued/cease production, where the SL version will become Samsung's mid range phone this year.
Hello guys.
It has been a very nice year for me here in this forum but would like to move on with a new phone which i'm planing to buy in july.
I am realy into the arc or sensation, so if anyone has an oppinion or a suggestion to me please be comfortable to say it.
Cheers
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Samsung galaxy s2 is the best and most powerful android phone to date..
The arc is already outdated and in a few months will be unable to run many apps and games
Samsu galaxy s2 its one of the best phone out yet dual core by the way its a real iphone killer lol or you can wait till then to see whats new in july ;p
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End of q2 this is out i think. Im saving my pennies.....
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Lg optimus g2 is the best ive seen so far super fast.
fiscidtox said:
Samsung galaxy s2 is the best and most powerful android phone to date..
The arc is already outdated and in a few months will be unable to run many apps and games
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The evo 3d is WAAAAAYYY BETTER
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Motorolla ATRIX!
nVidia GPU and Dual Core CPU along with 16gb inbuilt memory
An how about the sensation??
VIPER
And is the evo 3d unlocked or for certain providers only ??
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fiscidtox said:
Samsung galaxy s2 is the best and most powerful android phone to date..
The arc is already outdated and in a few months will be unable to run many apps and games
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I HIGHLY doubt it won't be able to run many apps
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I HIGHLY doubt it won't be able to run many apps
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just wait.....
A lot of stuff is going towards either dual core or cortex.... (or both, tegra 2)
I will personally GUARANTEE that if you get an arc, it will be outdated shortly
fiscidtox said:
just wait.....
A lot of stuff is going towards either dual core or cortex.... (or both, tegra 2)
I will personally GUARANTEE that if you get an arc, it will be outdated shortly
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Kindly provide some examples of 'a lot of stuff'.
As for saying the arc will be outdated, that is pretty simplistic mate. It will only be considered outdated by a small minority of power users, if it does what you need it to then specs mean little.
How exactly will you personally guarantee anything?
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Kindly provide some examples of 'a lot of stuff'.
As for saying the arc will be outdated, that is pretty simplistic mate. It will only be considered outdated by a small minority of power users, if it does what you need it to then specs mean little.
How exactly will you personally guarantee anything?
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I'm an electrical engineer and I do pay attention to where technology is going, as that is sort of my job.
You don't have to listen, like I said, just wait and see.
Many games/apps will be being developed that are dual core and/or cortex only...